I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
andreasfuntastic said:
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
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i'd interested in this too. thanks!
andreasfuntastic said:
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
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Please follow my articles - I've also published a solution to this in my article "The secrets of being notified of new, incoming E-mail messages on the Pocket PC" (see the section "The problem of staying-on connection" at http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=915&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 ):
GB-SOFT Tweak will be your friend; go and read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=611&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
thank you,Menneisyys, for your answer. Of course I already read your (very interesting and usefull) articles and I know the program GB-softtweak already too.
My question is not how to disconnect network after each mailchecking.
I am searching for a programm or a reg.tweak to set the period of checking mails automaticaly to more than 60 min. I prefere a value of 8 hours, thats enough for me. (this saves battery, less downloadvolume, and no disturbing mail notifications at night while sleeping between 23 to 7 h)
So many settings can be changed in the registry, why not this value too?
Maybe someone knows?
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So many settings can be changed in the registry, why not this value too?
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I haven't checked this myself, but: most Messaging-related stuff is either stored as a binary flag (in large chunks of binary values) or in WindowsCE databases. I think in this case the latter is the case.
With other words, does this mean that I can not change? (I dont know how to fiddle around in the database).
Anyone with a solution?
andreasfuntastic said:
I have a TYTN.
If I want to download emails automaticaly with a POP acount it is possible to set the period for checking emails between 1 to 60 min.
What if I want ot set the period to mor than 60 min ? (for example only 3 x per day)
This would help me to save battery power (because If you set to periodical checking the networkconnection does not disconnect automaticaly. You can disconnect only manualy).
I measured 25 % more battery drain if I am permanet online in the UMTS network.
If I am permanet online I have this nerving bug to get no phonecall when bluetooth is switched on too.
Anyone knowes a trick how to set up?
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I have built a custom program to check emails based on the schedule you built.
I do not know if that's what you are asking.. Please check under my signature for link 'rk-OSR'
thanks for your answer!
before trying I would like to know:
I still use WM5
1) can I set the period for acess to a mailserver as I like? (multiple settings possible?), for example during day every 1 h, at night nothing?
2) I have manny emailacounts. Can I set for each a different period?
3) I dont use wifi. Can I use Umts connection? ( can I set your program use the 'standard internet connection' too? I mean the one which I normaly use for browsing with IE)
4) will the device wake up from standby when checking mailserver (of cours I guess it will wake up when a mail arrives because you mentioned that your programm is notificaton based)
I know, many questions.
thanks in advance
andreasfuntastic said:
thanks for your answer!
before trying I would like to know:
I still use WM5
1) can I set the period for acess to a mailserver as I like? (multiple settings possible?), for example during day every 1 h, at night nothing?
2) I have manny emailacounts. Can I set for each a different period?
3) I dont use wifi. Can I use Umts connection? ( can I set your program use the 'standard internet connection' too? I mean the one which I normaly use for browsing with IE)
4) will the device wake up from standby when checking mailserver (of cours I guess it will wake up when a mail arrives because you mentioned that your programm is notificaton based)
I know, many questions.
thanks in advance
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First of all, rk-OSR just performs email account send receive at specified time. Not from the exchange server.
All your email accounts will be available for sync using rk-OSR
1)Sync schedules you have to manually setup each... You can not set up eg for every 1 hr OR sync from 10Am to 5pm. You need to configure each sync
2)Number of mail account does not matter, but you can not specify which account to sync when. All choosen accounts are synced up
3)It will work on wifi or gprs/edge/3g etc
4)You can set up either way. Wake up or not to wake up.
But why don't you install the app and see if satisfies your requirements.
I hated this on WM5. However on Smartphone you could always have it check once a day not just from 1-60 mins. Gladly WM6 Pro fixes all this. You can have it check once a day and also have it send emails when you click "send". You still can't set times for your pop 3's to auto check but once a day is better than every 60 mins.
WM6 Black on the Tytn is solid.
Thank you juiceppc!
now I upgraded to WM6 too (and I am glad I did it)
I set to check mail once a day (I use a pop3 account) and it is working well.
Can somebody tell me how to find out at which time such dayly mailcheck happens?
Is it possible to set the exaxt time for a dayly mailcheck ?
(for example: check mail every day at 12.00 h)
Related
has anyone developed software or knows how to alter the setup on XDAII to avoid the following:-
when a text message arrives it disconnects the POP3 e-mail and has to be manually set back onto the POP3 account before picking up any new mail...... this is annoying!
