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Wow, talk about confusing, the A7 is a whole new world to me.
I've had computers for years, currently I have two running XP & 7, plus I have two laptops running XP & 7. I understand a lot when it comes to computers, but the A7 is so different.
I've downloaded & printed the User Manual and I have read it several times. I've read numerous posts on this forum and now I'm confused. I feel so dumb. Too many words that I don't understand. I want to learn everything I can about running every aspect of this tablet, but it's like just as I learn one thing, the next time it doesn't work that way.
I need more reading material. Whether it be links to posts, books to read, anything to help me understand what I am doing. I make notes of things I have read so that I will remember what to do next time. Post something to help me, PM me or even email me.
I will be so greatfull for any help given.
Thank you
The user manual you can download on elocity's site is useless because there is a lot of things that were never edited out to match the actual release version of the tablet.
As far as computer knowledge and relating it to the a7 or android in general, windows knowledge will not get you very far. A good working knowledge of Unix/Linux will give you a much better idea of what's going on behind the scenes since android is based on Linux (loosely, in my opinion) but still functions very similarly.
If you have any programming or web design experience, I would recommend downloading the android sdk and do some playing around with simple programs. Also with the sdk you can make a virtual android device to monkey around with without fear of messing up your new $300 toy I use eclipse as my development environment in Linux, not sure what a good windows alternative would be, but the structure of an android app is pretty easy to follow. There are example programs and source available on the android developer site developer.android.com if I remember correctly (same place to get the sdk). And the language itself tends to be pretty similar to writing a Java app.
I've probably missed the mark completely on the information you were trying to find, but if you are anything like me, you'll find hours (years if it gets you going down the Linux/Unix path lol) of obsession with just this info.
Hopefully it gets you on the opensource band wagon (the reason I love Linux/Android)
Wow...where to start? Well, you got that you turn it on and slide the lock to the dot to unlock. Then you are in a "home page". There are 5 of them. there are dots at the top of the screen showing which home page ur on. Usually the center one. Touch the screen and slide one way or the other to move the home pages.
If you touch the square whitish pad at the right of the screen with a bunch of darker squares in it, it takes you to your apps - the programs that do what you want.
If you touch an app it runs. Touch the return arrow just to the right of the screen to close the app and go back. It always takes u back.
You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
The home button at the right side of the screen always takes you to the center home page. - It DOES NOT close the app you have open at the moment.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
Based on Linux ... now I understand why this is confusing to me. I've never worked with it before, but I understand from fellow users, they like it better than Windows OS.
I've never done any programming or web design, but maybe it's not too late to learn something new.
I thank both of you for your info and appreciate everything you have said.
mrpete2u I really appreciated the details of your instructions. I know I'm a dummy at this, and I'm sure there are more of you guys out there to help.
Thanks
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You have to "root" the machine to get the good apps. Usually with Dexters mod. This is easy. You download the file, rename it to upgrade.zip, place it on a micro SD card, and go to settings/About Device/System Updates/ then touch update device.
you should get an app closer to close all of the un-closed apps for you.
Oh yea, android market place is the app you want to add all of the apps you want.
You get it with Dexters Mod (4.1 right now)
and there is tons more...............
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Another newbie jumping in....and trying to figure this out. To "root" the machine do I need to update the firmware from the elocity site or can I jump to Dexters right away. If so, where do I find that?
Thanks for your advice.
your a7 is rooted already with dexters mod or elocity firmware.
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
koalaw said:
My Kernel version is 2.6.32.9-svn2514
[email protected]#1
And Build # PBJ8000.2.0124
And ECv is 0.14
Would you mind explaining what these numbers mean, please?
Thank you
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You are one version in the rear, version now is 2.0133, most member her are running Dexter Mod 1.41 include myself an entirely different beast, stock Roman won't let me load Asphalt5 game so Dexter it is...A7 come from factor rooted Don't think any other tablet come out already root...
Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
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Your saying I need to upgrade one version
and that my A7 is already rooted??
Thank you for the answers.
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look here for Dexter mod forget about the stock rom ....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=890042
I have now updated to 2.0.0133
Now I need to figure out how to get the market icon so I can start looking for more apps & games. Tried downloading earlier and it keeps telling me that I have downloaded to my phone? I don't have a fancy phone to download to.
Here I am again confused, but what's new about that!!
There is a thread in the device section on adding market to stock rom.
Or you could just run elocitymod by Dexter.
I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
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I did run the elocity mod 1.41 and my firmware was updated to 2.0.0133
When I am on market.android's site, they want my phone number so they can download the app to my phone.
I'm trying to download the app to my tablet.
Am I confused or what
Thanks for answering me.
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Yes, yes you are lol
For all intents and purposes (as far as Google is concerned at least) your tablet is a phone.
Install market enabler on the a7 and fake a cell provider. The a7 should show up on the Google market website after that.
You didn't install dextermod and then apply eLocity update over it did you? Just want to be sure.
Your laughing at me .... that's ok ... right now I'm so new at this, I really don't care, in fact I am laughing at myself for being so dumb.
I went to dexter's site and downloaded a file called elocitymod1.41 and renamed it to update.zip and that is what I installed.
OK I will install market enabler
Thank you again for helping this dummy .... LOL
From the perceived tone of the post prior to my last one, I thought you were already at the laughing stage. I thought I was just laughing along, sorry for the mix up.
Sounds like you are doing everything right. I just wanted to make sure that we were dealing with a clean install of elocitymod, and not something mixed together by trying to ally another update on top of it.
Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
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Needless to say ... I am still confused.
