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Im going mad with this

I have been sorting out my exec. radio rom and all that.
now I can not turn off my exec. get it to standby but not fully switch off.
I have looked on here and cannot find anything to help.
any ideas ?
tried holding down the power button ect. turning everything off in the wifi window thing.

Carll said:
I have been sorting out my exec. radio rom and all that.
now I can not turn off my exec. get it to standby but not fully switch off.
I have looked on here and cannot find anything to help.
any ideas ?
tried holding down the power button ect. turning everything off in the wifi window thing.
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Remove the battery. Kidding aside, I don't think it is possible. The most I can do to limit the battery drain is to turn off all radios (GSM, WIFI, BT) then press the off/on switch.
I don't believe there is a way to FULLY turn it off short of removing the battery.

thanks for the reply.
you must be able to switch it off. I work with a lot of large electro magnets and need to be able to power down completely to aviod screwing it up in the fields

you cannot turn it off completely! only battery removal will do that,
its not like the wizard where you can press and hold the power button and do a shutdown,
is flight mode not enough? just where you turn the cellular parts off?

Oh well Bat out it is.
I have to walk though a strong magentic field to get to my office.
Can not wear a watch as it will get knackered.
One of the lads at work got a new laptop. Put it into Stand by walked it though the field and it was shagged.
The magents we use are massive. would pick up a car with no problem at all.

Oh well Bat out it is.
I have to walk though a strong magentic field to get to my office.
Can not wear a watch as it will get knackered.
One of the lads at work got a new laptop. Put it into Stand by walked it though the field and it was shagged.
The magents we use are massive. would pick up a car with no problem at all.

Carnivor said:
is flight mode not enough? just where you turn the cellular parts off?
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dont think so... just think about the following situation: You are 12 hours far away from.... a charger/home/USB port.. whatever, and the battery is running out. what do you do?
one solution would be to turn if off for a while... if possible.!

Yeah, its one really strange design move to not include an off button. I could never figure this one out myself. I assume it would be possible to add this, but it would require some hardware tweaking. Short of the huge car picking up magnet problem though, it probably isnt too big a deal (at least for me, the SD card stopping working at 5% power or whatever is much worse!)

Wizard Users more than 3-4 months????

I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:

Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?

i'm using the regular wi5 lock button at the today screen but there are some programs that allows you to choose a hard button and use it as a lock
but im looking for an autolock

Thomas1234 said:
Hi Mate,
I have it just for 3 days now , but I wanted to ask you, how can I lock the keypad when I put it in my pocket to avoid dialing by itself by accident ?
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Well, since its going into your pocket and you won't need the screen, can't you just hit the power button once to make it go into standby mode. Two benefits, you save battery, and lock the phone (only a press of the power key unlocks it again). In standby, you will still receive phone calls and get email (if its set to poll every XX mnutes, dunno about push email). The only downside to using the power button as a keylock is if you're using the wizard as mp3 player or something becuase standby causes the app to stop.
There's a cab out there that allows you to map the key lock to a button, I forgot what thread its in. I've got keylock mapped to the voice record button (hold). It works well.

Thanks Edyhan, I thought that this Lock is to lock the PPC and give it a password so that nobody can use it without knowing the Password well I am very new with this Pocket PCs, I am still figuring out the beauty.
KINetics, thanks for your reply, I know about the Power button, but it can b pushed - accidently - too then your PPC gonna do some jobs while it is in your Pocket, this is why Locking the buttons is the best solution.
But I really don't need any other apps just to lock the keys, as long as there is a Lock already in the WM5.
I wish the Wizard owners answer the main question of the Thread Starter

Edyhan said:
I saw a thread about the a guy changed his wizard after using it for 5 months
What do u think mates?Is this a phone that just seems good when you firs got it?
My review about this phone is(cingular 8125)I've been using it for a month now.
keyboard got a lit' bit loose..
Poor battery life.(1day at most)
and it keeps dialing the last call while in my pocket in case i forgot the lock itlol(btw is there any autolock program for wizard)
Cheers :lol:
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I got the tmo mda the day it was available in the US and I like it a lot more now than when I got it. I can't say my keyboard has come loose but it does seem to close with less than a snap now and then. Still, it seems to work fine, as does the phone, so I'm not concerned.
The custom 2.17 rom available on this site seems to work wonders for battery life. When using the stock tmo rom, battery life was a couple days. With the 2.17 rom, it takes 3 days to hit 50%. Your mileage may vary, of course, but it added a couple extra days for me. I've since gotten a battery that's about twice as large (needs a custom backplate for the phone) and it seems to last forever but I haven't measured the time.
Finally, I agree with the above. I hit the power button before putting it in my pocket and it's never once dialed on it's own. I also discovered the secret of hitting the power button after I call or answer the phone. That prevents random screen frenzy from your face as you talk.
I had a Blue Angel phone before the mda and I really liked that phone a lot. It had a larger screen and was much faster but...the mda had WM5 and the BA was 2003SE. Eventually I learned that there's a different "rhythm" to using the mda and once I found it, I stopped overclocking and now I think it's an awesome phone.

