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SD Card Issues...

I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
T-Mobile support is ...chocolate teapot comes to mind!
Out of the box rom: 1.01.00 WWE (21/10/04)
Has anyone got any ideas about this one (greatly appreciated)
Regards
Paul

I don't know that I can comment on your specific problem, as I have a cheap 1GB SD card that works without issues. Your ROM seems to be really old, however, and you would benefit tremendously by upgrading to the 1.11 or 1.12 versions (1.11 is extremely stable and seems to be a crowd favorite). I don't know if it will resolve your SD issues, but it should at least improve other aspects of the phone. (stability, call quality, bluetooth functionality, and camera quality)

Little Survey...
Okay...i've upgraded my rom to the imate Jam 1.12 from club imate site on my MDA Compact to see if the SD card problem goes away....NO it doesn't. This is really frustrating...and the JAM rom is not as good as the tmobile one with periodic slow downs and already one reset.
Anyway folks, I want to see if I can get some correllation with rom and SD cards. So a mini survey for you all. If you have a T-mobile (originally) MDA compact and use an SD card let me know:
Current ROM Make?
Current ROM Version?
SD Card Make/Model/Capacity?
Any problems with other SD cards?
I will publish a summary for everyone later.
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sd card
i don't have a tmobile compact,
rather a qtec s100, although I got a TMobile manual in my box..
anyway, i have a 2gb 150x speed ADATA SD Card and I have exactly the same problem. If you browse this forum you will see there is one or two more other topics about the exact same issue.. dont think its anything to do with a specific vendor pda i.e. o2 / tmobile.... but rather a jam thing.
I don't think they currently recognise the latest sd cards, although, i've been told they do recognise the 2gb ultra disk from moby memory retailing at about £133.
So, we can either wait for the ROM upgrade to include the latest stuff, or swap or sell the cards and buy another one.. i'm probably doing the latter to be honest as i just cant wait.
ANyway, if you do find the problem, please let me know.
Regards,
Bushmen

Current ROM; Original T-Mobile
Other details in sig.
Have SanDisk SD 512mb, 100% fine from day one till now.

They don't seem to recognise the 2gb Moby SD...because that was my initial purchase. Then I downgraded to the 1gb. They are going to send me another 1gb from a different manufacturer. Moby are having a few of these problems cropping up.
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2 Gb GB SD doesnt works but 2GB MMC works fine... :?

MDA & SD CARD
Original MDA ROM & Radio V1.12
Bytestor 2 x 1gb hi-speed cards, no problems 100% perfect.
256mb Kingston card, today, no problems so far.

transend 1gb high speed no prob
old twin mos 256 mb card had same problem with you. but after i fomatted it with an external card reader and windows, worked perfectly. (this was used for a digital camera before)
hope this helps

PJS said:
I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
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Do the cards work fine in a PC card reader?
Does "formatting" on the MDA cause the card to be unreadable on the PC (until you reformat it on the PC)?
If so, these are the exact symptoms found on some early Magicians. If the card works in a PC, then it's a fault on the Jam/MDA, not the card, although the fault does vary by card brand. If you don't get the MDA swapped out, you could end up with it randomly wiping your card. See http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM&thread=153
If you don't have a PC card reader to test - get one (make sure it's USB2). Life is not long enough to transfer 2GB by activesync!

Imate Jam
My cards:
Apacer 1gb-no problems
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
Sandisk 1gb (regular)-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.

Matterhorn said:
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.
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I can confirm, it works on my HTC Magician too, formated with Fat32 on my PC and pluged into the Magician and have full capacity available! Already filled up with 1.4GB of data (TomTom Maps mostly) Really seems the only 2GB SD card working on the Magician :roll:

See my posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24988&highlight=2gb+sd

1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
Works fine on PC Card reader. But shows prompt for "Format" on MDA. When formatted, it does not show in File Explorer, but About Box says explansion slot in use. This card works fine on my Orange SPV (1st model).
I am trying for 512MB 60x speed Toshiba card.