Installed the market enabler, but I am not getting anywhere.
Why I try to install an app I get a message telling me there is no phone attached to this account and they want me to log in with another account. When I try creating a new account, there is no place to give a phone number and I get all those stupid messages again.
Just wondering if I am too dumb, because you all make this seem so easy, that maybe I should give up and figure out other ways to get apps and leave the android market site alone???
Sorry if I have frustration in my voice, but I guess I thought this would be easier.
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Why not just use market from the tablet? I wouldn't stress so much about trying to get it to work and remotely install from the web site.
Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
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Each time I go to the site, I am on my tablet. Mainly because it has a direct install button and not a download, so I want to be on the tablet to install on it.
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So are you hitting the Market icon (opening the Market app) or are you trying to open http://market.android.com/ in the web browser?
Hi everybody,
there are some new Android head units around with a bigger screen than the current double din ones. The resellers often calls them "Tesla Style Headunits". Sadly I've not found much information about it, yet. So I bought one on the SinglesDay in China via Taobao to check it out.
I already did a lot of research on the Internet about these things. But until now, I've not figured out who the actual manufacturer is. I think with these units it is the same like the MTCB/D, one manufacturer and lots of resellers. Here is a Link to a site that lists lot of theses units with the specs. But of course they are nearly the same. The only difference I saw was 1GB vs 2GB Ram and 16GB vs 32GB Rom. http://www.cusptech.com/index.php?c=products2
I tried to get to recovery mode, but no luck until now. But just in case something bricks while testing or to optimizing the Rom, it would be great to have the update.img. For that I contacted the reseller, but get the normal bla bla bla. Its stable (yes of course :silly and no updates are planned and so on.
On youku.com I've found a video, where someone did the update http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTU5NjkwNDEyNA==.html. So it must be possible somehow. But my Chinese is not the best, so I can't contact that guy
So if anybody has more informations of any type about these units, would be great if he shares.
For anyone who want more informations, here is a review on YouTube in Russian https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pa0T8AsY5k. If someone knows Russian, maybe he could contact iqnavi.
Thanks
i dont have any info, but i would like to see more units made for newer cars
There are some small updates.
First: Rooting via Kingroot is possible.
Second: I've managed to get the SystemApps and found the Bundle ID's com.choiceway for the launcher and com.szchoiceway for other apps like radio. But google it, did not bring any results
Further I was able to decompile the settings APK and extract all factory Pin codes. For now, I won't post it public, to keep the risk that the manufacturer maybe changes them, as low as possible. But if you are interested in them, you can PM me anytime. If interest is increasing, I will post them here of course.
Update 3
With the root I've found some config XML Files. The files are all called "customer_***.xml". There are 12 of them. I think they control the GUI for the different resellers. So I have merged all options into one XML-File and got all the GUIs available. The two "Customers" with the bigger XML-FIles are OCCAR (奥车凯) and Carcool (车酷时代). I don't know if they are manufactures or resellers, but my circuit board is also labeled with OCCAR, so I think they are manufacturers. Searching with the Chinese names I found the websites of these two. http://www.occar.cn and http://www.carcoolera.com / http://www.sz-carcool.com. I tryed to contact them via the WeChat App, but they did not response. Maybe they don't speak English.
Is there anybody here, who speaks Chinese and could contact them for me, please?
HI Airwin13!
I just ordered the same device for Ford Kuga 2014. I ordered it from other seller then you. Now DVD is on the way to me, but i got the firmware update.img from seller.
I have unpacked it with RKTOOLs and looked inside. Now there is 20 customers.xml files.
The first question is - can we add other languages then china and english?
Hi bonez,
thats awesome. One of the best news in 2017 until now Since the start of this thread and today, I contacted nearly 12 resellers and manufacturers, without any luck. Could you please upload the update.img somewhere for me? I also would like to inspect it. Maybe i can preroot it, so that Kingroot is not needed anymore. Did he also tell you how to get into the recovery mode?
So they managed to get 8 new Resellers. Lets see, maybe they also added some new Interfaces.
Adding languages should be possible i think. I decompiled some Apps Like the Launcher.apk and Navisettings.apk. These two are building the main GUI. And there are lot of strings to translate . Examples are at the Attachments. Then there are of course even more Apps like the Radio, Music, Movie and so on. So I think its possible, but means a lot of work.
I will send you a PM with the pin codes for the factory settings.
Great to finally see another user with these units :good:
Hi Airwin23.
I also purchased these Tesla Head units for my 2017 Toyota LC.
I too wanted to try and optimize these units as with 1GB ram things can get slow.
However I would like to note that out of the box my unit was already on version 5.1.1 however still shows up as KitKat ? It also has a date of 201612xx which is later? Hope this helps.
Also how did you root ? Really don't want to brick my new unit.
Also a interesting note is the ram mention 625/2G where on your screen shot shows 1GB. However when I look into running apps, my total ram is 1GB so not sure what is happening here.
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Hi Airwin23.
I also purchased these Tesla Head units for my 2017 Toyota LC.
I too wanted to try and optimize these units as with 1GB ram things can get slow.
However I would like to note that out of the box my unit was already on version 5.1.1 however still shows up as KitKat ? It also has a date of 201612xx which is later? Hope this helps.
Also how did you root ? Really don't want to brick my new unit.
Also a interesting note is the ram mention 625/2G where on your screen shot shows 1GB. However when I look into running apps, my total ram is 1GB so not sure what is happening here.
