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Hi all, I bought a Qtek S100 and tried to connect it with my BT GPS receiver (Falcom Navi 1). It didn't work properly and I suddely lost te BT icon on the lower right hand side of the S100. It hasn't re-appeared even after several soft resets?
Does the S100 have the sae BT problems with GPS as the xdaII had?
I use BT GPS and the only problem so far is that I have to re-pair them sometimes.
Try Start->Settings->Connections->Bluetooth to get to the same screen as you would get to by clicking the BT icon.
THanks for the reply. Which BT GPS do you use? and with what Navigation program?
Holux GR-231 and TomTom3.
I am having problem with Bluetooth GPS as well. I have 2, one is iTrek Bluetooth GPS and one is ArcoreTech Bluetooth GPS.
Since I have tried both GPS units, I am pretty sure it's i-Mate JAM's Bluetooth problem.
Instead of upgrading my ROM to 1.06.00 WWE, I should have tried it out with version 1.03 first. I upgraded from 1.03 to 1.06 as soon as my JAM finished charging. BIG MISTAKE!
I ended up usiing "Pocket Bluetooth Tool" to designate COM8 (for example) for my GPS. However, if I happen to soft reset or turn of Bluetooth, I would have to pair it again.
I read many article's on the internet and the problem seems to point to the MS Bluetooth stack (instead of Widcomm used in my i-Mate PDA2K - and by the way PDA2K works perfectly with my GPS units).
Hopefuly i-Mate will address this problem during the next ROM update.
So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
I would like to guess that he uses ROM version 1.03...
Jazzedout said:
So how come Loboman's holux works ok?
Loboman are you using a different BT stack?
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I use 1.06.00. All i do is that I tap on the BT icon, choose 'Devices', tap 'New...' and waits until the phone finds the GPS. Then I add it and pair it with the passkey. Then I had to scan all serial ports using a program that Holux supplies (I bet it works with any BT reciever though) to find out that my port was COM5 and finally I set my programs to use COM5. As I previously stated, I do have to re-pair them sometimes for some reason, but I can live with that.
I previously had an Acore unit which worked ok with my iPAQ 5450 (also MS BT stack) in WM2003. It took me all the way from northern Sweden to Barcelona in Spain last summer
I have not used Pocket Bluetooth Tool, but I have read about it. I think that it works without it so far. I also leave my BT on 24/7 since I don't think that it uses too much battery.
I hope things work out for you.
Absolutley no problems with Rom 1.01.01 Ger and Navilock BT-308 GPS-Mouse
I am not sure if the following has anything to do with Bluetooth but at least it cured my Bluetooth vs. GPS problem, for now.
On Club i-Mate's ROM update page, I found out that if the radio version is 1.10, then I am NOT suppose to apply the camera patch. After I uninstalled it, my JAM seems to work better with Bluetooth GPS units. My biggest problems were:
1. Once I soft reset my JAM, I have to re-pair my GPS units.
2. PrymeNav software took a long time to scan for GPS - and crashes sometimes when I designate already-scanned port.
3. Unable to hold two paired GPS units in Bluetooth Device List (though only used on at a time).
I have played with it after I uninstalled the camera patch and to this morning my GPS units still function well. Another key is to turn on the GPS unit and make sure it is linked (as indicated by its LED) - then turn on the GPS software. That way the hardwares are ensured to be linked.
As a side bonus, now I can perform Bluetooth Activesync on my Mac (via PocketMac software). However, I still require Pocket Bluetooth Tool installed on my JAM.
Weird!
Please , please can anyone tell me if it is possible to remove the crap $icrosoft Bluetooth drivers and on my SPV M500 and install better ones. As they are so crap and have taken out alot of function.
Please tell me there is a way
Thanks
Brian
What do you want??? I'm using that same MS stack on my S110 and I cannot say I miss anything compared to Widcomm on my old iPAQ, everything I need (ActiveSync, OBEX, SerialPort) can be done via BT. What are you missing???
Besindes you can install another stack like the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil and disable the MS one (cannot be uninstalled because it is in ROM).
