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Wizard won't turn on

How's it going all?
My phone has slowly been dying on me, and today was the final straw. I shut the phone off last night, and it will not turn back on. I've tried using a house/usb/car charger with no success. Would I be wrong in assuming that it is a faulty battery? Could there be another problem? The furthest screen the phone reached today was the tmobile white load screen, before turning black and shutting off.
If it is the battery, would this be an appropriate replacement?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=278363001&pf_rd_i=B000I4WP24

It does sound suspiciously like a dead battery. Try cleaning the contacts on the battery and phone first. If that still doesn't help, and if the phone hasn't been damaged (you didn't share that info), then you may want to get a replacement battery. The one you linked to would work fine.

Another battery option for you.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Cingular-HTC-81...ryZ15034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

There is no apparent damage that I've seen. I have had a problem with the phone losing service lately, along with a crackling sound during the start of a call.
Before I order this item, are there any retailers that would carry it? I'm leaving for a week and wouldn't have this replacement in time.
Thanks for the replies!

Check your local Cingular stores -- I don't know if the 8125 battery will fit into a Wizard 200 device (e.g. Qtek 9100), but they should be electrically identical.

I just ordered a replacement battery from amazon.com after trying a battery from a friend....and the phone worked.
I tried one last time to get the phone to charge, but to no avail...UNTIL I seen the orange light after wiggling it around for a bit. The phone made it to the loading screen, and then the light, and the power-up disappeared. I've been trying to get the light to come back on, but I can't seem to get that sweet spot.
Does this sound like a problem with the usb port? If so, is there anyway to fix that?
Thanks!

2 8125's with problems

First off the people and this board itself is tops in my book!!
Now before anyone says it yes....... I have searched.
PHONE 1 I was in the middle of a phone call and the phone went just shut off. Plugged it into a charger (factory one), no charge light. left it overnight and yet still nothing. Tried the battery in another phone and it worked, charged and behaved properly.
PHONE 2 phone works fine but the backlight stays off all of the time. Tried the board with a different LCD and the same problem occured. Is there a fix for this cause I cannot find it, or does anyone know where this feature is located on the motherboard.
Any help in these matters would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance

it is time to donate to the XDA-developers!

excuse me?! If you are looking for donations this is not the correct way to request it.

He means donate the parts to XDA developers... aka, sell them out because they are broke...
I'm sure he was just busting you since he probably doesn't know how to fix it.

BerettaFreak said:
He means donate the parts to XDA developers... aka, sell them out because they are broke...
I'm sure he was just busting you since he probably doesn't know how to fix it.
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thank you for the clearing that up
update: Phone 1
Left it overnight on the charger, about 3 a.m. saw a light on the ceiling (mid sleep turn) got up and looked at the phone and the screen was white. At 8:30 when I awoke, I looked at the phone and the Cingular splash screen was on. Went to turn on my laptop and "poof" it went blank again.
Someone told me to buy a new battery what do you guys think?
Phone 2 still comes on and the screen is still dim. The screen works tried it with a working phone.
I have this one on Craigslist for parts.

Great News
Phone 1: I FIXED IT!!!!
I cleaned the board with alcohol. disconnected the internal battery for a day then reconnected it back to the board and PRESTO CHANGO THE PHONE IS UP AND RUNNING!!!
Phone 2: The screen is still dim so I will be parting it out.

Hermes bricked? Toasted? Need assistance urgently!

