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Download email period more than 60 min

I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?

andreasfuntastic said:
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
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i'd interested in this too. thanks!

andreasfuntastic said:
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
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Please follow my articles - I've also published a solution to this in my article "The secrets of being notified of new, incoming E-mail messages on the Pocket PC" (see the section "The problem of staying-on connection" at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=915&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ):
GB-SOFT Tweak will be your friend; go and read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=611&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

thank you,Menneisyys, for your answer. Of course I already read your (very interesting and usefull) articles and I know the program GB-softtweak already too.
My question is not how to disconnect network after each mailchecking.
I am searching for a programm or a reg.tweak to set the period of checking mails automaticaly to more than 60 min. I prefere a value of 8 hours, thats enough for me. (this saves battery, less downloadvolume, and no disturbing mail notifications at night while sleeping between 23 to 7 h)
So many settings can be changed in the registry, why not this value too?
Maybe someone knows?

andreasfuntastic said:
So many settings can be changed in the registry, why not this value too?
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I haven't checked this myself, but: most Messaging-related stuff is either stored as a binary flag (in large chunks of binary values) or in WindowsCE databases. I think in this case the latter is the case.

With other words, does this mean that I can not change? (I dont know how to fiddle around in the database).

Anyone with a solution?

andreasfuntastic said:
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
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I have built a custom program to check emails based on the schedule you built.
I do not know if that's what you are asking.. Please check under my signature for link 'rk-OSR'

thanks for your answer!
before trying I would like to know:
I still use WM5
1) can I set the period for acess to a mailserver as I like? (multiple settings possible?), for example during day every 1 h, at night nothing?
2) I have manny emailacounts. Can I set for each a different period?
3) I dont use wifi. Can I use Umts connection? ( can I set your program use the 'standard internet connection' too? I mean the one which I normaly use for browsing with IE)
4) will the device wake up from standby when checking mailserver (of cours I guess it will wake up when a mail arrives because you mentioned that your programm is notificaton based)
I know, many questions.
thanks in advance

andreasfuntastic said:
thanks for your answer!
before trying I would like to know:
I still use WM5
1) can I set the period for acess to a mailserver as I like? (multiple settings possible?), for example during day every 1 h, at night nothing?
2) I have manny emailacounts. Can I set for each a different period?
3) I dont use wifi. Can I use Umts connection? ( can I set your program use the 'standard internet connection' too? I mean the one which I normaly use for browsing with IE)
4) will the device wake up from standby when checking mailserver (of cours I guess it will wake up when a mail arrives because you mentioned that your programm is notificaton based)
I know, many questions.
thanks in advance
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First of all, rk-OSR just performs email account send receive at specified time. Not from the exchange server.
All your email accounts will be available for sync using rk-OSR
1)Sync schedules you have to manually setup each... You can not set up eg for every 1 hr OR sync from 10Am to 5pm. You need to configure each sync
2)Number of mail account does not matter, but you can not specify which account to sync when. All choosen accounts are synced up
3)It will work on wifi or gprs/edge/3g etc
4)You can set up either way. Wake up or not to wake up.
But why don't you install the app and see if satisfies your requirements.

I hated this on WM5. However on Smartphone you could always have it check once a day not just from 1-60 mins. Gladly WM6 Pro fixes all this. You can have it check once a day and also have it send emails when you click "send". You still can't set times for your pop 3's to auto check but once a day is better than every 60 mins.
WM6 Black on the Tytn is solid.

Thank you juiceppc!
now I upgraded to WM6 too (and I am glad I did it)
I set to check mail once a day (I use a pop3 account) and it is working well.
Can somebody tell me how to find out at which time such dayly mailcheck happens?
Is it possible to set the exaxt time for a dayly mailcheck ?
(for example: check mail every day at 12.00 h)

change Send/receive schedule peak-times

Hi All,
I've searched an searched, but can't find a solution for my problem:
I use Exchange at work, so I use Pushmail on WM^(HTC TyTN). But of course I use popmail for my personal email. I have Outlook Mobile set to send/receive every 60 minutes. And everything is working fine. Untill here, there's no problem.
However; more and more people are trying to sell me Viagra, penis-anlargers, Russian brides and all that sort of stuff. Normally I'd just delete them, but I'm receiving emails at night. I know I can switch the retreival to "manually" every night, and then back to "every 60 minutes" every morning, but there must be a better way.
I've seen a program as described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316696, however, this is not a background-app.
Does anyone know of a way to alter the schedule for Outlook Mobile in the same way as ActiveSync? So I can use peak-times and off-peak-times?
Help is much appreciated!

