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Hi everyone - been doing a search for a small app that records the outgoing call duration and is resettable but can't find one anywhere. Does anyone know of such an app that will run under WM5?
It's just to make life that bit easier as O2 expect you to call (& pay) their Customer Services to get an update on how many of your free minutes you've used at any point in the month. A bit Dark Ages if you ask me!!!
Any help much appreciated. :lol:
the answer seems to lie in the registry....
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/shell/cumulativecalltimers/line_0/
AllCurrent
AllCurrentNumCalls
AllPhoneLifeTime
AllPhoneLineTimeNumCalls
IncomingVoiceCurrent
IncomingVoiceCurrentNumCalls
IncomingVoicePhoneLifeTime
OutgoingDataCurrent
OutgoingDataCurrentNumCalls
Now all we need is some smart person to write us an app that shows us how many minutes of calls we've made (with an option to reset) and how many bytes of GPRS data we've bought....
OffBeatMammal said:
the answer seems to lie in the registry....
Now all we need is some smart person to write us an app that shows us how many minutes of calls we've made (with an option to reset) and how many bytes of GPRS data we've bought....
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start -> settings -> system -> device information -> Call duration
Will give you outgoing and incoming call duration.
Have a look at MortScript if you want to make a "tool" to display/reset all the values from the registry.
I thing what you need is Phone Dashboard. Google it, download it and see what info it can give, its great
Regards
This (free) script displays the values from the registry and asks if you want to reset "current" counters.
I can't find the "OutgoingData" counters in my registry. So I can't help you with GPRS counters.
I haven't tested it much, but it seems to work on my K-jam, ROM version 2.16.9.1.
It does mess with the registry so I suggest making a backup first if you want to try it. You also need to install MortScript:
http://www.sto-helit.de/modules/edito/content.php?id=38
search for DKToday. It counts your outgoing minutes and sms and can be set to reset on a specific date. For me, my free minutes are calculated per the 11th of each month, so each 11th of the month my timer will be set to 0. The prog can be found in the forum, just do a search on it.
Show call and data timers (from registry)
a small mod from the great script above...
this one doesn't do a reset (as I didn't want to loose data) but does display the data counts from the registry as well.
don't know if it's specific to the i-mate K-JAM AKU2 ROM and only tested on my unit, but have fun!
Re: Show call and data timers (from registry)
OffBeatMammal said:
a small mod from the great script above...
this one doesn't do a reset (as I didn't want to loose data) but does display the data counts from the registry as well.
don't know if it's specific to the i-mate K-JAM AKU2 ROM and only tested on my unit, but have fun!
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I want data counters too!
Are you using the same rom as me (I-Mate 2.16.9.1)? I still can't see the data counters in my registry. And I DO use gprs every day.
Have you installed something else that counts gprs trafffic and updates these registry values??
I would like an SMS counter too. I tried searching for it in the registry but couldnt find any.
Maybe I have to change to something else, like DKtoday or something, but i really do not like today plugins or programs that need to run continously.
very strange.
I've not installed any other third party apps to count GPRS data (was looking for a freebie!) or done anything out of the ordinary that I can remember since upgrading.
Do you have your machine set for ActiveSync / Direct Push? I use that as well as browsing the web. On the subject of trawling the web it appears that the CumulativeCallTimers is one of the reigstry keys which can be controlled by OEMs but as the phones are the same I'm surprised if there is any difference
ROM is 2.16.9.1 WWE (ExtROM 2.16.9.101)
What happens if you add the registry entries (BTW - what happens if you run my version of the script that looks up the entries - I've never used MortScript before so wasn't sure... I love Terry Pratchet as well!)
OffBeatMammal said:
very strange.
Do you have your machine set for ActiveSync / Direct Push?
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(BTW - what happens if you run my version of the script that looks up the entries - I've never used MortScript before so wasn't sure... I love Terry Pratchet as well!)
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I tried creating the registry keys, setting the values to 0. Browsed a bit via gprs but the values don't change...