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These units use a Rockchip RK3188/PX3 which can take up to 2GB RAM. MTCB/C/D units also use this chipset and several of us in the MTCB forums have bought new RAM chips and upgraded to 2GB, from the pics it looks very likely that these units would take the same RAM modules.
Hey Wadyas,
I too wanted to try and optimize these units as with 1GB ram things can get slow.
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you are right, 1GB of RAM is really not the optimum, 2GB would be way better. But I think typos1 is also right and an RAM upgrade should be possible. If you are interested in that, I can took a picture of the other side from the mainboard, there you can see the RAM.
However I would like to note that out of the box my unit was already on version 5.1.1 however still shows up as KitKat ? It also has a date of 201612xx which is later? Hope this helps.
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Where do you see thats its version 5.1.1? Could you make a screenshot? Until now I have only seen KitKat Versions of these units, would be cool if they updated it.
Also how did you root ? Really don't want to brick my new unit.
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I rooted with the Kingroot.app. But you should be careful with that, once rooted its very hard to get rid of the Kingroot App again. Factory reset does not help in this case.
Also a interesting note is the ram mention 625/2G where on your screen shot shows 1GB. However when I look into running apps, my total ram is 1GB so not sure what is happening here.
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I think you should trust the Android information screen. The YXZ/2G Info is, as far as i know until now, only a string inside the Navisettings.apk and outputs the info depending on the vendor set in the customer.xml. So I would say its fake and your unit also has 1GB of RAM. You could also check it with the CPU-Z App.
Andriod 5.1.1
Airwin13 said:
Hey Wadyas,
you are right, 1GB of RAM is really not the optimum, 2GB would be way better. But I think typos1 is also right and an RAM upgrade should be possible. If you are interested in that, I can took a picture of the other side from the mainboard, there you can see the RAM.
Where do you see thats its version 5.1.1? Could you make a screenshot? Until now I have only seen KitKat Versions of these units, would be cool if they updated it.
I rooted with the Kingroot.app. But you should be careful with that, once rooted its very hard to get rid of the Kingroot App again. Factory reset does not help in this case.
I think you should trust the Android information screen. The YXZ/2G Info is, as far as i know until now, only a string inside the Navisettings.apk and outputs the info depending on the vendor set in the customer.xml. So I would say its fake and your unit also has 1GB of RAM. You could also check it with the CPU-Z App.
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Spoke to the reseller. He mentioned they made the update to fix the issues with mirrorlink. Not sure about this as I could not get this working. Advisers to install MOB Interconnection service.??
Also how do I post the screen shots ? Usinf mobile version? Any other quick way?
Do you upgrade the Ram to 2GB?
So did the reseller send you an update file or it was already installed, when you bought the unit?
Sorry I don't know what the "MOB Interconnection service" is. But I did some research on Google. Looks like it's a Framework used by the Mirrorlink (EasyConnect) App. But I don't know, how to fix that.
That's a bit difficult, because the statusbar is hidden by these units. You could install an APP from the Playstore or just do it oldschool and took a picture with your smartphone
No, I'm still on 1GB. At the moment I don't have planed to upgrade.
I have two update files for these units. The units I ordered are 10.4" Vertical oriented for 2015 Mustangs. I was able to get the software from the supplier, and I would be happy to provide people with the files, but I'm not allowed to post links to my Google Drive or Dropbox.
Also, we have already extracted the img files and checked the build.prop and everything we could find, but I'm not savvy enough to know, is there a way to remove the password for advanced options on the unit, by using the img files?
Oh thats cool. Could you mybe send me the links via PM, then I can post them for you if you like.
Why would you like to remove them? I will send you the codes.
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So did the reseller send you an update file or it was already installed, when you bought the unit?
Sorry I don't know what the "MOB Interconnection service" is. But I did some research on Google. Looks like it's a Framework used by the Mirrorlink (EasyConnect) App. But I don't know, how to fix that.
That's a bit difficult, because the statusbar is hidden by these units. You could install an APP from the Playstore or just do it oldschool and took a picture with your smartphone
No, I'm still on 1GB. At the moment I don't have planed to upgrade.
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No came pre-installed. I asked for the update file but he didn't have it. I've got screen shots in the below link which I hope helps.
dropbox.com/sh/is9en84yi7lilr2/AADVXVArAvkdIZQI7-4DyZhia?dl=0[/url]
You mentioned that it will be different unrooting. Are you saying this will just take time or impossible? I want to disable allot of the programs to save Ram is that makes sense or is there a better way to do this?
Does anyone think they could find out what a PIN code is by having the source files of the image? I have tried all of the common ones, to no avail.
You mentioned that it will be different unrooting. Are you saying this will just take time or impossible? I want to disable allot of the programs to save Ram is that makes sense or is there a better way to do this?
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Rooting is possible via Kingroot, like I said. It's just hard to get rid of it again, if you don't trust the Developer of Kingroot for example or because of any other reason.
If you only want to save RAM and not Space on the ROM, then I would recommend to first try to uninstall or disable the unwanted apps via the settings menu. If you don't know how to do that, maybe this helps https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puTFvKFNyH8
Many thanks to PatrickHenninger!!! He organized two images. Since he is not allowed to post links at the moment, he asked me to do that for him.
PatrickHenninger said:
Right now I have the "base" image on my Dropbox here
The more recent update is supposed to improve iPhone Mirroring functionality, and is here on my Google Drive: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-1iB2_iueMEZml0VENyMU5XMVk/view?usp=drivesdk
I will try to get them both on Drive, but the older one seemed less relevant. ... and thanks for posting the links, hopefully they'll help someone on here.
