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1Gb SD card - does XDA II support it?

Does it?
Thanx

Igb Card Support
Yes I am using a San Disk Igig card for GPS Maps with no problem.

great ! thanx......

...and I use one for movies!

1 gb
i use it for my MP3s and movies as well.

what about high-speed x60 1G SD card ?
faster then normal speed ?

i'm using 1gig 60x pqi sd card. oftentimes it works. problems encountered: xda2 can't detect the sd card. never done the 3x format yet.

you won't see much in terms of speed in PPC. all these fast speed SD is meant for digital camera & video actually.

I have a 1Gig card by 'Integral' that claims to be high speed. I was having some problems running gps mapping etc from it, though for mp3's and videos it was fine.
I have now bought a 512 SanDisk Ultra 2 card and Tom Tom is much better with this card. Using a multiple file read/write test to copy from the card to itself, the new Sandisk card is significantly quicker, and Tom Tom runs/opens much better than it did with the 1Gig card. So higher speed cards do show an improvement, though not as much as when they are in a device that can take full advantage of the card, like a PC card reader for instance.

I have a x66 PQI 1Gb SD card that I run TomTom3, MP3's and store presentations on. I have had no problems with this card at all. The higher speed of the card does make difference and improves the performance to both the applications and the speed at which data is copied to the card (not using hotsync).

Ive found that some really cheap SD cards have loads of problems.
I bought a cheap card and it was terrible, kept not working, corrupting files etc. I swapped for a 1gig Sandisk, all is well, no problems at all.
I found that the 32meg NOKIA cards given with most new nokia phones a year or so ago dont work. They are totally unreliable.
You get what you pay for, the faster cards are normally more expensive, and ive noticed the difference when copying big files from ram to card.
Get the better cards, its worth it in the long run.

SD card speed with Pocket Mechanic

I have a new Jasjar and the package came with a 2GB SD card. The supplier tells me it should be a 60x card but in Pocket Machanic the benchmark says it is 4x on read and just 0.2x on write.
This is my one and only SD card so I have no others to compare. Is it possible Pocket Mechanic uses a different measurement method and that program just gives low figures for all SD cards? Or is my card really a slow one?
Can someone with PM give me some benchmark figures for their SD card so I know whether I have a slow card or not.
And should I expect a 2GB card to perform more slowly than say a 1GB card?

On my Exec using a 4GB 150X Transcend card, I'm only getting 0.7MB/s read and 0.2MB/s write (benchmarked by PocketMechanic)
Like in most other PPCs and PPCPEs, the SDIO interface is low speed so no matter how fast your SD card can run, you'll be limited to the speeds of the SDIO interface on your Universal.

Good observation O2. Actually I find it a bit surprising the Universal would have a slower than normal SDIO interface. After all it is just about the most expensive (if not THE most expensive) PDA/phone available. I guess I expected better - er, if that really is the cause of our slow SD card performance.

Storage Card

I have just purchased a Sanddisk ultra ll 1.0gb storage card.
It works fine in my digital camera but when inserted into my spv m600 the device wont recognise it.
Is there a storage card limitation with the prophet and if so is there a way round it ?

I have similar problem with SD card Transcend 2 Gb x150. When I got 2 Gb TwinMOS x66 problem disappeared. I think the problem is the too high speed of card. Probably they can’t work at speed which is sufficient for Prophet.

Card problem?
Anybody else had sucess with the Transcend 2gb card x150? I was thinking of purchasing the 4gb version, at same speed, but now I'm not sure I want to waste my money.
Anybody else have a 4gig, can you name brand and speed pls?

I have used both the sandisk 1gb ultra II card and the sandisk 2 gb. Both work fine in my I-mate jamin. The ultra II is much faster, but i mostly use the 2gb card, cause I need more space. If they had a 2gb or 4 gb ultra II i would buy it also...I have also used the PNY 2 gb cards. They all work in my jasjar as well. But like i said, the ultra II works best.
You might need to re-format the card and then try it (not with the camera format option, but from the Jamin)
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Thanks eagle1
That's good news Eagle. What are the speeds of your two SD cards?
Anybody use a 4 gig non-sandisk card?

