Ok, a real dumb question, but do you need Wifi for this program, as I see on the website under requirements it only says you need a WM2003SE or WM5 phone.
I have never used this program and don't want to install it if I am not able to use it. I have a BT GPS receiver, as I see the program uses that, but what for?
Sorry about the stupid question, but if you don't ask, you don't learn.
Yes, you will need Wifi, since the app is a wifi locator/sniffer... You switch on wifi, start wififofum and it sniffs the wifi AP's in your vicinity, then shows you there security status. By using it, you can find unprotected wifi access points and use internet through them for free (unfortunately all my neighbours use WEP encryption, so I cannot use them). The GPS is used to store the GPS coordinates in a database, so next time you are looking for an AP it will check if you are near an unprotected one. It will work without GPS of course, but then it will not save the locations.
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Hello,
I have PDA2K (integrated WIFI of course).
I don't have any WIFI at work or home. But I may want to use it
sometimes outdoors in special cafes and internet wifi areas.
I didn't get the chance to use WIFI yet.
From what I undetstand, when WIFI radio is ON, my machine will automatically detect WIFI if areas that have it and I do not even need to do a single thing.
But I came across this program WiFiFoFum. From what I understand
it is a WIFI scanner, so that if I go to urban areas, it can automatically
scan for WIFI zones with public Internet and connect me there.
My question is what's the use if WM2003SE does it automatically already?
I'm looking for an easy and fast solution.
Thanks !
sorci said:
Hello,
I have PDA2K (integrated WIFI of course).
I don't have any WIFI at work or home. But I may want to use it
sometimes outdoors in special cafes and internet wifi areas.
I didn't get the chance to use WIFI yet.
From what I undetstand, when WIFI radio is ON, my machine will automatically detect WIFI if areas that have it and I do not even need to do a single thing.
But I came across this program WiFiFoFum. From what I understand
it is a WIFI scanner, so that if I go to urban areas, it can automatically
scan for WIFI zones with public Internet and connect me there.
My question is what's the use if WM2003SE does it automatically already?
I'm looking for an easy and fast solution.
Thanks !
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wififofum give you a list of all the AP's near you with there SSID and the SNR (signal strenght in db) and tells you if there encypted etc. the windows one is like XP zero config, it just pops up whenever it finds one and lets you connect to it, with a scanner you are scanning and not connecting,but it may give you the option to connect (perhaps when you find an open AP)
you should check out PocketWinCE, its my fav IMO, also check others like ministumbler but this probly wont work.
scanners (uses legally) are good to walk around your company premises to check for rouge AP's etx, illegally it can be used to find open AP that you could use to access internet email or anything TCP really,
I took a 5 km drive one day..
Windows came up with four different findings for connections..
WiFiFoFum found 24...
That's a 6:1 ratio for WFFF...
And at only a few hundred k.. ..install it and enjoy..
Bonzo said:
I took a 5 km drive one day..
Windows came up with four different findings for connections..
WiFiFoFum found 24...
That's a 6:1 ratio for WFFF...
And at only a few hundred k.. ..install it and enjoy..
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around and about glasgow you find loads and loads of AP's and many are unencrypted and unopened,
check out pocket lan, this goes great with wireless networking, you can map printers, shares, and much much more but i wont go into that as i doubt its gonna be used legally (in most cases)
COOL Thank you all guys for good info.
So what's the verdict for a good program that doesn't require
hours of tweakings and techie games to use ? Something simple
that will get the job done ?
Also are Encryped channels really encrypted? I mean, when surfing from an coffee shop that has WIFI, how can I be sure that my communication is totally encrypted and that no simple software sniffer can get catch all the data? OR maybe even hack my pocket pc ?
I thought about the WiFiFoFum as it's the first one I came accross with, but let's hear your choices for my goals (i.e. probably onle to catch wifi zones on t he streets) + sharing etc... would be nice.. disregard the price of the utility, i'm interested in performance.
Thanks guys!
WiFiFo Fum is the best..
It's simple to use, requires little memory, and can be used to connect to the AP's it finds..
As for encryption..
No, there is no WiFi network in the world that is secure..
The way ethernet is buildt, everyone with a very simple sniffer can download ALL your data stream..
As for security.. With WEP encryption, they will need roughly 4 to 6 GB of data before they can crack it and get any information from the data stream..
Don't be paranoid!
If you wanna check that it works, go stand outside PC world, or McSh1te and get WiFiForUm to do some sniffing.
You are right when you say that it 'should just work' unfortunately, though MS wrote windows mobile so it likely wont! If you dont find any hotspots when you think there should be some try a soft restart (my XDA IIs requires this swapping from work-->home AP, but not for Home-->work AP very odd.