Magican with 64MB RAM cant run Widcom but maybe the 128MB ones like the S110 can, but I'm not brave enough to test it. Despite I've no idea where to get the Widcom stack for PPC.
one of the most important things is my car kit requires me to activate the serial port on port 5, but My IPAQ in the bluetooth i click on the carkit port and select connect, and works fine, but i do not have that fuction with my Orange M500, until i can connect the port it will not work so thats why i need other bluetooth software that has this fuction. it seems like $icrosoft is the onlt bluetooth stact that does not have this fuction, and they have cut it down
Hope you understand that
Well I use my Holux 236 GPS on Port5 using SPP (SerialPortProfile) so the functionality is in the MS stack for sure.
Sorry and by the way, where can i get the Toshiba one or one from Bluesoleil bluetooth stack drivers and how do i disable the $icrosoft ones
Thanks again
Brian
Yes, but it does not have the manual connect fuction like other bluetooth statcks do, and i can not connect to the carkit without it. my other device have that fuction and works well, just not my M500
Brian
You can get the bluesoleil one here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537&highlight=bluesoleil
The Toshiba one can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15604&highlight=toshiba
Important: Both stacks are not perfect. The bluesoleil is limited because the Magician is not a device it is registered on and because of that it has a 5MB data trasfer limit before you need to start it again (like a trial). The Toshiba one is really good but unstable at times.
You best bet is prolly the Bluesoleil one and the "trial" limitation can be removed, see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24801&highlight=bluesoleil
Instructions are avail in those two threads too. Could you let me know how it goes, I'm thinking of using another stack too.
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong. The MS stack establishes the serial port connection automatically once an application tries to use that port. I don't know how it works, but the stack can separate between a connection through the serial profile using Active Sync and a connection using a navigation software to the GPS mouse. For me, it works with no problem. I can use ActiveSync and afterwards go into my car, switch on TomTom and it connects to my bluetooth GPS mouse automatically.
I guess it also has to do how the corresponding navigation software deals with the BT stack. Therefore you should try another software and see if it works better.
It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
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i do not have any problem with any other bluetooth device, it just my CK3500 karkit requires you to do a manual connect, and the MS stack does not have that function.
And thanks to Private-Cowboy, will try this and post update
Thanks again
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Then really it's the car kit that's at fault. :?
TheBrit, looks like you was correct, problem with the carkit
Thanks
Brian
Dandie said:
Using a GPS mouse should work without problems. I guess you're doing something wrong...
...It's basically true, that you can do almost everything with the crippled MS stack aswell. Even browsing the net through ActiveSync, even though it has no PAN profile. What it really lacks is the A2DP profile. I think WM5 also features HID, for keyboards, mouses and stuff.
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I'm afraid I not fully agree with you...
In my case (I have a MDA Compact) for my bluetooth GPS mouse to work properly within TomTom 5, I need to bond the GPS mouse with COM5. And that means that I cannot connect simultaniously to an external GSM (for TomTom Traffic via GPRS).
Why an external phone on my MDA Compact? On the MDA I have my work provider and on an external phone I have my private provider with GPRS (a bit difficult I know).
As said to two functions together doesn't work with the MS stack because of the bonding of the GPS mouse on COM5.
Except...
Except when I install an old version of Bluetooth Tools!!! With Bluetooth tools I can bond my GPS mouse to a virtual COM port, which TomTom 5 recognizes! And now I can also use my external GPRS phone!
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
brian colston said:
OK, I can have 2 connection through my MS stack. as i do it
i bound com 5 to my portable Slim GPS until and run tomtom 5.10 in my car, and that works fine, then on my car kit i click connect to paired device and it then connect fine,(so i have a com 5 connection to my GPS and a connection to my hands free car kit). all through my Orange SPV 500 at once
This work great,
But i wanted to use the car kit for handfree and GPS, but as my gps does not work on my car kit i am stuck with my portable Slim GPS unit for now
Brian
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Yes, it works with a handsfree carkit. But it doesn't with an external phone, maybe because the phone is a 2-way connection? Try it and you'll see it doesn't!
Ok sorry about that
Brian
Before anyone says anything, yes I have tried looking.....
I have a problem with TT5.21 where I can connect to the BT GPS several times but then all of a sudden TT won't connect again. The only way I can do it is to delete the pairing with the GPS reciever and re-pair it setting up the COM ports again. It will then work fine 3 or 4 more times and I have to do it again.
I know the GPS works fine as it works perfect on my Alpine (believe it or not).