Transcend 4Gig works on Jam - WITH SHIM
The JAM is famous for having innaccurate "travel" in its SD contact mechanical design. SD cards that are not thick enough will give this symptom. The fix is to add a "shim" of plastic or paper to the contact side of the SD card.
I use the sticky part of a PostIt note. Cover the entire card area except the contacts at the bottom. Contact side only. The Transcend 4 gig card is too thin, but adding the trusty PostIt fix now allows me to use this huge ($100) card with no problems. Hope this hack fixes your SD issues too - chuse...

SD Cards??? Which one should I choose?

I just returned my 4GB Transcend SD Card. Why? First, it does not fit well on my Exec, unlike the San Disk SD Cards (dark blue color), the Transcend 4GB seem to get stuck a bit. So I definitely does not recommend the Transcend ones. This is based on my personal experience, may be someone can contest or confirm this for me would be nice. Second, my Exec refuses to store the pictures I have taken on the Transcend 4GB card. Third, my computer refuses to read nor reformat the Transcend 4GB SD card. Thus making it usesless even to my computer. AHHHHH! Now I have to start from scratch and install everything as soon as I get a new card.
Can anyone recommend which should I buy for my Exec? I saw a 2GB San Disk SD Card II Ultra (black color) and a 2GB San Disk SD Card (dark blue color). Which of one of these two should I choose? I know that the Ultra is a bit faster than the regular San Disk (dark blue), but is it compatible? I was also hoping that San Disk has a 4GB card, but I have not seen one, even on the net.

@cktlcmd
I am as fustrated as you. I have a 2GB card from a UK supplier call My Memory and it worked really well in my Plam but on my Exec I have all sorts of problems with MS Reader and eBooks. I know the SD card is to blame because if I store my eBooks in main memory I don't have problems with MS Reader.
Someone with more technical knowledge - I thought all SD cards were supposed to be the same? What makes them different (besides speed of read/write)?

jah said:
@cktlcmd
I am as fustrated as you.
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I just performed a hard reset and been using my Exec as it came from the box running Corporate version (0506) with nothing installed. I am as frustrated as you are. The transcend card 4GB was allowing me to store and run applications on it, but when I tried taking pictures and wanted to store it on the card, it refuses to do so. Luckily I tried it before even going pass the 30 day limit for returns. I would have kept it, but my computer can't read it as well.

I've got a Transcend 4GB card. It works perfectly and I have not experienced the problems you have stated.
Maybe you had a faulty one ?

LinuxGeek said:
I've got a Transcend 4GB card. It works perfectly and I have not experienced the problems you have stated.
Maybe you had a faulty one ?
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Does it fit nicely? The one I returned seemed to be a bit tight. It takes about a second after pressing on it to be automatically ejected, unlike the San Disk ones. On my computer, I have to pull it out manually after pressing on it.
Have you taken pictures using the built-in camera? Does it allow you to store it on the card?

Yes, it fits perfectly no trouble at all.
I have set my XDA EXEC to store pictures and videos on the SD card. It does it without problem !

I have A-Data 4gb 150x and it works fine in M5000 apart from camera will not save direct on to it.

Guys - how fast are these cards in reality?
Can you run Pocket Mechanic and choose the Card benchmark option and run a read test for me?

cktlcmd said:
Can anyone recommend which should I buy for my Exec? I saw a 2GB San Disk SD Card II Ultra (black color) and a 2GB San Disk SD Card (dark blue color). Which of one of these two should I choose? I know that the Ultra is a bit faster than the regular San Disk (dark blue), but is it compatible? I was also hoping that San Disk has a 4GB card, but I have not seen one, even on the net.
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I am using the 2GB Sandisk Ultra II with the MDA Pro (alias Exec). No issue, except the fact that my first one got corrupted. A faulty piece, not because of the MDA Pro. I got it replaced.

DT39 said:
I have A-Data 4gb 150x and it works fine in M5000 apart from camera will not save direct on to it.
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This was the same problem I had with the Transcend 4GB I returned.
simba said:
I am using the 2GB Sandisk Ultra II with the MDA Pro (alias Exec). No issue, except the fact that my first one got corrupted. A faulty piece, not because of the MDA Pro. I got it replaced.
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Glad to hear the 2GB San Disk Ultra II works.