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Until now, I have not flashed or inspected these images. So I can't give any further informations at the moment. If you decide to flash it, you are using it at your own risk. I'm not responsible for any damage at your units.
Airwin13 said:
Many thanks to PatrickHenninger!!! He organized two images. Since he is not allowed to post links at the moment, he asked me to do that for him.
Until now, I have not flashed or inspected these images. So I can't give any further informations at the moment. If you decide to flash it, you are using it at your own risk. I'm not responsible for any damage at your units.
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bad links
Sorry, my mistake. Please try again.
After spending time with those files this weekend, the first is just the 4.4.4 image that came on my unit, the 2nd file is the 5.1 upgrade. The downside is, they are designed around the Mustang, so it will have a Mustang-themed boot screen, as well as a Mustang in the launcher.
Hello,
I recently purchased this unit:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001723766214.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.52f54c4dcVJLhn
The install was a little difficult but went okay. For some reason when I try to login to login to google playstore it automatically closes. I have tried allowing app permissions and clearing storage and cache. It says it is running Android 10 API 29 (qp1a.190711.l020). It has carlink installed but does not seem to recognize my phone. I have managed to get the Bluetooth working, but I guess I should have done more research and gotten a unit that other people have. Do I risk bricking the device if I try to flash another version of android onto it? I like the DSP and some of the features but I can't even log in to google. Also could someone tell me if this is MTCD or the other? The company is responding to my questions so far but it was really late in China when I told them I can't log in to google, so hopefully they message me with a fix tomorrow. There seems to be 4 instances of an app called "Launcher 3" and an app called "App store" that says it could ruin my device if I try to uninstall so I just disabled it. This thing seemed to have all the features on paper, 8 cores, 128gb ram, 4gb rom, DSP, dash cam, rear view cam, optical audio out, 4g antenna, external sim card, gps antenna, 5 g capability... you name it. They "accidentally" sent me the 64 gb version instead of 128gb but they sent me a free dash cam and tpms to make up for the mistake (which they denied at first). If anyone knows why google would be doing this and a fix please let me know. Big let down for 450 bucks.
Please post a picture of the system about screen for your unit, that would help determine if it is MTCD/E. You should be able to find such a screen in the settings.
You're pretty lucky that they're responding to your inquiries. There is a chance that your head unit is not running Android 10 and may be fake in many regards (e.g. running much earlier version and "claiming" to be Android 10)).
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Please post a picture of the system about screen for your unit, that would help determine if it is MTCD/E. You should be able to find such a screen in the settings.
You're pretty lucky that they're responding to your inquiries. There is a chance that your head unit is not running Android 10 and may be fake in many regards (e.g. running much earlier version and "claiming" to be Android 10)).
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Thank you for the quick response. Yeah, at least they are responding. If you click the add it looks so legit with the 8 core 64 gb 4 gb ram. But my home screen looks nothing like what they advertise.View attachment Home screen.webp
Please scroll the view up on the about screen and take another picture. It is hard to see with what looks like plastic film on the screen. Would like to see the MCU version and perhaps additional information. Thank you for posting the first picture.
Oh and my pleasure to try to help you. We need to determine for sure what the head unit is and if it's MTCD/E I along with others here in the forums would be glad to try to answer your questions and help you resolve the issues you're having.
Sorry it's super bright out. Here ya go.
The only units I could find that use that particular CPU (UIS7862) are Joying branded head units. Their units are not MTCD/E. That being said, this thread probably should be moved to Android Head Units as the discussion in that forum are for non MTCx head units.
I will offer you this suggestion regarding the Google login issue, try opening the YouTube app or Google search app and try logging in from one of those. Alternatively locate the Accounts section in the settings and see if you can login to Google from there. That may help with the Google Play launching issue. If you can get GP to launch then you will be able to get Play Services updated and other applicable updates to make the Google apps/ecosystem work.
Once you get Google Play working, I would suggest installing an app like CPU-Z to see what your system consists of.
One more thing, welcome to the XDA community.
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The only units I could find that use that particular CPU (UIS7862) are Joying branded head units. Their units are not MTCD/E. That being said, this thread probably should be moved to Android Head Units as the discussion in that forum are for non MTCx head units.
I will offer you this suggestion regarding the Google login issue, try opening the YouTube app or Google search app and try logging in from one of those. Alternatively locate the Accounts section in the settings and see if you can login to Google from there. That may help with the Google Play launching issue. If you can get GP to launch then you will be able to get Play Services updated and other applicable updates to make the Google apps/ecosystem work.
Once you get Google Play working, I would suggest installing an app like CPU-Z to see what your system consists of.
One more thing, welcome to the XDA community.
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For sure, I have heard the Joying are decent. I haven't been able to get it to interface with my phone other than viewing it as files. I cant do the mirror screen split screen that is advertised in the AliExpress ad. I tried to download Zlink apk and install it (disabled third party app restriction) and it said not installed. Maybe I need an older version than 4.0.6? Unfortunately none of your tips worked, even the google one, but thank you so much for taking the time to assist me. Hopefully the seller has a fix for this, as I am not great with android.
Requested via report to move to Android Head units forum.
Sorry that my suggestions did not work for you. I have asked the forum moderators to move this thread to the Android Head units forum where maybe someone in that forum maybe has experience with the same or similar head units as yours. Suggest searching the forums here as I'm confident that somebody has solved the Google login problems you are experiencing.
Your head unit should just work out of the box. I would not recommend updating firmware or such major changes before getting your unit working at a minimum as you expect. Thing with that is how will you know if additional problems that you might encounter are from the update vs what you have now?