Sometimes, I seriously wonder if these viagra business model does actually works.
Anyway, does switching off your phone (e.g. having it offline, no email, no calls, no SMS) an option? there are a few programs around that can switch your phone on/off on night times.

hanmin said:
Sometimes, I seriously wonder if these viagra business model does actually works.
Anyway, does switching off your phone (e.g. having it offline, no email, no calls, no SMS) an option? there are a few programs around that can switch your phone on/off on night times.
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It would be, but part of my job is the "stand-by" service. In case one of our clients has an emergency...

If you can find some program that stop your data signal, you can consider using this scheduling program http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294575
I think there is a NoData software that stops your phone from having data connection.

hanmin said:
If you can find some program that stop your data signal, you can consider using this scheduling program http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294575
I think there is a NoData software that stops your phone from having data connection.
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My data connection usually auto-connects, so I don't know if that would do the trick... Is there no way of "hacking" the schedule?

Found a workaround
I use PhoneAlarm, and I just set the "night" profile to not do anything on new email...
That'll have to do for now.... But still looking...

stynos said:
My data connection usually auto-connects, so I don't know if that would do the trick... Is there no way of "hacking" the schedule?
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I'm all for this too..
It would be nice to have a 3rd party app that can more directly configure your AS/Push schedule. Right now, peak and off-peak is just too limited.
Some days I want full Push, others I want every 60 minutes, night I want on Manual, etc. It'd be nice to do day-by-day with options for full-push, every 15, 30, 60, etc..
True, Phonealarm does this but if all you want is a more robust AS syncing scheduler, it's very overkill.
If someone could do make an "advanced AS scheduler" program, that'd be quite popular I imagine (I'm surprised it hasn't been done already. Bruce at pocketmax.net shows it can be done for most devices...)

Checking mail in standby doesn't work

As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.

vangrieg said:
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
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through which connection ar eyou checking mail? wifi or celluar?
when your phone goes into standby, only celluar connection is active.the wifi is turned off (unless you change the registry or use aadvanced tool to maintain wifi connection while the phone is in standby).

buggybug0 said:
through which connection ar eyou checking mail? wifi or celluar?
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Cellular of course. I know that Wi-Fi doesn't work in standby.

Hi,
I've got the same problem. My X1 is configured to fetch mail through the data-connection (which remains open while in standby). But the mail is fetched only when I get the phone out of standby.
My version is the dutch unbranded version. Rom version: 1.02.937.3

vangrieg said:
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
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Hi,
I have the same issue with my recently purchased Raphael.
No email pop when the device is in standby mode.
My former phone (Hermes, WM6.0) had a totally different behaviour, retrieving emails at the configured interval, either through cellulafr or WiFi connection. It seemed that the scheduler was able to wake up the device, open the connection as appropriate, and pop the mail server. Then notification was issued as a sound alarm, LED blinking and/or screen pop-up.
Is the new behaviuor linked to WM6.1 or to a manufacturer specific setting?
Please can someone help to sort this out ?!?
HTC Touch Pro T7272 (Raphael)
ROM 1.90.406.5 FRE
Radio 1.02.25.19

I haven't been able to solve this issue. I doubt it's a WM6.1 bug because I haven't encountered it on my previous devices with the same operating system. So the firmware has something to do with it apparently.
I installed one of the push mail programs called Seven (www.seven.com), and checking mail in background works just fine for me now, but this is not a fix for the native client bug of course.