Maybe its the push mail (that i don't use) that creates these values. Can you check if the values increase if you use internet explorer, or if it's only measuring the push-mail-data?
Your code looks good to me, I've just started using MortScript too, because i wanted an easy way to keep track of what i call "real" uptime, average uptime and total number of reboots.
Where does Terry Pratchet fit in?
the values increase with web browsing as well as the DirectPush mail (did a quick Google search and the numbers went up), only on GPRS not on WiFi (so although it says Data it's not getting confused)
The Terry Pratchet reference... Mort was a character (and the title) of one of his Discworld books. Sto-Helit is the name of a city on Discworld (where Mort, who becomes Deaths apprentice ends up as Duke). They are very funny books
I see. Thanks for testing it.
I dont have an exchange server that supports direct push, so i don't know how to get the counters "started" on my device.
Maybe I should read some of his books then - an ebook perhaps
I found a free pushmail exchange thing (mail2web.com) and set up an account, so now I have my push email set up on the phone too. But still no data counters. I've given up
how have you set this up? read the page, but it is not clear to me how it enables push email...
I didn't think the maIl2web solution was the new DirecgtPush email (as supported by the AKU2 ROM upgrade), more the 'old-school' SMS notification service.
The best (ie has a free 14 day trial and is good value) one I've found for small users without their own Exchange solution is 4SmartPhones (which is who I'm using - I push my normal mail to their hosted Exchange and it appears in my PC Outlook and on my phone by magic THey also have step-by-step instructions to make setup really easy
OffBeatMammal said:
The best (ie has a free 14 day trial and is good value) one I've found for small users without their own Exchange solution is 4SmartPhones (which is who I'm using - I push my normal mail to their hosted Exchange and it appears in my PC Outlook and on my phone by magic THey also have step-by-step instructions to make setup really easy
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You are probably right, I will try 4smartphones as soon as their webpages start working...
"Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete."
weird, they've been pretty well behaved in IE.
Try this link or just type in www-dot-4smartphones-dot-net and see if that behaves!
OffBeatMammal said:
weird, they've been pretty well behaved in IE.
Try this link or just type in www-dot-4smartphones-dot-net and see if that behaves!
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Don't work. Not in IE, not in PIE, not in Firefox...
it's weird... it seems on the first visit to the link it writes a cookie and then redirects to the wrong place, second visit works (at least that's what seemed to happen when I just tried in PIE)
the raw link (to the homepage) should work fine as that's not doing any redirects that I can see
I found something called http://www.4smartphone.no and set up a test account there. Could this be the norwegianified version of "your" 4smartphone service?
They say its "Direct Push", and i can start/stop it using the "direct push" button in the comm manager. Does this mean it's "real" direct push?
This did not do anthing to my data counters though. still at 0...
So there must be something else that starts these counters...
Have you set up the gprs connection by using the imate "select your provider" thing, or have you set it up manually?
Hi All,
I set my 8125 up to synch with my work exchange server in order to keep my calendar and contacts up to date.
My work server enforces a device based password now frequently when I go to access the device I have to put in a password before it unlocks and I can access it's functions.
Anyone know how to disable the password requirement?
I am not talking about removing the password to connect to the exchange server, just the enforced password to access the device itself after it has been sitting idle for an hour or so.
I figure it has probably set registry values to control the password type, size and frequency it has to be entered as well as enabling/disabling it.
Anyone have any knowledge of how this is implemented on WM5 with push email?
http://www.zenyee.com/
Bypass push email password
Perect!
Thanks
Could someone post a more direct answer to this question? I can't find anything on zenyee to address this....
Thanks!
EDIT: Never mind - I found the "Zenyee.com Stay Unlock.zip" utility here: http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030&page=2. (attached in case it disappears again!)