When a message (e-mail or text) arrives it turns on the screen which is then active, if i have been using the phone and not closed the application fully (just hung up using the silver button) when the phone is in my pocket it starts calling the last number or something like that. I had a 10minute international call like this last week AND IT REALLY PISSED ME OFF!!!!!!!!! :evil:
so please if anyone knows how to fix these annoying little habits - could you let me know.
Thanks
R
Rasputin said:
when a text message arrives it disconnects the POP3 e-mail and has to be manually set back onto the POP3 account before picking up any new mail...... this is annoying!
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By design, the GSM bearer has higher priority over GPRS "attaching" but not "transmission" ... this means if a phone or SMS comes in the middle of a live GPRS session (data is being sent or received) it will be blocked till the last packet is transmitted ... that's why the caller may got busy tone sometimes and other times not ... depends on the GPRS traffic status ... but since the GPRS is "Always on" in WM2003, the session will be resumed immediately but the application must be designed to keep the last session stack
Rasputin said:
When a message (e-mail or text) arrives it turns on the screen which is then active, if i have been using the phone and not closed the application fully (just hung up using the silver button) when the phone is in my pocket it starts calling the last number or something like that. I had a 10minute international call like this last week AND IT REALLY PISSED ME OFF!!!!!!!!! :evil:
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you can select to lock all buttons except power when the device is off
start -> settings -> System -> Button Lock
cheers Biso,
but even with the buttons locked, a new message turns them all on again for however long the auto power off period is...... and then that is provided that no buttons are pushed!!
the point i was trying to make about the POP3 stuff is that if you have the device set to check e-mails say every 5 minutes, in order to do this the folder in the inbox has to be set to POP3 (or whatever you have named it)
if the SMS folder is open then it wont check POP3.
So every time you receive a text message the SMS folder is opened and it will prevent the device checking for e-mails until you go into the inbox and select the correct folder - ie. POP3!
I know its true that phone calls will interupt the GPRS connection, and that is not really a problem (apart from signing out of messenger).
Anyway thanks
- I never use MMS but i guess that would probably cause the same problems????
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
vangrieg said:
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
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through which connection ar eyou checking mail? wifi or celluar?
when your phone goes into standby, only celluar connection is active.the wifi is turned off (unless you change the registry or use aadvanced tool to maintain wifi connection while the phone is in standby).
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through which connection ar eyou checking mail? wifi or celluar?
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Cellular of course. I know that Wi-Fi doesn't work in standby.
Hi,
I've got the same problem. My X1 is configured to fetch mail through the data-connection (which remains open while in standby). But the mail is fetched only when I get the phone out of standby.
My version is the dutch unbranded version. Rom version: 1.02.937.3
vangrieg said:
As the topic title suggests, I'm having problems checking mail with poutlook while in standby.
The "Check every..." option doesn't work, and when I hit "Send/Receive" and then press Power to enter Standby mode it stays in the same state when I power on the device later.
Does anyone else encounter this? On which ROM version/build?
I'm using ROM version 1.14.401.3 build 22273 WWE.
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Hi,
I have the same issue with my recently purchased Raphael.
No email pop when the device is in standby mode.
My former phone (Hermes, WM6.0) had a totally different behaviour, retrieving emails at the configured interval, either through cellulafr or WiFi connection. It seemed that the scheduler was able to wake up the device, open the connection as appropriate, and pop the mail server. Then notification was issued as a sound alarm, LED blinking and/or screen pop-up.
Is the new behaviuor linked to WM6.1 or to a manufacturer specific setting?
Please can someone help to sort this out ?!?
HTC Touch Pro T7272 (Raphael)
ROM 1.90.406.5 FRE
Radio 1.02.25.19
I haven't been able to solve this issue. I doubt it's a WM6.1 bug because I haven't encountered it on my previous devices with the same operating system. So the firmware has something to do with it apparently.
I installed one of the push mail programs called Seven (www.seven.com), and checking mail in background works just fine for me now, but this is not a fix for the native client bug of course.
I accidentally deleted poutlook file. Can someone please upload it so I don't have to resort to hard resetting the phone? I have a lot installed on it.
Please.
Thanks.
same problem
I cannot get the mail client to check for mail every 30 minutes when it is in standby.
Anybody?
Same for me. Discovered this problem in the last few days after setting up my Yahoo account to collect every 15 mins. It seems to do it as soon as I wake the device.
Also tried setting up Peak and Off Peak times and the schedule box is greyed out.
I set up a fake exchange server to highlight it but Im not sure if the settings are universal or just for the fake server?
@vangrieg
Which seven product was it please?
How does this Seven work?
Surely there's a way to make it sync while in standby? It's almost like you can't receive a text or a phone call until you wake your device??!?!?!
Shetlander said:
Which seven product was it please?
