Looking at the specification would I be correct in thinking the new XDA II is almost indentical hardware to the original XDA II?
If so it should be possible to upgrade the XDA II to Windows Mobile 2003 2nd Edition with the XDA IIs new firmware ? ?
Or am I missing something?
Well it's similar but not identical, slide out keyboard, built-in WLAN etc. Having said all that, Tekguru are hinting that there will be an announcement sometime this weekend that will be of interest to current XDAII owners, I have all my fingers crossed that it is the prayed for WM2003SE upgrade
Yep I've been watching the Tekguru site re the announcement...
It seems like we've meet on the dark side ....
Duncan
LOL! Now how was I too know from that Forum Name! Well let's 'all' keep our fingers crossed, besides I need a ROM update as it must be almost a week since I last hard reset Oh and if you need any more X-Type mounts let me know, chopping mine in for a Disco next month.
Why not a CHEAP XDAII -> IIs upgrade plan :twisted:
i read the specs of the XDAIIs and it says that it incorporates the widcomm BT drivers already. maybe some can extract this so we can have a working version on our XDAII.
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From Infosync:
O2 XDA to get Windows Mobile 2003-ified
By: Jørgen Sundgot, Monday 23rd June 2003, 04:05 GMT
Mobile network operator mmO2 today announced its intent to bring to market an upgrade to Windows Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC - the successor to Microsoft's Pocket PC 2002 platform - for its O2 XDA WAN handheld. Currently undergoing internal alpha testing, mmO2 could neither comment on whether the upgrade would be made available to users for free, nor at what time the upgrade could be expected to arrive. The O2 XDA is currently powered by Pocket PC 2002 Phone Edition.
This is great news, that means that most likely, we all users that have the Xda in all flavors, will be able to upgrade to 2003, even if the Carriers don't release an official upgrade with this I wouldn't be surprised if someone comes out with a 2003 SE ROM!!!!!!
WOW ! Great news !!! :lol: :lol:
What's your sense about this vis-a-vis the XDA Dev ROM? Will the update to 2003 essentially 'erase' the XDA Dev ROM? If not, what features/functionality will be left over after the 2003 upgrade?
Thanks,
TM
We will, ofcourse, study the 2003 ROM is great depth, and we will release a Special Edition 2003 ROM if that is anywhere near possible. First signs look positive, and we'll be looking into it further soon.
(Don't count on it, but it would ofcourse be hilarious if the Special Edition 2003 pre-dates the official release...)
Windows Mobile 2003 for pocket pc
Check this out for the upgrade
www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/products/pocketpc/about/2003/upgrade.mspx
If this can be pulled off then what a result!
Power PC 2003 upgrade
I followed the link given
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/products/pocketpc/about/2003/upgrade.mspx
but fail to see anywhere where it explicity mentions that an XDA is possible.
I attended the 1.5 mostly programmers oriented webcast from microsoft. It became clear that whilst PPC 2003 may be a relatively easy upgrade to PPC 2002, smartphone release is not so easy. They mentioned that code has been sent to individual manufactures (i.e. the smartphone code) to be integrated by that manufacturer.
I have consulted the http://www.o2.co.uk/productsservices/xda_index/0,,170,00.html
website for upgrade information, but IMHO O2 has not done themselves any favours in their support of the basic XDA functionality on that site, so it was no great suprise that I could not PPC 2003 smartphone edition upgrade information there.
If anybody has definitive information on the upgrade i.e. a weblink then I recommend it is posted here please.
Taken from http://www.pocketpcmag.com/Nov03/windowsmobile2003.asp
"All Pocket PC 2002 devices and the original iPAQ Pocket PC 2000s are physically capable of being upgraded to Windows Mobile 2003...
Manufacturers of the Pocket PC Phone Edition devices are in the process of testing Windows Mobile 2003. This will delay the introduction of Phone Edition devices using the new software, and any upgrade for existing users. At the time I wrote this article, no upgrade plans had been announced. Again, check with the manufacturer of the device for upgrade information. As soon as we find out, we'll publish it here in Pocket PC magazine. "
upgrades cost money . . .
Anywhere that I have looked I have seen a price for the upgrade. normally around the US$50. This does seem reasonable, not that I would pay that of course.
With this in mind what issues would the XDA-Developers encouter when manipulating this ROM...
As mentioned in the ROM SE we are personally responsible for adding the extra software, updates etc. Will we see an update here first....
Martin
o2 have mounting costs, and are not doing too well as a business. I know this from many friends who work there. They are not as strong a position as vodafone or t-mobile, hence this probably translates into slow moving, and lack of support. Additioanally, the 2003 might not be a free upgrade because of this.
PDF file, instructions on how to do the upgarde
Hello
i have posted a link for instructions on generic Microsoft Pocket PC 2003 Phone Edition operating system, specifically for xda. somewhere in this forum click on search if you are interestd
Othman
I got this email from o2 asia.So may be we don't have a chance to up wm2003 with final release from o2,how about qtek does anybody know about it?
