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SD Card Issues...

I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
T-Mobile support is ...chocolate teapot comes to mind!
Out of the box rom: 1.01.00 WWE (21/10/04)
Has anyone got any ideas about this one (greatly appreciated)
Regards
Paul

I don't know that I can comment on your specific problem, as I have a cheap 1GB SD card that works without issues. Your ROM seems to be really old, however, and you would benefit tremendously by upgrading to the 1.11 or 1.12 versions (1.11 is extremely stable and seems to be a crowd favorite). I don't know if it will resolve your SD issues, but it should at least improve other aspects of the phone. (stability, call quality, bluetooth functionality, and camera quality)

Little Survey...
Okay...i've upgraded my rom to the imate Jam 1.12 from club imate site on my MDA Compact to see if the SD card problem goes away....NO it doesn't. This is really frustrating...and the JAM rom is not as good as the tmobile one with periodic slow downs and already one reset.
Anyway folks, I want to see if I can get some correllation with rom and SD cards. So a mini survey for you all. If you have a T-mobile (originally) MDA compact and use an SD card let me know:
Current ROM Make?
Current ROM Version?
SD Card Make/Model/Capacity?
Any problems with other SD cards?
I will publish a summary for everyone later.
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sd card
i don't have a tmobile compact,
rather a qtec s100, although I got a TMobile manual in my box..
anyway, i have a 2gb 150x speed ADATA SD Card and I have exactly the same problem. If you browse this forum you will see there is one or two more other topics about the exact same issue.. dont think its anything to do with a specific vendor pda i.e. o2 / tmobile.... but rather a jam thing.
I don't think they currently recognise the latest sd cards, although, i've been told they do recognise the 2gb ultra disk from moby memory retailing at about £133.
So, we can either wait for the ROM upgrade to include the latest stuff, or swap or sell the cards and buy another one.. i'm probably doing the latter to be honest as i just cant wait.
ANyway, if you do find the problem, please let me know.
Regards,
Bushmen

Current ROM; Original T-Mobile
Other details in sig.
Have SanDisk SD 512mb, 100% fine from day one till now.

They don't seem to recognise the 2gb Moby SD...because that was my initial purchase. Then I downgraded to the 1gb. They are going to send me another 1gb from a different manufacturer. Moby are having a few of these problems cropping up.
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2 Gb GB SD doesnt works but 2GB MMC works fine... :?

MDA & SD CARD
Original MDA ROM & Radio V1.12
Bytestor 2 x 1gb hi-speed cards, no problems 100% perfect.
256mb Kingston card, today, no problems so far.

transend 1gb high speed no prob
old twin mos 256 mb card had same problem with you. but after i fomatted it with an external card reader and windows, worked perfectly. (this was used for a digital camera before)
hope this helps

PJS said:
I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
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Do the cards work fine in a PC card reader?
Does "formatting" on the MDA cause the card to be unreadable on the PC (until you reformat it on the PC)?
If so, these are the exact symptoms found on some early Magicians. If the card works in a PC, then it's a fault on the Jam/MDA, not the card, although the fault does vary by card brand. If you don't get the MDA swapped out, you could end up with it randomly wiping your card. See http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM&thread=153
If you don't have a PC card reader to test - get one (make sure it's USB2). Life is not long enough to transfer 2GB by activesync!

Imate Jam
My cards:
Apacer 1gb-no problems
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
Sandisk 1gb (regular)-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.

Matterhorn said:
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.
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I can confirm, it works on my HTC Magician too, formated with Fat32 on my PC and pluged into the Magician and have full capacity available! Already filled up with 1.4GB of data (TomTom Maps mostly) Really seems the only 2GB SD card working on the Magician :roll:

See my posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24988&highlight=2gb+sd

1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
Works fine on PC Card reader. But shows prompt for "Format" on MDA. When formatted, it does not show in File Explorer, but About Box says explansion slot in use. This card works fine on my Orange SPV (1st model).
I am trying for 512MB 60x speed Toshiba card.

Transcend 4Gig works on Jam - WITH SHIM
The JAM is famous for having innaccurate "travel" in its SD contact mechanical design. SD cards that are not thick enough will give this symptom. The fix is to add a "shim" of plastic or paper to the contact side of the SD card.
I use the sticky part of a PostIt note. Cover the entire card area except the contacts at the bottom. Contact side only. The Transcend 4 gig card is too thin, but adding the trusty PostIt fix now allows me to use this huge ($100) card with no problems. Hope this hack fixes your SD issues too - chuse...

4GB SD cards again... but Samsung?