I just bought the BLACK San Disk Ultra 2GB SD Card and IT WORKS GREAT! The camera application now lets me store the pictures on the card, unlike the 4GB Transcend that I returned.

i do not think that having Ultra or what will help within the Universal: i guess it does not have such a fast reader anyways. though it will be great if someone else can also confirm this. On the contrary, you DO want to be able to copy files (whether mp3 or movie) fast to it, so ultra *will help to have one :wink:
Pocket Mechanic, with 64variable block size, random access, says (for Kingston 512MB Elite - same as ultra)
0.71mb/s read
0.36mb/s write
note that Elite/Ultra probably has 7mb/s write (normal ones have ~1.4mb/s) and ~8mb/s read when connected to your PC's readers.

iMate Jas-Jar 2GB SD Card

I was looking to buy a memory card for my jas-jar and was surprised by this page on Kingston's site which says that it only supports 1GB maximum memory. Does anyone have a 2GB card here, anyone used it with their universal?
Kingston

I am using a 2Gb card no problems at all

could you tell me the company and other details of the SD card model etc?

I have a 150X 2GB ADATA SD CARD and works perfectly!! installed in an i-mate JASJAR. I bought it on ebay.

Same here, I am using a 2GB Sandisk Ultra (Black color) and no problems.

I'm Using 2GB Kingston ultimate X120 with no problem at all

Mine is 1 120x "hyper speed", "MAGU" brand card - works fine

I've read it working with a 4GB card also, worth googling to make sure.
Think I'll make that my next card if so, end of Jan.
On that point, it's ridiculous to think that my first hard drive was a massive 40MEGABYTE one in a 386 Amstrad.... here we are with something a hundred times that, the size of a postage stamp.
Madness, but GOOD madness....

My first SD card is a transcend 4GB card but I encountered problems with it. I can store and run applications normally on the 4GB card, but the camera application can't use the card as a means of storage. Thus off it went back for return. I bought the San Disk 2GB Ultra instead and never had any problems.

I can also confirm a working 2GB Ridata 150x SD working ok on my jasjar.
Had to reformat it on a pc the first time, tough, because straigth from the packaging, i only read 1gb capacity in the jasjar.
After formating, all's well!
Still, i didn't saw almost any speed increase...
I know that the device itself probably doesnt get to the top speed of the card, but...
Anyone else could post their toughts on what (if any) speed increases they had on their devices, as well as the cards brands and sizes?

4gb
mine's working fine with a 4gb transmedia card

Storage Card

I have just purchased a Sanddisk ultra ll 1.0gb storage card.
It works fine in my digital camera but when inserted into my spv m600 the device wont recognise it.
Is there a storage card limitation with the prophet and if so is there a way round it ?

I have similar problem with SD card Transcend 2 Gb x150. When I got 2 Gb TwinMOS x66 problem disappeared. I think the problem is the too high speed of card. Probably they can’t work at speed which is sufficient for Prophet.

Card problem?
Anybody else had sucess with the Transcend 2gb card x150? I was thinking of purchasing the 4gb version, at same speed, but now I'm not sure I want to waste my money.
Anybody else have a 4gig, can you name brand and speed pls?

I have used both the sandisk 1gb ultra II card and the sandisk 2 gb. Both work fine in my I-mate jamin. The ultra II is much faster, but i mostly use the 2gb card, cause I need more space. If they had a 2gb or 4 gb ultra II i would buy it also...I have also used the PNY 2 gb cards. They all work in my jasjar as well. But like i said, the ultra II works best.
You might need to re-format the card and then try it (not with the camera format option, but from the Jamin)
You can download a beta copy of pocket mechanic (good for 15 days without license) at www.antontomov.com go to forum and check pocket mechanic beta forum for latest version

Thanks eagle1
That's good news Eagle. What are the speeds of your two SD cards?
Anybody use a 4 gig non-sandisk card?

I'm using a Trandcend 150xSD 4 GB and it works great.

i am using an sandisk extreme III (150x) 1 GB and works great

Still no card showing
Thanks people for your posts and advice i have tried a few things including pocket mechanic but still have not managed to get my prophet to accept the Sandisk Ultra ll 1.0gb sd card.
If anyone comes up with a soloution or indeed has a SPV M600 with a working Sandisk Ultra ll 1.0gb please let me know.
Just off to e-mail Sandisk to see if they can help.
Thanks again for your posts.