Of course the AP's at PC world/mcsh1te will be btopenzone or thecloud ap's which means that it costs approximately 5 million pounds per hour to use them. But if you can sniff them and get to the appropriate 'give us your c/card page' then you've proven that the device works. Check out the btopenzone/thecloud websites for their login url's.
If they ever start being honest and offering a per MB tarriff at hotspots then I'll start using them.
Nigel
veletron said:
If you wanna check that it works, go stand outside PC world, or McSh1te and get WiFiForUm to do some sniffing.
You are right when you say that it 'should just work' unfortunately, though MS wrote windows mobile so it likely wont! If you dont find any hotspots when you think there should be some try a soft restart (my XDA IIs requires this swapping from work-->home AP, but not for Home-->work AP very odd.
Of course the AP's at PC world/mcsh1te will be btopenzone or thecloud ap's which means that it costs approximately 5 million pounds per hour to use them. But if you can sniff them and get to the appropriate 'give us your c/card page' then you've proven that the device works. Check out the btopenzone/thecloud websites for their login url's.
If they ever start being honest and offering a per MB tarriff at hotspots then I'll start using them.
Nigel
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tha scots knows all!! haha
thanks for all replies.
I downloaded the latest version of the program (0.3.3 i think)
Couldn't understand it or get it to work properly, it seems designed towards network technicians, not some normal pc/pda freak.
several issues:
1) When I go in urban areas, it does show on the Radar many spots, but the machine's own notification of 'Do you want to use xxxx for connecting to internet or work' dialog is interrupting it, and it starts to be a 'concert' of the WiFiFum and the internal network programs making noise.
2) When I did see many spots and tried to connect to some of them in the list screen(Try to tap and hold on the radar screen does ****) , it doesn't do ****. I click on Connect and no other dialog box or anything shows me as connected or something. Very akward program I must say. I also don't see in the list something which says if a spot is private or public (i.e. anonymous internet access allowed). And even not any help file. Seems like no human engineering was made here. I'd rather buy a program and pay nicely if it works rather than getting even a freeware which simply doesn't work.
Any other suggestion for other light programs that can actually work are very welcomed..
thanks again guys.
I think the problem might be between the stylus and the screen..
WiFiFoFum works flawlessly..
And please, forget about using the radar..
It will not work properly until you use TWO wifi cards..
When you see the list, tap and hold any AP to bring up a "Connect" option.
Now, you must remember; WFFF discovers EVERYTHING!
WM2003 only lets you connect to AP's that meets certain demands. (Signal strength is one)
I firmly believe that WFFF is the best software out there, just like NetStumbler is for Win32 environments..
I find it easy to use, and provides all the information I need..
How do you propose that the software can find out if you must pay before using it or not?
I guess this could be solved by connecting, pinging google, disconnecting and marking as "Public"/"Private"...
Though this would slow down the whole process so much, It would not be usable for anything else...
The concert can be disabled by the options panel, or just turning off the sound..
Sadly, we can't disable the WM2003 settings..
Street Hawk tries to connect to google so you know if the connection works.
Hi all,
I have an i-mate k-jam and I was wandering what was the best software to automaticaly connect to any open wifi.
I'm currently using WiFiFoFum2 that has a really cool radar detection and the possibility to add them as POI in TOMTOM. But it doesn't try to connect to the wifi network it found.
Do you have a good war driving prog??? (Maybe one that can try to Hack the "password protected" network)??? In general, what tool do you use for war driving???
Thanks.
I agree this would be a neat idea, especially if used with a GPS/Google maps/etc. to mark open networks. Im in Boston, and open networks are ALL over the place.
I don't know if this is a good idea.. because many networks have no encryption but they re-direct you to a web page in order to register (they check the mac addr)
The best way is to use wifofum to find networks with ssid default, linksys, usrobotics, wireless, etc...
then you can connect and check your e-mails
I can add that even on a fast machine it takes quite some time to hack 128 WEP, Let alone WPA. You need to capture about a million packets if the encryption is 128 WEP, then you can crack the code, in about an hour on a 2 ghz lappy with 512 of ram (last time I tryed =)) 64 bit WEP may be possible on a pocket pc but I cant think of anyone who would still use that. That lappy could crack that in about 5 min, with a minimal amount of packets. Nice idea though :twisted:
Later; Lew
you don't need to crack anything...
I travel a lot...
I need max 10min walking with wifofum to locate an unencrypted access point that shares internet... with ssid default etc...