Hi all,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...80014389657&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
Some eBay store is selling 4GB OEM Samsungs (or so he claims?) for a pretty good price. Please don't scream 'SCAM!' yet until I confirm that I haven't recieved a card from him .
But the real question here is, will this work on a Magician? There are plenty of threads about Adata and Transcend but none for Samsung (yes I realise samsungs are rebranded at retails, but I doubt Adata and Transcend rebrand Samsungs?)! Note the description says 'Support SD 1.1', so hopefully that means a yes?
Thanks!
EDIT: The listing above ended a while back. Theres a newer bunch here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/150X-4GB-OEM...hZ018QQcategoryZ93930QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

got one in my charmer but yeah they work on magicians too. tested on an imate jam using the latest 1.12 rom.

Thanks for the info, but my one doesn't seem to work in my Magician... heck it looks suspiciously fake, but I've tested it with a 3.6GB batch of files and it holds brilliantly! It works on my older Dell Axim x30, which really doesn't say anything good about the Magician's SD tech...
Well its a bit last ditch, but anyone got any ideas?
Thanks!
EDIT: dave, I found a similar post of yours on Modaco :lol:... well yea since you seem to have bought the exact same item, I was wondering if you could verify some things for me:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!

toomuchdogfur said:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!
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dont know the firmware as i dont have the phone to hand but its got the lastest rom from www.clubimate.com, as i remember i used the one with the lastest date which is either the file youve mentioned or the UK one with the same date.
my card had a green sticker on it, one which looks like its been printed on an inkjet printer and then torn rather than cut to fit the card!

Would it work with the Blueangel?????
Thanks.

Yea I've tried the latest i-mate international ROM with no success, but I'll get the UK one and try that once my download metering goes into off-peak . I hope that it is a ROM problem and not a hardware one, so then I would have at least an inkling of a chance in getting the SD to work on my XDA Mini!
As for the BlueAngel, I can only say that it won't work on a Wallaby (O2 XDA), but then again thats an era behind the BlueAngel... don't buy it until you're certain, because you won't have much fun trying to get a return from a US seller. What I can say is that its not a fake (tested it by dumping >3GB of files on it), but it does come with an ugly sticker... maybe if you ask nicely the dude will give you a choice of colour. :wink:
Blargh bloody card! Why can't you just WORK!

XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..

Re: XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Still doesn't work!!! Even on UK i-mate JAM ROM. Now I'm resorting to farfetched ideas such as filling the card up to 2GB and 3GB (still in progress) and putting autorun programs on it (doesn't work). I've tried it on FAT16, FAT32 and even NTFS with no luck, partitioned it to 2GB with no results. A few more questions, if you don't mind?
- Did your i-mate prompt you to format your card upon insertion, or did it work on the get-go?
- Was it formatted or partitioned in any particular way?
oicnev said:
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..
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Lucky you ! Yes I had the same issue with my Dell Axim x30, what I did was that I used paritioning software to delete the entire 2GB partition, then to paritition the entire 4GB as FAT32... and it worked! So from my view, if your PDA is able to format a certain memory card, even partially, that means it can read it whole BUT it can't format it properly. Hence you format it for it .

a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.

dream_sequence said:
a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.
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I guess you would hafta believe the speed ratings on the cards, hence I presume a 200x MMC would beat the pants of any other flash memory card under 200x, regardless of whether it was a MMC, SD, etc.
Yea I've read of poor Magician compatibility with any cards above 1GB. But what baffles and irritates me most is that dave106 has (seemingly) exactly the same bloody card working in his mate's i-mate JAM, yet my bloody thing will prompt me to format everytime - if I don't, it doesn't read, but if I do, it formats to RAW and doesn't read :? !

hmmmm... examining the 4GB card using Paragon Partition Manager gets some interesting results! Here's the card when properly formatted:
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: FAT32
Drive letter: G:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 32
Sectors / cluster: 8
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 7.7 MB ( 0%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
...and here's the card after a stint in Magician's 'format':
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: Unformatted
Drive letter: *:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 0
Sectors / cluster: 0
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 2048 GB (53363%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
2048GB used??? Even if I delete the partition on my SD card so it becomes RAW, the used stays put at 0 bytes. It seems as though the Magician gets confused as hell when formatting this card... wonder why?

when i got the card, stuck it in the PC and it was already formatted. Put about 3.5gig of music on it and a few days later tried it out in my mates jam and it came up fine in the memory cpl and in file explorer.

