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How to turn the phone off REALLY quickly

I did post previously about this and I think I've stumbled onto a solution.
If you click on the ariel from the Today screen or anywhere else, it takes ages to switch off (show the X) BUT if you go over to the dialler screen (pess the phone button) and then click the ariel & turn off, it switches off in about 2 seconds !!!
That's what it does on my machine anyway - maybe others can confirm this behaviour.
Ravi

Didn't work for me
Just tried that, but it still took around 5 secs for the popup menu to appear. Once it's popped up once though, it seems to then be selectable quite quickly.
I guess the real solution is to get a hardware button to turn it on/off!
Lee.

I just tried it again and it takes just as long as it did before. Damn !!
I wish somebody would figure this out !!
Ravi

A workaround could be phone profiles, which are offered for example by Ultra Profiler 2.0 (http://www.mobilesolutions.ro/)
It offers the profile "Airplane", which switches off the phone immediately.
Unfortunately, it seems to be buggy. After switching between some profiles, it changes to a strange ring tone.

I also tried this, and it still takes ages
sorry any more tricks to try....
John

to turn it off quickly you could just throw it your hardest against the floor the harder it hits the floor the more faster the device will switch off.
but i wouldnt do this as it would be a waste of money :lol:

Funny you sould say that, as when it locks up or dose not do what i needed it to do i oftern think of using your super fast turn off mode
john

I think the reason for delays in switching off is that mobile phones send out a signal to the Providors transmitters to tell them its being switched off, so it needs to do that before it will turn itself off.

I believe the phone switches itself off the moment you open the sim door cover; there is that little microswitch there...

Im going mad with this

I have been sorting out my exec. radio rom and all that.
now I can not turn off my exec. get it to standby but not fully switch off.
I have looked on here and cannot find anything to help.
any ideas ?
tried holding down the power button ect. turning everything off in the wifi window thing.

Carll said:
I have been sorting out my exec. radio rom and all that.
now I can not turn off my exec. get it to standby but not fully switch off.
I have looked on here and cannot find anything to help.
any ideas ?
tried holding down the power button ect. turning everything off in the wifi window thing.
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Remove the battery. Kidding aside, I don't think it is possible. The most I can do to limit the battery drain is to turn off all radios (GSM, WIFI, BT) then press the off/on switch.
I don't believe there is a way to FULLY turn it off short of removing the battery.

thanks for the reply.
you must be able to switch it off. I work with a lot of large electro magnets and need to be able to power down completely to aviod screwing it up in the fields

you cannot turn it off completely! only battery removal will do that,
its not like the wizard where you can press and hold the power button and do a shutdown,
is flight mode not enough? just where you turn the cellular parts off?

Oh well Bat out it is.
I have to walk though a strong magentic field to get to my office.
Can not wear a watch as it will get knackered.
One of the lads at work got a new laptop. Put it into Stand by walked it though the field and it was shagged.
The magents we use are massive. would pick up a car with no problem at all.

Oh well Bat out it is.
I have to walk though a strong magentic field to get to my office.
Can not wear a watch as it will get knackered.
One of the lads at work got a new laptop. Put it into Stand by walked it though the field and it was shagged.
The magents we use are massive. would pick up a car with no problem at all.

Carnivor said:
is flight mode not enough? just where you turn the cellular parts off?
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dont think so... just think about the following situation: You are 12 hours far away from.... a charger/home/USB port.. whatever, and the battery is running out. what do you do?
one solution would be to turn if off for a while... if possible.!

Yeah, its one really strange design move to not include an off button. I could never figure this one out myself. I assume it would be possible to add this, but it would require some hardware tweaking. Short of the huge car picking up magnet problem though, it probably isnt too big a deal (at least for me, the SD card stopping working at 5% power or whatever is much worse!)

Power button not always working.