Before anyone jumps on me, I've been going through the Wiki and forums extensively, and found just one similar problem. Which wasn't solved...
My HTC TyTN/Hermes 200 won't boot up anymore. It is totally dead. I even can't get it into bootloader mode. Screen stays blank and the LED is off.
Put the (3 months old) battery in another Hermes to test it, and it's at 100% charge.
My Hermes shows a steady red LED when it's plugged into power without the battery in, and no LED at all when the battery is installed. The red LED turns off when the battery is installed while there's power going into the unit.
I've left the battery out for at least an hour, plugged it back in, same results. Like the other guy I tried the "pull power, pull battery, plug in power, plug in battery, reset" trick http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6469&p=1077622 - to no avail.
Does anyone have any last resort ideas on how to get it to at least come back up to a boot loader screen ?

check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery

... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected properly
just a test on the opposite side of the battery connectors with battery removed press firmly without putting pressure on the LCD, this worked for me when i had a white screen on power up.
if this fixes the problem you may need to actually dismantle the back and put some flame retardant electrical tape on the back over the existing tape to add an extra layer of pressure and retension

XtreMe_G said:
check the battery contact points on the phone. the hermes shows a red led when its plugged in but without a battery
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Yes, I have cleaned the contact too, nothing. And the battery is OK for sure, my colleague's TyTN runs on it without any problem.

Mattnokis said:
... have you ever dismantled your hermes? your screen ribbon cable may have dead tracks or not be connected
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In fact I have, I have totally dismantled and reassembled my TyTN yesterday afternoon, nothing.

the only other problem may be that when being dismantled you may have damaged some sensitive components, Electro Static Discharge will fry sensitive CMOS components, they do not like it at all, whenever dismantling you should wear an earth strap, any time i dismantled mine it was on a workbench with a static mat and i was earthed through the mat.
but this is one possibility, the only other idea is to swap main board and displays with another that works, finding someone willing to allow you to do this with a working hemes is the tough part.
thats as much all i can think of for now

R.I.P. my trustful Hermes 200
Thanks all for your assistance. I have come to the conclusion that my sweetheart is no longer among us. May she rest in peace.
I have obtained a (2d hand) replacement yesterday. May this one last longer.
I'll keep the old TyTN for replacement parts.
Oh well...

Water damage - FIXED with a hair dryer

I left my phone outside before a rainstorm. It didn't get get direct rainfall on it but got the spray of the water hitting the side of the wall. When I remembered it 15 minutes later it was covered in water drops but not soaked.
Everything seemed to work fine at first but then the touchscreen kept thinking it was touched at random places.
I turned it off, removed the battery, and started to dry it off with a kleenex and a condensed air can to blow the water out of the slider. When I turned it back on, the backlight flickered for about a minute and then went black (the LCD picture was still there but very dark)
Now when I turn it on the backlight is on for a second but then goes off. If I hit the OK, Talk, or other buttons they work 1 out of 10 times. The touchscreen still registers hits by itself.
Any suggestions on what I should do to dry it out? Do I need to take apart the screen?
I'd hate to throw it away...any help will be much appreciated!

Hum ill try to say this in english. This solution worked for some friends of mine when their phones got wet. disassemble all the tytn parts, take pff the battery, sim card, memory card, everything u can, take it out. Then with a hairdryer point it to the PDA about an hour. Pay attention not burn it up, only heat it a little so that the water or humidy left in the PDA can evaporate. Then leave it on shelf all opened for about a night. Next day join all the parts and try to connect your device. If it doesnt work, u can always take it to warranty. Sry 4 my english I hope u can understand ^^

Zero|Cool said:
Hum ill try to say this in english. This solution worked for some friends of mine when their phones got wet. disassemble all the tytn parts, take pff the battery, sim card, memory card, everything u can, take it out. Then with a hairdryer point it to the PDA about an hour. Pay attention not burn it up, only heat it a little so that the water or humidy left in the PDA can evaporate. Then leave it on shelf all opened for about a night. Next day join all the parts and try to connect your device. If it doesnt work, u can always take it to warranty. Sry 4 my english I hope u can understand ^^
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Hey don't worry about your English - you speak it better than most others. I'll try this suggestion but I will definitely have to be careful not to burn up anything. Thanks

After the experience tell me how it went

Forget warranty though, there is a water activated sticker inside the hermes to tell the service department if its been soaked. Its white if no water has got in but turns pink if water touches it.
Cheers...
Heres the link to the service manual to be able to dissassemble safely - http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c02_owner=1
You need a small flatbade, a small philips head screwdriver and a no. 6 torque key.
Good luck....