Still no luck... after numerous reflashes and ideas, i've given up on this card. Thanks for all the help anyway dave! My uncle has a XDA Mini as well so I'll try it in his later.

howdy,
not too sure wether this revelation applies to your 4gb cards, but I found out many previously unrecognizable sd cards( upto two gigs) were readable once formatted with sktools.
- No, this is not a joke, try it and lets see whether it applies to 4 gig cards as well.
cheers

RE SKTools
Hi.. just tried SKTools.. I couldn't use its feature for SD Cards, it couldn't detect any SD CARD when i inserted my 4gig SD Card, but it could, when i inserted my 256MB...
But thanks,, i found it so useful for alot of my other pocket pc concerns..
HELP...

Thanks for the tip thormdac, but no luck with it either - doesn't detect the memory card on my XDA Mini, and even if i slot it into my Dell x30 (which can read the four gigs perfectly fine) it cannot format the card such so that it can be read by the Magician. BLAH!
Anyway the seller has offered me a refund, which is either very kind or very suspicious depending on your mindset but I think I'll take up the offer - after I try it in my uncle's XDA Mini on Saturday. Losing ten bucks kinda sucks though :roll:.
Oh and btw I also ran the card through this handy formatting tool from Panasonic/Matsushita - the guys who enforce the SD 1.1 standard. It only works for cards up to 2GB, though even when I partitioned the 4GB card to fit under the limits it spat out an error halfway.
On another note: Another SanDisk eBay scam
Sandisk Ultra II 4GB cards don't exist! I was going to report him, but the sneaky bastard avoided mentioning 'SanDisk' at all... plus the 1-day listing makes me suspect that his account might have been hacked. I just hink it's sad there's these scammers around since there are inevitably people who are going to get sucked in by this :x

OMG!
It worked in my uncle's XDA! In frustration, I carefully dissected my Magician with the help of my uncle only to find... errr, nothing. HOWEVER when I partially put it back together (the first two layers of the top-back panel were still off) and switched it on to test, the card bloody worked! Not knowing what I had did, I put it back together only to have it not work again! @#$!
HMMM... again I pulled off the top two layers of the rear and it worked. Eventually we figured out that if we tightened the screws on the rear panel too much, then the Magician would refuse to read the card properly. A bloody manafacturing defect. Peeling off that fat red sticker on the SD card also helped, and eventually the Magician was reliably reading the SD card!
This might go some length in explaining why 4GB SD cards won't work in the Magician while others will - the thickness of SDs may be putting too much pressure on the contacts in the slot, which are already under some pressure by the panel on top of the SD slot. The only difference between my uncle's and my XDA Mini were the bootloader versions - v1.00 and v1.02 respectively - which seems to indicate that my uncle's is an earlier model - perhaps they don't make them like they used to? Note that my XDA Mini reads every card fine BUT the 4GB - I still cannot come up with an explanation for that, considering that this reading problem seems to be a mechanical problem.
I don't know if I'm right at all, but perhaps if anyone is having problems reading SD cards in their Mini, you might want to try opening the cover above your battery panel (its plastic, held by hinges, you should be able to figure how to open it if you're brave enough) and adjusting the tightness of the screws holding the panel underneath (you WILL need a TORX screwdriver... bloody small one too, 'TORX 06').
Thanks for all your help too!

4gb Sd card not working in Imate Jam
Thanks for the tip "toomuchdogfur" untightening the screws on the back of my T mobile MDA has now allowed me to use my new 4gb SD card ,before it would constantly suggest to format card .

Hmmm... so its not a single case after all. I wonder if there are a large number of Magicians with this fault?

4gb sd in magician
Hi guys , Ihave been driven mad by the imate jam ( magician ) not recognising memory cards, so I contacted imate support and got this reply:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that the SD card standard is limited to 2 GB and our devices are fully compliant to the standard. Cards with the capacity greater than 2 GB are not compliant to the standard and we cannot guarantee that they will function correctly. As to transferring speed limit, we recommend not using ultra speed SD cards with the speed more than 64x as they either will not work or may pose problems later. Also we would like to inform you that some SD cards need to be formatted using any PC / Laptop (supporting SD cards) before using with our devices.
Regards,
Technical Support - i-mate™
So I finally sent my jam back for repair under warranty as the backlight kept going off too and now it seems to be ok . I did wonder about the thickness of the memory cards because some do feel like a tight fit. I have also read on various forums that the jam cannot manage larger than 2gb size memory cards and lots of owners seem to complain of the same format/ reformat problems.I am looking at getting a 4gb card but don't know which one to try. Most uk available ones are 150x speed. Any I mate jam users with good advice on this topic? :!:
Update 18/10/06
Today I received a Kingmax 4gb 40x sd card from Dabs.com £54.48 and it works in my I-mate jam straight out of the box, no formatting or anything. Finally I can hardly believe it!!!!
http://www.dabs.com/ProductList.asp...y=All&PageMode=3&NavigationKey=0&SearchType=1
ps. MMC plus cards don't work at all in my Imate jam ,although an old ancient 256mb mmc card works.Guess it really is all down to the speed. Keep it below 60x and its hunky dory!