I accidentally deleted poutlook file. Can someone please upload it so I don't have to resort to hard resetting the phone? I have a lot installed on it.
Please.
Thanks.

same problem
I cannot get the mail client to check for mail every 30 minutes when it is in standby.
Anybody?

Same for me. Discovered this problem in the last few days after setting up my Yahoo account to collect every 15 mins. It seems to do it as soon as I wake the device.
Also tried setting up Peak and Off Peak times and the schedule box is greyed out.
I set up a fake exchange server to highlight it but Im not sure if the settings are universal or just for the fake server?
@vangrieg
Which seven product was it please?

How does this Seven work?
Surely there's a way to make it sync while in standby? It's almost like you can't receive a text or a phone call until you wake your device??!?!?!

Shetlander said:
Which seven product was it please?
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I'm using their beta program - http://community.seven.com/main.php
Need to register, but it's free.

AndyCr15 said:
How does this Seven work?
Surely there's a way to make it sync while in standby? It's almost like you can't receive a text or a phone call until you wake your device??!?!?!
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It works fine in standby. I'm not sure what you mean when asking how it works. It's a push mail service which uses their server as a proxy of sorts, which checks your mail on POP, IMAP, Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, and even Outlook Web Access accounts. Whenever there's new mail, it's pushed to your device. So you don't check mail from your device actually, it's done by the server, your phone just downloads mails when they arrive.
From the UI perspective, you are just using your stock WM Outlook.

Text messages seem fine, but I've noticed the same with emails - nothing happens til the device wakes.
This is a bit of a deal breaker really - MS couldn't put this in to force people to use Exchange or something daft like that, could they?

I had the same issue on my diamond and You have to use one of the following programms called "Kaiser Tweak or Schaps_AdvancedConfigTool". There are two points, where you can set the "Suspend Timeout from AC resuming and Battery resuming". I have set the values from 1 second to 75 seconds

I dont quite understand how or why it should make a difference but I seem to have inadvertantly fixed this issue with my phone. Im on O2 and couldnt get my MMS to work despite having the correct settings. Eventually on the O2 active connection, I changed the WAP protocol from WAP2.0 to WAP1.2 and my MMS worked. Since then though so has my email! Previously it would only work when the phone was fully awake or when i sent/received, now there are messages waiting when I switch the phone on!
Gav

Ive had this since my Wizard. I assumed it was for a reason. If you dont touch your phone for 8 hours, but it is still connecting and retrieving mail every 10 minutes it is a waste of battery power. You won't see the mail till you bring it out of standby whether it has retrieved them or not.

Schoolydoo, Mine checks every couple of hours and when i use my phone they are there ready to read which im happy with as it irritated me having to send and receive manually. Just posted what Ive found to possibley help others. Ive not had chance to set up a push mail system but as Ive got several different accounts Im happy with how mine is now working. It just seems odd that the protocol thing should effect the auto retrieval.
Gav

21gg said:
I dont quite understand how or why it should make a difference but I seem to have inadvertantly fixed this issue with my phone. Im on O2 and couldnt get my MMS to work despite having the correct settings. Eventually on the O2 active connection, I changed the WAP protocol from WAP2.0 to WAP1.2 and my MMS worked. Since then though so has my email! Previously it would only work when the phone was fully awake or when i sent/received, now there are messages waiting when I switch the phone on!
Gav
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Hey, could you describe exactly how you did this please? I can't find the setting for this anywhere

In messages select the left hand 'all messages' tab, then right hand 'menu' select mms options, then the 'servers' tab. My phone then shows the only connection as 'o2 active MMS', select it and it opens a screen where you can edit the settings, the bottom option is WAP Version, select 1.2 and its done.
Like I said, stil dont know why it works but deffinately does! Let me know how you get on.
Gav

21gg said:
In messages select the left hand 'all messages' tab
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I was looking in the Connections options under the control panel settings. Doh.
I've changed this option and I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks for your quick reply Gav.