StayUnlock
More info can be found on this at
http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13030
Zenyee StayUnlock worked fine for me until I upgraded to an 8525. Now I am not sure if it is working or not. Once it informed me that the security policy was being applied but I have not seen it since and occasionally when I turn on the phone I have to enter a password. It happens every time if I power the phone all the way off and then on again.
I just modified the lock timeout to be 24 hours so that might help.
In order to access that setting you may have to modify a registry key to make the option availabe. I had to do this on my 8125 but the 8525 already had the key set. Details of that key change are in the same thread of the link above.
Working on 8925?
Can anyone get this thing to work on an 8925?
I installed the Cab Zenyee.comStayUnlock.cab
I see StayUnlock in the Startup Items Folder.
I see Zenyee.comStayUnlock in the "Remove Programs" window.
I have checked my registry and it is already set to 1.
I still get the prompt for password every 20 minutes.
Do I need to do anything besides install this cab (since my registry is already set properly)? I keep reading that people are "modifying the lock timeout". What does that mean and how do you do it? Heck, changing this to once every 24 hrs is MUCH better than every 20 minutes.
Robert
Nevermind. I just found out where the "password settings" was. (settings > personal tab > lock). I've set that to 24 hours. We'll see if Stay Unlock keeps that from prompting me every 24 hrs.
Robert
I installed the .cab file that I found on here and I was very pleased with the results
I then cooked it into my ROM and am still pleased
One thing that was slightly nagging me however was the notification you get when the policy is reapplied. For some reason our IT dept have configured the policy to refresh every hour, which I can obviously bypass with this excellent utility. Unfortunately every hour there is a notification and a (slightly) annoying bleep as the utility kicks in. Not that noticable but still a bit annoying.
Anyway I went direct to the site (http://www.zenyee.com/) of the developer and found a newer version (2.0) that operates in silent mode by default
Excellent..... Hope our IT dept don't find out
ADB100 said:
I installed the .cab file that I found on here and I was very pleased with the results
I then cooked it into my ROM and am still pleased
One thing that was slightly nagging me however was the notification you get when the policy is reapplied. For some reason our IT dept have configured the policy to refresh every hour, which I can obviously bypass with this excellent utility. Unfortunately every hour there is a notification and a (slightly) annoying bleep as the utility kicks in. Not that noticable but still a bit annoying.
Anyway I went direct to the site (http://www.zenyee.com/) of the developer and found a newer version (2.0) that operates in silent mode by default
Excellent..... Hope our IT dept don't find out
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i personally would be more concerned about IT telling HR.
As an IT Admin i can say those policies are there as much to protect corporate info as to annoy end users.
Stay Unlocked
I've been using this little app for 2 years since my Kaiser days and I love it. Now they got a new version which doesn't prompt security at all!
deedee said:
i personally would be more concerned about IT telling HR.
As an IT Admin i can say those policies are there as much to protect corporate info as to annoy end users.
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That's true and reasonable, but at the same time you have no chance to modify the applied settings temporarily, even when it causes more trouble than maintains security. Just an example: You use your PDA for car navigation. Chances that it will be stolen while you are driving are extremely low, but it is very dangerous to enter a PIN every 15-20 minutes during driving. For these occasional situations it is very useful to override default policy settings and set PIN activation interval to several hours instead of minutes.
Completely agree on this. I could have lived with the lock policy when the device stayed unlocked when plugged in, but keying a PIN while driving should not be done.
I had the same issue before with Blackberry Connect. Last friday I switched to ActiveSync push synchronization and stumbled into the WM lockscreen issue.
Zenyee's tool seems (just using it for some hours) to work on WM 6.5.x (23xxx build) Energy ROM.
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
andreasfuntastic said:
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
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i'd interested in this too. thanks!
andreasfuntastic said:
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
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Please follow my articles - I've also published a solution to this in my article "The secrets of being notified of new, incoming E-mail messages on the Pocket PC" (see the section "The problem of staying-on connection" at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=915&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ):
GB-SOFT Tweak will be your friend; go and read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=611&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
thank you,Menneisyys, for your answer. Of course I already read your (very interesting and usefull) articles and I know the program GB-softtweak already too.