New Issue With MiniSD

I have a hermes and there i was using a 2 gb sandisk micro sd card for some 5 month...and recently i brought a trinity and then hence im using that micro sd card with a minisd adapter in the trinity...and for last 1 week it worked flawlessly...last night all of a sudden the minisd card disappeared...no sign of storage card like that there has no card inserted...although in the about window it says expention slot in use..but in memory window no storage card installed!! and resco explorer or any other program cant detect the card...
firstly i thought my card is currupted so i inserted it (the micro sd) in my hermes and it worked there without any glitch...even then i formatted it in both fat16 and fat32 in the pc with a card reader but my trinity cant detect the card....
then i thought my mini sd adapter is broken...so i tried the memory card with the minisd adapter in the nokia 6280 and its working there without any probs....and then i tried the 64mb minisd card that came with nokia 6280 in the trinity and WTF my trinity can detect this card and also working with it..that means the card slot of the trinity is ok...
after all of this experiment then i flashed 3 types of rom in the trinity to see if it can detect the card... one is the lsvw edition with gps...(that i was using for a week before this thing happened) then a original htc rom and the dopod australia rom that my set had when i purched it...but all this three rom has same result...can detect 64 mb card (which is nokia oem minisd) but cant detect the 2gb sacdisk (wich is a micro sd to mini sd converted)...
now do anyone have similar kind of problem...or this is a new issue...i dont have any other card to try in this moment.... just ordered a oem 4gb minisd...will get it in next week...
and finally to let you know that my micro sd card is perfectlly working both in hermes and in nokia with the mini sd adapter and i also did a rough test on it with a card reader in computer with the mini sd converted inserted...and no sign of a probs there...
any comment or suggestion would be helpfull...
and a final thing as i brought it in plan from 3 australuia..and im still in that 14 day period...do you thing if i go to a 3 store and told them the setuation will they replace my handset..??i have the dopod australia rom installed so i dont hink they will be able to detect that i had flased other roms...??
Sajib

it does not support anything higher than a 1gb memory card, i have had this problem to with a 2gb card, i have now put a 1gb card and it see's it fine!

Malkav said:
it does not support anything higher than a 1gb memory card, i have had this problem to with a 2gb card, i have now put a 1gb card and it see's it fine!
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Sorry but I disagree. I have been using a standard Sandisk 2GB miniSD for 4 months now without any problem.

i got told it will only support a maximum of a 1gb mini sd?????

Using a 2 GB SanDisk without problems.

I've been using a standard (non SDHC) 4 gb card for 3 months with no major problems. Never had the card 'disappear' completely - only minor file corruption like losing a picture or a ringtone (but it always comes back on soft reset). Only have those types of issues occasionally anyway (like maybe 1 a week - device should be soft reset that often anyway!) Overall, very pleased with the performance of this device.

G'day,
Perhaps you could try formatting the card in the trinity using an OEM tool. My card (1GB Sandisk miniSD) "disappeared" a few weeks ago after using it OK for a month. I used a card reader in my PC to back it up then formatted it using Spb Pocket Plus in the trinity. I was then able to restore the data from the PC using activesync. Worked OK for me and no problems since.
Good luck.

minisd card problem
Dear Customer,
Thanks for your email regarding your P3600.? The issue you describe is something we are aware of and are currently in the process of rectifying.? It seems to be linked in some way to the latest updates to Windows Mobile 5 and as such we have also enlisted Microsoft's help in solving this.? It seems that the device is accessing the memory while it is in an idle state.
We are currently still investigating the matter with the help of our engineers in Taiwan, but in the meantime, to workaround the problem you can set the device to turn itself off after 1 minute in the power options, then let the device turn itself off instead of pressing the power button.
Once we have fixed the problem, I have no doubt it will be released in some sort of ROM update in the near future.
Thank you for your patience in this matter.

Hong Kong's D810 now officially shipped with a 2G miniSD as a gift

Ok,
I also asked HTC europe supoport about the specifications and got an answer per eMail that the P3600 supports mini SD up to 2GB and does NOT support 'ultra' or SD HC-versions.
So perhaps give it a try with a regular (and unfortunately slower) 2GB SD??
S.