LongRunner v0.1 Beta - long life your battery - radio off, email sync on

The idea is: Radio consumes not unsignificant battery power, especially when you're travelling. Sometimes you dont have to be available for calls...
LongRunner turns off the radio part and keep that for defined time interval. Then it automatically sync all POP/IMAP accounts, the On interval should be long enough to even receive SMS.
Download
LongRunner.cab
(Tested on smartphone platform only, however it should work on PPC's too)
What do you think of this idea? Can it save any battery power? Can this be useful for anyone? Should I work on this or delete the project?

that's BRILLIANT!
thank you!
(Does that answer your questions? )
btw, the mail check thingy isn't necessary for everyone.. i suggest having the option to check mail and not make it the only option.

I'm currently not home to try and test this (Happy Thanksgiving everyone) but this is a great idea! I cannot wait to test this and please do continue development!

really great idea ! keep develop this project

i think it's a good idea too... i'll test it next week...

Any plans to support FlexMail sync? If you need, I can get the command FM uses to sync.

when i click start nothing happens.

Will the phone wake up automatically when someone is calling ?

chihliouma said:
Will the phone wake up automatically when someone is calling ?
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If the purpose of the app is to disable the radio, hence incoming calls, then I would imagine No - it won't ring.

This is a cool Idea!

great idea as i would defenenetly use for sms.... but it is not working on my kaiser.
Will watch for updates

Whats the difference between setting to "flight mode" when no need to be avail.?

this one is automatic and will check your mail after a specific time interval...
so that you don't need to remember to put your phone on flight mode and then back.

joel2009 said:
great idea as i would defenenetly use for sms.... but it is not working on my kaiser.
Will watch for updates
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i believe that wont happen, since sms uses radio.
this is for emails only.
correct me if im wrong OP!

It's not for emails only. SMS's and calls are the same thing. when you turn your radio back on you'll receive your messages. Emails have to be checked manually as they don't depend on the network, that's why he added the option to check emails when the radio's turned back on.

I clicked on start and nothing happened.
I have a Sprint Touch Diamond.

Make it a little a clear:
When radio off - How will incoming calls be received ?
SMS may be recd as and when I put my radio active.

parthabhatta said:
Make it a little a clear:
When radio off - How will incoming calls be received ?
SMS may be recd as and when I put my radio active.
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you won't get incomming calls. all this does is allow you to set intervals for the radio to be turned on so that you can download your emails and sms.

i think this is what the app does
1 it disables the radio to save your battery(will disable both messages and calls)
2 it will enable the radio for a short period and check for messages
3 after the checking is done it will turn off radio again

My Tilt runs 40 hours on a charge with Flexmail running with online IMAP on 2 folders and periodically syncing 4 others. With Flexmail off, I imagine it would run well over 100 hours.
Doesn't seem like battery life is a big deal to me.. If your battery is running over 3-4%/hr, it's because of a lot of calls and or data and I don't see this program helping much in that direction.

Email send and Receive schedule

Hi
I was wondering if it is possible to set the send and receive schedule to work only during working hours. It is a bit of a pain as currently it is doing the send/receive every 15mins 24hours a day and the evening messages are more than likely junk.
If not then maybe there is a way to set a script to change the email download options and this can be set to run at the times required to turn send/receive on/off
Thanks
Sully

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sorry, not possible

I am currently looking at mortscript but not sure if I can do it with that. I am thinking that send/receive can be set to automatic or manual and this setting must be in the reg. If I can write a little script or app that can change this reg value at specific set times therefore swithing on/off email download.
Never done anything on PPC before but I will give it a try and report back.
Sully

If your using activesync for emails then it is possible.
Open Activesync, goto Schedule, Set sync for peak times as every xminutes or as items arrive, set of peak for manual.
Then adjust peak times to suit your work day.
Works great for me.

vbakker said:
sorry, not possible
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Not so fast! I use just the program hungabunga is looking for
http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/
It can be used to automaticly change the send/recieve shedule based on the day of the week and time of day, it also supports push email.
I use it to turn my email checking off at night automaticly so it doesn't disturb me and also preserves my battery life.

tabannis you are a star, thanks just what I needed
Sully