Agile Messenger WM5.0 Alpha Release --- Bug Checking Build - Networking

THIS IS A BUG CHECKING AND TESTING BUILD ONLY.
We are making this available to XDA-Developers board members, becasue of the large amount of requests that have been made to be involved with the pre-release testing.
We have one simple request, and if it works, we will continue to offer pre-release builds to the board members.
PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS BOARD, SEND IT TO [email protected].
This file is for Windows Mobile 5.0 for Pocket PC (so Universal, Wizzard, etc.) We will relase an Alpha for Smart Phones shortly.
download url:
http://www.agilemobile.com/alpha/AgileMessengerWM5-alpha.zip
Again, we appreciate your patience and are eager for you feedback and suggestions.
Seth

woohoo downloading it now and testing it shortly.....will e-mail with bugs if i find em.....but hopefully some "windex' should kill it....... :wink:
*edit*
i've sent an e-mail
Hardware: T-Mobile MDA (US)
iMate 2.16 ROM
Connected via GPRS/EDGE
Bugs/Suggestions:
Google: "Fatal error! Received non jabber packet." this occurs when trying to sign on to Google from Agile. I've tried two differnet methods of typing the user name [email protected] as well as just username.
MSN: Can't use the tab key to go from user name to password field.
Yahoo: Can't use the tab key to go from user name to password field.
AOL: Can't use the tab key to go from user name to password field.
Also the splash screen at startup, should be changed to disappear if keypress/screentap.
And selecting a service seems a bit sluggish on the Wizard.
Not in e-mail:
I don't use ICQ or XMPP(???) so can't say much to that....

It's installed!!!

only using msn...
I miss one thing... backspace in an empty textfield (when a chat was open) used to close the open chat-window before ...that would be great to have in this version too

Excellent
Downloading now...

Re: Agile Messenger WM5.0 Alpha Release --- Bug Checking Bu
sethmw said:
THIS IS A BUG CHECKING AND TESTING BUILD ONLY.
PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS BOARD, SEND IT TO [email protected].
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Hey guys...dont post the bugs here!! email them.

You CAN post here as well as to send a copy of the post to Agile via email...

Workin great

Actually it would be greatly appreciated if you just send your comments to [email protected].
If they are posted here the team that is working on this build will not get your comments.
Thank you,
Seth

i heard agile supports PTT (Push To Talk) is that true & how can we use it

I am sending the following to [email protected] but I want to post my comments here in case others see the same issues:
1. Can't use keyboard to tab between username/password fields on connect screen.
2. Successfully signed in with ICQ/AIM/MSN/Yahoo but can't get Gtalk to sign on.
3. When Agile is displayed in horizontal screen mode, some features are truncated. I will attach a screenshot to the email I send.
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4. When in horizontal mode, can the text input box be shrunk to a single line? The message history window only displays 4 lines of text in horizontal and we really don't need two lines worth of input. I will attach a screenshot.
So far it's looking very good! Thanks so much for your efforts!

Re: Agile Messenger WM5.0 Alpha Release --- Bug Checking Bu
sethmw said:
We have one simple request, and if it works, we will continue to offer pre-release builds to the board members.
PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR FEEDBACK ON THIS BOARD, SEND IT TO [email protected].
Seth
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I assume it's ok to post bugs both here AND to [email protected] ?
That way, you don't get 500 users reporting the same bug..

Not a bug....but I wish there was a vibrate Alert function instead of just sound. I will add this suggestion to any bug submissions. I just installed it so I will play with it for a bit before doing a bug submission.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:
[email protected]
SMTP error from remote mailer after RCPT TO:<[email protected]>:
host ns4.orionent.com [65.111.164.204]: 550 Unknown user
lol
so post report here
Bugs.
1. Why after I used Agile Messenger WM5.0 Alpha Release and de-touch
GPRS, phone connecting to GPRS again? It annoying.
2. Cant connect via ActiveSync (USB), didn't try connection via
Bluetooth but think it will be same
3. After switching keyboard layout (dot button + Rus (.)) program start
recoeding for few seconds and send it to selected contact.
4. than device lost connection to GPRS, program bar on Today is empty,
just clear bar.
Wishes:
1. Can we get sound + vibrate/vibrate only/sound only alerts? Cause at
metro or in bus I miss sound alert of incoming message

It's [email protected] not bug_report (note the "S" on reports).