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I'm using their beta program - http://community.seven.com/main.php
Need to register, but it's free.
AndyCr15 said:
How does this Seven work?
Surely there's a way to make it sync while in standby? It's almost like you can't receive a text or a phone call until you wake your device??!?!?!
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It works fine in standby. I'm not sure what you mean when asking how it works. It's a push mail service which uses their server as a proxy of sorts, which checks your mail on POP, IMAP, Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail, and even Outlook Web Access accounts. Whenever there's new mail, it's pushed to your device. So you don't check mail from your device actually, it's done by the server, your phone just downloads mails when they arrive.
From the UI perspective, you are just using your stock WM Outlook.
Text messages seem fine, but I've noticed the same with emails - nothing happens til the device wakes.
This is a bit of a deal breaker really - MS couldn't put this in to force people to use Exchange or something daft like that, could they?
I had the same issue on my diamond and You have to use one of the following programms called "Kaiser Tweak or Schaps_AdvancedConfigTool". There are two points, where you can set the "Suspend Timeout from AC resuming and Battery resuming". I have set the values from 1 second to 75 seconds
I dont quite understand how or why it should make a difference but I seem to have inadvertantly fixed this issue with my phone. Im on O2 and couldnt get my MMS to work despite having the correct settings. Eventually on the O2 active connection, I changed the WAP protocol from WAP2.0 to WAP1.2 and my MMS worked. Since then though so has my email! Previously it would only work when the phone was fully awake or when i sent/received, now there are messages waiting when I switch the phone on!
Gav
Ive had this since my Wizard. I assumed it was for a reason. If you dont touch your phone for 8 hours, but it is still connecting and retrieving mail every 10 minutes it is a waste of battery power. You won't see the mail till you bring it out of standby whether it has retrieved them or not.
Schoolydoo, Mine checks every couple of hours and when i use my phone they are there ready to read which im happy with as it irritated me having to send and receive manually. Just posted what Ive found to possibley help others. Ive not had chance to set up a push mail system but as Ive got several different accounts Im happy with how mine is now working. It just seems odd that the protocol thing should effect the auto retrieval.
Gav
21gg said:
I dont quite understand how or why it should make a difference but I seem to have inadvertantly fixed this issue with my phone. Im on O2 and couldnt get my MMS to work despite having the correct settings. Eventually on the O2 active connection, I changed the WAP protocol from WAP2.0 to WAP1.2 and my MMS worked. Since then though so has my email! Previously it would only work when the phone was fully awake or when i sent/received, now there are messages waiting when I switch the phone on!
Gav
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Hey, could you describe exactly how you did this please? I can't find the setting for this anywhere
In messages select the left hand 'all messages' tab, then right hand 'menu' select mms options, then the 'servers' tab. My phone then shows the only connection as 'o2 active MMS', select it and it opens a screen where you can edit the settings, the bottom option is WAP Version, select 1.2 and its done.
Like I said, stil dont know why it works but deffinately does! Let me know how you get on.
Gav
21gg said:
In messages select the left hand 'all messages' tab
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I was looking in the Connections options under the control panel settings. Doh.
I've changed this option and I'll let you know how I get on. Thanks for your quick reply Gav.
The idea is: Radio consumes not unsignificant battery power, especially when you're travelling. Sometimes you dont have to be available for calls...
LongRunner turns off the radio part and keep that for defined time interval. Then it automatically sync all POP/IMAP accounts, the On interval should be long enough to even receive SMS.
Download
LongRunner.cab
(Tested on smartphone platform only, however it should work on PPC's too)
What do you think of this idea? Can it save any battery power? Can this be useful for anyone? Should I work on this or delete the project?
that's BRILLIANT!
thank you!
(Does that answer your questions? )
btw, the mail check thingy isn't necessary for everyone.. i suggest having the option to check mail and not make it the only option.
I'm currently not home to try and test this (Happy Thanksgiving everyone) but this is a great idea! I cannot wait to test this and please do continue development!
really great idea ! keep develop this project
i think it's a good idea too... i'll test it next week...
Any plans to support FlexMail sync? If you need, I can get the command FM uses to sync.
when i click start nothing happens.
Will the phone wake up automatically when someone is calling ?
chihliouma said:
Will the phone wake up automatically when someone is calling ?
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If the purpose of the app is to disable the radio, hence incoming calls, then I would imagine No - it won't ring.
This is a cool Idea!
great idea as i would defenenetly use for sms.... but it is not working on my kaiser.