My question is not how to disconnect network after each mailchecking.
I am searching for a programm or a reg.tweak to set the period of checking mails automaticaly to more than 60 min. I prefere a value of 8 hours, thats enough for me. (this saves battery, less downloadvolume, and no disturbing mail notifications at night while sleeping between 23 to 7 h)
So many settings can be changed in the registry, why not this value too?
Maybe someone knows?
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So many settings can be changed in the registry, why not this value too?
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I haven't checked this myself, but: most Messaging-related stuff is either stored as a binary flag (in large chunks of binary values) or in WindowsCE databases. I think in this case the latter is the case.
With other words, does this mean that I can not change? (I dont know how to fiddle around in the database).
Anyone with a solution?
andreasfuntastic said:
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
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I have built a custom program to check emails based on the schedule you built.
I do not know if that's what you are asking.. Please check under my signature for link 'rk-OSR'
thanks for your answer!
before trying I would like to know:
I still use WM5
1) can I set the period for acess to a mailserver as I like? (multiple settings possible?), for example during day every 1 h, at night nothing?
2) I have manny emailacounts. Can I set for each a different period?
3) I dont use wifi. Can I use Umts connection? ( can I set your program use the 'standard internet connection' too? I mean the one which I normaly use for browsing with IE)
4) will the device wake up from standby when checking mailserver (of cours I guess it will wake up when a mail arrives because you mentioned that your programm is notificaton based)
I know, many questions.
thanks in advance
andreasfuntastic said:
thanks for your answer!
before trying I would like to know:
I still use WM5
1) can I set the period for acess to a mailserver as I like? (multiple settings possible?), for example during day every 1 h, at night nothing?
2) I have manny emailacounts. Can I set for each a different period?
3) I dont use wifi. Can I use Umts connection? ( can I set your program use the 'standard internet connection' too? I mean the one which I normaly use for browsing with IE)
4) will the device wake up from standby when checking mailserver (of cours I guess it will wake up when a mail arrives because you mentioned that your programm is notificaton based)
I know, many questions.
thanks in advance
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First of all, rk-OSR just performs email account send receive at specified time. Not from the exchange server.
All your email accounts will be available for sync using rk-OSR
1)Sync schedules you have to manually setup each... You can not set up eg for every 1 hr OR sync from 10Am to 5pm. You need to configure each sync
2)Number of mail account does not matter, but you can not specify which account to sync when. All choosen accounts are synced up
3)It will work on wifi or gprs/edge/3g etc
4)You can set up either way. Wake up or not to wake up.
But why don't you install the app and see if satisfies your requirements.
I hated this on WM5. However on Smartphone you could always have it check once a day not just from 1-60 mins. Gladly WM6 Pro fixes all this. You can have it check once a day and also have it send emails when you click "send". You still can't set times for your pop 3's to auto check but once a day is better than every 60 mins.
WM6 Black on the Tytn is solid.
Thank you juiceppc!
now I upgraded to WM6 too (and I am glad I did it)
I set to check mail once a day (I use a pop3 account) and it is working well.
Can somebody tell me how to find out at which time such dayly mailcheck happens?
Is it possible to set the exaxt time for a dayly mailcheck ?
(for example: check mail every day at 12.00 h)
Hi All,
I've searched an searched, but can't find a solution for my problem:
I use Exchange at work, so I use Pushmail on WM^(HTC TyTN). But of course I use popmail for my personal email. I have Outlook Mobile set to send/receive every 60 minutes. And everything is working fine. Untill here, there's no problem.
However; more and more people are trying to sell me Viagra, penis-anlargers, Russian brides and all that sort of stuff. Normally I'd just delete them, but I'm receiving emails at night. I know I can switch the retreival to "manually" every night, and then back to "every 60 minutes" every morning, but there must be a better way.