Costavaldes said:
Wishes:
1. Can we get sound + vibrate/vibrate only/sound only alerts? Cause at
metro or in bus I miss sound alert of incoming message
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I agree. Also, when the phone is in sleep mode I do not get a sound alert. The screen does come alive and I see that I have a messege, but I have to start to respond to see what the message is. So if the phone is in my pocket when I recieve a message I will not know it and the screen will be activated. This could cause buttons to be pressed by accident.
Has anyone else had their groups mixed up? I have people that should be in a specific group, but now they have been put into a group called "Ungrouped Contacts" and I can not move them. Also, my contact list shows some contacts as online, when they are not. Anyone else have this same problem?

Special_K said:
Costavaldes said:
Wishes:
1. Can we get sound + vibrate/vibrate only/sound only alerts? Cause at
metro or in bus I miss sound alert of incoming message
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I agree. Also, when the phone is in sleep mode I do not get a sound alert. The screen does come alive and I see that I have a messege, but I have to start to respond to see what the message is. So if the phone is in my pocket when I recieve a message I will not know it and the screen will be activated. This could cause buttons to be pressed by accident.
Has anyone else had their groups mixed up? I have people that should be in a specific group, but now they have been put into a group called "Ungrouped Contacts" and I can not move them. Also, my contact list shows some contacts as online, when they are not. Anyone else have this same problem?
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Did you email this to [email protected]? They can't help you if you just post here, notice the directions from the OP.

Submitted Bug report
Below is the bug report that I submitted. I thought I would post here so that others could see if they are having the same problem and/or correct me on what I have listed.
TO: [email protected]
Subject: Bug Report: Agile Messenger WM5.0 Alpha Release
Hello,
Below I have listed a few things I would consider to be bugs as well as a few items I think would be useful to add to the build. Please see the two sections below and let me know if you need more detail. Overall the product seems to be working very well, especially for an Alpha release. Great job, keep it up!!
Please note that I am using a Verizon Pocket PC phone model XV6700 running Windows Mobile 5.0. OS 5.1.1700, Build 14354.0.1.1 Also, I am only using the AOL service at this time.
Bugs (AOL only)
Can not use the tab key on the keyboard to move from field to field.
Some contacts have been moved from their specific groups into a group called "Ungrouped Contacts". These contacts can not be moved out of this group. When I attempt to move the contact I receive a message that says "Contact XXX does not exist"
When I expand a group the contacts appear above the group name, not under it. This happens to only one group.
A contact is shown as online when they are not signed on. I know they are not signed on because it is another screen name that I have been using to test the service.
When my phone is in sleep mode and I receive an IM message the audio alert does not play. The screen does become active but there is no sound.
Not sure this is a bug but, I can not register more then one screen name. How can I sign onto another screen name?
Wishlist
A vibrate alert would be very helpful
The ability to combine alerts, i.e. Audio Alert + Vibrate Alert, Audio Alert only, Vibrate only etc.
The ability to have an alert repeat for a specified amount of time. For example, play sound or vibrate until message is acknowledged or for a specified amount of time, 5,10 min etc.
The option to not activate the screen when a message is received and the phone is in sleep mode. This would be good if audio alerts worked when in sleep mode.
The ability to register multiple screen names for a service and then pick the one you want to use for your session.[/list]

Resizing
I've just installed on a 8125 ,seeems i have problem when the screen try to resize from preferences to the home page and landscape mode too

Please remember to send your comments to [email protected]; the developers and quality control are not monitoring this forum.
Also please make sure you SPECIFY THE DEVICE you are testing with in your feedback, so that they can quickly replicate, and solve the problems.
Much appreciated,
Seth

Related

Unable to send/receive MMS messages...