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Already done same before. Thank you.
By selecting one of the variants of launcher as the default launcher app you should be able to get the user interface to look as shown on the ad where you bought the unit. Since these devices are sold under many brand names, they often include many different launchers which is what provides the user experience seen when the system boots up.
You should find a default apps selection in the settings where you can pick the default launcher.
One more suggestion that might get it where you can login to Google would be to locate the factory reset option in the settings. Since you couldn't install any new apps on it anyway, not much to lose customization wise.
I believe there is a system patch for the FYT IS7862 units. My IDoing came working so I assume it was already patched, but if you head to the Joying thread you'll see posts about a system patch. Not sure that patch will work for your unit, I think that's what you need.
Actually, they are being pretty helpful. They just sent me an update I have yet to install (kind of afraid as it is working now and I realized I don't really need google integration. Here is a screenshot. Good to know it is a FYT IS7862 unit.
Here is the new firmware she sent me and instructions. Honestly kinda scared. She didn't tell me what I am upgrading to, she just said new version. Maybe someone could check this RAR out if they have time?
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/2f...6e4ab0a57f920b634846c7f920210515022252/aac7ff
Just for fun I went to the download page and did a screenshot of the page. I then ran the screenshot through the Google translate app. With the transition set to go from Chinese to English, the download link says "overseas system. rar".
You could possibly run the PNG file that you attached to your post thru Google translate and maybe figure out the filenames. The picture is not clear enough to do the same as the picture resolution is pretty bad. Was hoping maybe the download filename would offer some clues about what the rar file contains.
Maybe you could request from whoever sent you the link, an English version of the download if available. Granted they say something about English text showing up in green after the flash. I could totally understand your apprehension since you cannot read the filenames.
I could unrar the file and try getting filename translations, might be helpful.
Man, I really appreciate you looking into that for me. I went ahead and bit the bullet and did it and it booted up with a different theme and reset to factory settings. Seems to be dropping my home wifi connection now. I havent tried putting a sim card in the unit yet, as I only have a micro sim from my tablet. I asked her several times what we are upgrading and she said it's not the android version, but a fix to make google login work. So, I went to login to google and instead of getting hung up and crashing after the "checking info..." screen it actually had a box to type my gmail address and let me type it and press login. Then it said "Cannot contact google servers, try again later.
This 1.4 GB file seems large for a small fix. There were like three ZIP files in the rar. Also, when I look at what is using memory on the unit there are like 10 apps I didn't open in the background. Makes me feel like the mfg. has some spyware or malware on the unit. Isn't it commonplace to completely wipe one of these units clean and install a different version of android? Why couldn't I just install android 11? Is it becasue I wont be able to find the apks for unique apps and functionality on there?
They usually (never) provide system patches that fix one specific thing. By providing the whole system update it still makes it impossible to know exactly what's being installed.
Unfortunately it's not so simple to go from one version of Android to another as they intentionally make it difficult to do. It kind of puts a lifespan on these units. There's always gonna be something broken or something that will eventually break rendering the unit useless or just be a flaw that you end up accepting. Plus by limiting the Android version its planned obsolescence as updates won't always be available forever.
Maybe and it's a big maybe you can find an alternative ROM for your particular system right here on XDA. Those are becoming more and more rare because of numerous factors however.
I wouldn't recommend logging into the head unit with a Google account that has a payment method associated with it. Maybe create a whole new Google account just in case? Also you could try going somewhere that you can get free public WiFi (e.g WalMart, McDonald's, etc). All that would do is confirm it works, for what it's worth.
Regarding the wifi connectivity issue, was it able to connect to the same wifi before applying that provided update? Is the wifi signal strength good? It's likely connecting to the wifi but not getting an IP address and other connection parameters and disconnecting on failure. There is an advanced workaround that involves manually setting the network connection parameters (e.g IP address, etc) but you'd need to be comfortable with doing that sort of thing. Let me know if interested.
Despite the update essentially doing a factory reset as part of the firmware installation, I suggest manually doing a factory reset. Maybe even do the reset a couple times just to be sure. Truth is that the device should just work out of the box without the extra contortions.
Apparently the Google login problem is a common issue and there are claims of Google hacks on these units as well:
Post in thread 'New Joying Android 10 UIS7862 Octacore 1.8GHz (4GB RAM, 64GB flash)' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...8ghz-4gb-ram-64gb-flash.4168069/post-85003075
I was looking at one of these on Aliexpress and found this thread. @CaliBurr, do you have any updates on how this is unit is working out for you?
I recently purchased one of these head units from China. I like it. It is snappy and works well. After purchasing item, the seller contacted me and said that I needed to pay another 20USD for reprogramming, because of the kind of A/C in my Ram 1500. OK.. I found it odd, but accepted it.
When the unit arrived and I installed it, I was slightly disappointed.
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I was hoping that the software would be tailored to the vehicle. Instead I'm getting these generic images showing when the car door is open and the image of what looks like an Aston Martin. I asked the seller if these can be changed and he said No.
I happen to know that the answer is false as if I would have bought the unit from Phoenix or Linkswell, I would have this..
Clearly that is a Ram.. and the other icons in the youtube video were also correct.
Anyone here knows how to change the vehicle icons?
Also, the reversing camera seems to be of a very low resolution compared to the crystal clear image I used to get with my factory 8" display. Would appreciate help in that area.
I'm not completely upset. These aren't deal breakers in me using the unit. I just wished for a little bit more attention to detail.
Is there anyone that can help me with getting my head unit to appear more factory?