A strange developement that i thought better to be share...firstly my 2 gb sandisk micro sd card (converted to mini sd with a adapter) still doesnt work after updating to latest dopod rom and to latest aku 3.3.1 htc rom...setting>memory still says not installed...but if i boot into bootloaded mode and use the trinming.nbh trick to flash my trinity with a nbh file..it does detect the sd card instantly and start flashing without any problem..so it also prove that the sd card slot is ok and it also detect the card in hardware level but it cant recognise in software part...its strange as the same card worked for the 1st 1 week after i brought the d810..!!!!
now does anyone one have more ideas??
and hopefully im getting my topram 4gb card in a days or 2 to test more furthur...in this mean time im really frustated for not able to use tomtom as no space to keep the maps....

sajib said:
A strange developement that i thought better to be share...firstly my 2 gb sandisk micro sd card (converted to mini sd with a adapter) still doesnt work after updating to latest dopod rom and to latest aku 3.3.1 htc rom...setting>memory still says not installed...but if i boot into bootloaded mode and use the trinming.nbh trick to flash my trinity with a nbh file..it does detect the sd card instantly and start flashing without any problem..so it also prove that the sd card slot is ok and it also detect the card in hardware level but it cant recognise in software part...its strange as the same card worked for the 1st 1 week after i brought the d810..!!!!
now does anyone one have more ideas??
and hopefully im getting my topram 4gb card in a days or 2 to test more furthur...in this mean time im really frustated for not able to use tomtom as no space to keep the maps....
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Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196

Yeap i tried that performance tweak in both way increased it to 8196 and also decreased it to 1500 nothing helped..
and sure i did format it with two diffrent card reader and also using some other tools like panasonic sd card formater or hp formatting tools...and just a hour ago i tried pertitioning it into two part 1gb/1gb hermes do recognise the card so do the pc in 2 partition mode but trinity cant detect it even now...
and finally as i told you my trinity detect the 64 mb nokia oem minisd card so i also tried partitioning my micro sd into a single 64 partition to find out if it has something to do with the capacity but same result there...
so im bit of confused here...really confused..
Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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sajib said:
Yeap i tried that performance tweak in both way increased it to 8196 and also decreased it to 1500 nothing helped..
and sure i did format it with two diffrent card reader and also using some other tools like panasonic sd card formater or hp formatting tools...and just a hour ago i tried pertitioning it into two part 1gb/1gb hermes do recognise the card so do the pc in 2 partition mode but trinity cant detect it even now...
and finally as i told you my trinity detect the 64 mb nokia oem minisd card so i also tried partitioning my micro sd into a single 64 partition to find out if it has something to do with the capacity but same result there...
so im bit of confused here...really confused..
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It sounds like you've really tried everything. I don't know what else to say , maybe another card will give better luck?

Ok now there i have just got my 4gb topram card and the best of all is my trinity can detect it and show the size as 3970 mb!!!! hey..at last....even though i didnt test it throughly yet (that will be done in next couple of hour) but im happy that the problem i mentioned earlier with 2 gb micro sd card now seems was related to the mini sd card converter or with the card itself atlist not have to deal with the phone warrenty and stuff like that...
thanks to all who tried to help me out..

sajib said:
Ok now there i have just got my 4gb topram card and the best of all is my trinity can detect it and show the size as 3970 mb!!!! hey..at last....even though i didnt test it throughly yet (that will be done in next couple of hour) but im happy that the problem i mentioned earlier with 2 gb micro sd card now seems was related to the mini sd card converter or with the card itself atlist not have to deal with the phone warrenty and stuff like that...
thanks to all who tried to help me out..
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Please let me know if it works fine after a week or so. I'm interested in getting one...
Thanks,

Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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Hi to all!
i have just bought a htc p3600, and when i put my 2gb miniSD card in it, he don't recognise it!!!! this card has working perfectly in my "old" QTEK 9100 (last 9month)
i have also verify that in my QTEK 9100 the regystri was:
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:1500[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:1500
i put this values in HTC P3600.... still not regonized. i try whith 8196 but nothing apenned too.....
in anytime, if i put my miniSD in the QTEK 9100, he work's whith no problem....
i already read all this tread, but i can't find the solution to this problem.... maybe i search badly, but can anyone indicate me , if exist, the rigth method to format/resolve this problem.... please help....

hi to all again...
when i'm to format my miniSD in my PC, i can chose the cluster size.... in the tip above, it was referring to change two value to 8196.... but in my PC the cluster size is 8192..... i try whith both value, but still can't get my miniSD recognized....

