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xbackup killed my SD card???

Sorry, newbie so sorry if answerd else where
xda II running fine, put in my new kingston 528meg SD card, seems ok. ran xbackup for first time and is slow so left it to run overnight. woke up message says done ok. BUT now xda can't see storage card at all!! :?
tried reset, same. tried 32meg SD card out of wifes Nokia: sees that fine. cant try kingston SD in Nokia cos its a different physical size
Any ideas? or can you reformat these SD cards in the xda?
Thanks

if pocket mechanics cant formet it because it cant see the card then
a sd reader for the pc they are only like 10$ would most likely see it
or you could try and see if your wife's phone could format it
or another device which use SD cards like a camera

just tried CNetX flashformat but it cant see the card damm why are SD cards different sizes ( wont fit in wifes nokia and camera is Compact flash memory) arrgggggg

are you sure that the nokia use sd?
because the nokia's i've seen use mmc flash which look just like sd but thinner and sd devices can use mmc but not the other way around
did you try pocket mechanics?

doh my mistake yup the nokia 6230 is mmc
tried pocket mechanics to no avail. mate popping round with his xda ii in a mo so i can try his card and vice versa. hes going to take my card and try and format it with his pc which has a built in reader
ill keep you posted :idea:

UPDATE
Card is dead! tried it in mates xda ii and his pc and it can't be seen. off to post it back to China! ( ebay rules )

xBackup isn't what killed your card - it was the XDA itself.
I have destroyed a 1GB Toshiba, and a 512MB Toshiba so far.
My 256MB Kingston has been fine.

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Put the card to a card-reader/writer(on a PC) and try to check it for errors(Scandisk/Chkdsk). If it doesn't help,try to format the card with standard FAT32 filesystem... My experience is,that the filesystem can be injured the same way as a floppy when you remove it(cut-off data transfer) before is any file not closed for write yet. I loosed once all my important data from SD. The /Storage is the most secure place for my important documents,that I know.

SD card no longer recognized: how to solve problem?

After exchanging from MMC card to SD card the PPC wants to reformat the SD card (the one with all your programs and back up etc on it [1GB]). The other SD card of 256mb is not recognized at all anymore (so much for all my music). Could there be a connection from the fact that I have had a MMC card inserted before? I already have put back the MMC card to see if some program had not been closed properly. ALthough I fortunately have a recent backup of my 1GB SD card ( but not my 256 mb card) I would prefer to find a more sophisticated solution than to reformat my SD card. Who has a solution for me? Thanks.

Is there a bug between MMC and SD?

SD Card getting corrupted by MDA II !!
Hello,
I have MDA ii since last two months and my device has corrrupted my extreme - 512 SD Card Twice and after corruption it's not even recognized by PPC , USB card reader and my camera.
I have installed omeg a_Red OS. on my MDA ii
Following are the details of my device
ROM Version : 2.0.6.00 WWE
ROM Date : 06/14/2004
Radio Version : 1.18.00
Protcol Version : 1337.38
ExtROM Version : Diamond 1.2 se
Please help

try to open it with card reader. and back up first.

Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.

ross1234 said:
Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.
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have you been able to read your SD card at all. I am having the same problem with my XDAIIi. Cannot read the card on any device or PC.

Yep it worked fine straight away, hence I had "Loads of pictures and movies on there too. "
Does any one know what it going on?

maybe the card is dead
seen it happening to a CF card once all of a surden it just died
and would not work in the digicam sdreader ..,....

Nooooo, is that it then?!?! data none recoverable?
Does this happen often? Should I be able to get my money back? What's the point of having 1 gb of storage if at any moment it disapears with all your info on?!

when it happent with the CF card for the camera it was 100% dead and all data was lost
of cause i cant say for sure if it could be saved or not
but no money was thrown after the project
i mean when soo much time have passed who care who was firing the shots from the grassy nole
and to answer you other question then no it should be pretty rare
that a flash card die seen tests where they put a cam on a bridge and blew it up and found the flash card and it still worked
and also this
http://news.com.com/Lost+at+sea,+found+in+flash+-+page+2/2100-1041_3-5780047-2.html?tag=st.num
but i would try some different SD readers before writting it off as dead
i had exp with some sd readers which sucked
and others my own sandisk 8-1 flash reader had no issues reading the card

