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SD card no longer recognized: how to solve problem?

After exchanging from MMC card to SD card the PPC wants to reformat the SD card (the one with all your programs and back up etc on it [1GB]). The other SD card of 256mb is not recognized at all anymore (so much for all my music). Could there be a connection from the fact that I have had a MMC card inserted before? I already have put back the MMC card to see if some program had not been closed properly. ALthough I fortunately have a recent backup of my 1GB SD card ( but not my 256 mb card) I would prefer to find a more sophisticated solution than to reformat my SD card. Who has a solution for me? Thanks.

Is there a bug between MMC and SD?

SD Card getting corrupted by MDA II !!
Hello,
I have MDA ii since last two months and my device has corrrupted my extreme - 512 SD Card Twice and after corruption it's not even recognized by PPC , USB card reader and my camera.
I have installed omeg a_Red OS. on my MDA ii
Following are the details of my device
ROM Version : 2.0.6.00 WWE
ROM Date : 06/14/2004
Radio Version : 1.18.00
Protcol Version : 1337.38
ExtROM Version : Diamond 1.2 se
Please help

try to open it with card reader. and back up first.

Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.

ross1234 said:
Any luck?
For some unknown reason my XDA IIi no longer reads the SD card!
In about it says "Expansion Slot : In Use", but explorer can't see it!
Any help please?
Loads of pictures and movies on there too.
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have you been able to read your SD card at all. I am having the same problem with my XDAIIi. Cannot read the card on any device or PC.

Yep it worked fine straight away, hence I had "Loads of pictures and movies on there too. "
Does any one know what it going on?

maybe the card is dead
seen it happening to a CF card once all of a surden it just died
and would not work in the digicam sdreader ..,....

Nooooo, is that it then?!?! data none recoverable?
Does this happen often? Should I be able to get my money back? What's the point of having 1 gb of storage if at any moment it disapears with all your info on?!

when it happent with the CF card for the camera it was 100% dead and all data was lost
of cause i cant say for sure if it could be saved or not
but no money was thrown after the project
i mean when soo much time have passed who care who was firing the shots from the grassy nole
and to answer you other question then no it should be pretty rare
that a flash card die seen tests where they put a cam on a bridge and blew it up and found the flash card and it still worked
and also this
http://news.com.com/Lost+at+sea,+found+in+flash+-+page+2/2100-1041_3-5780047-2.html?tag=st.num
but i would try some different SD readers before writting it off as dead
i had exp with some sd readers which sucked
and others my own sandisk 8-1 flash reader had no issues reading the card

That's the route I'm trying, installing card reader on pc.
Cheers.
Expect a post in the near future "SD Card reader not working on XDA IIi"
:twisted:

I am also currently in the same soup. Whe I let the xda2 format the sd, it works alright in xda storing files etc, but not recognised by laptop and it also asks to format it.
Victor

I am giving up on my card. As it was only 2 days old I am returning it and hoping for a replacement. My friend has sent his XDA II back to O2 as it has destroyed 3 SD cards within the space of two weeks. All different makes. My card was a new 512MB high speed card. I had been using an older Sandisk 256MB card with no problems for several months and decided to upgrade. I will try another card that I have - Sandisk 512MB (slow card) and see if that is OK.
O2 have said that this is not a known problem!!! What do they know???

O2 also gave me the same reply!
Idiots.
Their solution was "Take it to a store, and an engineer will look at it"
Yeah right, you mean a dummy who is trained to follow a 10 stage analysis process and tell you at the end "Sorry, I don't know what the problem is, shall we send it back to HTC for analysis?"
My guess is that the handset is not negotiating the operating voltage correctly, and is frying certain cards.
My 512MB + 1GB Toshiba cards fried within 2 weeks of new.
My 256MB Kingston is still going strong after 9 months (touch wood!)
Now almost 90 quid down the drain, and I'm going to try O2 as a last resort!
(Might print this forum too

This has been happening quite a lot recently. I made a post regarding the same happening to my 512mb Kingston card here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=25566
Somewhere in that thread are links to THREE other recent threads regarding fried SD cards. I think there is a hardware fault in the device...