O2's position on Pocket PC 2003
O2 Asia will not be deploying the Pocket PC 2003 upgrade. The Pocket PC 2003 upgrade is subject to the original design of the hardware and the level of integration of the device, particularly between the phone and pda functions. The O2 xda was not designed to support Bluetooth and Wi-Fi and therefore could not take advantage of some of the most important feature upgrades inherent in Pocket PC 2003. After careful evaluation of the costs and benefits and the relatively low impact on the user experience of the current xda version, we have decided not to deploy this upgrade. We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
Can't be... I hope....
the part about Bluetooth and WiFi is bull****, look at the low-end ipaqs...
They don't wanna tell us, that all WM2003 devices will need to have WiFi and Bluetooth, do they?
If "The Pocket PC 2003 upgrade is subject to the original design of the hardware" how come I and many others are happly running it on our little old xda's :!: Hmmm, maybe they are trying to say it will only be available on xda 2, it would be cheaper for them in the long run.
Its a Bad News
All,
I got the problem after i upgrade PPC 2003, may be my mistake I erase the bootloader. This week i went to KL and I go to XDA helpdesk in Malaysia but i get disapointed with them... they didnt do anything with my Device they can't install the bootloader software. and about this news it's sucks :twisted: i feel like change to another device because the donn't have good support after sales service.
Oh no,
I sure hope O2 releases a version in europe!
bigies said:
We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
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I may be missing something here - but basically are they saying they are going to provide a small 2002 update, almost a year late, that will provide functions that should have been in the orignal ROM. Functions that many people have already installed because of the generosity and skills of the many enthusiasts here that write killer free aps!!
If it is true
Maybe O2 try to concentre on the XDA- 2( Big competitor SS i700)
Infact only more than 4 months new XDA should be introduced in the market
No time for old XDA- more than enough- 64 000 devices saled in total from May 2002
That why do not wait something special in the next upgrade maybe the Special Developers- ROM 1.2 the best one
This is trading plan, new products- new price-new features -hopefully future- more customers -more profit
It is meaning, we have to change new device for speed, D.Camera, bluetooth, WIFI and WM2003 ??? in the end of this year
Any ideas?
If it is true
Maybe O2 try to concentre on the XDA- 2( Big competitor SS i700)
Infact only more than 4 months new XDA should be introduced in the market
No time for old XDA- more than enough- 64 000 devices saled in total from May 2002
That why do not wait something special in the next upgrade maybe the Special Developers- ROM 1.2 the best one
This is trading plan, new products- new price-new features -hopefully future- more customers -more profit
It is meaning, we have to change new device for speed, D.Camera, bluetooth, WIFI and WM2003 ??? in the end of this year
Any ideas?
Jayman said:
bigies said:
We are however pleased to announce that we will be introducing significant new features with another upgrade which will include the wireless modem, SIM Toolkit support and the SMS caller ID fix.
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I may be missing something here - but basically are they saying they are going to provide a small 2002 update, almost a year late, that will provide functions that should have been in the orignal ROM. Functions that many people have already installed because of the generosity and skills of the many enthusiasts here that write killer free aps!!
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Its not that, because the latest software upgrade to 3.17 and rsu to 4.21 is in fact meant for the UK model. What they're saying is that they'll be releasing the Asian model's upgrades soon. With Asian Carriers Auto-config. Thats my take on it. In the mean time, I did my upgrade last night to WM2003, pretty happy except for a few minor details...
Follow these links:
http://www.pdalive.com/showarticle.php?threadid=6710
http://www.pocketpcparadise.com/ (XDA IV pour 2005 ?)
http://www.pdamag.ru/pages/show.php?idx=214
Could be something reliable?
More links: http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/2823.html
http://www.mobilemag.ch/forum/index...d4339ce4643&showtopic=19130&st=0&#entry136645
http://cellphones.engadget.com/entry/3093445122366434/
http://www.pocketgear.com/news_detail.asp?id=161027
...and more and more...
I don't know about this one. HTC Should be able to get a new PocketPC Phone Edition device for 2005. However, I wonder if we'd ever be able to get our hands on this device...
Quand band is a must for NA.
VGA should have been included with te Himalaya.
Anyway, let's hope that HTC will get this device on the market in time, at a reasonnable price.
Talking about the price I think it could be embarrassing to see the XDA IV on the market only few month after you bought version III...! :?
Rumors said that XDA IV should have UMTS capabilities, and this skill could be interesting in Italy. At present we have one phone company offering this kind of service, but in a short time they should become three.
I think the XDA 4 is for "3" and the XDA 2 is not! I dont realy want a "3" phone, so I look at them as two different products.
zakeen said:
I think the XDA 4 is for "3" and the XDA 2 is not! I dont realy want a "3" phone, so I look at them as two different products.
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Yeah, but it also says it's going to be quad band GSM, which is pretty relevant these days for international travellers.