The warranty's already gone so I am willing to take drastic measures to fix this thing. I will let it sit overnight and if that doesn't work, I'll be taking it apart tomorrow. I found a youtube video that shows precisely how to do it. I'll update tomorrow

Would grab the manual as well as it can't hurt to have all bases covered. The manual takes you through step by step.
Cheers...

Thanks for your help, guys!
Seems I was freaking out over nothing. I did like Zero said and took a hair dryer to it (maybe 3mins on low -- 1min on high....did have the patience to do it for an hour) and then let it sit overnight. The phone was completely messed up around 10pm last night even after blow drying but this morning I powered it on and it did just fine. It did reset a couple of settings in advanced config but nothing else was touched. As a matter of fact, I believe the phone runs faster than it did before the incident! I do notice that the CPU memory is idling at 45% instead of 55+%...weird....
So I guess they do make em like they used to

Im glad my solution worked out actually i never tested it on PDA's so i guess that it's quite the same. Hair dryer rullez^^

check your wifi
mcattack86 said:
Thanks for your help, guys!
Seems I was freaking out over nothing. I did like Zero said and took a hair dryer to it (maybe 3mins on low -- 1min on high....did have the patience to do it for an hour) and then let it sit overnight. The phone was completely messed up around 10pm last night even after blow drying but this morning I powered it on and it did just fine. It did reset a couple of settings in advanced config but nothing else was touched. As a matter of fact, I believe the phone runs faster than it did before the incident! I do notice that the CPU memory is idling at 45% instead of 55+%...weird....
So I guess they do make em like they used to
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I had an MDA before my Wing, dropped in the toilet twice after a couple of days worked fine the second time the wifi went out.
PS My wing doesnt go in the bathroom with me anymore

When you phone gets wet
I don't know if anyone has heard of the Kim Commando Show, she is syndicated over the Radio. Anyways, she's a techie and gives advice on different situations relating to different devices and new stuff coming out. Anyways, she advices when a phone get wets to NOT turn on the phone right away (obviously), take the battery out and put the phone in a bag of rice. The rice will pull out the moisture. The phone has to be in the rice for 24 hours. It works 95% of the time. The trick is to not turn on the phone until you are sure the phone is completly dry inside and out. As you all know, electricity and water will just fry your phone. A new battery is suggested.

water damage SGS2 also..
Got my Galaxy s2 in my pocket when it was raining , i hade about 10% of battery.
Took it up and it was dead, so when i came home i put the charger in it but nothing happend.
I have put it into a bag of rise now and will se if it starts tomorrow. I also have bought a new battery.
if that not works ive also bought a new Charger oem cabel from ebay.
to bad for me did the warrenty went out for about 3 weeks ago.
I hope it will turn on again when i read that people that have droped directly into water and have them fixed by rise or other ways.
If this not works, is there any other ways?
thankfull for any help!

Touch HD In water, hints?

HI all, i've a really disappointing problem. My touch HD was in my pocket when I took some rain on my motorcycle . Arrived at home the phone was off. I opened it following the service manual. I've putted it behind the power supply of the pc, where the warm air comes out, dismantled, for a few days.
Then I assembled all, and now it turns on, but, it randomly restart. Do you think my mobo is broken? some contact?
I was thinking I can sell the various parts of my phone all the items works, sim, sd reader, camera (back and front) except the mobo ofcourse.
thanks in advance for your help

Hi.I have heard of one way of fixed water damaged devices and that is by putting them in a container covered by UNCOOKED rice. I think the rice is meant to draw the water out. Leave it for a day I think. Never tried it myself but heard it works
Phil G