1. I would like to change the vehicle icons to show the Ram or at least a truck.
2. I would like to get the camera to be more clearer.
3. Maybe change the theme a little.
Well...
The car pictures are included in the firmware and you can´t change that yourself without rooting the device, searching for the system apps which includes the different car pictures, creating your own pictures in the same shape, size and so on and put them back into the apps. You need to have a good knowledge of PSP to position and move the own pictures to the same view as the given one.
You probably need a couple of days to get that working and not look crappy.
Example: You need to create pictures for each door opening, you need to have pictures for all of them of the car from the exact same angle and this is needed for all pictures you want to exchange. Nearly not possible.
The cam picture is related to your camera. Seems that it is not of a good quality with low resolution.
Theme changes... forget it. No chance.
rigattoni said:
Well...
The car pictures are included in the firmware and you can´t change that yourself without rooting the device, searching for the system apps which includes the different car pictures, creating your own pictures in the same shape, size and so on and put them back into the apps. You need to have a good knowledge of PSP to position and move the own pictures to the same view as the given one.
You probably need a couple of days to get that working and not look crappy.
Example: You need to create pictures for each door opening, you need to have pictures for all of them of the car from the exact same angle and this is needed for all pictures you want to exchange. Nearly not possible.
The cam picture is related to your camera. Seems that it is not of a good quality with low resolution.
Theme changes... forget it. No chance.
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Thank you for the reply. It sounds like a mission to root the device and change the icons, but I guess vendors like Phoenix and Linkswell have multiple employees that can do that easily.
As for the cam picture, on my stock 8" factory Uconnect, it was really clear. Only after switching to the android unit, is the picture quite a low resolution. It is still usable though.
These vendors don´t do anything.
The software development is outsourced to another company and they just work on requirements. To adapt a software to your specific car... costs a lot of money, because the graphics need to be taken and worked on... Even don´t think about the possibility to get this changed by the vendor.
If you want to get it... you need to do it yourself. I started a while ago with it and gave up after some days because I did not get the relevant pictures in the right angle.
Ah one thing additional: You are not able to update your unit afterwards, otherwise all your changes are lost.
Example: Only for the door thingi, you need to create these new files:
@knightjp You will find these and all the others in the launcher.apk.
The files I showed are in \res\drawable-w720dp-hdpi-v13, but you need to look first if one change in there changes anything on your radio. Not a fast thing... and you need to use the radio on bench instead in car, because you need a long time.
@rigattoni Thank you for the information. How do you access launcher.apk?
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@rigattoni Thank you for the information. How do you access launcher.apk?
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Just use 7zip and unzip the apk on the desktop to work on it.
Attention: You need to exchange the files in the zip file itself (APK is just the same as a zip file).
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Just use 7zip and unzip the apk on the desktop to work on it.
Attention: You need to exchange the files in the zip file itself (APK is just the same as a zip file).
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Thank you for the info. I mean where would I find the launcher.apk so that I can make a copy of it to a USB and then work on it. I'm browsing through the file manager on my unit and I can't seem to find it.
Sorry.. I'm new all of this..
This are the details of my unit. I did manage to find a group on Facebook where one guy said that he could help. But then he said that my unit is a 1600x1200 resolution display and he doesn't have the custom firmware ready for these units yet.
Tesla Style. Firmware and HeadUnits | Facebook
Custom firmware for PX3/PX6 Tesla style headunits for ANY vehicle types. Supported Android versions: 7.1, 8.1, 9 Donation link: https://boosty.to/teslafw.
www.facebook.com
Maybe he can help you.
rigattoni said:
You need to use a file manager as FX with root right add-on. With the internal file manager you won't find anything... And the unit needs to be rooted.
I don't need anything I just sold the unit.
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Ok.. How do I root the device?
Sorry.. I’m just new to all of this.
knightjp said:
Ok.. How do I root the device?
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upload your firmware. maybe it is possible to root.
localos said:
upload your firmware. maybe it is possible to root.
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How do I do that? I do have to apologize. I'm totally a newbie at this.
Do you think that this will work for my unit?
Gen 4 2014-2018 Ram Radio Updates (DGPU10-4RR-4A) - LinksWell, Inc.
Download Links for Update files: Dropbox Link
www.linkswellinc.com
Well... I am not in the position to verify that this is the right firmware for your particular unit.
You need to ask there, not here.
No one on this forum would be able to answer that.
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Well... I am not in the position to verify that this is the right firmware for your particular unit.
You need to ask there, not here.
No one on this forum would be able to answer that.
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I've checked with Linkswell. They said that the firmware only matches the radios they sell. Not sure I believe them since their radios are made in the same factory that mine was. They just put their own firmware on it.
Its fine. This group on Facebook have custom firmware that look really good and pretty much factory.
Tesla Style. Firmware and HeadUnits | Facebook
Custom firmware for PX3/PX6 Tesla style headunits for ANY vehicle types. Supported Android versions: 7.1, 8.1, 9 Donation link: https://boosty.to/teslafw.
www.facebook.com
I'm happy to wait until they've got something out.
@knightjp
These units are too different as it would be possible to flash something from another supplier.
If you would have a MTC* unit it would be easy to exchange between different suppliers, but not for these units.
I even would not rely on any facebook groups... Too much idiots running around there. If you want to change something which is not done by the supplier, just do it yourself. You just need to make sure that you are able to reset the stuff if somethings going wrong.
Even to flash any firmware provided by someone else should only be done if the original firmware is available for getting the radio back working. Don´t use any firmware without having the original firmware.