I'm using a Trandcend 150xSD 4 GB and it works great.

i am using an sandisk extreme III (150x) 1 GB and works great

Still no card showing
Thanks people for your posts and advice i have tried a few things including pocket mechanic but still have not managed to get my prophet to accept the Sandisk Ultra ll 1.0gb sd card.
If anyone comes up with a soloution or indeed has a SPV M600 with a working Sandisk Ultra ll 1.0gb please let me know.
Just off to e-mail Sandisk to see if they can help.
Thanks again for your posts.

It seems that high speed SD cards workability balanced on the edge with Prophet PDA’s. So best approach would be Try – Before – Buy. “Minor” problem would be to find store where this approach works for SD cards .

Has anyone tried A-Data 4gb 150x?
Has anyone tried A-Data 4gb 150x? I think this is the cheapest 4GB card out there, so I'm wondering if anyone has tried it on the prophet?

I have just started using a 4GB 'Topram 150x'. Seems to work OK, except can't directly save photos to the SD card. According to other posts, something to do with having more than 2GB of empty memory. However, can transfer photos from main memory to the SD card without any problems. Music and videos appear to store and play back without any problems

SD CARD NOW UP FOR SALE
Still no joy with my new sd card so decided to put it on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7612649443&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:UK:11
Had a word with the staff in the local pc world to let me try before i buy but no go, they said they would not give me my money back either unless the card was faulty. Not that i would buy one from there with the price they charge.
Will keep you all posted on what card i get to work with my SPV M600.

I'm confused
I'm really confused. How can it be that a particular Sandisk 150x speed works, and another one doesn't? Or one 4gb high-speed works, the other doesn't? I can't seem to find a pattern here. Its just random.

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krale said:
... I can't seem to find a pattern here. Its just random.
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My guess is the low speed threshold for high speed SD card actually randomly higher than the normal operation for Prophet hardware. In this case two high speed SD cards which are same type of same manufacture may have randomly different low speed threshold, what is out of concerns of manufacturer. Who would cares about low speed access ability? And now we have to go through risk of buying perfectly good SD card which may not work on our Prophet devices. I hate this.

Hi,
I'm using an Extrememory 2 GB and 4 GB SD-Card. No problems with my Jam aka Magician or XDA Neo aka Prophet.
andilein

pbeaco said:
can't directly save photos to the SD card. According to other posts, something to do with having more than 2GB of empty memory. However, can transfer photos from main memory to the SD card without any problems. Music and videos appear to store and play back without any problems
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I think the new ROMs have fixed that.

adeywatkins said:
I have just purchased a Sanddisk ultra ll 1.0gb storage card.
It works fine in my digital camera but when inserted into my spv m600 the device wont recognise it.
Is there a storage card limitation with the prophet and if so is there a way round it ?
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Ade,
You sure say no be old ROM you dey use?

Hi again here is my SPV M600 AKA Prophet Device info
ROM VERSION 2.10.1.22 WWE
ROM DATE 2/16/06
RADIO 02.07.20
PROTCOL 413.1.03
EXT 2.10.1.107
OPERATOR VERSION 13.10.1.107

Storage CardJ
Just found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7611242138 works out just under £60 for adata 4gb 200x MMC card which apparently has better compatibility.

I upgraded the ROM and I can now save my photos directly to the SD card as long as the picture resolution is 640 x 480 or less. For the higher resoltion photos I have to save to main memory. Can anyone make any sense of this?
Otherwise I am having no problems with the SD card. I am not about to go and buy another one, so I will just use my workaround of saving no main memory and copying to rthe SD card when memory is low.

4GB SD memory for XDA Exec (Universal)

Hello
do you guys know if a 4 GB SD Card will work with the Universal. I saw in one of the signatures that people are using 2GB SD Cards, was wondering what is the upper limit?