It seems that high speed SD cards workability balanced on the edge with Prophet PDA’s. So best approach would be Try – Before – Buy. “Minor” problem would be to find store where this approach works for SD cards .

Has anyone tried A-Data 4gb 150x?
Has anyone tried A-Data 4gb 150x? I think this is the cheapest 4GB card out there, so I'm wondering if anyone has tried it on the prophet?

I have just started using a 4GB 'Topram 150x'. Seems to work OK, except can't directly save photos to the SD card. According to other posts, something to do with having more than 2GB of empty memory. However, can transfer photos from main memory to the SD card without any problems. Music and videos appear to store and play back without any problems

SD CARD NOW UP FOR SALE
Still no joy with my new sd card so decided to put it on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7612649443&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:UK:11
Had a word with the staff in the local pc world to let me try before i buy but no go, they said they would not give me my money back either unless the card was faulty. Not that i would buy one from there with the price they charge.
Will keep you all posted on what card i get to work with my SPV M600.

I'm confused
I'm really confused. How can it be that a particular Sandisk 150x speed works, and another one doesn't? Or one 4gb high-speed works, the other doesn't? I can't seem to find a pattern here. Its just random.

Re: I'm confused
krale said:
... I can't seem to find a pattern here. Its just random.
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My guess is the low speed threshold for high speed SD card actually randomly higher than the normal operation for Prophet hardware. In this case two high speed SD cards which are same type of same manufacture may have randomly different low speed threshold, what is out of concerns of manufacturer. Who would cares about low speed access ability? And now we have to go through risk of buying perfectly good SD card which may not work on our Prophet devices. I hate this.

Hi,
I'm using an Extrememory 2 GB and 4 GB SD-Card. No problems with my Jam aka Magician or XDA Neo aka Prophet.
andilein

pbeaco said:
can't directly save photos to the SD card. According to other posts, something to do with having more than 2GB of empty memory. However, can transfer photos from main memory to the SD card without any problems. Music and videos appear to store and play back without any problems
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I think the new ROMs have fixed that.

adeywatkins said:
I have just purchased a Sanddisk ultra ll 1.0gb storage card.
It works fine in my digital camera but when inserted into my spv m600 the device wont recognise it.
Is there a storage card limitation with the prophet and if so is there a way round it ?
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Ade,
You sure say no be old ROM you dey use?

Hi again here is my SPV M600 AKA Prophet Device info
ROM VERSION 2.10.1.22 WWE
ROM DATE 2/16/06
RADIO 02.07.20
PROTCOL 413.1.03
EXT 2.10.1.107
OPERATOR VERSION 13.10.1.107

Storage CardJ
Just found this on ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7611242138 works out just under £60 for adata 4gb 200x MMC card which apparently has better compatibility.

I upgraded the ROM and I can now save my photos directly to the SD card as long as the picture resolution is 640 x 480 or less. For the higher resoltion photos I have to save to main memory. Can anyone make any sense of this?
Otherwise I am having no problems with the SD card. I am not about to go and buy another one, so I will just use my workaround of saving no main memory and copying to rthe SD card when memory is low.

T-Mobile MDA(US) compatible with 4GB miniSD!

http://www.unityelectronics.com/product-product_id/3912
Success with this one out of the box!
No need to re-partition. Full size recognized by the MDA.
Currently running the following from the card, no issues:
1. TomTom Nav 6
2. Windows Live Search
3. Movies in avi format useing TCPMP
4. MP3s using Win Media Player and TCPMP
5. PIE cache on the card.
Currently have it loaded up to 3805.5MB, 179.5MB free, total 3985 MB as reported by settings/memory.
WM5 file explorer see all the files I have on the card.
Total commander also works fine with the card.
Now it is just a matter of seeing how long the card will KEEP working.

4Gb miniSD card is still working. No hiccups today!

Just wanted you to know that *someone* is watching! :lol:
Please keep updating on whether it continues to work.

rpodos said:
Just wanted you to know that *someone* is watching! :lol:
Please keep updating on whether it continues to work.
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I just look at the number of times the thread has been read!
I know some are watching.
Yes. Still working just fine today!

I have a 4GB card too. Got it off ebay. No problems with it to speak of. Had it for a few weeks. Have 2161.88 MB filled. 1711.53 Free. No problems with running stuff off it and playing music too.