Hi all,
I have recently flashed my M1000 with the new ROM that is available from Orange which has the MMS application by ArcSoft. Look at this post for more relevant info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=10914
Someone sent me a couple of MMS messages the other day (my first MMS messages on this device - I RARELY ever use MMS) and this is where my problem started.
I have attached a couple of images to help explain the problem...
The picture below shows the settings of the MMS composer with no connections listed in the "Connect via" list
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This piccy shows the list box expanded... Still showing nothing..
The image below shows that I do have a valid server for the composer to receive MMS messages from. The values in here have been confirmed by Ornage customer support as being correct.
Fnally, the image below was taken from Start->Settings->ConnectionsConnections->Advanced->Select Networks
As you can see, I definitely have several connecctions available including the MMS connection.
I have been in touch with Orange customer services and was escalated to their Level 2 support but the only thing they could suggest is re-flashing the ROM.
My device has been hard-booted a couple of times (due to some installed software and not my doing...) so I don't think re-flashing the ROM would make that much difference - although I could be very wrong about that!
Any help would be appreciated...[/url]
that's quite interesting! ... ROM flashing is not a bad idea as you have nothing to loose ... but I would advice you to start by changing the MMS Composer cab file in the extended ROM with a newer version ... I guess it's the problem of MMS composer not able to read properly from the registry data ... if the registry data itself is corrupted (valid if you can't use any other connectivity) then ROM flashing with a higher version is a must ... good luck.
Thanks Biso007 for the reply...
I've enabled the Extended Rom in my phone and tried running the MMS installer CAB file but this didn't help me at all.
Do you (or anyone else for that matter) know of anywhere that I can get a newer version of the MMS composer? The version I have installed currently is 1.6.0.14.
I suppose I could re-flash the ROM but at this point my phone is working nicely and would require yet another re-build... Something I'm getting quite adept at now, but still a pain!
Hi NinjaDonkey,
You should try to delete \My Documents\UAContents folder on your device...
Serge
Sadly, all this did was remove the messages that I want to receive and didn't force the app to re-load the Connect Via list.
Is it possible someone could post their registry tree for the MMS composer located at: HKLM\SOFTWARE\ArcSoft
Cheers
It's now fixed...
Did a full backup with Sprite, the machine hard-rebooted itself for some strange reason (saved me having to do it as I was going to do it anyhoo!), opened up the MMS Composer, looked at the Connect via option and it had a nice full list of connections.
I took the bull by the horns and restored my full backup (hoping the connections list would be intact in the composer), rebooted after the restore and all the connections were still in the drop down.
How strange....
Sprite is definitely my best friend
BTW, does anyone know what ActiveSync insists that my device and outlook aren't synchronised after a restore? Active sync asks me whether I want to combine or replace entries, I normally select combine but not too sure what the difference is...!
NinjaDonkey said:
BTW, does anyone know what ActiveSync insists that my device and outlook aren't synchronised after a restore? Active sync asks me whether I want to combine or replace entries, I normally select combine but not too sure what the difference is...!
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I have noticed this behaviour from ActiveSync before. It seems there must be some flag somewhere that tells AS a contact or calendar event is 'synched' and that doesn't get restored.
If you select combine, the PC and PDA get two of everything, if you sel;ect replace, then the entries are replaced, so you only get one of each.
Hi NinjaDonkey
I noticed in your screen shots that there is a bar along the very top of your display - is this battery level or something? What software do you use?
Thanks
Pope <><
It's a battery meter.
It comes as part of Pocket Plus 2.1
AAARRGHHH!
This problem has reared it's ugly head again.
My device hard-reset some time ago and at the time I thought I'd re-build it from scratch instead of restore from a backup...
Time went on and no-one had sent me any MMS messages...
Then my brother (well, his other half actually) had a baby and he tried sending me an MMS message. Lo and behold, the same problem occurred!
I've tried getting in touch with ArcSoft but I've not gotten anything back from them at all.
Can anyone help???
Not sure I can be of any help - but the I had the same problems you describe. I opened up the rom files from the orange rom and extracted the MMS cab file - I already had all the rest so didn't want to go through the pain of rom flash.
Once I had installed the cab it just wouldn't send mms messages - and for exactly the reason you describe - I couldn't get anything into the connect via box on the options.
Luckily for me it corrected itself - I haven't done any hard resets or anything, though I have done plenty of soft resets.
Anyway it works fine on my phone at the moment so if there is any settings etc. you want me to look at or post you I'd be happy to help.
Hope you get this sorted - its a real pain.
Cheers
I've tried all sorts of things to get it working... below should have worked surely but it didn't..
1) Do a full backup of my phone, then hard-reset myself. Grap a copy of the registry for MMS Composer in it's working state and a copy of it's installed directory.
2) Restore the previous backup, imported the registry I just made and then copy over the installed directory I made too.
3) It should work now as it should be "identical" to the freshly hard-reset state.
Waaaaaaa!
What's going on?!?!
Sooo frustrating. Even the bods at Orange Tech support (level 2 I think I got to in the end) didn't have a clue.
Hi,
I think this is related to the MMS Composer software version.
I've had the same problem with 2 devices both running version 2.0.0.13.
And no problems at all with 2 devices running 2.0.0.16.