Anyway, I seem to remember the seller boasting about some warranty on their site, so I'm going to try to return it...

I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!

mmm_ok said:
I just spoke with the supplier... he was very accomodating. This is what he said:
Whilst the Kingtston card is of superior quality to the Viking they are both using Toshiba components and we have had customers experience a similar issue when using either card with the XDAii where it would seem that the device 'kills' the card... I would recommend a Lexar branded xD card for use in the XDAii rather than any Toshiba based card. If you are interested, you could purchase the Lexar card from us and I can issue you with a full refund for your current SD card (including postage) as I feel the Lexar card would be more suitable for your use.
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Sounds more and more like a device problem! Oh oh!
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I just had 2 SD cards blow up, a Viking 1GB card and a PNY 512 Mb card. Who is your supplier?

minisd problems after device goes into standby

Anyone else having an issue where after the trinity goes into standby maybe 2-3 times you are no longer able to access the minisd card? It still shows it being there.. but if you try to open any files it comes up with errors or will hang before finally timing out. The only way to resolve it for me has been to eject it and reinsert the media. The card works fine in my Wizard so I know it's not the card. The card is a 1gb Kingston Tech.

This dosen't help you anything, but just for information; it works fine for me... I've got a 2 GB miniSD from Sandisk

export800 said:
Anyone else having an issue where after the trinity goes into standby maybe 2-3 times you are no longer able to access the minisd card? It still shows it being there.. but if you try to open any files it comes up with errors or will hang before finally timing out. The only way to resolve it for me has been to eject it and reinsert the media. The card works fine in my Wizard so I know it's not the card. The card is a 1gb Kingston Tech.
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Maybe you are right and it's not the card, but I have lost count of how many messages I have read in forums about problems with Kingston cards!
I have a 2gb Sandisk card and it works fine I use windows media player with all mp3 files stored in the card so I would have noticed this problem immediately.

thanks for the responses.. I'm going to buy a new card and see if that works better

Problem Solved!
I went ahead and picked up a 2gb transcend card and now my problem went away. Thanks for the suggestion to try another card.

export800 said:
Anyone else having an issue where after the trinity goes into standby maybe 2-3 times you are no longer able to access the minisd card? It still shows it being there.. but if you try to open any files it comes up with errors or will hang before finally timing out. The only way to resolve it for me has been to eject it and reinsert the media. The card works fine in my Wizard so I know it's not the card. The card is a 1gb Kingston Tech.
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I'm also having problems with my SanDisk 2GB card. Didn't exactly check if the problems occur once it's gone on stand-by a couple of times but yes, there have been times I've had to eject and re-insert it to get it working again.
I'm fairly sure it's a bug and not the card because I've also been using the same card in my HTC Wizard and it's worked fine.
Hope there are some ROM updates soon.

same problem with my 2gb 80x from transcend, the card disappear in file explorer , i have to eject and re insert it too.

I did see it happen once and that was on the first day of use.

hmm.. wierd my transcend 2gb card has been working flawless for the past 4 days.. whereas my kingston 1gb would disappear within a few minutes. Guess it's all in the luck of the draw at this point until we get a rom fix. At least the good news is that Trinity forced me into upgrading to a 2gb card which I wanted to do anyway. So I'll give the phone credit for at least that

Initially I had the simmilar problems with my Sandisk 2GB card.
Then I discovered that PocketMax Phonealarm 1.57.00 caused problems. After I went back to Phonealarm 1.56.10 everything worked fine again. The most recent version of Phonealarm is 1.58.00 but I did not try that version yet as 1.56.10 works fine for me.
To see if your Phonealarm is causing problems just try to uninstall, softreset and use your device for a while without Phonealarm.

