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How to turn the phone off REALLY quickly

I did post previously about this and I think I've stumbled onto a solution.
If you click on the ariel from the Today screen or anywhere else, it takes ages to switch off (show the X) BUT if you go over to the dialler screen (pess the phone button) and then click the ariel & turn off, it switches off in about 2 seconds !!!
That's what it does on my machine anyway - maybe others can confirm this behaviour.
Ravi

Didn't work for me
Just tried that, but it still took around 5 secs for the popup menu to appear. Once it's popped up once though, it seems to then be selectable quite quickly.
I guess the real solution is to get a hardware button to turn it on/off!
Lee.

I just tried it again and it takes just as long as it did before. Damn !!
I wish somebody would figure this out !!
Ravi

A workaround could be phone profiles, which are offered for example by Ultra Profiler 2.0 (http://www.mobilesolutions.ro/)
It offers the profile "Airplane", which switches off the phone immediately.
Unfortunately, it seems to be buggy. After switching between some profiles, it changes to a strange ring tone.

I also tried this, and it still takes ages
sorry any more tricks to try....
John

to turn it off quickly you could just throw it your hardest against the floor the harder it hits the floor the more faster the device will switch off.
but i wouldnt do this as it would be a waste of money :lol:

Funny you sould say that, as when it locks up or dose not do what i needed it to do i oftern think of using your super fast turn off mode
john

I think the reason for delays in switching off is that mobile phones send out a signal to the Providors transmitters to tell them its being switched off, so it needs to do that before it will turn itself off.

I believe the phone switches itself off the moment you open the sim door cover; there is that little microswitch there...

Powering down 8125

Instead of holding the power button for several seconds to shut down the 8125, is there a free program that does the same thing?
There are several programs that can lock, shut down, and soft reset the device. But it seems like the shut down process does not really shut down the device like holding down the power button. Can anyone explain this to me why is this?
Thanks

It is one of the many laws that govern the realm of the PDA that thou shall not shut down a PDA. The PDA function does not take up much of the battery. You can try shutting off the phone/GSM function.

Why would you want to turn your phone off ?

In the windows folder, there is a file called poweroff.exe. Create a link to it. That is what I use.
why? If you know you are not going to be using it and not taking any calls for a while.

maybe i can answer for jimmyhauser 8)
i am in university, and whenever im in class, i usually put my phone on the table (but i turn off the ringer << polite =P) anyways, a couple of times my professor asked me to TURN OFF the phone during a test. and he stood there waiting for me to turn off the phone. it took quite some time, unwind the headphone, take out the stylus, unlock the device wait 5 seconds while pressing the power button to turn it off..it was an akward moment (even though it doesnt sound like it) and thats happened a few times. Also wen i go to the hospital. i dont want my phone to make intereference with some guy's life saving device. so a quick power off is needed =P
and thanks for the link to the file ;-)

FYI, on intel based HTC devices, VJEschaton will also shut down devices to full power off using the -sleep mode. I don't think anyone other then me uses it though Very useful on WM2003 devices when you're not going to be giving them a daily top up of juice... prevents them from hardreseting themselves.
V

I turned off my 8125 last night and the unit will not boot up today... Can't even hard reset. I think, once i get the Cingular 225 ROM installed, i won't be turning it off again.

Touch HD, GPS turning off in sleep mode?

Hey guys, this has probably been answered before but I've had a look around... cant find a solution!
I ride a motorcycle and the satnav on the phone is absolutely superb, I'm using TomTom6, but unfortunately the problem I have is that I have to keep the phone in my pocket... which poses a problem as turning the phone into sleep mode or locking the phone turns the GPS chip off completely!
I can't really keep the phone on tomtom while in my pocket without locking it as touching the screen causes the tomtom to enter the menu and a whole series of settings get touched accidentally!
So is there a way to put the phone into sleep mode, by which i mean quickly pressing the button on the top to turn the screen off... but keep the gps on?
I've tried using HDTweak and AdvancedConfig but can't find the right settings if there are any
Any help would be appreciated!