Has anyone any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, I have this problem too, no set times or obvious reasons as to why tomtom loses gps, still appears in bluetooth device list, but tomtom cannot see it, only way to get tomtom to recognise the gps is to delete pairing and re-pair gps.
Eventually figured it out. When setting up the initial pairing (or was it com port), I cleared the use secure connection radio box and it seems to be fine now.
Thanks for your response though and I hope this works for you too.
Is it possible to use both TomTom (with a bluetooth GPS node) and a bluetooth headset at the same time?
I've managed to do it although that was on an old O2 ROM, not the new one.
Hi,
i have a new JVC car radio (AVX33) with builtin Bluetooth and a Bluetooth GPS Mouse. Everything work fine also A2DP stereo but only one at time When my BA (with last Explode Rom) is connected to the radio and i want navigate with TomTom or any other programm i cant connect to the GPS mouse.
Disconnect the Radio, the GPS Mouse worked fine but when i reconnect the radio, it disconnect the GPS mouse.
Is there any way to use both at the same time?
Thanks,
tasar
It seems that all BA WM6 (6.1) ROM do not manage correctly multiple connections with BT devices at the same time. There is no way, for example, to grant BT ActiveSync connection while connected to a stupid BT hearphone (or to a GPS unit, as in your example).
I will downgrade to WM 2003 very soon...
Not good to hear But when i go back to 2003 i cant play music over BT,right? No A2DP with 2003?
Is this a problem form the BA or from WM6? I tkink to buy another PDA (which?) but when there is the same problem, i can keep my BA.
Tasar
Correct Mixture can be possible
Unfortunately, the current answer is a mixture between the WWE os and BT Software with know sacrafice.
My current build is: BA 5.2.19202 with MS BT
This is the current issue that you are defining.
Previous build:
TouchFlo 5.2.1938 with Broadcom 1.7.1
This allows the use of BT GPS and A2DP stereo at the same time.
Unfortunately it is at the cost of the phone feature. If you pair the headset feature of the of the stereo device, it will always choose the headset and not A2DP.
So the end question is: what enviroment do you want. A phone pda or pda
One final issue: The Broadcom 1.7.1 software does not work with all os. My 5.2.1902 will not work and the uninstall restores an older version of the MS BT with problems. I ended up reflashing the device.
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So the end question is: what enviroment do you want. A phone pda or pda
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What a question Of course i want a Phone PDA!
But is the Bluetooth Problem an BA problem or a WM6? I think to buy another/newer PDA but when this is an WM6 Problem i can keep my BA.
Tasar
Push this to top again.
Is there a solution for this problem...?
I want to connect my BA (WM6) to a BT-Mouse and to a BT-Headset (mono) at the same time. Does this cause any Problems, or does it work...?
Greets Rossi
You should try; i connect my BT-GPS receiver and my BT-headset in the same time, with no problems.
Can you tell which GPS and Headset, and what are youre settings...?
I tried with these and it won't work:
- Navilock BT-348 Bluetooth GPS
- MIDLAND Rider Bluetooth Headset
Which version of WM6, eg. HELMIs...?
Greets Rossi
Hi!
I've installed a great ROM from babak00000, with Windows mobile 6.5, but i'm now having a bluetooth issue:
- i've got a GPS devide that i use. I've installed the device and user until yesterday without problems. But today I had a problem: my GPS software in Prophet did not recognize the gps device.
- i looked at bluetooth devices under WM, and saw that it was not connected. I used the option to connect, but it gives me an error: device could not bo connected because there was a problem in connection or PIN is incorrectlike that. Well, Pin is correct, so I think it is a problem with something else...
- I have a bluetooth headset that works without any problem. I do not use both bluettoth devices at same time
- I've tried to disconnect GPS device, and reconnect again from the beginning, but the problem keeps appearing.
-I've got configured GPS device with port COM6, and the GPS software as also COM6. Without issues till today.
- I've tried to disconnect and reconnect bluetooth in pda, but with no success...
Does anyone know something about this? Can somebody help me?
Recent edit: I've made a full backup and a hard reset, and the problem keeps annoying.....
Hi.
I was using this Rom but I had a lot of problems with my bt device and wifi and finally.... I have wm6.1 again.... Is the most stable and fast wm version... No problems with my bt GPS device and no problems with wifi at office and home...