Since I have never used Phonealarm I'd go for a bug.
I have a Trinity and I noticed this problem with every program or data stored on my 2gb card.
Here is my conversation with the HTC support team :
Q : "I have a serious problemn with my new p3600 : each time it resumes from stand-by mode, the micro sd card is not recognized anymore. The result is I can't use my GPS software or any program installed on the card, nor any program can access to system files or music.
WHat can I do to fix this rather bothering issue?"
A : "Dear Mr. Simon,
Thank you for contacting HTC Europe support.
With regards to your query, there are no known issues with this device and storage cards. I would however advise you that these devices though they may work with 4GB cards are only tested with 2GB cards. If your SD card is over 2GB i would advise trying a smaller one.
If the card is 2GB or smaller,you may wish to try a hard reset or a different make of card.
Failing that the contact details below are for your relevant repair center."
If anyone has a hint on this issue, please let us know because it's rather disappointing for such an expensive device.

cadarn said:
If anyone has a hint on this issue, please let us know because it's rather disappointing for such an expensive device.
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That sure was a disappointing reply from them. I'm pretty sure their tech department is aware of this and its just their support staff that aren't informed of these things.
Anyway, time to play the waiting game.

Had this issue with my 1gb kingston card but the problems occured more often when i was installing and uninstalling apps, with the 2gb from Sandisk at the moment no problems.

fluke said:
Had this issue with my 1gb kingston card but the problems occured more often when i was installing and uninstalling apps, with the 2gb from Sandisk at the moment no problems.
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No problems with my sandisk 1GB card.

I have used a kingston 2gb card for about two weeks now and I do not have any problems whatsoever with standby and this brand of miniSD

I had the same problem initially with a unbranded 2gb mini-sd purchased from ebay. I purchased a new 2gb Transcend and no problems yet.

Be Cereful with HighSpeed New SDHC Transcend
Good Morning,
It appears that the transcend card you refer to does not work in our p3600 device. Therefore it seems that the P3600 does not support SDHC cards.
Thank you for your enquiry, Should you have any other problem, please do not hesitate to call us. Your Local number can be found at http://www.europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_phone.html
Best regards,
HTC Support
[email protected]
http://www.htc.com

I just bought a sandisk 1gb and haven't noticed any bug since. Therefore it means the Trinity doesn't like no name cheap memory cards.
At last, I can make the most of my little wonder!

Has anyone tried with the sandisk ultra cards?

I have an Ultra Sandisk 2 GB and it works like a charm on my Trinity. However, I recently used the Pocket Mechanic 2,23 and it screwed up my mini sd and warrented a format from my laptop following the defragmentation of the card through Pocket Mechanic. It is reported that Pocket Mechanic screws the sds if you use them to mess/ format or defragment the cards. I reinstalled everything with the exception of PM and now I have no problems.
Regards,
Gilbert

No MiniSD card found in explorer

Hi there,
you may think : "not another one with MiniSD card problems !", but I bought my HTC P3600 yesterday with a Kingston 2Gb MiniSD card and it just won't see the card. I have the original, latest WM5 version and didn't try to reformat the card (because I don't have a card reader here) yet, so could that be the problem or is it hardware-related ?
Regards

you can see more info in the memory setting
for sd cards
otherwise it could be a hardware issue had it happen before
with various flash cards
and of cause it could be the phone's sd connector if no minisd cards work :S

It doesn't show anything there, it says "not installed"......couldn't it be the card that only has to be formatted ? Or do you think it is hardware-related ?

just yr luck tt yr kingston 2gb is not recognised by your trinity.
happened to my friend as well.
solved when she got a sandisk instead.

You need tio try one of 2 things
1) Try your card in another device
2) Try another card in your device
If either work OK, it points to the culprit and the solution

my best bet is that the card is dead
happent to a 512MB kindston i had too
1 day it just stop'd working
kinda odd too when they say that sd cards are very resilient
saw a clip where they placed a digicam on a bridge and blew it up
and the sd card still worked
and a cam fell into the sea and washed up and the sd card was still working so they could get the pictures out
but i have many kingston sd cards which work just fine

Well, formatting the card had the desired effect !
It is now found by the P3600 and I was able to install the TomTom maps
I'm glad it worked !!

Storage Card Not Being Discovered

My HD2 either doesn't discover the storage card, or loses it after just a few moments.
I have tried two different cards (the 2GB supplied and my 8GB microSDHC).
Has anyone had a similar problem?
Any ideas?
Or is my phone defective.... Help!