ok ill be quick before you involke the wrath of moderators, they will harp on about the search and not to keep making new threads which is fairly justified since it makes a big mess here, but anyhow, since you asked, yee shall find..
psShutXP
that will do the trick for you, works a dream for me wondering around the mountains tracking my routes
hope it helps mate, just better remember the forum search next time hay!

my bad! I did have a search around but must have missed it, apologies for useless thread! lol
Cheers bud

Try this
Christov said:
Hey guys, this has probably been answered before but I've had a look around... cant find a solution!
I ride a motorcycle and the satnav on the phone is absolutely superb, I'm using TomTom6, but unfortunately the problem I have is that I have to keep the phone in my pocket... which poses a problem as turning the phone into sleep mode or locking the phone turns the GPS chip off completely!
I can't really keep the phone on tomtom while in my pocket without locking it as touching the screen causes the tomtom to enter the menu and a whole series of settings get touched accidentally!
So is there a way to put the phone into sleep mode, by which i mean quickly pressing the button on the top to turn the screen off... but keep the gps on?
I've tried using HDTweak and AdvancedConfig but can't find the right settings if there are any
Any help would be appreciated!
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also you could use another simple piece of soft ScreenOFF. it does what the title said one touch and screen is off so no accidental touches are made in pocket and no locking done...
here is link
http://www.appliedpda.com/downloads/download_list/11

By using either of these programs... do I need to go into my device's power settings and turn off sleep then?
I'm away to go on a Snowboarding holiday soon, and have a program for tracking my runs etc. I don't want it switching the GPS off and losing my tracks!!

Hey guys, just to let you all know I've now tried all of these programs and they all stop the GPS from working when theyre run... it's a real shame!
Anyone found anything that works?

Have been looking for something like this myself but as the GPS is quite a power hogging device, without external power your battery will drain pretty quickly.
Going a different route myself. Ordered a Suunto X10 and will download tracks afterwards.
Was looking at making a clear, waterproof dash mount box with USB power in the bottom. With a hinged (book-like) front you could drop the phone in on power and leave it enabled running GPS. Would also display incoming callers that way.

Farsquidge said:
Have been looking for something like this myself but as the GPS is quite a power hogging device, without external power your battery will drain pretty quickly.
Going a different route myself. Ordered a Suunto X10 and will download tracks afterwards.
Was looking at making a clear, waterproof dash mount box with USB power in the bottom. With a hinged (book-like) front you could drop the phone in on power and leave it enabled running GPS. Would also display incoming callers that way.
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neat idea, I was considering making a waterproof case for my motorcycle but that would involve a lot of cost and time. Two things I certainly lack!
Battery seems to be ok for me, I can do a 1.5 hour journey without totally draining the battery. As long as I take my charger with me I can charge at the other end.
I find this problem really bizarre, seems like a bit of a design flaw...

What about a tank bag?
I used to use a blueangel (XDAIIs) on my bike...
1. 3 part tank bag from ALDI 16.99 (With clear map bit at the top).
2. Battery to car ciggarette socket 2.50
3. Headphone extension cable Maplins 1.50
Power and in ear headphones for directions, ok looking at the TT itself whilst moving is not good, but thats what traffic lights are for
Since then I crashed my bike, bought a car and upgraded to the Blackstone.

install MobileMagic and on the Options tab tick GPS and "GPS while "power off".
Having the GPS running all the time does suck on the battery a bit, but I managed 6 hours on Dartmoor navigating with Memory-Map today (very nice it was too, thank you for asking).

been trying fiddling with mobilemagic all week, including the settings you suggested... it's not working The nice lady turns off as soon as I turn the screen off even if mobilemagic has the "GPS while power off" checkbox checked