I've seen a program as described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696, however, this is not a background-app.
Does anyone know of a way to alter the schedule for Outlook Mobile in the same way as ActiveSync? So I can use peak-times and off-peak-times?
Help is much appreciated!
Sometimes, I seriously wonder if these viagra business model does actually works.
Anyway, does switching off your phone (e.g. having it offline, no email, no calls, no SMS) an option? there are a few programs around that can switch your phone on/off on night times.
hanmin said:
Sometimes, I seriously wonder if these viagra business model does actually works.
Anyway, does switching off your phone (e.g. having it offline, no email, no calls, no SMS) an option? there are a few programs around that can switch your phone on/off on night times.
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It would be, but part of my job is the "stand-by" service. In case one of our clients has an emergency...
If you can find some program that stop your data signal, you can consider using this scheduling program http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294575
I think there is a NoData software that stops your phone from having data connection.
hanmin said:
If you can find some program that stop your data signal, you can consider using this scheduling program http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294575
I think there is a NoData software that stops your phone from having data connection.
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My data connection usually auto-connects, so I don't know if that would do the trick... Is there no way of "hacking" the schedule?
Found a workaround
I use PhoneAlarm, and I just set the "night" profile to not do anything on new email...
That'll have to do for now.... But still looking...
stynos said:
My data connection usually auto-connects, so I don't know if that would do the trick... Is there no way of "hacking" the schedule?
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I'm all for this too..
It would be nice to have a 3rd party app that can more directly configure your AS/Push schedule. Right now, peak and off-peak is just too limited.
Some days I want full Push, others I want every 60 minutes, night I want on Manual, etc. It'd be nice to do day-by-day with options for full-push, every 15, 30, 60, etc..
True, Phonealarm does this but if all you want is a more robust AS syncing scheduler, it's very overkill.
If someone could do make an "advanced AS scheduler" program, that'd be quite popular I imagine (I'm surprised it hasn't been done already. Bruce at pocketmax.net shows it can be done for most devices...)
Anyone know of a way to get the hd2 to only check for emails during the day? it only gives options such as check every hour/4 hours etc, but not a time range.
As a result, it buzzes for emails received in the middle of the night. I want it to buzz for phone calls or text messages (could be emergencies), but not for emails which are usually trivial. So switching it off or silent is not an option
In the latest G-Profile there is an option to disallow all data connections, including emails. I have set up a night profile which has this option enabled so it does not download emails or update the weather and such. In the morning the night profile switches off automatically before my alarm goes off and so when I wake up the weather and emails are updated. Some other profile programs might have this feature also...
Either PhoneAlarm or Email Scheduler (http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/)
How did you manage to get updates during the night?
For me auto-updates work only when I turn screen on...
Bence said:
How did you manage to get updates during the night?
For me auto-updates work only when I turn screen on...
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same here: my phone does not update weather when in sleep mode: any solution?
UncleBeer said:
Either PhoneAlarm or Email Scheduler (http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/)
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Has anyone used the Email scheduler? it looks reasonable (and free), but I don't like installing stuff that I don't know for (pretty) sure will work. I've just had a 'conversation' about my data usage on Virgin UK - apparently there's a 25MB per day limit and I was at 19MB by 8:00pm, so a little nervous that I'm going to run up charges. Need to limit and/or monitor my data connection.
thegios said:
same here: my phone does not update weather when in sleep mode: any solution?
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Set windows to use the gps chip. Go to settings, menu, all settings, system, external gps and configure com ports in all the tabs. This will allow it to find your location. If you data connection is ending when in sleep mode it won't be able to update the forcast data. The fix for this seems to be either disable direct push and/or update the radio to 2.10.50.xx
All you need to do is go to activesync; there you can set peak and offpeak times; set offpeak to whatever hours (at night) that you want (for example 10pm-8am) and set it to not.
Just to be blunt as possible Activesync>Menu>Schedule> "Off Peak Times" set to Manual and then set your off peak hours