That's the route I'm trying, installing card reader on pc.
Cheers.
Expect a post in the near future "SD Card reader not working on XDA IIi"
:twisted:

I am also currently in the same soup. Whe I let the xda2 format the sd, it works alright in xda storing files etc, but not recognised by laptop and it also asks to format it.
Victor

I am giving up on my card. As it was only 2 days old I am returning it and hoping for a replacement. My friend has sent his XDA II back to O2 as it has destroyed 3 SD cards within the space of two weeks. All different makes. My card was a new 512MB high speed card. I had been using an older Sandisk 256MB card with no problems for several months and decided to upgrade. I will try another card that I have - Sandisk 512MB (slow card) and see if that is OK.
O2 have said that this is not a known problem!!! What do they know???

O2 also gave me the same reply!
Idiots.
Their solution was "Take it to a store, and an engineer will look at it"
Yeah right, you mean a dummy who is trained to follow a 10 stage analysis process and tell you at the end "Sorry, I don't know what the problem is, shall we send it back to HTC for analysis?"
My guess is that the handset is not negotiating the operating voltage correctly, and is frying certain cards.
My 512MB + 1GB Toshiba cards fried within 2 weeks of new.
My 256MB Kingston is still going strong after 9 months (touch wood!)
Now almost 90 quid down the drain, and I'm going to try O2 as a last resort!
(Might print this forum too

This has been happening quite a lot recently. I made a post regarding the same happening to my 512mb Kingston card here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25566
Somewhere in that thread are links to THREE other recent threads regarding fried SD cards. I think there is a hardware fault in the device...

Anyway, I seem to remember the seller boasting about some warranty on their site, so I'm going to try to return it...

I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!

mmm_ok said:
I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!
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I just had 2 SD cards blow up, a Viking 1GB card and a PNY 512 Mb card. Who is your supplier?

What speed SD for the Universal?

I havent looked too deeply into this, preferring to ask like .. So please don't eat me.
Its late and all ..
I'm wondering what speed the SD card reader in the Universal is?
Is it worth spending a little extra on some 60x Corsair SD cards or should I just get the bargain bin stuff since the Universal maybe doesnt have a particularly quick card reader?
Any advice welcome. I plan to use this is a system disk with seperate 512 card for my MP3's and pod casts/documents. THAT will be cheap stuff.
But for the main I need a 1gb system disk for storing apps and system stuff.

Compared to a dedicated USB card reader for the PC, the Universal is extremely slow - I have tested this with my 150X 2GB SD card. So unless you plan on using it with a PC card reader, it doesn't really matter
Accessing the SD card through activesync was at least 10 times slower than the card reader...

I did a small test with Pocket Mechanic.
1. My "normal" 2 GB sandisk gives 0.84MB/sec
2. My super duper Extreme III Sandisk 1 GB gives me a whopping 0.88MB sec.
Nr . 2 card, in my portable, writes files much, much faster than nr.1.
You can see however that in my Jasjar the difference is nearly zero.
I would say: go for the cheapest, but I am not a great technician.
Huib

Thanks guys ..
Very informative and will help me get the right card. ie. the cheapest!
-Gubbs

Hi
I have not noticed any difference between a basic Sandisk card and a so called 66x KingMax card when used in the exec.
I do notice a difference between these two cards when using them with my digicam - the multishot mode (2 frames/sec) actually works cause the camera is able to write to the card quickly enough. With the slow card, cam kept pausing to write its cache onto the card.
I am not sure that pocket mechanic tells the truth! Likewise, timing a copy from the internal flash to an SD card is not gonna give accurate results (speed of internal flash may be bottleneck). On Wm2003 devices this was possible cause RAM is loads faster than flash still.
You cant test the speed of the SD reader in the exec over activesync tho!! Its a USB 1.1 device (max 11Mbit) and on top of that activesync treats it as a 10Mbit network card. Max you'll see after overheads is thus around 1MByte/sec
Nigel