For locking the Wizard I normally use a combination of both lock and standby, ty hat way if the power button does get pressed in pocket (which has happened on a couple of occasion) the screen comes on but the pad is still locked.
I've owned mine since January and have been more than happy with it, sure its bigger than my old Orange C500 but it does way more too! only got around to hard reset it the other day to wipe off the T Mobile due to having so much installed on it, tis faster now tho. Overall a great phone, even my stylis still stays in tho it doesn't extend when u pull it out anymore.

Powering down 8125

Instead of holding the power button for several seconds to shut down the 8125, is there a free program that does the same thing?
There are several programs that can lock, shut down, and soft reset the device. But it seems like the shut down process does not really shut down the device like holding down the power button. Can anyone explain this to me why is this?
Thanks

It is one of the many laws that govern the realm of the PDA that thou shall not shut down a PDA. The PDA function does not take up much of the battery. You can try shutting off the phone/GSM function.

Why would you want to turn your phone off ?

In the windows folder, there is a file called poweroff.exe. Create a link to it. That is what I use.
why? If you know you are not going to be using it and not taking any calls for a while.

maybe i can answer for jimmyhauser 8)
i am in university, and whenever im in class, i usually put my phone on the table (but i turn off the ringer << polite =P) anyways, a couple of times my professor asked me to TURN OFF the phone during a test. and he stood there waiting for me to turn off the phone. it took quite some time, unwind the headphone, take out the stylus, unlock the device wait 5 seconds while pressing the power button to turn it off..it was an akward moment (even though it doesnt sound like it) and thats happened a few times. Also wen i go to the hospital. i dont want my phone to make intereference with some guy's life saving device. so a quick power off is needed =P
and thanks for the link to the file ;-)

FYI, on intel based HTC devices, VJEschaton will also shut down devices to full power off using the -sleep mode. I don't think anyone other then me uses it though Very useful on WM2003 devices when you're not going to be giving them a daily top up of juice... prevents them from hardreseting themselves.
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I turned off my 8125 last night and the unit will not boot up today... Can't even hard reset. I think, once i get the Cingular 225 ROM installed, i won't be turning it off again.

Touch HD, GPS turning off in sleep mode?

Hey guys, this has probably been answered before but I've had a look around... cant find a solution!
I ride a motorcycle and the satnav on the phone is absolutely superb, I'm using TomTom6, but unfortunately the problem I have is that I have to keep the phone in my pocket... which poses a problem as turning the phone into sleep mode or locking the phone turns the GPS chip off completely!
I can't really keep the phone on tomtom while in my pocket without locking it as touching the screen causes the tomtom to enter the menu and a whole series of settings get touched accidentally!
So is there a way to put the phone into sleep mode, by which i mean quickly pressing the button on the top to turn the screen off... but keep the gps on?
I've tried using HDTweak and AdvancedConfig but can't find the right settings if there are any
Any help would be appreciated!

ok ill be quick before you involke the wrath of moderators, they will harp on about the search and not to keep making new threads which is fairly justified since it makes a big mess here, but anyhow, since you asked, yee shall find..
psShutXP
that will do the trick for you, works a dream for me wondering around the mountains tracking my routes
hope it helps mate, just better remember the forum search next time hay!

my bad! I did have a search around but must have missed it, apologies for useless thread! lol
Cheers bud

Try this
Christov said:
Hey guys, this has probably been answered before but I've had a look around... cant find a solution!
I ride a motorcycle and the satnav on the phone is absolutely superb, I'm using TomTom6, but unfortunately the problem I have is that I have to keep the phone in my pocket... which poses a problem as turning the phone into sleep mode or locking the phone turns the GPS chip off completely!
I can't really keep the phone on tomtom while in my pocket without locking it as touching the screen causes the tomtom to enter the menu and a whole series of settings get touched accidentally!
So is there a way to put the phone into sleep mode, by which i mean quickly pressing the button on the top to turn the screen off... but keep the gps on?
I've tried using HDTweak and AdvancedConfig but can't find the right settings if there are any
Any help would be appreciated!
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also you could use another simple piece of soft ScreenOFF. it does what the title said one touch and screen is off so no accidental touches are made in pocket and no locking done...
here is link
http://www.appliedpda.com/downloads/download_list/11

By using either of these programs... do I need to go into my device's power settings and turn off sleep then?
I'm away to go on a Snowboarding holiday soon, and have a program for tracking my runs etc. I don't want it switching the GPS off and losing my tracks!!