I have an AData 4GB card purchased from some dodgy geezer in Hong Kong via eBay - it works perfectly. So go ahead and get yourself one

I've got transcend 4GB SD 150x works good

I've got a MyFlash 4GB card,
works perfectly

sl9 said:
I have an AData 4GB card purchased from some dodgy geezer in Hong Kong via eBay - it works perfectly. So go ahead and get yourself one
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Me too

noname 'My Flash' 4GB 200x turbo MMCplus works too.

phsnake said:
I've got transcend 4GB SD 150x works good
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same here.

not good
I will works fine but after you rich the maximum data with combination of software, you can encounter slow moving of any application hanging more often than usual and it will eat your battery 4x faster than normal consumption. :?

The speed of the card doesnt make much of a difference when using the it in the PPC. But you will notice the 150x SD card in a card reader for on the computer. Speeds of read and and write will be really fast, but it has no effect on PPC speeds, the PPC can only go so fast.

iv got a 150x transcend in mine working fine, well iv used it for about 4 months now, it does however have some slight issues with the camera...
before you can save images direct to the card you must have less than 2GB of space left on the card as the camera prog does not recognise anything more than 2gig, so if you try an take a pic with an empty 4gig card it will fail (unless you set images to save direct onto phone)
1 other problem i have encountered, i dont know whethere this was down to the camera, the phone or the card but, when i was away on holiday, i had around 2.5gb of audio and was using the camera a fair bit on my travells, then 1 day when i took a pic it overwrote (is that a word?) :lol: everything on my card!!! when i went into my storage space it said that the card still had 3gb taken up on card but when i went onto file explorer there would be nothing left showing on the card other than images i had taken since :roll: bit of a pain in the ass but it hasnt done me any wrong since then, still filling it with lots of audio/txt/images and no more problems (touch wood)

i had this experience with a 1GB sandisk card. I think it happens when a read or write to the SD card fails or doesn't finish [not sure here], happened twice the 1st instance I was able to use the SD card again [reformatted it with a camera, then again using Resco Explorer on the PPC] the 2nd time it happened the card was dead. Right now I am using a 1GB miniSD [in the adapter of course] which I bought for my ex-PPC [a Wizard] I plan to get a 4Gb SD card as well. If the speed of the card is only really noticeable with card readers then I'm ok with that [as I transfer songs and such via my notebook's in built card reader]. Hmm time to go SD card hunting over the weekend!!! Wonder what I'll do with the miniSD though... I have a 1Gb card in my digicam as well, maybe I can pass that off to my lil sis or something... :roll:

Ive just bought "Platinum" 4GB. It cost me 82$, here in Poland.
Universal report it have just 3,56GB but it is working as expected. Ive benchhmarked it in pocket mechanic - index:122
best reg,
Piotr

I got a Transcend 4Gb 150x SD Card [Part No.: TS4GSD150]. For around 88USD. It is reported as 3.86Gb under Resco Explorer.

I bought a MobyMemory 4Gb card from, suprise suprise, www.mobymemory.co.uk. Almost certainly rebadged from somewhere else but I though it was a good price at under £50 and works fine on my XDA Exec. They also throw in a free SD reader as some readers have trouble with 4Gb SD cards. I had to reformat the SD card under Windows XP for it to be seen by both the Exec and Win XP (as shipped, only the Exec could read the card).
Have the wiki and tomeraider on there - great for being a smartarse down the pub.

sl9 said:
I have an AData 4GB card purchased from some dodgy geezer in Hong Kong via eBay - it works perfectly. So go ahead and get yourself one
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I've just ordered one for a total of 37 quid

Hi guys,I am new here .
I am wondering if anyone has tried the new 8GB SD card on the Universal? dose it works?
BTW,My hx4700 which is 2004's unit and it works perfectly with the 8GB CF card. so...the new HCSD card will be working too?
I am using the ADATA 4GB 150X card too,it will take at least 12seconds :shock: to boot the phone pad once I press the CALL button in device shut down mode,is that normal?
thanks,
best.
-LB

SDHC will not work on old and current devices IIRC it needs a special SDHC capable SD slot for it to work with the newer cards. Dunno when SDHC will come to mobile devices though as I fear that the trend is that manufacturer's are moving towards transflash [aka microSD] and miniSD.

my 4GB main SD card worked so well, i bought 4 more to encode movies on
now i need a better DVD ripper Wondershare pocket DVD stupid is too quirky. can't rip some DVDs, sometime frame seqences willl repeat dejavu...

bnycastro said:
SDHC will not work on old and current devices IIRC it needs a special SDHC capable SD slot for it to work with the newer cards. Dunno when SDHC will come to mobile devices though as I fear that the trend is that manufacturer's are moving towards transflash [aka microSD] and miniSD.
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Thanks for the info bny,
that's a good news for my wallet ....