Matterhorn said:
Have you reformatted the card using a card reader with XP?
Now...I have maintained many times that my TopRam 4gb works just fine in my Trinity while many others have complained about problems with cards from many different manufacturers, both 2gb and 4gb cards. It may not be just a coincidence that mine has no problems. I always do the WM5 performance tweaks on my devices and yesterday I saw in the Hermes Wiki a reference to a known problem with the storage buffer settings. The fix that it recommends is one of the settings that I always change with my performance tweaks. It cetainly won't hurt, and for all of those people that are constantly complaining about their miniSD cards, maybe you should try it! The other performance tweaks might also help.
Quote from the Hermes Wiki:
Missing/Corrupt SD Card?
This mod seems to make the SD Card more stable, and avoids the problems encountered by some members where the SD Card either disappears or the card 'loses' information until it's ejected then re-inserted.
There are two issues to this. One is that SD Cards that are made in Taiwan seem to have more problems than Japan made cards. Kingston SD Cards are made in Japan, so, they are a relatively good bet. Sandisk and Crucial are made in Taiwan, so seems to have more problems. The second issue is the registry; the default values are just too low.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPUnloadDelay" = dword:8196
[HKLM\System\StorageManager]"PNPWaitIODelay" = dword:8196
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hi, pls cd u link the other tweaks u reccommend?

Ordered a Sandisk 2GB Ultra Mini SD card earlier today..
After reading this perhaps a 1GB would've been a safer bet... Still, worth a try. Would prefer to have the complete EU maps on one card.

Storage Card Not Being Discovered

My HD2 either doesn't discover the storage card, or loses it after just a few moments.
I have tried two different cards (the 2GB supplied and my 8GB microSDHC).
Has anyone had a similar problem?
Any ideas?
Or is my phone defective.... Help!

^2 options
either storage card is defective or phone is defective...
seems like you did a cross change...
try another storage card on HD2 and try your HD2 storage card on another phone.
then you know which one causes this.
Usually 95% of the cases its the storage card thats defective

My 8Gb card works in my Xperia X1 - the card is a Sandisk Micro SD HC. Whereas the card supplied is a 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD.
Not sure what HC is.
I assume the HD2 can take a 8Gb card - but unsure about the difference in the cards.

graemenwallace said:
My 8Gb card works in my Xperia X1 - the card is a Sandisk Micro SD HC. Whereas the card supplied is a 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD.
Not sure what HC is.
I assume the HD2 can take a 8Gb card - but unsure about the difference in the cards.
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HC = High Capacity IIRC
The HD2 can take an 8gb card.
The cards don't seem to be faulty (that is assuming that you've tested the 2gb also).

Try a reset/hard boot. I have had this issue before with other phones and that sometimes fixes

indeed SD stands for Secure Digital and HC for High Capacity...
the next generation will be SDXC (with eXtended capacity)...but thats coming 2010 or 2011..
anyway seems like your phone has an issue. Because HTC devices of the last few years are all capable of SDHC memory cards and they support either 16 or 32 GB.
I would make use of my warranty. But before try a hard reset.

Thank you all for the information.
The HD2 doesn't like that 8GB SDHC Card. When in the memory section of the phone, it recognises it, displays it used/free space, then shortly afterwards states no card is installed!
A hard reset, if no luck, I'll return it... fingers crossed.

Crap!
Hard reset didn't work! Why do I always get the duff unit!
I find it strange that it detects the card for a while then loses it...
Sending it back tomorrow for exhange....

thats the only reason I'm not such a big fan of online orders...in warranty cases everything takes a little longer.
but don't be discouraged...worse things happen in life. keep your head up

At least in the UK you are covered by Distance Selling Regulations. Hope you get it sorted soon mate!

Did you try to format your SD card?
I faced a similar situation with Diamond 2 where the SD was faulty until I did a quick format Fat32 and it worked perfectly

faced this issue in my touch hd AND x1. try formatting the card - helped me twice.

Did you install SD tune up? I also had the same problem. I uninstalled SD tune up and reset and storage card was found again. also I installed s2u2 but believe it was the former app that caused the problem.