Will watch for updates
Whats the difference between setting to "flight mode" when no need to be avail.?
this one is automatic and will check your mail after a specific time interval...
so that you don't need to remember to put your phone on flight mode and then back.
joel2009 said:
great idea as i would defenenetly use for sms.... but it is not working on my kaiser.
Will watch for updates
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i believe that wont happen, since sms uses radio.
this is for emails only.
correct me if im wrong OP!
It's not for emails only. SMS's and calls are the same thing. when you turn your radio back on you'll receive your messages. Emails have to be checked manually as they don't depend on the network, that's why he added the option to check emails when the radio's turned back on.
I clicked on start and nothing happened.
I have a Sprint Touch Diamond.
Make it a little a clear:
When radio off - How will incoming calls be received ?
SMS may be recd as and when I put my radio active.
parthabhatta said:
Make it a little a clear:
When radio off - How will incoming calls be received ?
SMS may be recd as and when I put my radio active.
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you won't get incomming calls. all this does is allow you to set intervals for the radio to be turned on so that you can download your emails and sms.
i think this is what the app does
1 it disables the radio to save your battery(will disable both messages and calls)
2 it will enable the radio for a short period and check for messages
3 after the checking is done it will turn off radio again
My Tilt runs 40 hours on a charge with Flexmail running with online IMAP on 2 folders and periodically syncing 4 others. With Flexmail off, I imagine it would run well over 100 hours.
Doesn't seem like battery life is a big deal to me.. If your battery is running over 3-4%/hr, it's because of a lot of calls and or data and I don't see this program helping much in that direction.
Hi
I was wondering if it is possible to set the send and receive schedule to work only during working hours. It is a bit of a pain as currently it is doing the send/receive every 15mins 24hours a day and the evening messages are more than likely junk.
If not then maybe there is a way to set a script to change the email download options and this can be set to run at the times required to turn send/receive on/off
Thanks
Sully
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sorry, not possible
I am currently looking at mortscript but not sure if I can do it with that. I am thinking that send/receive can be set to automatic or manual and this setting must be in the reg. If I can write a little script or app that can change this reg value at specific set times therefore swithing on/off email download.
Never done anything on PPC before but I will give it a try and report back.
Sully
If your using activesync for emails then it is possible.
Open Activesync, goto Schedule, Set sync for peak times as every xminutes or as items arrive, set of peak for manual.
Then adjust peak times to suit your work day.
Works great for me.
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sorry, not possible
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Not so fast! I use just the program hungabunga is looking for
http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/
It can be used to automaticly change the send/recieve shedule based on the day of the week and time of day, it also supports push email.
I use it to turn my email checking off at night automaticly so it doesn't disturb me and also preserves my battery life.
tabannis you are a star, thanks just what I needed
Sully
Anyone know of a way to get the hd2 to only check for emails during the day? it only gives options such as check every hour/4 hours etc, but not a time range.
As a result, it buzzes for emails received in the middle of the night. I want it to buzz for phone calls or text messages (could be emergencies), but not for emails which are usually trivial. So switching it off or silent is not an option
In the latest G-Profile there is an option to disallow all data connections, including emails. I have set up a night profile which has this option enabled so it does not download emails or update the weather and such. In the morning the night profile switches off automatically before my alarm goes off and so when I wake up the weather and emails are updated. Some other profile programs might have this feature also...
Either PhoneAlarm or Email Scheduler (http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/)
How did you manage to get updates during the night?
For me auto-updates work only when I turn screen on...
Bence said:
How did you manage to get updates during the night?
For me auto-updates work only when I turn screen on...
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same here: my phone does not update weather when in sleep mode: any solution?
UncleBeer said:
Either PhoneAlarm or Email Scheduler (http://www.gudensoft.com/emailscheduler/)
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Has anyone used the Email scheduler? it looks reasonable (and free), but I don't like installing stuff that I don't know for (pretty) sure will work. I've just had a 'conversation' about my data usage on Virgin UK - apparently there's a 25MB per day limit and I was at 19MB by 8:00pm, so a little nervous that I'm going to run up charges. Need to limit and/or monitor my data connection.
thegios said:
same here: my phone does not update weather when in sleep mode: any solution?
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Set windows to use the gps chip. Go to settings, menu, all settings, system, external gps and configure com ports in all the tabs. This will allow it to find your location. If you data connection is ending when in sleep mode it won't be able to update the forcast data. The fix for this seems to be either disable direct push and/or update the radio to 2.10.50.xx
All you need to do is go to activesync; there you can set peak and offpeak times; set offpeak to whatever hours (at night) that you want (for example 10pm-8am) and set it to not.
Just to be blunt as possible Activesync>Menu>Schedule> "Off Peak Times" set to Manual and then set your off peak hours