I've got a Goodram 4GB (x150) card, from Wilk S.A -Poland
works perfectly

Very slow writing speed on microSDHC card

Happy new year guys. I bought two microsd cards. One is a PQI 2GB microSD card for flashing. Another one is a Ridata 4GB microSDHC card for everyday stuff, with a speed class of 6. I don't know the class of the PQI.
I noticed that when copying files from the pc, or when just copy pasting files within the Hermes, the writing speed is very slow. For both cards, the PQI and Ritek, they're around 400 kB/s to 600 kB/s. I used both WM5torage and activesync and they're both this slow. Even for a class 2 card, such speeds are slow. I RMAed the PQI one due to CRC errors when copying. The Ridata has no errors but is still very slow.
I searched the forums and installed the SD tuneup.cab file, restarted the Hermes and its still the same writing speed, around 400kB/s. I used the microsdhc in a card reader in a pc and it writes at 6 MB/s. What could be wrong, why such a writing speed difference? I have red about posters with writing speeds as much as 9MB/s with their phones in the Hermes accessories forum.
The specs of my phone are:
Cingular 8525 Hermes 100
PDACornerPro.V27
Radio 1.56
HardSPL v7
Ridata 4GB microsdhc class 6
Any suggestions, comments? Thanks.

Mate, join the club... I don't really believe that when connected through activesync you will get very fast speed copying. Its ALWAYS been slow as a stoned snail when copying through the phone. sd card readers move like lightening in comparison.
Don't believe you're gonna find an answer to the slow speed problem.
Cheers...

You mean from the very start till now, the Hermes really writes slowly? But some people on the Hermes accessories forum have write speeds up to 9MB/s. Maybe there is a fix/tweak somewhere I don't know about and still not able to find through searching? Any ideas? Thanks.

I've never found it. Most threads I've read about this issue are lamenting the fact it has such a slow read/write speed when connected through activesync.
I generally backup and transfer files through an sd card reader.
Cheers...

Thanks for the reply. Maybe I'll just use a card reader to save time. But those folks at "What brand SDHC card is everyone using?" thread have speeds up to 9MB/s when writing. Aren't they using the Hermes? Or they're using a card reader?

Probably a card reader. They may also be talking about when transfering files to/from sd card when using the Hermes's own file manager as that is fairly fast. I use a class 6 8Gb card for reading Tomtom maps and there is no lag, had a bit previously with a 2Gb card.
I believe the hangup is in microsoft's active sync program. No0t sure about those using vista's own transfer app.
Cheers...

ultramag69 said:
Mate, join the club... I don't really believe that when connected through activesync you will get very fast speed copying. ...
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Actually, Activesync can be fast.
Activesync on an XP machine copying to my Herm100 is quite slow, a card reader is much better, but the same Activesync copied to the latest HTC (don't know the model) slidey keyboard phone's internal memory in comparatively lightening speed.
So is there different configurations or drivers for the USB connections on our phones and/or ROMS ?
G.

As you said
Ogier said:
Activesync copied to the latest HTC (don't know the model) slidey keyboard phone's internal memory in comparatively lightening speed.
G.
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Maybe something in the hardware of the newer phones because if it was software, since the chefs use the ported os of the later devices, we should also be getting better speeds if we had updated the OS. I'm currently using build 21109 and I haven't noticed a speed increases...

Thanks for the replies guys. I think its really the hardware of the Hermes that is slow. I bought a cheap $1 card reader and its very fast compared to the Hermes' own card reader. I used Sisoftware sandra to bench my cards. My RMAed 2GB PQI card writes at around 6.5 MB/s while my Ridata 4GB card writes at around 5.4 MB/s. What a difference a dollar makes