^2 options
either storage card is defective or phone is defective...
seems like you did a cross change...
try another storage card on HD2 and try your HD2 storage card on another phone.
then you know which one causes this.
Usually 95% of the cases its the storage card thats defective

My 8Gb card works in my Xperia X1 - the card is a Sandisk Micro SD HC. Whereas the card supplied is a 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD.
Not sure what HC is.
I assume the HD2 can take a 8Gb card - but unsure about the difference in the cards.

graemenwallace said:
My 8Gb card works in my Xperia X1 - the card is a Sandisk Micro SD HC. Whereas the card supplied is a 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD.
Not sure what HC is.
I assume the HD2 can take a 8Gb card - but unsure about the difference in the cards.
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HC = High Capacity IIRC
The HD2 can take an 8gb card.
The cards don't seem to be faulty (that is assuming that you've tested the 2gb also).

Try a reset/hard boot. I have had this issue before with other phones and that sometimes fixes

indeed SD stands for Secure Digital and HC for High Capacity...
the next generation will be SDXC (with eXtended capacity)...but thats coming 2010 or 2011..
anyway seems like your phone has an issue. Because HTC devices of the last few years are all capable of SDHC memory cards and they support either 16 or 32 GB.
I would make use of my warranty. But before try a hard reset.

Thank you all for the information.
The HD2 doesn't like that 8GB SDHC Card. When in the memory section of the phone, it recognises it, displays it used/free space, then shortly afterwards states no card is installed!
A hard reset, if no luck, I'll return it... fingers crossed.

Crap!
Hard reset didn't work! Why do I always get the duff unit!
I find it strange that it detects the card for a while then loses it...
Sending it back tomorrow for exhange....

thats the only reason I'm not such a big fan of online orders...in warranty cases everything takes a little longer.
but don't be discouraged...worse things happen in life. keep your head up

At least in the UK you are covered by Distance Selling Regulations. Hope you get it sorted soon mate!

Did you try to format your SD card?
I faced a similar situation with Diamond 2 where the SD was faulty until I did a quick format Fat32 and it worked perfectly

faced this issue in my touch hd AND x1. try formatting the card - helped me twice.

Did you install SD tune up? I also had the same problem. I uninstalled SD tune up and reset and storage card was found again. also I installed s2u2 but believe it was the former app that caused the problem.

Ah-haaaaaaaaaaa!
Formating to FAT32 has fixed the problem - thank you all for you help and suggestions.
I also must say thanks to HTC tech guru's too who experimented with various memory cards too.
Now to start a new thread on Bluetooth - Car Kit...

graemenwallace said:
My HD2 either doesn't discover the storage card, or loses it after just a few moments.
I have tried two different cards (the 2GB supplied and my 8GB microSDHC).
Has anyone had a similar problem?
Any ideas?
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I had the same problem with my 16 Gig card. I made a backup of the card on my pc, formatted it and inserted in my HD2 and from that moment I had no problem anymore

SD card NOT reading

I have installed the total commander on my sd card and all of a sudden my card stop reading.i restart the system and then got the message to format the card in order to read it. i did but still card was not reading. i inserted the card in my pc but still the card was not reading. i bring my hd2 to factory settings and then also not reading the card. then i again format the card but of no use. any help from anyone.

same here
i got the same problem recently. my 8gb sdhc stopped working. whenever i insert the card in my hd2 it says the card needs to be formatted before use. when format it says formatted successfully but the sdhc does not show anywhere as if there is no memory card in the hd2. computer also does not detect the card. it is the stock 8gb sandisk sdhc supplied by htc. only been using it for 1 week. anyone else has got this problem? do you know what may has caused this? any help will be appreciated. thanks!