@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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See you back here asking how to recover your bricked unit
knightjp said:
@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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I go fully with Marchnz.
At least if you not really know what you are doing and make an own question mark behind each instruction, you should not change anything yourself. Keep it as is and be lucky with the performance. Those small things like a different car on the screen... well... You loose more if you brick the unit.
The problem is, that this firmware needs to be made for your paricular head unit involving the MCU and built in hardware and not just for a specific car. Wrong firmware can brick the unit and if you are not able to help yourself out of this dilemma... you would be lost, because none of the current user would be able to explain the unit specific way to get out of this issue.
So I would say: If you don´t know out of memory to root this device and don´t have the original MCU and firmware... kepp your fingers away from the internals.... just some famous 2 cent.
Hi Guys!
My new android head unit has a very ugly and poor designed software for using while driving, so I'm already thinking about trying a custom firmware or return it and be back to my stereo + cellphone + BT.
Maybe if I list my issues if you can tell me if a custom rom can solve my problems.
If I can't solve it, maybe it can be useful for developers.
1- Sound switching: Some apps like the FM radio do not pause when another app try to use the audio output, so if a want to run, for example, the Deezer, I have to stop the radio first and only after that I can play the music. (could not find another good radio app)
It is not only annoying, but it is kinda dangerous to look soo much to the screen while driving. In the ideal scenario, when I choose the source using the steering wheel control, the chosen app will play in it last state (the music play keep playing the last song, the radio play the last station etc).
2- Automation: For example, in my original stereo, if I remove the USB stick while playing it will go back to the radio or bluetooth and keep playing music. And if I insert it again, it will detect that is the same USB stick and start to play from the same music again.
3- Steering wheel button mapping: Some apps (mostly the radio again) do not respond to the same logic as the others softwares, so, if I press the pause button, mostly apps will stop/pause playing, but the radio will try to find the next station.
Another problem is that the unit wheel software do not map long pressing the keys, so the numbers of commands are very limited.
4- Fast and accurate volume control: That problem is addressed by the Agama launcher using a gesture on the central ring on the main screen and it works very well, almost like a physical button. But again I could not use the Agama as my solution cause I cannot use the steering wheel control to change the source. In the Agama, If I press the source button to go the bluetooth receiver or the radio, it will stay on the app screen and I have to press the home button to have the main screen again.
If you made it until here, LOL, I think it may work something like this:
- You could choose the main apps to be selected by the source button (kinda like it is now, but you can choose how many sources you have).
- In the SWC (steering wheel control) some buttons would be global and others could be send to the application on the source "slot". Long pressing mapping too.
- Some commands of the SWC could change depending on the chosen source, so it can be more useful in different apps.
- Automation: if you are stopped, you can use the apps and the screen as a normal tablet, but if you reach a chosen speed, the unit will go to the home screen and the apps will run in second plane, unless it is in the list of apps that can stay on the main screen while moving (custom).
- Widgets to control radio and music apps could share the same area on main screen and will be show depending on the source choose.
- When moving, the main screen could priorize gestures to control main functions like volume and screen brightness or turn screen off. The gesture priority could stay on until the first single touch gesture. If you are stopped, the first single touch will enable the "tablet mode" again to permit full use of the unit. The gesture priority would be back as soon you reach the set speed again.
Hope it can be useful. =)
Better you return it. ;-)
TorstenH said:
Better you return it. ;-)
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Sorry to say, but Torsten is right.
Nevertheless... You even did not tell anything about your unit.
What make, which MCU and of course the current used firmware.
May be one would be able to give some answers...
rigattoni said:
Sorry to say, but Torsten is right.
Nevertheless... You even did not tell anything about your unit.
What make, which MCU and of course the current used firmware.
May be one would be able to give some answers...
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Sorry, I did read the rules, but when I was trying other launchers, the unit stopped to show the screen after the google logo.
At the time I started to write that giant message I was waiting to the seller to send me the recovery files/procedures, so I would be able look at the MCU model and put it in the specific forum. Happen that he did not sent it yet and I could do it. =)
If I can use your patience for one last question before the weekend, can I run those ROMs in virtual machines to see how they work? I do not have much time to decide to return it, so I'm trying to make the best use of this time.
It is 2-din 9 inches generic capacitive buttons unit with automatic Android Auto and Carplay. (2g+32g 4 cores uis8141 CPU). It has a very good screen, it is very fluida and looks amazing in the car. My main problem it is not drive friendly.
I'm not that laze guy. I did watch and read tons of reviews in forums before decide to buy and honestly, I was not expecting to looking for a custom rom so soon, cause nobody tells how it is not drive friendly. To me, I would only change the launcher for a better looking one.
Another option would be keeping it as a learn lesson and join the development group to try yo make my own mods.
Thank you for any extra help!
Rogerio Prazeres said:
Sorry, I did read the rules, but when I was trying other launchers, the unit stopped to show the screen after the google logo.
At the time I started to write that giant message I was waiting to the seller to send me the recovery files/procedures, so I would be able look at the MCU model and put it in the specific forum. Happen that he did not sent it yet and I could do it. =)
If I can use your patience for one last question before the weekend, can I run those ROMs in virtual machines to see how they work? I do not have much time to decide to return it, so I'm trying to make the best use of this time.
It is 2-din 9 inches generic capacitive buttons unit with automatic Android Auto and Carplay. (2g+32g 4 cores uis8141 CPU). It has a very good screen, it is very fluida and looks amazing in the car. My main problem it is not drive friendly.