Messmo v1.1.47 J2ME - Send free SMS

Hello Friends,
wanted to share an application that allows sending of sms for free using GPRS.
send free sms
send sms with attachment
It allows to send long sms (2048 characters)
You can even send and receive email on this application
You can manage your Facebook account using Messmo. (this is the BEST feature that I liked)
You can create a friendcast channel, invite your friends and exchange messages in the group at once
Subscribe to various channels offered by them on their website (www.messmo.com)
Create your own channel (one more very interesting Feature)
There is much more than what I've listed!!
Just try it and ofcourse, feedback is appreciated
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You can download messmo from
http://www.getjar.com/products/14851/messmo
or
http://www.messmo.com
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Compatible with
Any phone that supports GPRS/Mobile Inernet​
Hey! Just checked out the site! There is a new release 1.1.51 ...
Will this be the one that I would get if I download it now?
Hello friends,
I heard MESSMO has just been released a new version 1.1.51.
Does anybody know about new functionalities have been added into new version?
Awaiting for your reply.....
Thank you.
Rajesh
hey guys...its true!! A new version of MESSMO 1.1.51 has just been released!
A few functionalities have been added up like:
conversation mode (sms are now stored as a thread)
better connectivity (it keeps checking if the connection has lost)
The feature of outbox has also been added.
I m trying out them and let me know if they worked for you.
Looking for a positive response from you guys
Which countries are supported for the free SMS? Can you send international SMSs?
Look very interesting.
Same question however: which countries are supported for free SMS?
Sascha
Free SMS
I think they letting you send free txt by meaning messages between messmo application you can send ordinary SMS but it will be charged take a look http://www.messmo.com/FreeTXT.php
shamus said:
I think they letting you send free txt by meaning messages between messmo application you can send ordinary SMS but it will be charged take a look http://www.messmo.com/FreeTXT.php
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Is it true?
shamus said:
I think they letting you send free txt by meaning messages between messmo application you can send ordinary SMS but it will be charged take a look http://www.messmo.com/FreeTXT.php
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I would rather think that you write your TXT message within messmo and it verifies if the recipient is a messmo user.
- If yes, then the TXT is sent as is free of charge
- If not the TXT will be sent via your own provider's SMS service and charged as usual
Sascha
correct ! ! you can exchange free sms between any messmo users in any coutry.
messmo uses gprs to send messages, so if the other person also has messmo, then they can exchange sms for free irrespective of their country.
so grab the software . . . make your messmo friend cirlce and start sending sms for free with an attachment ! !
isn't it coooool?
Nice software, well but where can i find freinds to use this software.
samy.3660 said:
Nice software, well but where can i find freinds to use this software.
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I can't install this. JBlend gives me an error. 910. Any ideas?
I need some information about Freindcast feature ,provided in the Messmo.
I heard that it is wonderful feature. I have already downloaded Messmo on my mobile.
zkyevolved said:
I can't install this. JBlend gives me an error. 910. Any ideas?
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To download the messmo, simply access the link below from your mobile browser :
http://www.getjar.com/products/14851/messmo
SaBo said:
Look very interesting.
Same question however: which countries are supported for free SMS?
Sascha
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There is no restrictions on country area. You can send sms globally.Recently Messmo has launched new version with 2 new features- Voice message and Real MMS. Now you can send a voice message to your friends, no need to spend money on making calls. Really Messmo is the best for instant messaging in the world.
hi all,..
i have a problem, i have imate k-jam, and it doesn't support .jad or .jar files, and messmo is only available as .jad..
can anybody tell me plz if i can find it .cab, or if someone has any solution to my problem, and thanx