Same problem here,
my (HTC supplied) 8gb SanDisk SDHC card stopped working after about 3 weeks use.. I got "do you want to format the card to make it readable.."
Tried different phone (HTC Kaiser), cardreaders on 2 different laptops, winxp/win7/debian/knoppix even canon photocam.. Several restore programs/format programs.. Even tried putting it in the refrigerator over night..
All no luck.. I gave up! (now missing some nice vids from my son..)
sync my SD card almost daily now..

dwali said:
Same problem here,
my (HTC supplied) 8gb SanDisk SDHC card stopped working after about 3 weeks use.. I got "do you want to format the card to make it readable.."
Tried different phone (HTC Kaiser), cardreaders on 2 different laptops, winxp/win7/debian/knoppix even canon photocam.. Several restore programs/format programs.. Even tried putting it in the refrigerator over night..
All no luck.. I gave up! (now missing some nice vids from my son..)
sync my SD card almost daily now..
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now many user are getting this problem. i don't know if this problem is with micro sd supplied by htc or the phone itself damaging memory card. what is weird is that it seems only the memory card sandisk 8gb supplied by htc seems to be concerned. i just hope after buying another card it does not get damaged too.

HINT
someone told me to put the card in the digital camera and try formatting the card over there. digital cameras have their own format scheme, but i don't have digital camera........its worth trying it...........people called digi gurus told me about that...........

Another card down for htc hd2
I brought a new card 4gb sandisk micro sd. its gone showing me the same message which i was getting it with my 8 gb card "format the card in order to read it" what is the problem is this a problem with the phone or with the card. it is unbelievable that my new card is also showing the same message. what is going on.
I want to know what is the problem, problem with the phone or with the micro sd card.
this is the second card which got damaged......
exact message """" DO YOU WANT TO FORMAT THIS STORAGE CARD TO MAKE IT READABLE? THIS WILL PERMANENTLY DELETE ANY FILES ON THE CARD. PRESSED YES . THIS STORAGE CARD HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY FORMATTED. """
NOW IF WE SEE UNDER SETTINGS SD CARD AND PHONE STORAGE NO SD CARD IS SHOWING OVER THERE.
what is the reason behind it??????????????????
I HAVE JUST TAKEN OUT THE USB FROM THE CHARGER NOT FROM THE COMPUTER AS IT IS CHARGED BY THE USB CABLE.
I am still struggling with the first card warranty from the HTC and now my second card with same message is gone down.

vikramdeepsingh said:
someone told me to put the card in the digital camera and try formatting the card over there. digital cameras have their own format scheme, but i don't have digital camera........its worth trying it...........people called digi gurus told me about that...........
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i have a digital camera panasonic dmc-fz28. i did try to format the card with the camera. but this doesn't work. you said you got another card damaged by the phone. i think the problem is with the phone itself then. send the phone to your local dealer for repair and see what they say.

My 1 year old 8GB Sandisk microsd corrupted second time since 2 weeks. It happend after running OPERA 10 installed on SD. My HD2 is running on Energy ROM.

vikramdeepsingh said:
someone told me to put the card in the digital camera and try formatting the card over there. digital cameras have their own format scheme, but i don't have digital camera........its worth trying it...........people called digi gurus told me about that...........
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Tried that too.. no luck.. (Canon powershot A430)
Now using an older (got it with my HTC Wizard) sandisk 8gb, working without probs for over a month now.. (backing up a lot though..)

Ok i am having the same issue with my class 10 16GB Kingston. All of a sudden after syncing the memory card failed. The phone recognised another class 2 4GB sandisk and works fine. THIS SEEMS TO BE A PROBLEM WITH THE PHONE. and one which has set me back £70 (Not good at all) and is something that only seem to have happened since the intorduction of the 1.66 rom for me

I had similar problem but there wasn't any message, once I go to photo album the card won't be read and all programs from card can't be run, finally took out all the videos/photos and now is fine, gotta be some software glitch.

happened to me also..i lost photos that i wasnt able to back up yet..do i need to buy a new sd card then? this is really frustrating :,(

I got the same problem with my 8Gb Sandisk SD card. after that i installed another 8gb card (from my nokia 5800) on my phone & its been a month & working fine. I think it happened to me after I installed firefox's fennec alpha on my sd card.