Ah-haaaaaaaaaaa!
Formating to FAT32 has fixed the problem - thank you all for you help and suggestions.
I also must say thanks to HTC tech guru's too who experimented with various memory cards too.
Now to start a new thread on Bluetooth - Car Kit...

graemenwallace said:
My HD2 either doesn't discover the storage card, or loses it after just a few moments.
I have tried two different cards (the 2GB supplied and my 8GB microSDHC).
Has anyone had a similar problem?
Any ideas?
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I had the same problem with my 16 Gig card. I made a backup of the card on my pc, formatted it and inserted in my HD2 and from that moment I had no problem anymore

SD card NOT reading

I have installed the total commander on my sd card and all of a sudden my card stop reading.i restart the system and then got the message to format the card in order to read it. i did but still card was not reading. i inserted the card in my pc but still the card was not reading. i bring my hd2 to factory settings and then also not reading the card. then i again format the card but of no use. any help from anyone.

same here
i got the same problem recently. my 8gb sdhc stopped working. whenever i insert the card in my hd2 it says the card needs to be formatted before use. when format it says formatted successfully but the sdhc does not show anywhere as if there is no memory card in the hd2. computer also does not detect the card. it is the stock 8gb sandisk sdhc supplied by htc. only been using it for 1 week. anyone else has got this problem? do you know what may has caused this? any help will be appreciated. thanks!

Same problem here,
my (HTC supplied) 8gb SanDisk SDHC card stopped working after about 3 weeks use.. I got "do you want to format the card to make it readable.."
Tried different phone (HTC Kaiser), cardreaders on 2 different laptops, winxp/win7/debian/knoppix even canon photocam.. Several restore programs/format programs.. Even tried putting it in the refrigerator over night..
All no luck.. I gave up! (now missing some nice vids from my son..)
sync my SD card almost daily now..

dwali said:
Same problem here,
my (HTC supplied) 8gb SanDisk SDHC card stopped working after about 3 weeks use.. I got "do you want to format the card to make it readable.."
Tried different phone (HTC Kaiser), cardreaders on 2 different laptops, winxp/win7/debian/knoppix even canon photocam.. Several restore programs/format programs.. Even tried putting it in the refrigerator over night..
All no luck.. I gave up! (now missing some nice vids from my son..)
sync my SD card almost daily now..
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now many user are getting this problem. i don't know if this problem is with micro sd supplied by htc or the phone itself damaging memory card. what is weird is that it seems only the memory card sandisk 8gb supplied by htc seems to be concerned. i just hope after buying another card it does not get damaged too.

HINT
someone told me to put the card in the digital camera and try formatting the card over there. digital cameras have their own format scheme, but i don't have digital camera........its worth trying it...........people called digi gurus told me about that...........

Another card down for htc hd2
I brought a new card 4gb sandisk micro sd. its gone showing me the same message which i was getting it with my 8 gb card "format the card in order to read it" what is the problem is this a problem with the phone or with the card. it is unbelievable that my new card is also showing the same message. what is going on.
I want to know what is the problem, problem with the phone or with the micro sd card.
this is the second card which got damaged......
exact message """" DO YOU WANT TO FORMAT THIS STORAGE CARD TO MAKE IT READABLE? THIS WILL PERMANENTLY DELETE ANY FILES ON THE CARD. PRESSED YES . THIS STORAGE CARD HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY FORMATTED. """
NOW IF WE SEE UNDER SETTINGS SD CARD AND PHONE STORAGE NO SD CARD IS SHOWING OVER THERE.
what is the reason behind it??????????????????
I HAVE JUST TAKEN OUT THE USB FROM THE CHARGER NOT FROM THE COMPUTER AS IT IS CHARGED BY THE USB CABLE.
I am still struggling with the first card warranty from the HTC and now my second card with same message is gone down.

vikramdeepsingh said:
someone told me to put the card in the digital camera and try formatting the card over there. digital cameras have their own format scheme, but i don't have digital camera........its worth trying it...........people called digi gurus told me about that...........
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i have a digital camera panasonic dmc-fz28. i did try to format the card with the camera. but this doesn't work. you said you got another card damaged by the phone. i think the problem is with the phone itself then. send the phone to your local dealer for repair and see what they say.

My 1 year old 8GB Sandisk microsd corrupted second time since 2 weeks. It happend after running OPERA 10 installed on SD. My HD2 is running on Energy ROM.

vikramdeepsingh said:
someone told me to put the card in the digital camera and try formatting the card over there. digital cameras have their own format scheme, but i don't have digital camera........its worth trying it...........people called digi gurus told me about that...........
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Tried that too.. no luck.. (Canon powershot A430)
Now using an older (got it with my HTC Wizard) sandisk 8gb, working without probs for over a month now.. (backing up a lot though..)

Ok i am having the same issue with my class 10 16GB Kingston. All of a sudden after syncing the memory card failed. The phone recognised another class 2 4GB sandisk and works fine. THIS SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THE PHONE. and one which has set me back £70 (Not good at all) and is something that only seem to have happened since the intorduction of the 1.66 rom for me

I had similar problem but there wasn't any message, once I go to photo album the card won't be read and all programs from card can't be run, finally took out all the videos/photos and now is fine, gotta be some software glitch.

happened to me also..i lost photos that i wasnt able to back up yet..do i need to buy a new sd card then? this is really frustrating :,(

I got the same problem with my 8Gb Sandisk SD card. after that i installed another 8gb card (from my nokia 5800) on my phone & its been a month & working fine. I think it happened to me after I installed firefox's fennec alpha on my sd card.