Hi, thanks for your answer, the phone was behind the psu of the pc for a week totally dismantled, so I think is pretty dry
thanks again for you interest

I actually dropped me BS in a bucket of water. Dried it out in a heat cabinet at work (50 deg C) for a day and it works perfectly still

Hi la3bna, i'm trying to do as you suggested, was your bs powered when it fall in the water?
thanks for your answer

You should use the salt that is used to lower humidity (e.g. from Bison).
Put the bag of salt on the bottom of a plastic box.
On top of the bag a plate so your device has no fysical contact
with the salt. On the plate you lay down your device without
the backside. Seal the box airtight and leave it there for 7 days.
I did this with the Ipod of my son which had been washed for over
an hour on 60 degrees celsius. The Ipod was dead, but after the
procedure as described it was fully functional!

Thanks a lot, I'll try this!!

Yes mine was on, actually someone called my when it fell

I dropped mine in deep snow... I was holding it in my hand and slipped and also fell
It was very wet so I got scared it won't work but when I got home I turned it off,removed the battery,cards and just put it in some blanket to dry off
After an hour turned it back on and everything worked just like before
Also the other day I accidentally spilled some hand cream on my blackstone and it got inside but nothing happened again so I'm lucky...

thanks for your advices, trying the rice thing

lol, you guys are fecking useless
There is no way I would put myself in that situation, then again I have dropped it a few times so probably only lucky there wasnt water about

Well, I also dropped my Blackstone into water and, after drying it for some 2-3 hrs in the sun it works, except the memory card reader - the problem with the water and mobile phones is the fact that the water is oxidizing the circuitry - so, if it still malfunctions after a week of drying, then probably the phone is doomed.
Sorry for your loss!

for oxid, i've "bathed" the phone in Svitol, but nothing appens... i'm going to sell it as spare.
thanks all for your answer

open the device and dry it out..

already tried, using the service manual to open it, and dried for a week, but nothing appens.
thanks anyway

keep pressing the on/off button - eg, press button on off on off on off (while charging)
and tell me what happens, eg, a vibration??

hi, ti vibrate, then starts, show the smart mobility screen, load the SO, and all works for about 10 minutes. Then the phone restarts and get stuck to smart mobility screen. After that the only way is to press reset or remove the battery. After that if you press the power button the phone get always stuck on smart mobility, sometimes start to load the SO and then it restart before finishing to load.
Nicola

Solved
Hi, problem solved, just left the phone in its box for a month then acidentally tried to start it and from that day works great... guess that just needed to dry out.
Thread can be closed.
Thanks for all your advice.
Nicola

The end?
Dropped my Blackstone in the toilet last night (don't know how, I was drunk at the time). I believe it had been fully submerged for 2-3 minutes. It was turned on at the time. When I recovered it (thank God nothing had been done in the toilet at the time), it was off. I removed the cover and there was water behind the battery, in the SD card reader and SIM. Not a lot, but it was wet. Stupidly (drunk) and panicking , I dried off the back panel with a hand towel (possible static charge damage? - not yet known ). I left it on top of a t-shirt which is on top of the radiator. I don't yet want to turn it on fo fear of wrecking it (if it's not already wrecked).
What methods to people recommend I should take from above? Or maybe there are some new techniques? Would I be better taking it to a mobile service repair shop to see if they can fix it from the beginning, before I do any more damage?

1 dismantle the device into pieces. (if your not sure how i can give you a step by step guide)
2 now dry each of the parts of the device with cotton wool buds (the things used to clean your ears)
3 the put the device back together.
4 done.
....some people say to leave the device in rice etc because it draws the water from the device, IMO this does not work properly and there is nothing better that opening the device and actually cleaning it and removing the water yourself, and this should only take a few mins. it is also not recomended to send it to a service repair shop for something you can do yourself. just be carefull when dismantling the device. do not break any ribbons - used to connect the lcd amungst other things to motherboard.
might be possible you will need a new battery ^