It is real
MDA4 is real, because announced MDA3 is not made by HTC (as MDA1 and MDA2). T-Mobile ordered this piece of hardware somewhere in China and labelled it as MDA3, but it has nothing in common with maker of MDA1 and MDA2. T-Mobile did it just because he needed a response to Motorola MPx (WindowsMobile Communicator with the keyboard and WiFi). It't just a temporary solution - the real successor of MDA2 will be the MDA4 made by HTC again.
That makes more sence!
would be too much to ask them to include a built-in IR beamer for virtual keyboard ?? :wink:
The idea of having many built-ins looks apealing, but I personally prefer many interfaces (SDIO, CF, ... etc) for accessories that should allow you to get the latest models without the need to get a new device.
I'm confident as well that the day will come when we can replace the CPU and add RAM as we do with the current PCs
Re: It is real
Arkobad said:
MDA4 is real, because announced MDA3 is not made by HTC (as MDA1 and MDA2). T-Mobile ordered this piece of hardware somewhere in China and labelled it as MDA3, but it has nothing in common with maker of MDA1 and MDA2. T-Mobile did it just because he needed a response to Motorola MPx (WindowsMobile Communicator with the keyboard and WiFi). It't just a temporary solution - the real successor of MDA2 will be the MDA4 made by HTC again.
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is it the official info :?:
The word is out!!! :
German tmobile is offering the mdacompact 2 around middle of november 2005.
Specs:
128mb
Windows mobile 2005!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Seemingly NO wlan!!!!
See photo from official catalogue:
thats a joke... isn't it
no wlan... than i see no serious reason to buy an mdac2 instead an mdac1... only because of 128mb an wm05...
tko said:
thats a joke... isn't it
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No, its not a joke!!!
The employees couldnt tell me a price yet, and the catalogue definately does not show specifications with wlan!!!!
I asked the employees and they couldnt find wlan either.
You should be able to pick up the catalogue yourself at your favourite tmobile store within the next few days.
Greetings
No wifi for any new PPC phone is a joke, saying that, no EDGE is aswell!
I wonder, would the MDA2 rom work on the normal magician.... cause if it has no wifi module wouldnt it be just ur run-of-the-mill Qtek S110 / upgraded magician?
If this is the real deal, there wouldn't be much reason for current Magician owners to update. But at least they could keep on selling this very popular phone for some time yet, provided they dump the price.
And why shouldn't they? Surely they have made enough money already on the Magician, so whatever they can get in on v2, is just an welcome bonus.
If the WM5 rom can be installed on the current Magicians, they would even get a very happy userbase, which most likely would choose the same brand again
Btw, have you noticed the lower two buttons are the same as on the current Magician? Oh well, guess we shouldn't read too much into this early picture...
This product is similar to the i-mate New Jam with 128mb ram and WM2003SE, I have this device and it is very nice,very stable and i love it.
The only difference is WM5 and if they do release it then we all can have WM5 on our devices.
It's coming out in the UK too, but in a different colour.....
I wouldn't presume you'll be able to upgrade a Magician with a Magician2 ROM. After all you can't upgrade a Himilaya with an Alpine ROM.
Unless of course it really is exactly the same device - with WM5?
Well, it LOOKS to be the exact same device. If they did any upgrades, wouldn't they advertise it?
After the Raptor hoax I guess most people don't wanna get their hopes up again, but I find this thing very interesting
For all disbelievers
@all,
stop doubting!
here you see main cataloge page and specs page:
note: specs page does not state wlan, while other machine specs does!!!
just changed specs page to full page
Greetings
The second ad also states "extensible memory". They wouldn't refer to the SD slot, would they?
Chatty said:
The second ad also states "extensible memory". They wouldn't refer to the SD slot, would they?
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Yes they do,
extensible memory = sd-io/mmc slot.
But SD is not usual memory, it is storage.
But I wouldn't be surprised it marketing is mixing it "accidentally" up... :roll:
We're in November today ... can't wait to see how this develops!!!
shafez - does it have built in wifi?
V
If that's the new MDA Compact II, why is the spec on the below different?
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/4493.html
It claims to have Wifi and the two buttons seem to have different functions than this German one.
Ahh yes. "reliable" msmobiles.... ahem
ibanyard said:
Ahh yes. "reliable" msmobiles.... ahem
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:lol: :lol: 8)
Yeah- the German one seems more convincing...
Yayyy its november already, c'mon you guys on germany, get this phone so we can "exam" it!!
Hi All, This may be one of those stupid questions....it probably is
I've just ordered my xda exec after many happy years service from my iPAQ h5550 and previous to that h3970... That was easy, all the software I had bought worked fine on the swap......now having already ordered my xda exec.....it suddenly occurs to me....will any of my software, particularly tom tom 3 gps, work with the xda....... DOH !!!
Many Thanks
Tim
Check out the following link, it is fairly helpful.
http://www.wm5fixsite.com/
Also, there are some real good posts on this forum, simply search.......
Tomtom 3 won't work so you will need to upgrade to version 5, unfortunately Tomtom withdrew their special upgrade offer just before they announced it was compatible with WM5. The upgrade special should be re-introduced in Q2.
Mike