This JasJar I have Always have problem waking up after period of inactivity. If I had it powered off for too long, I cannot bring it back to life with any hardware button, except the reset. Usually I can still see the green light flashing indicating the phone in on and working. But I had also tried to call it, but it won't ring. As a PDA the problem wouldn't bother me too much, but as a Smartphone it mean I might have missed a few important calls
the only solution i have now is i go to settings, power, advanced and i disable the "turn off device if not use for" option
it works all the time with me but it eats the battery, specially if i am connecting my BT headset
Please if anyone has a solution let me know
thanks

i forgot to say that it happens even if i take the SIM card out of the device, so i do not think it is a SIM card issue
i do not have and SD cards

Any Help?

it happens randomly with no specific reason, but I tend to believe it's due to a third party s/w. If you made a hard reset and kept using the device with only the standard applications, the device will be very stable except the bluetooth issues.

The issue of the PPC power button, whatever a soft one or a hard one, has been consistently existed since I bought my first PPC with PPC2000. I am so disappointed that it is exactly the same case after some 6 years...
It is usually due to some imcompatibility between the system and some today-enhancing add-ons, which seem necessary for us but sometimes however causing problems like a deep snooze...

thanks for ur answers, actually i do not think it is related to 3rd party applications on today screen plugins, since i already had reflashed my device and i am running now with no applications installed, i am not sure what Phono can do for me i will try to contact them today and see if i can get a replacement or what?
yet any other ideas will be really appreciated

Same problem in my device can any one help me Please

Hey, I had this problem too...
The only way I stopped my PDA from freezing like this was to disable the auto power off feature in Settings/System/Power and keep the backlight turned on (but lower without it plugged in) Settings/System/Backlight.
This helps with other bits too, makes the delay in the unit from ringing less and connection time faster.
Regards.
Dave.

jmdrizen said:
Hey, I had this problem too...
The only way I stopped my PDA from freezing like this was to disable the auto power off feature in Settings/System/Power and keep the backlight turned on (but lower without it plugged in) Settings/System/Backlight.
This helps with other bits too, makes the delay in the unit from ringing less and connection time faster.
Regards.
Dave.
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Thanks dear .. I will tray it I hope it will fix this problem.

jmdrizen said:
Hey, I had this problem too...
The only way I stopped my PDA from freezing like this was to disable the auto power off feature in Settings/System/Power and keep the backlight turned on (but lower without it plugged in) Settings/System/Backlight.
This helps with other bits too, makes the delay in the unit from ringing less and connection time faster.
Regards.
Dave.
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Did any experts here got a solution to this? I really don't know why it happened.. I am using MDA from T-Mobile..

still no solution !!
a small update here, i've noticed that this problem does not happen if i am connecting my universal to the power charger, it only happenes if it works on battery, maybe there is sensor or so needs to be replaced ..!!
i am wondering, is it a hardware problem?
do i have to replace my universal ?? or maybe there is something to do with the software or bootloader?

SomeOneCares said:
still no solution !!
a small update here, i've noticed that this problem does not happen if i am connecting my universal to the power charger, it only happenes if it works on battery, maybe there is sensor or so needs to be replaced ..!!
i am wondering, is it a hardware problem?
do i have to replace my universal ?? or maybe there is something to do with the software or bootloader?
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Um.. Today i tried to "tick off" the battery off option under the "System" page.. it works fine for the entire day.. And battery eats up is just normal. Anyway.. I think it's related to some software conflict of resources but not hardware.. um.. at least, this is one of the solution!

UP

SomeOneCares said:
still no solution !!
a small update here, i've noticed that this problem does not happen if i am connecting my universal to the power charger, it only happenes if it works on battery, maybe there is sensor or so needs to be replaced ..!!
i am wondering, is it a hardware problem?
do i have to replace my universal ?? or maybe there is something to do with the software or bootloader?
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any solution

Wizard Users more than 3-4 months????

I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:

Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?

i'm using the regular wi5 lock button at the today screen but there are some programs that allows you to choose a hard button and use it as a lock
but im looking for an autolock

Thomas1234 said:
Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?
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Well, since its going into your pocket and you won't need the screen, can't you just hit the power button once to make it go into standby mode. Two benefits, you save battery, and lock the phone (only a press of the power key unlocks it again). In standby, you will still receive phone calls and get email (if its set to poll every XX mnutes, dunno about push email). The only downside to using the power button as a keylock is if you're using the wizard as mp3 player or something becuase standby causes the app to stop.
There's a cab out there that allows you to map the key lock to a button, I forgot what thread its in. I've got keylock mapped to the voice record button (hold). It works well.