Christov said:
been trying fiddling with mobilemagic all week, including the settings you suggested... it's not working The nice lady turns off as soon as I turn the screen off even if mobilemagic has the "GPS while power off" checkbox checked
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You are quite right, I hadn't tried it with TomTom.
It isn't a GPS problem tho', it's TomTom!
I tested it out with MemoryMap and a coupla other GPS logging programs, they had no problem with their GPS log when the screen is off. But TomTom suspends whilst the screen is off, even if the phone's GPS is still on.
I don't know how to persuade TomTom to do what you want, but it would prolly be worth asking in the TomTom thread (or at least giving this thread a more appropriate title).
One workaround (albeit a battery draining one) would be to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for"
Then lock the screen by holding the Phone Down key.
(I'll just pop out now to check if that works)
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Nop that's no good either... but it's definitely a TomTom issue not a GPS one
(even with the screen just locked instead of off)

A little searching has found you an answer(s) (I hope!),
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453287&highlight=tomtom+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367671&highlight=tomtom+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367671&highlight=tomtom+screen

gadgetuk437 said:
You are quite right, I hadn't tried it with TomTom.
It isn't a GPS problem tho', it's TomTom!
I tested it out with MemoryMap and a coupla other GPS logging programs, they had no problem with their GPS log when the screen is off. But TomTom suspends whilst the screen is off, even if the phone's GPS is still on.
I don't know how to persuade TomTom to do what you want, but it would prolly be worth asking in the TomTom thread (or at least giving this thread a more appropriate title).
One workaround (albeit a battery draining one) would be to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for"
Then lock the screen by holding the Phone Down key.
(I'll just pop out now to check if that works)
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Nop that's no good either... but it's definitely a TomTom issue not a GPS one
(even with the screen just locked instead of off)
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Ah, that explains why i can do it, memory map works fine with them, if its just tracking you need i would do as suggested above and force device to stay on but id also make sure to turn the backlight off all together, used to do that with an older device and it will easily last for 9 hours

cheers for all the help guys! I didn't click it could be a problem with tomtom itself, kind of should have realised at some point!
Gonna try Gyrator 2 tomoro while I'm in the car and can keep an eye on it. If that doesn't work, I might try MemoryMap and see if that works. Quite like tomtoms interface tho!
Will update after I've had a chance to play with the settings.
Once again thanks for all the help!

Christov said:
I might try MemoryMap and see if that works
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I wouldn't bother!
It's an ace bit of software.... for hiking, not biking!
It does OS maps, and it doesn't do any talking!

gadgetuk437 said:
I wouldn't bother!
It's an ace bit of software.... for hiking, not biking!
It does OS maps, and it doesn't do any talking!
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hmm.. might have to avoid that then. Any other GPS 'talky' satnav programs out there you're aware of?

Christov said:
Hey guys, this has probably been answered before but I've had a look around... cant find a solution!
I ride a motorcycle and the satnav on the phone is absolutely superb, I'm using TomTom6, but unfortunately the problem I have is that I have to keep the phone in my pocket... which poses a problem as turning the phone into sleep mode or locking the phone turns the GPS chip off completely!
I can't really keep the phone on tomtom while in my pocket without locking it as touching the screen causes the tomtom to enter the menu and a whole series of settings get touched accidentally!
So is there a way to put the phone into sleep mode, by which i mean quickly pressing the button on the top to turn the screen off... but keep the gps on?
I've tried using HDTweak and AdvancedConfig but can't find the right settings if there are any
Any help would be appreciated!
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It really depends which SatNav software you're using. TomTom wants to have the screen active to work. Finally I hooked up a female cigarette lighter plug to my motorcycle battery and plug in my phone using a Cig/USB adapter...no more battery drain!