I was in amsterdam last week. I could find open APs anywhere (even inside the room of my hotel from a nearby house/company) !
And you are not breaking any law....
If you crack wep then you do...
many foolish people turn on WEP or WPA and use the routers default pass key, maybe a program with a list of default keys which it tries could be useful.
The defaults keys may vary from manufacturer to manufacturer but there are lists available on the internet.
R
ameriaux said:
Hi all,
I'm currently using WiFiFoFum2 that has a really cool radar detection and the possibility to add them as POI in TOMTOM. But it doesn't try to connect to the wifi network it found.
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Try HitchHiker 0.4 beta1 (http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/) it's similar to wififofum but it will connect.
No WEP cracking or dictionary attack though.
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risidoro said:
ameriaux said:
Hi all,
I'm currently using WiFiFoFum2 that has a really cool radar detection and the possibility to add them as POI in TOMTOM. But it doesn't try to connect to the wifi network it found.
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Try HitchHiker 0.4 beta1 (http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/) it's similar to wififofum but it will connect.
No WEP cracking or dictionary attack though.
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Tried this - unfortunately it kept dying shortly after conecting to an available network - went back to wififofum2 - admitedly it doesnt connect but it does a good job of finding networks.
.NET 2.0 and Hitchhiker
Hitchhiker says it needs .net 2.0, and that is 24MB! Does it really need .net and how much free space does .net require? Will .net install on the sd card?
Found a cab file here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51118&highlight=net
and it is 2MB. Would still like to know if this can install on the sd card, does it screw up .net version 1, which is needed for registry wizard, and is hitchhiker worth it?
bratag : i noticed that the Hitchhiker crashed due to trying to connect using Pocket MSN. Try registering your MSN using the pocket MSN.
I did it and it works find after that
Tried Hitchhiker in WM%
and it crashed incessantly, sometimes taking the whole device down. It was a nuisance to install .net 2, although it helps to use the cab file located at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=51118
and then to follow the instructions involving shutting off the today screen items, soft reset, shut down all running programs (I used memmaid for this) and then install the cab. That got .net to run. Then I installed hitchhiker, but it seemed to conflict with the default wifi connection. I was near a wep enabled wifi connection of my own. Hitchhiker would accept the password and even connect me, then crash. I could still reach the internet even after it crashed, although a couple of times I had to do a soft reset because the screen wasn't responsive.
There was a report elsewhere of a t-mobile / hitchhiker problem, so perhaps it is the T-Mobile customization.
Is this really better than the native wm5 program for finding wifi's and connecting to them? Actually, often I can't connect to unprotected wifis very well, which is why I tried this program, but with 5 MB for .net and frequent crashes, it doesn't seem worth it. I would appreciate your reaction, however, since I would like to be able to use voip (sjphone) in Europe and readily connecting to wifis would help.
Yes Hitchhiker crashed for me too...
Finally I use an old version of WiFiFoFum = 0.3.3 to detect hotspot but unfortunaltely can't connect with it...
Ive tried Wi-Fi companion but it's a shareware and can't make it work on my 9100.
Does somebody has a complete list of the default ssid (maybe depend on the country)... linksys, usrobotics, wireless...
I'm really interested in the routers in France and USA.
Thanks
Wifi Companion is a pretty nice app. It has a connect option and has trace route and ping utilities as well..
http://www.socketcom.com/product/SW1221-596.asp
I have used all of those mentioned and had problems with all of them freezing, crashing etc. I now use PocketWiNc, version 1.3 build 952. It is a special edition put out by PC mag. I dont remember where I got it, but I am sure a search can find it. It is free but has just a couple features that dont work in the free version (that I wouldnt use anyway).
PocketWinc the Special PC Mag Edition can be found here for free...
http://www.pocketpcfreeware.com/en/index.php?soft=1052
mine wizard cant connect on network after I use wififo,so I had to hard reset and backup it and now working ok
mapas said:
you don't need to crack anything...
I travel a lot...
I need max 10min walking with wifofum to locate an unencrypted access point that shares internet... with ssid default etc...
I was in amsterdam last week. I could find open APs anywhere (even inside the room of my hotel from a nearby house/company) !
And you are not breaking any law....
If you crack wep then you do...
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In The Netherlands you are breaking the law, well according to the new system. But if you can't protect your open wifi you are probably 99.999 of 100.000 shure you will not be seen on the network
techspy said:
I have used all of those mentioned and had problems with all of them freezing, crashing etc. I now use PocketWiNc, version 1.3 build 952. It is a special edition put out by PC mag. I dont remember where I got it, but I am sure a search can find it. It is free but has just a couple features that dont work in the free version (that I wouldnt use anyway).