Thanks Edyhan, I thought that this Lock is to lock the PPC and give it a password so that nobody can use it without knowing the Password well I am very new with this Pocket PCs, I am still figuring out the beauty.
KINetics, thanks for your reply, I know about the Power button, but it can b pushed - accidently - too then your PPC gonna do some jobs while it is in your Pocket, this is why Locking the buttons is the best solution.
But I really don't need any other apps just to lock the keys, as long as there is a Lock already in the WM5.
I wish the Wizard owners answer the main question of the Thread Starter

Edyhan said:
I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:
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I got the tmo mda the day it was available in the US and I like it a lot more now than when I got it. I can't say my keyboard has come loose but it does seem to close with less than a snap now and then. Still, it seems to work fine, as does the phone, so I'm not concerned.
The custom 2.17 rom available on this site seems to work wonders for battery life. When using the stock tmo rom, battery life was a couple days. With the 2.17 rom, it takes 3 days to hit 50%. Your mileage may vary, of course, but it added a couple extra days for me. I've since gotten a battery that's about twice as large (needs a custom backplate for the phone) and it seems to last forever but I haven't measured the time.
Finally, I agree with the above. I hit the power button before putting it in my pocket and it's never once dialed on it's own. I also discovered the secret of hitting the power button after I call or answer the phone. That prevents random screen frenzy from your face as you talk.
I had a Blue Angel phone before the mda and I really liked that phone a lot. It had a larger screen and was much faster but...the mda had WM5 and the BA was 2003SE. Eventually I learned that there's a different "rhythm" to using the mda and once I found it, I stopped overclocking and now I think it's an awesome phone.

For locking the Wizard I normally use a combination of both lock and standby, ty hat way if the power button does get pressed in pocket (which has happened on a couple of occasion) the screen comes on but the pad is still locked.
I've owned mine since January and have been more than happy with it, sure its bigger than my old Orange C500 but it does way more too! only got around to hard reset it the other day to wipe off the T Mobile due to having so much installed on it, tis faster now tho. Overall a great phone, even my stylis still stays in tho it doesn't extend when u pull it out anymore.

iolite wakes up when I put it into the case

hi everybody!
I'm having problem. Iolite wakes up when I put it into the case with magnet. i have same problem twhen putting into the auto holder but now it's more serous. Anybody knows how to deactivate such wake up?

I am suspecting some service or driver, but can't tell you now, which one it is, because I haven't time to play with it. Maybe after weekend.

Hi!
So nobody knows how to get rid of that backlight auto turning on?

what do you see when it wakes up? the navpanel?

Baga12: Which part of my previous answer did you not understand? That waking up is because of small sensors on Iolite's back. Primarily, they are there to react to "navi-active" phoneholder. Every time, when magnetic field goes near them, Naviservice is triggered and NaviPanel starts. You can disable Naviservice, but Iolite will still wake up. Therefore, there must be some other service or driver responsible for this. And playing and messing with services and drivers is not an easy stuff, so please be little bit patient.

Mauvan said:
what do you see when it wakes up? the navpanel?
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It just wakes up and shows what was before (today screen). Before I disabled the navipanel... now the backlight just turns on.

torrentonly said:
Baga12: Which part of my previous answer did you not understand? That waking up is because of small sensors on Iolite's back. Primarily, they are there to react to "navi-active" phoneholder. Every time, when magnetic field goes near them, Naviservice is triggered and NaviPanel starts. You can disable Naviservice, but Iolite will still wake up. Therefore, there must be some other service or driver responsible for this. And playing and messing with services and drivers is not an easy stuff, so please be little bit patient.
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I also think there's a way through the services or drivers or register tweaks... Thanks, torrentonly, I'll be patient. Hope you'll find time.

Maybe it is easier (and safer) to get another case without magnet?

Madana said:
Maybe it is easier (and safer) to get another case without magnet?
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Good idea.. but I've bought it from ebay and waited for 4 weeks... don't want to change it

I finally solved the problem! I just used instructions in the thread "HowTo - Customize Hardware buttons" and it helped. Thank you all for your attention!