I use NoniGpsPlot.
And I have a feature to turn screen off.
I've tested. The GPS continues to plot while the screen is off.

well it's FINALLY working!
Gyrator2 did the job, if I get it to lock when the stylus is in, the gps and tomtom continues to work with the screen locked.
One drawback to this is that the screen actually freezes so you can't *see* where you're going but of course this is no problem for me as I'm listening and not watching. Pulling the stylus out updates the screen immediately to where you are while running tomtom ofc.
So thanks for all the help guys, so happy to have this handy feature working properly! But yeah, if other people want to do the same perhaps try something else if you want to see where you're going as well as hear!

Screen timeout killing phone!

Recieved my HD yesterday, and this is the symptom of the issue:
When the phone reaches its screen timeout (whether its 30 secs or 10 mins) period it the phone turns off completely. It is not possible to then turn the phone back on using the power switch or any other way. The only way the phone can be turned back on is to take the battery out and put it back in.
Initially i thought maybe it was the battery and somehow it didnt have proper connection with the copper contacts. However if i turn off the screen timeout off completely then the phone stays on and doesnt turn off. So as long as the phone doesnt go into power save mode or screen timeout its fine and stays on. Its also not the power switch as the switch works fine other wise.
I rang HTC support, spoke to some clueless call centre lady who tried to tell me it might be a proximity issue. I dont think it is as i dont have any issues when making or receiving calls. The problem is for some reason screen timeout causing the phone to completely shut down. I have searched on a few forums and cant seem to find anyone else with this issue.........FML

Forgot to add, i have also done the following:
- Reset to factory default
- Checked for udpates (get a message saying my phone is up to date)
- Made sure phone sim cover and battery cover are properly secured
Nothing has worked so far

tk79 said:
Its also not the power switch as the switch works fine other wise.
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So the switch turns the phone off and on again, or just off?

switch turns phone on and off any other time but after screen lockout kicks in it doesnt do anything, i have to take the battery out to turn the phone back on.
In a normal scenario if i want to power the phone down and then power it back up again then it is fine
Hope that makes sense

It really sounds like a software issue.
Is your DHD branded or unlocked?
Maybe try install some of the custom roms from arround the forum.I use LeeDroid 1.2 and it works like a charm.
Go to "ROM Development" thread. There are a few HOW-TOs on the top. There is always a risk u mess things up but it's small and from how it sounds, u don't have much of a choice anyway good luck

Its a branded "Orange" phone from the UK. I think im just going to return it and get a replacement and if i still have issues then ill try your suggestion thanks. Really disappointing, Desire HD seems to be riddled with issues.

[Q] WP7 Screen turns on in pocket + not 100% charge

I only have two issues so far with WP7. Everytime I get a text message, the screen turns on. When its in my pocket and i get one, my pocket bumps the screen and keeps calling people, sending random texts and more. Which 1, annoys people and 2, kills the battery even faster than it already does.
The other issue is the battery not charging to 100%. It gets to maybe 90 (has a sliver of the bar gone) after charging it overnight.
Also, I have Location Services turned off and 3G off most of the time and only text a bit throughout the day. When I get home from work the battery has hit maybe 10 or 15%. Is this normal?
Any fixes at least for the screen on issue would be very much appreciated.

I'm having the same issues with the screen turning on whenever an SMS is received. I'm hoping there is a fix out there, or that the latest magldr will fix it.

I'm confused, whats wrong with the screen turning on when an SMS is received? Doesn't it still show the lock screen, requiring a slide up to unlock the device? My screen turns on when I get a new text but turns off after 10 seconds roughly.

uberamd said:
I'm confused, whats wrong with the screen turning on when an SMS is received? Doesn't it still show the lock screen, requiring a slide up to unlock the device? My screen turns on when I get a new text but turns off after 10 seconds roughly.
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The problem is, it's in my pocket. If the screen comes on then, my pocket is going to be hitting the screen which will eventually unlock it and start messing with everything. All I want is a sound notification, there is no need for the screen to come on for a text message. Phone call yes, but not text.

Sorry for bumping something from months ago, but the screen on issue is still around with the NoDo rom. Am I the only one concerned about this?