veletron said:
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You cant test the speed of the SD reader in the exec over activesync tho!! Its a USB 1.1 device (max 11Mbit) and on top of that activesync treats it as a 10Mbit network card. Max you'll see after overheads is thus around 1MByte/sec
Nigel
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Certainly much better to do it that way.
Huib

ok i m having problem to decide as well...
anyone has a more concrete data about this ?
i m thinking whether to choose a normal 66x or 133x ...
getting 2gb sd card.. either transcend or pretec...
by the way exec sd slot is 1.01 or 1.1 specification?
hope someone has a benchmark to share.. thanks

1gb Scandisk does the job for me.
Watched a movie on it the other night, perfect. Plenty fast enough.
Its HTC so you can be assured it will be genius design with cheap crap chipset.
Bit like an Italian sportscar.

get one of those sd-usb card combo's....if u can find one going at a decent price.
saves the hassle of card readers. the LAST thing anyone needs is yet another wire lol

Memory card problem

Hello everybody,
I just bought a Kingston 2GB MicroSD with miniSD and Sd converters. It doesn't work on my MDA Vario. I tried with 1GB microsd and there was no problem. Then i tried the 2GB card on my Charmer and it read it in a blink. I formatted the card numerous times and the vario can't read it. So I'm out of options now.
The first time I used the 2Gb card the vario read it and then i copied some files with a card reader (under Ubuntu 8.04), and then it stopped reading it
Can you guys think of something that can fix the card?

had the same problem
i also had the same problem with my 8125 and i did a lot of things to it like yourself.
but the only thing that got it fixed was to flash a rom back to my 8125. so i flash the same rom i had and my sd card worked like a charm.
i hope i have helped.

I have had a lot of trouble with memory cards in my Wizard. Sometimes they're read, and sometimes they're not. And some never read. Very frustrating! You can keep trying to insert and remove it; once it a while it will appear. But once it sees it, it doesn't "lose" it, so I'm always very reluctant to eject a memory card. I've got a 1GB micro-SD in a converter and it works most of the time. I wish I knew why it was so flaky.

Considering the sheer number of posts like these that I've seen, I'm inclined to think that the Wizard just has a crappy card reader. It's a shame, but then again, it's also a pretty old phone, by current standards (18 months is obsolete in phone lifespans).

Thanks for the responses!
I have an update.
I made a hard reset - nothing. Then I flashed the latest TNT WM6.1 ROM - still nothing.
Card isn't working (actually it is but only with power off/power on), although my Charmer still reads it. I made several low level formats, and formatted it with the charmer. Nothing happened. So i tried a friends 2G Kingston MiniSD. It works without any problems. Still he said he had some issues so he removes it only when the device is off. However this is not acceptable for me and i'm now using 1Gb microSD with adapter.
The thing that really bugs me is that the Charmer reads it with no problems. The hardware in the charmer is pretty much the same besides the SD slot and lack of wifi.
I would suggest that you don't use your card with ubuntu 8.04 + card reader. It killed my SD card once (on the Charmer) and i lost some information.
My guess is that the wizard has some problems with 2GB cards. As I know some SD card readers can't read 2G, because it was never intended for the SD standard to have such big cards. For this I would suggest that if you have any problems turn off the device put the card and power it on. It should see it then. I can't recall which FAT i used for format, i think it was fat32. I think the wizard runs a bit slower with the 2G, but it could be my imagination.
Until I can solve this problem with not seeing the card when it is plugged while the device is on I'm sticking to 1G.

Is your 2GB card SD, or is it SDHC?
SDHC cannot be read by HTC Wizard, period. There have been a few card makers that actually produce 4GB mini SDs, but they number in single digits (and low, at that). Generally, you can find 2GB miniSDs without too much hassle. I'd be very surprised to find a microSD over 2GB. If your microSD is SDHC, there's your problem, right there.
Also, the general consensus from these boards is that your SD card should be formatted to FAT, not FAT32, to be read by a Wizard consistently. It'll still be readable by other machines, but your Wizard will balk at reading FAT32 (not all the time, but most of the time).
Lastly, never bother trying to use your phone as a USB card reader. It's just way too slow. If you have a card reader, stick to loading/unloading with that.
And turning off the phone to jack in/out the miniSD is a very good idea. It may not be an ideal situation, but losing your data while you're away from your desktop isn't exactly optimal, either, is it?