I'm not that laze guy. I did watch and read tons of reviews in forums before decide to buy and honestly, I was not expecting to looking for a custom rom so soon, cause nobody tells how it is not drive friendly. To me, I would only change the launcher for a better looking one.
Another option would be keeping it as a learn lesson and join the development group to try yo make my own mods.
Thank you for any extra help!
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There is unfortunately no single custom ROM for these UIS8141.
There are 2-3 other threads talking about these units, but that´s it. Just search in this forum for UIS8141.
By the way... Even if you find any other firmware for these units, I would not recommend to use it. You need to give the Chinese guys at least some time to answer. They start working at least 6hrs earlier (for Europe) and leave work 4-6 hrs earlier than we do.
Wait until Monday and send a reminder early in the morning, that your unit has stopped working.
Rogerio Prazeres said:
At the time I started to write that giant message I was waiting to the seller to send me the recovery files/procedures, so I would be able look at the MCU model and put it in the specific forum. Happen that he did not sent it yet and I could do it. =)
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I hope you've written them a short, simple and easy to understand message. Often enough their answers doesn't fit to the question.
rigattoni said:
There is unfortunately no single custom ROM for these UIS8141.
There are 2-3 other threads talking about these units, but that´s it. Just search in this forum for UIS8141.
By the way... Even if you find any other firmware for these units, I would not recommend to use it. You need to give the Chinese guys at least some time to answer. They start working at least 6hrs earlier (for Europe) and leave work 4-6 hrs earlier than we do.
Wait until Monday and send a reminder early in the morning, that your unit has stopped working.
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Thank you! They send me file to reload the firmware using an USB stick and it is working again.
I was think all those Chinese tablet style units had similar software, like the cellphones works, but the Android is very modified. Next time I will try to buy one with a more popular CPU and firmware.
I do realize if I use the original launcher and apps and change only the standard navigation app it works fine, with a very limited interface in terms of customization and information, but works.
The most interesting part (in a bad way) is the system does not allow android widgets to work, so any launcher like Vivid that uses widgets to do custom screens are useless.
I also kinda make it work using the Agama launcher and the NavRadio to control the radio but still a not so fluid experience. The original is "better".
Thank you anyway, you did help a lot.
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I hope you've written them a short, simple and easy to understand message. Often enough their answers doesn't fit to the question.
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It is a good tip. I'm not having problem to talk to the Chineses on AliExpress. They just answer only on question per day. LOL
Since this seller in specific sells a lot of these units, I was expecting a better custom service, but it is very crude. No site, no online detailed user manuals... they did send me a very poor quality video on youtube to show how to force the USB upgrade. The seller store is LEHX.
Thank you for the help!
Rogerio Prazeres said:
It is a good tip. I'm not having problem to talk to the Chineses on AliExpress. They just answer only on question per day. LOL
Since this seller in specific sells a lot of these units, I was expecting a better custom service, but it is very crude. No site, no online detailed user manuals... they did send me a very poor quality video on youtube to show how to force the USB upgrade. The seller store is LEHX.
Thank you for the help!
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Same problem with other sellers. The Chinese support is very weak and they don't know much about the devices they are selling. Especially if the question is not standard you often get no valuable answer.
Rogerio Prazeres said:
Thank you! They send me file to reload the firmware using an USB stick and it is working again.
I was think all those Chinese tablet style units had similar software, like the cellphones works, but the Android is very modified. Next time I will try to buy one with a more popular CPU and firmware.
I do realize if I use the original launcher and apps and change only the standard navigation app it works fine, with a very limited interface in terms of customization and information, but works.
The most interesting part (in a bad way) is the system does not allow android widgets to work, so any launcher like Vivid that uses widgets to do custom screens are useless.
I also kinda make it work using the Agama launcher and the NavRadio to control the radio but still a not so fluid experience. The original is "better".
Thank you anyway, you did help a lot.
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You may try Fcc Car Launcher. This is a widget based launcher and works with a lot of different CPU combination.
By the way:
Exactly this is the reason I buy from Klyde.
I can get in contact with Klyde via WeChat and if I have something special, I have a direct connection to the developer and get information or new firmware within 1-2 days.
I don´t buy this kind of things on AliExpress. I never did that and I won´t do that at all. Cheap small things for some bucks... okay, but nothing over $100.
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You may try Fcc Car Launcher. This is a widget based launcher and works with a lot of different CPU combination.
By the way:
Exactly this is the reason I buy from Klyde.
I can get in contact with Klyde via WeChat and if I have something special, I have a direct connection to the developer and get information or new firmware within 1-2 days.
I don´t buy this kind of things on AliExpress. I never did that and I won´t do that at all. Cheap small things for some bucks... okay, but nothing over $100.
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Me too. I think was the first time I bough something over $50 on Aliexpress. Here in Brazil, if you buy anything under $50 for personal use you do not need to pay import fees.
About the Fcc Car Launcher, I did realize the unit are not allowing widgets from any source to be installed, so none of those nice Launchers work as intended.
But it is getting better. The radio integration is better using the NavRadio app from here and now I'm trying to work around the widget problem.
Found some users here that are unlocking the widgets installation on the Amazon Fire Tablet using the ADB and the config files looks identical to mine. If I can find a USB drive that works, maybe I can make the widigets work and make it look a little better.
After the initial frustration, I'm kinda enjoying tinkering with it. Still not sure if I will install it cause I'm very serious about security while driving.
Thank you again. Regards!
By the way, the only reason I'm insisting on it is cause I think it fits very well on my car (a mk2 Ford Focus) and since it has native Carplay, maybe it will be not so bad to use. We will see...
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