Maybe you set a code (0000, 7889...). I dont know any other smartphone, which displays a new message etc. NOT!
Regards and have a nice evening
Oliver

Yeah, the funny thing is that about two days ago my HD2 unlocked in my pocket, and upload some random picture on Facebook, next picture in line was my girlfriend naked - she would beat the bejesus out of me, lucky me...

Why don't you just set a one digit password like 2 or 3 to prevent it from unlocking and u can still unlock it fast

empmdk said:
The problem is, it's in my pocket. If the screen comes on then, my pocket is going to be hitting the screen which will eventually unlock it and start messing with everything. All I want is a sound notification, there is no need for the screen to come on for a text message. Phone call yes, but not text.
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Seriously, you have a donate to me sign for yourself? For what might I ask????
What are you doing with your phone in your pocket that it would unlock your phone? (Don't even want to know...eek!)
And why don't you carry your phone in a holster like most people? That way...no "accidental" unlocking in your pocket. Problem solved.
Finally...have you tested if an actual official WP7 phone does or does not have the same problem that pocket carriers seem to have?
Stop reposting old news and go buy yourself a holster.

what on earth is your problem? can you not say anything nice to people?
Well i dont use a holster and i dont know anyone that does either, but it wouldnt help the issue of the phone turning on when you get an SMS message, i suppose it would help with pushing random buttons, but then you wouldnt catch me dead wearing one, you'd look a bit of a gimp where i come from
ive sent all manor of rubbish back to people that have text me, which is why i use the password locked screen and 30 sec turn off.
The chances of that getting typed in by accident is very unlikely

I sometimes get the sound of a picture being taken with the phone in my pocket, with the result that my camera roll has a lot of black, out of focus shots in it.
This is due to the left hand hard key being depressed for a few seconds. It may be that once on, the phone can then navigate to your camera roll and then send mms etc all by being jiggled in the pocket. Dont know if this feature can be turned off, and cant test at the moment

I sort of like the screen password solution. But I a sure it will get annoying in no time.
To repeat what hjhjhj said, but in a nicer fashion, get a holster (yuck).

hjhjhj said:
Seriously, you have a donate to me sign for yourself? For what might I ask????
What are you doing with your phone in your pocket that it would unlock your phone? (Don't even want to know...eek!)
And why don't you carry your phone in a holster like most people? That way...no "accidental" unlocking in your pocket. Problem solved.
Finally...have you tested if an actual official WP7 phone does or does not have the same problem that pocket carriers seem to have?
Stop reposting old news and go buy yourself a holster.
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I have a donate thing just cause it's available to me in my profile settings. You or anyone else shouldn't worry about things that have NOTHING to do with the topic at hand.
What am I doing? I am walking, or I happen to go out running.
I will never get a holster, that is what my pocket is for. I've known two people who have used one and either the phone fell out of the holster or the holster fell off them and destroyed the phone after many of those drops. Before you ask, yes it was made for the phones they were using...
I haven't tested an actual WP7 phone cause I don't have one and don't know anyone who has one.
This was just a simple question that I asked, no need to go on about other things. I figured there would be something in the registry to change it so it does not turn on.

Read few posts here, i see 2 problems mentioned:
1) battery drain
2) camera button that wakes phone
So, i offer you to:
2)If you have nodo/prenodo you can change camera button(green call button) via software to open up not camera, to open call log or any other stuff, and it probably wouldn't work when screen isn't on.
If you don't wanna use any xaps - you can install green mango(i offer blacksides rom) and via settings u can disable camera app to launch from lockscreen.
1)About battery drain:
On prenodo/nodo i had similar battery drain as some1 mentioned, with different roms i've got pretty same result, and i was charging phone every day, and usually everytime when i could - often in evening being not at home phone just turned off because of 12h non charging!
Now: i have blacksides green mango and my experience is:
1) after rom flash and first full charge(over usb cable to pc) i was calling, texting, surfing internet via wifi like 2h, playing games like ~1,5h total, used gps like half hour, don't remember everything exactly what i did, but it was pretty hard usage of phone and battery lasted ~2days!
2) Now i'm on 2nd full charge and currently i'm ill and always near my pc, so i use my phone only for sms+calls, and currently my "battery saver"(new mango function) shows:
Remaining battery life: 52%
Time since last charge: 2days 8 hours
So overall my phone battery lasts ~3-4times better on mango than on nodo/prenodo, so i recommend you to use green mango, anyway there are problems with "sim error" sometimes(usually when you use wifi, when you don't - i had ~3days no sim errors, so that's pretty fine)
So these were my thoughts about your problems, thanx