It is SD, not SDHC. Kingston MicroSd with adapter, actually the one with 2 adapters.
I got the thing with the FAT, not FAT32, after I wrote the post, I formatted it using FAT.
The card reader and Ubuntu of course wrecked the 1Gb card I'm using (yesterday) - the wreck with the strange named dirs, so only Windows+card reader for now.
I don't care about the data on the card, it's not important (and I have a backup on the desktop). I would like to be able to put it in and out whenever I like, with the device on. It seems that this won't happen.
Thanks for the great input Myrddin Wyllt!

[Q] Copy error to storage card

Using an HD mini, latest ROM 1.36.401.1 fitted with a 32GB memory card.
Phone syncs fine and I can copy files to the storage card using activesync but as this is very slow with larger files I've tried to use the disk drive mode.
Problem is that the file starts to copy and after a few minutes of transfer I get the error message "The Parameter is incorrect" After this I have to disconnect the phone and reconnect to be able to try again.
It was one of the reasons I bought the phone and added the memory was to be able to load on some video to watch. I use it for music files and sysnc these using media monkey with no problems at all.
Any idea's....?
I checked the HTC site but found nothing, I've also formatted the card in the phone in case it didn't like it being formatted in the PC.

I use a Sandisk 8GB Class 2 SDHC card, never experienced that kind of problem. But I have to say I never tried any files larger than around 1 GB.
What brand do you have? And how big are the files?

The card is unbranded and the video files are 80 - 170MB. I have some other cards so I can try one of them to see if this fixes the issue.

might be the usb data cable ,have you tryed another microusb cable ? or try to load files to microsd using sd-(usb)adapter and see if you still have this error

I tried another cable but the same thing. I've also tried a 1GB Sandisk card as well and that runs with no problems. This unbranded card claims SDHC but maybe it's not high enough quality for the HTC. Wouldn't be the first time a product rejects a certain media.
I've actually just ordered a new Sandisk 16GB class 4 card to try that one out. Should have it early next week and will report back what happens.

Ok, I think if you run a checkdisk on the 32GB card it will report errors. It could be a cheap clone from China, which are known to have quality issues.

Roy_S said:
I tried another cable but the same thing. I've also tried a 1GB Sandisk card as well and that runs with no problems. This unbranded card claims SDHC but maybe it's not high enough quality for the HTC. Wouldn't be the first time a product rejects a certain media.
I've actually just ordered a new Sandisk 16GB class 4 card to try that one out. Should have it early next week and will report back what happens.
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hi
where did u order sandisk card from?

MobileMini said:
Ok, I think if you run a checkdisk on the 32GB card it will report errors. It could be a cheap clone from China, which are known to have quality issues.
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When I tried it in the PC it ran with no problems it was just in the phone that I had problems.

tzacapaca said:
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where did u order sandisk card from?
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Ordered from eBay but a supplier that sells them in original packaging plus gives a guarantee that they are originals.

So received a new 16GB card today, fitted to the phone, copied over some files, so far so good. But then TCPMP would not read the video files saying the MP3 codec is invalid and the other thing I notice is that the storage card is now called Card2. In explorer from the PC it shows two storage cards as:-
Storage card
Storage card2
I seem to be going backwards, powered the phone off/on numerous times, also with the card removed, reformated the card but can't stop it from seeing the card as card2.
Getting so pi$$ed off with this now.

OK a quick update, I fitted the original 1GB card, the phone recognised this as the first storage card and the card2 reference disappeared. I fitted the new 16GB one and all back to normal no card2 issue.
What I don't understand is how it happened and what changed it back. As I intend to load TomTom onto the card the last thing I want is this happening again in the middle of driving.

Never heard of this problem before. Can't think of a cause, maybe something with partitions on your SD card?