Hey guys, just to let you all know I've now tried all of these programs and they all stop the GPS from working when theyre run... it's a real shame!
Anyone found anything that works?

Have been looking for something like this myself but as the GPS is quite a power hogging device, without external power your battery will drain pretty quickly.
Going a different route myself. Ordered a Suunto X10 and will download tracks afterwards.
Was looking at making a clear, waterproof dash mount box with USB power in the bottom. With a hinged (book-like) front you could drop the phone in on power and leave it enabled running GPS. Would also display incoming callers that way.

Farsquidge said:
Have been looking for something like this myself but as the GPS is quite a power hogging device, without external power your battery will drain pretty quickly.
Going a different route myself. Ordered a Suunto X10 and will download tracks afterwards.
Was looking at making a clear, waterproof dash mount box with USB power in the bottom. With a hinged (book-like) front you could drop the phone in on power and leave it enabled running GPS. Would also display incoming callers that way.
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neat idea, I was considering making a waterproof case for my motorcycle but that would involve a lot of cost and time. Two things I certainly lack!
Battery seems to be ok for me, I can do a 1.5 hour journey without totally draining the battery. As long as I take my charger with me I can charge at the other end.
I find this problem really bizarre, seems like a bit of a design flaw...

What about a tank bag?
I used to use a blueangel (XDAIIs) on my bike...
1. 3 part tank bag from ALDI 16.99 (With clear map bit at the top).
2. Battery to car ciggarette socket 2.50
3. Headphone extension cable Maplins 1.50
Power and in ear headphones for directions, ok looking at the TT itself whilst moving is not good, but thats what traffic lights are for
Since then I crashed my bike, bought a car and upgraded to the Blackstone.

install MobileMagic and on the Options tab tick GPS and "GPS while "power off".
Having the GPS running all the time does suck on the battery a bit, but I managed 6 hours on Dartmoor navigating with Memory-Map today (very nice it was too, thank you for asking).

been trying fiddling with mobilemagic all week, including the settings you suggested... it's not working The nice lady turns off as soon as I turn the screen off even if mobilemagic has the "GPS while power off" checkbox checked

Christov said:
been trying fiddling with mobilemagic all week, including the settings you suggested... it's not working The nice lady turns off as soon as I turn the screen off even if mobilemagic has the "GPS while power off" checkbox checked
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You are quite right, I hadn't tried it with TomTom.
It isn't a GPS problem tho', it's TomTom!
I tested it out with MemoryMap and a coupla other GPS logging programs, they had no problem with their GPS log when the screen is off. But TomTom suspends whilst the screen is off, even if the phone's GPS is still on.
I don't know how to persuade TomTom to do what you want, but it would prolly be worth asking in the TomTom thread (or at least giving this thread a more appropriate title).
One workaround (albeit a battery draining one) would be to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for"
Then lock the screen by holding the Phone Down key.
(I'll just pop out now to check if that works)
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Nop that's no good either... but it's definitely a TomTom issue not a GPS one
(even with the screen just locked instead of off)

A little searching has found you an answer(s) (I hope!),
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=453287&highlight=tomtom+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367671&highlight=tomtom+screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367671&highlight=tomtom+screen

gadgetuk437 said:
You are quite right, I hadn't tried it with TomTom.
It isn't a GPS problem tho', it's TomTom!
I tested it out with MemoryMap and a coupla other GPS logging programs, they had no problem with their GPS log when the screen is off. But TomTom suspends whilst the screen is off, even if the phone's GPS is still on.
I don't know how to persuade TomTom to do what you want, but it would prolly be worth asking in the TomTom thread (or at least giving this thread a more appropriate title).
One workaround (albeit a battery draining one) would be to go to Start-Settings-System-Power-Advanced and untick the option, "Turn off device if not used for"
Then lock the screen by holding the Phone Down key.
(I'll just pop out now to check if that works)
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Nop that's no good either... but it's definitely a TomTom issue not a GPS one
(even with the screen just locked instead of off)
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Ah, that explains why i can do it, memory map works fine with them, if its just tracking you need i would do as suggested above and force device to stay on but id also make sure to turn the backlight off all together, used to do that with an older device and it will easily last for 9 hours

cheers for all the help guys! I didn't click it could be a problem with tomtom itself, kind of should have realised at some point!
Gonna try Gyrator 2 tomoro while I'm in the car and can keep an eye on it. If that doesn't work, I might try MemoryMap and see if that works. Quite like tomtoms interface tho!
Will update after I've had a chance to play with the settings.
Once again thanks for all the help!