Maybe it has something to do with the CLASS of mSD.
When I received my HD2 I bought a 16GB SanDisk mSD from Amazon, installed it and worked fine for half a year. Just by chance it was a CLASS 2 as I looked up now beeing very concerned by this thread. Now I bought the 32GB mSD from SanDisk (also CLASS 2), copied the contents from 16GB card to 32 GB card and it works flawless.
Now let´s check: was there any one with a bricked CLASS 2 mSD ? Or only mSDs of higher class bricked ?
If so we have to aks some hardware-specialists here wether a class 4 or higher card gets bricked because of faster data throughput since these cards seem to be bricked PERMANENTLY ? There could be several physical reasons: Voltage, Ampere, Controller etc.

I got a bricked 32GB class 2 Sandisk card. It was fresh out of the box and I got an RMA from Sandisk. Awaiting for replacement.
I thought it was just a faulty card off the production line, since my stock 2GB Sandisk card still works fine. It shouldn't have been the phone, should it?

Need help
troed said:
Maybe it has something to do with the CLASS of mSD.
When I received my HD2 I bought a 16GB SanDisk mSD from Amazon, installed it and worked fine for half a year. Just by chance it was a CLASS 2 as I looked up now beeing very concerned by this thread. Now I bought the 32GB mSD from SanDisk (also CLASS 2), copied the contents from 16GB card to 32 GB card and it works flawless.
Now let´s check: was there any one with a bricked CLASS 2 mSD ? Or only mSDs of higher class bricked ?
If so we have to aks some hardware-specialists here wether a class 4 or higher card gets bricked because of faster data throughput since these cards seem to be bricked PERMANENTLY ? There could be several physical reasons: Voltage, Ampere, Controller etc.
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I have already lost two micro sd cards one 8gb which I got with the phone and one 4gb which i brought it. Now I am using Nextar card 4gb. it seems to be fine till now, is there any problem with the scan disk cards?

Is this a reliable gadget after all...???
dwali said:
Same problem here,
my (HTC supplied) 8gb SanDisk SDHC card stopped working after about 3 weeks use.. I got "do you want to format the card to make it readable.."
Tried different phone (HTC Kaiser), cardreaders on 2 different laptops, winxp/win7/debian/knoppix even canon photocam.. Several restore programs/format programs.. Even tried putting it in the refrigerator over night..
All no luck.. I gave up! (now missing some nice vids from my son..)
sync my SD card almost daily now..
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Ok, now I am pissed. My situation is almost identical as yours - including the loss of my son´s new vids and pics... - and I have the HD2 for almost 2 months now.
Suddenly the 8Gb SDHC stock card just stopped working. It came from nowhere. I found it when I tried to watch a video and the player was not showing it. Then I got into file manager and the storage card was missing... after a soft reset, the appaling msg appeared: "Do you want to format this storage card to make it readable? This will permanently delete any files on the card."
What I did recently: installed uZardWebP and MS-NetC3.5 yesterday. But the SDHC access was alright after that.
I am surprised about how many ppl have been at the same situation.
What the heck is going on? Do you guys know if HTC has ever said something about the subject?
If I cannot recover the content of this card, it will be the first and the last HTC unit I will ever get my hands on. Four years using a Sony Ericsson and a Nokia unit with a SD card and no problems whatsoever.
Occurrence could be considered usual if there weren´t so many incidents like mine.
If someone has ANY idea about recovering the card data I would be very grateful. (although I am hopeless after some reading... ...)
Regards!
HTC Leo (HD2) / ROM 1.66.707.1 (76641) WWE / Radio 2.07.51.22_2 / Manila 2.5.19211619.0 - All stock - device´s never been flashed.

I have lost 2 cards. I haven't changed the rom.
Both sandisk I blamed ebay.
Maybe I shouldn't.

Andrew u.k.: Agreed. Maybe you really shouldn't blame ebay.
So far my card recovery was unsuccessful.
At least I won't need to read a lot to learn how to burn a new ROM as long as I won't use this "Card killer" as a serious gadget after all.

most the time a hard reset fixes it...better then loosing valuable sd info over settting up phone again(just happened to me after loading lots of apps on sd didnt read any sd hard reset and its all normal)