When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?

When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?

biolover said:
When I want to buy a 4GB card, the saler told me that it better to use 2GB miniSD instead of 4GB miniSD in T-Mobile MDA. Because 4GB need more electric power. Do you find any problem on the battery life?
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I have not noticed a differnece.

4g
Wow!
I have found that on a 1gig chip I could pack 6 movies created with Pocket DVD.
12 on a 2 gig.
So a 4 gig would hold 24!
Or, you could fit 45 CDs and STILL fit a dozen movies and all your files.
I am VERY interested!....

What brand of 4 GB are you guys using? Thanks.

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What brand of 4 GB are you guys using? Thanks.
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See 1st post in this thread.

Warning! If your serial number starts with "HT604", it will probably NOT work. I have one of these cards (same place Mark got his) and it fails in my unit.
His works - his serial number starts with "HT606".
So there appears to be a HARDWARE difference - we are both running the same ROM!

Problem with 4GB miniSD
I have 2 TopRam 2 GB cards that work great - have never given me any problem.
So I got a 4 GB TopRam card. First day it worked fine - copied all files from my 2 GB card onto the 4 GB card with the card reader, it read fine in my 8125, showed almost 4 GB total capacity and over 2 GB free.
Then it suddenly quit being recognized. I thought I had a corrupt music file that caused the problem. I tried to reformat the card but it is now not recognized in my 8125, nor is it recognized in the card reader on my laptop, or in my digital camera. So I have no way to reformat it and try again. I tried the WM5torage trick posted elsewhere - it doesn't recognize the card either.
Any ideas? I know that 4 GB cards work in Wizards! But are they extremely finicky?
This is the second 4 GB card I've tried - the first was a Transcend SDHC and it was a bust from the get-go. But the TopRam seems like it should work, if I could just get it reformatted!

problem!
i just got my 4gb mini sd off ebay.
it is san disk brand.
i tried to format it with windows but windows wouldnt do FAT16.
so i formatted on my ppc and both my ppc and windows read only 1.89gb.
HELP!

My UnityElectronics 4GB is still working fine. I had some issues with PIE using the card for Cache, Temp Internet Files and Cookies. The MDA would keep reverting to phone memory for PIE instead of the 4 GB card. I went back to using Opera and have not had any other new issues.
I have my TomTomV6 1.4GB file on the 4 GB storage card and it worked flawlessly on my trip to PA last week.
I have also ordered the TOPRAM 4GB card and am waiting for it to arrive. Will be interesting to see if I run into the same problems others have had with the TOPRAM card.
Unfortunate that the SDHC card did not work. Over at HF there is a post that there is a dll and reg entries for SDHC. Wonder if it was just a bum card.
As for the TOPRAM card, have you contacted the ebay seller to inquire if he has heard of other similar issues? Sounds like it is no really populated with the full set of memory chips for 4GB. I ran into something similar last year with a card supposedly manufactured by NCP. Turned out to be a fraud. I contacted NCP in Singapore and they indicated that they did not make a 4GB card.
Have you tried TOPRAM directly to see if they have any suggestions?
http://www.topram.com/contact.htm
Interesting that their website shows the 4GB card but it is not on the miniSD page.??????
Will le you know how I make out the TOPRAM.

http://stores.ebay.com/MOBILEMEM_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
My MDA serial is HT621 and all works fine.

supastarv said:
http://stores.ebay.com/MOBILEMEM_W0QQsspagenameZL2QQtZkm
My MDA serial is HT621 and all works fine.
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The TOMRAM 4GB card?

Genesis3 said:
Warning! If your serial number starts with "HT604", it will probably NOT work. I have one of these cards (same place Mark got his) and it fails in my unit.
His works - his serial number starts with "HT606".
So there appears to be a HARDWARE difference - we are both running the same ROM!
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Where would I find this information...in the phone information or under the battery?

Shawner said:
Where would I find this information...in the phone information or under the battery?
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The only place I could find it was on the outside of the box the MDA was shipped in. You DID keep yours, didn't you?
Seriously, I have not found it on the phone anywhere.

Of course I kept mine. I have never thrown away any cell phone boxes.
Mine is HT 618...hopefully it will work.