Christov said:
I might try MemoryMap and see if that works
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I wouldn't bother!
It's an ace bit of software.... for hiking, not biking!
It does OS maps, and it doesn't do any talking!

gadgetuk437 said:
I wouldn't bother!
It's an ace bit of software.... for hiking, not biking!
It does OS maps, and it doesn't do any talking!
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hmm.. might have to avoid that then. Any other GPS 'talky' satnav programs out there you're aware of?

Christov said:
Hey guys, this has probably been answered before but I've had a look around... cant find a solution!
I ride a motorcycle and the satnav on the phone is absolutely superb, I'm using TomTom6, but unfortunately the problem I have is that I have to keep the phone in my pocket... which poses a problem as turning the phone into sleep mode or locking the phone turns the GPS chip off completely!
I can't really keep the phone on tomtom while in my pocket without locking it as touching the screen causes the tomtom to enter the menu and a whole series of settings get touched accidentally!
So is there a way to put the phone into sleep mode, by which i mean quickly pressing the button on the top to turn the screen off... but keep the gps on?
I've tried using HDTweak and AdvancedConfig but can't find the right settings if there are any
Any help would be appreciated!
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It really depends which SatNav software you're using. TomTom wants to have the screen active to work. Finally I hooked up a female cigarette lighter plug to my motorcycle battery and plug in my phone using a Cig/USB adapter...no more battery drain!

I use NoniGpsPlot.
And I have a feature to turn screen off.
I've tested. The GPS continues to plot while the screen is off.

well it's FINALLY working!
Gyrator2 did the job, if I get it to lock when the stylus is in, the gps and tomtom continues to work with the screen locked.
One drawback to this is that the screen actually freezes so you can't *see* where you're going but of course this is no problem for me as I'm listening and not watching. Pulling the stylus out updates the screen immediately to where you are while running tomtom ofc.
So thanks for all the help guys, so happy to have this handy feature working properly! But yeah, if other people want to do the same perhaps try something else if you want to see where you're going as well as hear!

Screen timeout killing phone!

Recieved my HD yesterday, and this is the symptom of the issue:
When the phone reaches its screen timeout (whether its 30 secs or 10 mins) period it the phone turns off completely. It is not possible to then turn the phone back on using the power switch or any other way. The only way the phone can be turned back on is to take the battery out and put it back in.
Initially i thought maybe it was the battery and somehow it didnt have proper connection with the copper contacts. However if i turn off the screen timeout off completely then the phone stays on and doesnt turn off. So as long as the phone doesnt go into power save mode or screen timeout its fine and stays on. Its also not the power switch as the switch works fine other wise.
I rang HTC support, spoke to some clueless call centre lady who tried to tell me it might be a proximity issue. I dont think it is as i dont have any issues when making or receiving calls. The problem is for some reason screen timeout causing the phone to completely shut down. I have searched on a few forums and cant seem to find anyone else with this issue.........FML

Forgot to add, i have also done the following:
- Reset to factory default
- Checked for udpates (get a message saying my phone is up to date)
- Made sure phone sim cover and battery cover are properly secured
Nothing has worked so far

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Its also not the power switch as the switch works fine other wise.
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So the switch turns the phone off and on again, or just off?

switch turns phone on and off any other time but after screen lockout kicks in it doesnt do anything, i have to take the battery out to turn the phone back on.
In a normal scenario if i want to power the phone down and then power it back up again then it is fine
Hope that makes sense

It really sounds like a software issue.
Is your DHD branded or unlocked?
Maybe try install some of the custom roms from arround the forum.I use LeeDroid 1.2 and it works like a charm.
Go to "ROM Development" thread. There are a few HOW-TOs on the top. There is always a risk u mess things up but it's small and from how it sounds, u don't have much of a choice anyway good luck

Its a branded "Orange" phone from the UK. I think im just going to return it and get a replacement and if i still have issues then ill try your suggestion thanks. Really disappointing, Desire HD seems to be riddled with issues.