[APP] SMSer v1.2 [Aug 21, 2009]

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Send sms to multiple contacts.
How To:
- type your message on the first box. if you want the name of your contact to appear in your message, just type in @@@ where you want the name to appear inside the message.
- add contacts in your list: Menu > Add Contact
- save your list for future uses: Menu > Save List
- load your list: Menu > Load List
- sending sms: Send menu will show SIM1 and SIM2 because this application was written for ACER DX900 dual sim phone but using it on a single sim WM device will also work.
- after pressing send, the application will hide itself, and will reshow itself after the task is done.
change log:
v1.2
- character counter for sms body
- repeat sending to multiple contacts
oldSAP SMSer v1.2 cab
v1.1
- added ability to PASTE in textbox
- multiple lists
oldSAP SMSer v1.1 cab
A Cup of Coffee would be nice
SMSer Homepage
Havent tryed it yet, but it looks pretty usefull.
One thing though: You do realize that the second phone number is still readable on your screenshot, right?
Oldsap: This program works great! I am using it on a HTC Touch Pro on the sprint network. After trying out a lot of sms programs I was truely impressed, thanks for sharing!
Your program is light, fast, does not send multiple text to the same person (like so many sms programs do)
I have three items on my wish list for future versions.
1) Enable the clipboard feature for copy/paste.
2) Have a Character counter
3) Be able to save/ load Multiple contact list.
PS. I am willing to donate to see this program improved.
1) Enable the clipboard feature for copy/paste.
- for the text box?
2) Have a Character counter
- sure
3) Be able to save/ load Multiple contact list.
- can do
handy, cheers.
oldsap,
Potentially highly useful.
However I think it lacks three options to make it the best SMS sending software available:
- Directly importing contact category(ies) such as GroupSMS.
- Automatically use the mobile phone number, no need to select a phone number for each contact.
- Being able to send SMS using the firstname only as sending an email to your friends with their lastname looks a bit too comemrcial oriented to me.
The_Steph
- Directly importing contact category(ies) such as GroupSMS.
- i didn't want to touch the contact details that's why i made a list
- Automatically use the mobile phone number, no need to select a phone number for each contact.
- some people, like me, save 2 or more mobile phone numbers for each contact that's why i added an option to be able to choose to which number you want to send the sms to
- Being able to send SMS using the firstname only as sending an email to your friends with their lastname looks a bit too comemrcial oriented to me.
- i can add that option
Very cool, thanks for sharing!
change log:
v1.1
- added ability to PASTE in textbox
- multiple lists
Thanks new version.
Brilliant
I had made alot of lists in text files and had to copy paste them manually to send messages to friends
Thanks alot oldsap
Hi, great work
But v1.2 delivers "unexpected error" at startup. Switched back to ver 1.
Will wait for future updates.
Thanks
thank for update
Thanks for thinking about option 3
For option 1 & 2, I'll try to manage it with lists
The_Steph
Request:
Send a single sms many times to many contact many times.
Ex:
MSG:Test
How many time(dialog box):10
Contacts:5 contacts
svprm said:
Request:
Send a single sms many times to many contact many times.
Ex:
MSG:Test
How many time(dialog box):10
Contacts:5 contacts
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- sure
Hi, great work
But v1.2 delivers "unexpected error" at startup. Switched back to ver 1.
Will wait for future updates.
Thanks
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- actually the latest release is v1.1
i reinstalled it on my device and did not experience any error. pls check if you have a txt file in \My Documents\SMSerList_Sample.txt.
v1.2
- character counter for sms body
- repeat sending to multiple contacts
Thanks for accepted my request .
obot64 said:
Oldsap: This program works great! I am using it on a HTC Touch Pro on the sprint network. After trying out a lot of sms programs I was truely impressed, thanks for sharing!
Your program is light, fast, does not send multiple text to the same person (like so many sms programs do)
I have three items on my wish list for future versions.
1) Enable the clipboard feature for copy/paste.
2) Have a Character counter
3) Be able to save/ load Multiple contact list.
PS. I am willing to donate to see this program improved.
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all your requests have been fulfilled
oldsap said:
1) Enable the clipboard feature for copy/paste.
- for the text box?
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Yes copy paste for the text box. Alot of times I will compose my text and send it out at a later time. Or just use one of my stock text that I have in a file!
oldsap said:
all your requests have been fulfilled
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Wow that was fast!
BTW! I haven't downloaded the new version but it looks like it rocks! I will leave feedback after this weekend