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I tried installing this on my wizard, and it said it couldnt find a wifi adapter...
jmel said:
techspy said:
I have used all of those mentioned and had problems with all of them freezing, crashing etc. I now use PocketWiNc, version 1.3 build 952. It is a special edition put out by PC mag. I dont remember where I got it, but I am sure a search can find it. It is free but has just a couple features that dont work in the free version (that I wouldnt use anyway).
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I tried installing this on my wizard, and it said it couldnt find a wifi adapter...
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Do you have your wifi on before starting the app?
Does the alpine has wifi? Can i use hotspots? I've checked the apps that come with the alpine and i don't know if i have the necessary app to do so.
I have WM2003SE.
Thanks a lot.
Yes it does, and yes you can!
I suggest a program called Hitchhiker, and also WiFiFoFum. Hitchhiker is an easy to use program that does all the techno stuff of connecting to different WiFi networks, and WiFiFoFum gives you a broad view of the available networks close to you.
You don't require either of these to access WiFi networks, you can simply turn on the WiFi on your Alpine and select the network to use.
thanks a lot!
is there a simple way to check if your built-in wlan device is working properly? I have the "socket wlan tools mobile edition" but when I try to turn the radio on nothing happens, I also installed the "hitchhicker" and i get a message error saying I don´t have a wlan device... what the heck?!
Thanks again
depro
Hi
Has anyone found a good wifi finder app for the wizard?
Scott
http://www.aspecto-software.com/rw/applications/wififofum/
Cheers,
Drifter
i second that... Wififofum is fantastic software! I use it all the time, i couple that with my gps reciever and then import all the open wifi spots to a map
Another great one is Kasuei Hitchhiker (freeware). It doesnt log GPS spots, but it WILL auto-connect to best level (more important to me).
http://www.kasuei.com/hitchhiker/
are you looking to connect, or just locate them??? if you are looking to connect to the hotspots, use the hitchhiker as posted by rubbercow, It is great software, but a little flaky at times.
I used to use wifigraph by the same developer as the hitchhiker, but the developer ceased development when he branched off to make hitchhiker.. It was great software that graphed the signal strength of the networks. It still works on older PPCs but it doesn't work with the wifi chip in the Wizard. I'm sure that if a liitle development was done on it, it would only take a few hours of work to update the database of compatible drivers for the software to use it on the wizard. I have reccomended doing so to the developer, but I understand people who write software in their spare time. They have a long list of things they want to get done but never the time to do it.
Is there anyway to make the phone connect to the internet using wifi before it will use alltel?
I know how to set my wifi adapter to access the internet.. But alltel data is always active and I cannot even utilize the wifi feature.
The only way i have been able to get it to use Wifi for internet is if I delete the alltel data settings. But i need them inthere incase I am not bear an open access point.
Ive searched the forum and found no relavent information. If I have missed it, please direct me to it... Thanks!
Just delete the connection. If you have a stock rom the connection will come back on its own after a restart. If on custom rom then just install an alltel carrier cab if you want it back.
So there isnt any way to keep the data and make it secondary? I go in and out of wifi coverage all day and it would be nice to have it connect to data if needed. thanks for the reply.
not that i know of
nodata utility. Lets you disable your data and just use wifi. Then when you want it back you just toggle it to enable. Worked good for me
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility-nodata/
i love how people are so quick to say "no, no & no"
then they get schooled from the autumnal equinox of 2006
nice application
i knew i had seen it before
but didn't have the linkopottamus
i love how people are so quick to say "no, no & no"
then they get schooled from the autumnal equinox of 2006
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Lol, thanks for the info, i havent been here in a couple days, but I will try it out...
I had my internet setup to use wifi before i flashed my phone the last time, but when I deleted the data connection this time, it did not work..
I obviously did something else and I cant remember what it was. I found where I could "delete settings" for alltel even after I deleted the main connection. I think that did it..
Now after that I could connect to facebook app via wifi, but IE would not work.. For that I had to go in and change the way apps that need to connect to a private network to My ISP as well.
It just seems to me that there is an easy way to do this... Would also be nice to be able to tell and change whether a program is connecting automatically to the internet or private network. I wonder if that is a registry setting that can be changed..
I also just have removed the password from the data connection. Rarely, I mean rare, when I use data as I enabled WiFi first. If I really want to use data, I punch in the password.
There was also a real cool app I saw that I forgot to tag the thread. But it would do things based on the cell tower you were using. I thought it might have had controls for WiFi as well, it definitely did for ring setting.