hjhjhj said:
And why don't you carry your phone in a holster like most people?
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Stop reposting old news and go buy yourself a holster.
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Most people on what planet? I put a case on my phone and I carry it in my pocket. My wife carries her phone in a purse. I refuse to use a holster or wear a utility belt like freaking Batman.

I too have a problem with pockets and wp7, but all I can really do is password protect it.
As for the battery not charging completely, I have a tiny fix for that. I too noticed my battery would not charge completely, but it seemed to be an issue with WP7 not reading the battery correctly. It was permanently stuck at 88%. Upon restarting the phone, and reinserting the cable, it was able to charge again til 100%. I'm not sure if that's a problem with Green Mango or what, but I was able to get mine to charge completely that way.
As for battery drain, even with the camera trick and barely any usage, my battery still ends up in the low 15% by the end of the night. I think its just an issue with the ROM that will hopefully get fixed in the RTM release.

Mango RTM still has these problems
Mango RTM still has these problems.
When inside pocket it can be turned on accidentally(camera button or power button) or by reminders, alarms or SMS. So it is very likely that a WP7 will wake up inside the pocket.
But that's not the real problem, the real problem is that the auto sleep timeout (30 secs, 1 min or whatever) is reset every time the lockscreen is touched. Now, can you imagine with which frequency the screen is rubbed inside a pocket? If you are walking or running it could be just every second. The result? Phone keeps on for a long period of time, draining battery and warming up.
Sometimes you don't notice it because luckily you freezed and you gave time for the timeout to happen, but it could have been ON for hours. You notice that when you take it out for use and see the battery meter and think why the heck the phone drains so much battery. And it's just that: WP7 phones have insomnia.
Then comes a second problem, that rubbing inside the pocket can also unlock the phone because the lockscreen will slide up with a very short swipe (2cms). Once unlocked the touch party begins, a lot of apps will be opened, emails written, calls answered/rejected, etc, etc. One good option should be the ability for the user to setup how long to swipe to trigger the unlock.
Some people will enable PIN protection or get a hard case to prevent this. But not the idea. Many use the phone just naked, and if a phone has a lockscreen then it must meet its purpose, it should not be just a screensaver, it must be touchsaver as well.
We developed PocketShield back in the WM6 era, and users loved it mainly because it solved these kind of problems.
I think battery life is one of the most important aspects on mobiles, and the big cons on peoples mouth about phones is always battery life. So hope Microsoft puts a big effort so resolve this on the next update.

pocket txting, dialing, and killing what is already a bad batt life
holsters are for uptight business types or people who want to look important. as i too am NOT batman i opt out of the utility belt!
there were many LITTLE things that WP7 lacked and were easily overlooked! my phones random uploads, txts, random settings changes, useless battery drain and the like from within my pocket were not.
yes you can PW protect but if the phone still recieves stimuli in pocket, even with a PW, you still have the useless battery drain. with the way these roms chomp up the battery to begin with its hard to overlook!
this issue was the determining factor of me jumping back on the Android bandwagon and leaving the little appreciated WP7 ( LOVED THIS OS TOO!!! )
has anyone redesigned a better/different lock screen? perhaps found the registry value to disable the screen waking on notifications? ANYTHING would be great!
thanks!!!