SMS being split after 160 characters

Hi.
For some reason, all Sms that are over a certain length (looks like 160 chars) get delivered as 2 separate texts! This happens in the stock sms app and on Handcent. There is an option on Handcent that says 'Split 160', but this is for sending messages, and is set to 'Dont Split'.
Its getting really annoying because the texts just split a word within the the middle of it.
Anyone else have the problem??
This is the standard behavior of SMS... the protocol is limited to 160 characters. However the receiving phone should rebuild the message.
For me it does not split the mess, it (the one time it happened) converted it to an mms :-$ so the reciever (with an old phone) did not get it :-\
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Tjotte said:
For me it does not split the mess, it (the one time it happened) converted it to an mms :-$ so the reciever (with an old phone) did not get it :-\
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That's weird... I get the correct behavior and the message goes as MMS only if I attach an image
There is an option to have it convert to MMS if it's greater than 3 SMS's (I think).. on the premise that if your paying for your texts it will be cheaper to send 1 MMS than 3 SMS... you can switch it off in the menus somewhere.
murtz said:
Hi.
For some reason, all Sms that are over a certain length (looks like 160 chars) get delivered as 2 separate texts! This happens in the stock sms app and on Handcent. There is an option on Handcent that says 'Split 160', but this is for sending messages, and is set to 'Dont Split'.
Its getting really annoying because the texts just split a word within the the middle of it.
Anyone else have the problem??
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Yep i know what you mean the same happened to me 2 Days ago when i was texting with a Friend. Although it never happened before. All SMS over 160 Characters i got delivered in Split SMS. I thought it is a Error with the Cell Operator , the next Day all was back to normal again.
i got the problem when i type over 3sms it gets turnd into a mms
As lornova said above, the SMS standard limits each SMS to be 160 characters in ASCII or 70 characters in Unicode. This is called SMS concatenation.
Basically, if your SMS is over 160 characters long, your handset will split it over two SMS messages and send both. On the receiving end, the handset of the receiver will know that the two SMS messages are concatenated so it will join them together. This is transparent to both the sender and receiver so they will see it as one message.
Support for SMS concatenation depends on the handset (which most handsets support) and the operator's SMSC.
However, three SMS changing into an MMS is new to me. But since there can only be a maximum of two concatenated SMS, this is a clever solution.
I see. I guess the 'joining' isnt working properly on the X10 then! Is there a setting or something I need to configure?
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Basically, if your SMS is over 160 characters long, your handset will split it over two SMS messages and send both.
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That's not what he is talking about. As far i understand he talks about his RECEIVED sms over 160 characters get split on his Xperia not what he sends.