Maybe it has something to do with the CLASS of mSD.
When I received my HD2 I bought a 16GB SanDisk mSD from Amazon, installed it and worked fine for half a year. Just by chance it was a CLASS 2 as I looked up now beeing very concerned by this thread. Now I bought the 32GB mSD from SanDisk (also CLASS 2), copied the contents from 16GB card to 32 GB card and it works flawless.
Now let´s check: was there any one with a bricked CLASS 2 mSD ? Or only mSDs of higher class bricked ?
If so we have to aks some hardware-specialists here wether a class 4 or higher card gets bricked because of faster data throughput since these cards seem to be bricked PERMANENTLY ? There could be several physical reasons: Voltage, Ampere, Controller etc.

I got a bricked 32GB class 2 Sandisk card. It was fresh out of the box and I got an RMA from Sandisk. Awaiting for replacement.
I thought it was just a faulty card off the production line, since my stock 2GB Sandisk card still works fine. It shouldn't have been the phone, should it?

Need help
troed said:
Maybe it has something to do with the CLASS of mSD.
When I received my HD2 I bought a 16GB SanDisk mSD from Amazon, installed it and worked fine for half a year. Just by chance it was a CLASS 2 as I looked up now beeing very concerned by this thread. Now I bought the 32GB mSD from SanDisk (also CLASS 2), copied the contents from 16GB card to 32 GB card and it works flawless.
Now let´s check: was there any one with a bricked CLASS 2 mSD ? Or only mSDs of higher class bricked ?
If so we have to aks some hardware-specialists here wether a class 4 or higher card gets bricked because of faster data throughput since these cards seem to be bricked PERMANENTLY ? There could be several physical reasons: Voltage, Ampere, Controller etc.
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I have already lost two micro sd cards one 8gb which I got with the phone and one 4gb which i brought it. Now I am using Nextar card 4gb. it seems to be fine till now, is there any problem with the scan disk cards?

Is this a reliable gadget after all...???
dwali said:
Same problem here,
my (HTC supplied) 8gb SanDisk SDHC card stopped working after about 3 weeks use.. I got "do you want to format the card to make it readable.."
Tried different phone (HTC Kaiser), cardreaders on 2 different laptops, winxp/win7/debian/knoppix even canon photocam.. Several restore programs/format programs.. Even tried putting it in the refrigerator over night..
All no luck.. I gave up! (now missing some nice vids from my son..)
sync my SD card almost daily now..
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Ok, now I am pissed. My situation is almost identical as yours - including the loss of my son´s new vids and pics... - and I have the HD2 for almost 2 months now.
Suddenly the 8Gb SDHC stock card just stopped working. It came from nowhere. I found it when I tried to watch a video and the player was not showing it. Then I got into file manager and the storage card was missing... after a soft reset, the appaling msg appeared: "Do you want to format this storage card to make it readable? This will permanently delete any files on the card."
What I did recently: installed uZardWebP and MS-NetC3.5 yesterday. But the SDHC access was alright after that.
I am surprised about how many ppl have been at the same situation.
What the heck is going on? Do you guys know if HTC has ever said something about the subject?
If I cannot recover the content of this card, it will be the first and the last HTC unit I will ever get my hands on. Four years using a Sony Ericsson and a Nokia unit with a SD card and no problems whatsoever.
Occurrence could be considered usual if there weren´t so many incidents like mine.
If someone has ANY idea about recovering the card data I would be very grateful. (although I am hopeless after some reading... ...)
Regards!
HTC Leo (HD2) / ROM 1.66.707.1 (76641) WWE / Radio 2.07.51.22_2 / Manila 2.5.19211619.0 - All stock - device´s never been flashed.

I have lost 2 cards. I haven't changed the rom.
Both sandisk I blamed ebay.
Maybe I shouldn't.

Andrew u.k.: Agreed. Maybe you really shouldn't blame ebay.
So far my card recovery was unsuccessful.
At least I won't need to read a lot to learn how to burn a new ROM as long as I won't use this "Card killer" as a serious gadget after all.

most the time a hard reset fixes it...better then loosing valuable sd info over settting up phone again(just happened to me after loading lots of apps on sd didnt read any sd hard reset and its all normal)