I can reproduce that error as it happens to me too. What i send perfectly stays in one SMS even over 160 Characters but sometimes SMS which i receive from others with like 240 Characters get split in 2 SMS on the Xperia inbox.
That's strange. I can't reproduce the problem. I sent a long SMS (200 characters) from a Sony Ericsson W980 to a Sony Ericsson X10, and the X10 managed to join it just fine so that it appears as one message.
It appears as one message on the stock Android Messaging inbox and on the chompSMS application.
It may not be the X10. Maybe your operator's SMSC does not support the concatenated SMS.
SMS unsplitting depends on the sending carrier
I have a Nexus One running Android 2.3 (CyanogenMod 7.1.0).
Long text messages (over 160 chars) received from Verizon phones get unsplit correctly, and I see them as one message. Long messages received from AT&T (the handset is an HTC Vivid running Android as well), are not recombined, and I see the as a bunch of 160-characters SMSes.
This is super annoying, but it looks like there's no app that can simply let me manually merge an SMS into another.
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I see. I guess the 'joining' isnt working properly on the X10 then! Is there a setting or something I need to configure?
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I am no expert in this,but I believe x10 doesn't cause this,in my case and in where I live,I have never receive any split messages for quiet a long time already..(years...)and I often send and receive sms of more than 500 character and it is sent,received and displayed just fine.I strongly believe,this is due to your carrier,however,I just have no proof,and below is the screenshot me sending an sms to myself in more than 1000 characters,and I send,received and displayed just fine.
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Even before Android, SMS was 160 characters. Some phones had the options or only allowed one or more choices of: messages ends at 160 characters - end of message and the sender has to manually create a new message to continue (and you naturally get more than one message), the sender types indefinitely and the messages splits into 2 (or more) SMS, OR it changes into a MMS. This is not something the receiver has a choice on. It's the person's phone who sends the message and the options they pick (and are allowed) that cause this. Android is the same way... since SMS and MMS is still the same though I don't know what the MMS limit is.
There may be a carrier default (aside from the 160 SMS characters which is universal). Often there's options the sender either doesn't know about or hasn't changed. Many have unlimited text so it doesn't matter if they send 14 SMS messages at once.
Are you on a custom rom?
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if it is a custom rom and it comes from a cdma handset this could be the issue as cdma doesnt support longer than 160,,, so it may cause such issues.
miui roms have issues like this sometimes.
Hi guys just my 2 cents, don't know the rates if an mms in ur country. But my advice if you are going to write a long mesh always use Mms as it gives u 1000 words n will cost you cheaper than sending a long mesg via SMS like 3 parts which will cost u more..n mms are just fine, u don't need to attach a pictures along with it. I can just use mms as a normal SMS if u want to write a big mesg....cheers
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[Q] Hangouts not appearing as default messaging app option

So I have Hangouts which I use for texting (via Google Voice features to be more specific).
Since GVoice isn't supported as a default messaging app, I've been using Hangouts.
However, on my S8, I can't make Hangouts my default messaging app since it doesn't appear as an option.
I've installed other SMS apps to see if it was some bigger issue, though they're listed properly.
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Is anyone else having a similar issue and/or know how to solve it?
I thought hangouts disabled non-voice SMS features awhile back. So you can SMS via your hangouts (e.g. "voice") number within hangouts, but anything to do with SMS inside hangouts is not considered "SMS" outside of hangouts—e.g. by the phone device.
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I thought hangouts disabled non-voice SMS features awhile back. So you can SMS via your hangouts (e.g. "voice") number within hangouts, but anything to do with SMS inside hangouts is not considered "SMS" outside of hangouts—e.g. by the phone device.
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Ugh. That's what I was afraid of.
I was using Hangouts on an older phone; maybe I was able to skirt around that disabling for a bit...
So basically there's nothing out there I can use as my default messaging app for my GV texts?
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Ugh. That's what I was afraid of.
I was using Hangouts on an older phone; maybe I was able to skirt around that disabling for a bit...
So basically there's nothing out there I can use as my default messaging app for my GV texts?
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Good question and I hope you get an answer to it.
In the meantime, as long as you have the APK for an older version that still integrated SMS, I don't see why you can't just uninstall the version on your S8 and replace it by sideloading the old APK. Or just get the version number and download it from any number of APK archive sites on the web.
Go to settings/apps and make sure hangouts has all the permissions enabled (including messages). After that, go back to hangouts and try to make it your default messaging whiting the app after you've enabled its permissions. Please report back if this works.
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Ugh. That's what I was afraid of.
I was using Hangouts on an older phone; maybe I was able to skirt around that disabling for a bit...
So basically there's nothing out there I can use as my default messaging app for my GV texts?
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Yeah, it's a shame. Google has so many chat products, and can't simplify a simple universal messaging service.
This is a good article about the Hangouts/SMS/Google Voice fallout recently. https://www.wired.com/2017/01/google-voice-update-makes-googles-messaging-strategy-confusing/
Nah even with all permissions enabled it's still not recognized by the OS as a possible default messaging app.
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Yeah, it's a shame. Google has so many chat products, and can't simplify a simple universal messaging service.
This is a good article about the Hangouts/SMS/Google Voice fallout recently. https://www.wired.com/2017/01/google-voice-update-makes-googles-messaging-strategy-confusing/
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Thanks for the link! It's indeed a real cluster...
I was initially looking into porting my GV number to my carrier (who knows when Google will shut-down GV altogether), but since I still need my carrier's number it's a dead end.
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Go to settings/apps and make sure hangouts has all the permissions enabled (including messages). After that, go back to hangouts and try to make it your default messaging whiting the app after you've enabled its permissions. Please report back if this works.
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Tried it with current GPlay version (18.0) but still no option available.
The permissions were initially turned off, but even after enabling all of them there was no option in either Hangouts either or the default app section.
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Good question and I hope you get an answer to it.
In the meantime, as long as you have the APK for an older version that still integrated SMS, I don't see why you can't just uninstall the version on your S8 and replace it by sideloading the old APK. Or just get the version number and download it from any number of APK archive sites on the web.
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Awesome suggestion which seems to have worked!
Well, sort of.
I ended up getting the last version before the official SMS removal (17.0).
Lo and behold, the SMS section appeared in Hangouts' options:
Through there, I selected Hangout as my default SMS app, as well as my GVoice number and account to be the default sender:
I then used Google Assistant to text a contact...
Which ended up using Hangouts (yay) but through my carrier's SMS (boo). It's also two separate threads in Hangouts (one with texts sent via GV, another via the carrier).
So, almost back to square one (the goal being to default-text via GV across the device).
Since Hangouts is the default SMS app, I'm guessing the current issue may be that the vocal command for "texting" is somehow tied to the carrier's SMS in lieu of GV. Especially since Hangouts' SMS default is GV...
Hangouts is moving support for SMS. Got a notification on my s6 the other day. Messages by Google is the new app specifically for SMS MMS like things now.
I know.....mmmmmm ghey...
I'm in the same boat. I hate native cell text messaging (and test messaging in general). GV has always been the lifesaver for me. But it is a pain that it no longer can register as a messaging app.
I honestly don't care what app is used as long as it routes the SMS through GV and does not require cell connection to be active and messages are stored server side on Google so are searchable and available on all devices.
Switched to a new phone and was not able to reply to SMS messages via my Google voice number. So I uninstalled Hangouts, sideloaded version 16, set my default SMS app to Google Hangouts through version 16 and it went back to working. I then updated the Hangouts app and it informed me that SMS will no longer work. So I pressed the show me button in the message to close the persistent notification, it sent me to the Android Messaging app that I closed and I can now use Hangouts to send SMS again. Hope that helps.
I just tried this and it looks like it no longer works. After it forces me to update to the latest version of Hangouts my default messaging app goes back to Messages and Hangouts is no longer an option. Does anybody else have any ideas?

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