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Things I hate about my Desire Z and Android

I have just moved over to Android after using WM for over 4 years and I am starting to have buyers remorse because Android 2.2 cant do some basic things natively and even with an app.
I hate the following things about my phone and its OS:
1) No file explorer
2) No Microsoft office bundled which means I cant view or create office documents. Most of the office apps I can see in the market say they will allow you view and edit documents but cant find one that will let you create a new document (Quickoffice is a complete waste of my time)
3) No Notes
4) The position of the microUSB slot (its a pain for me because my phone is my SatNav)
5) Cant set up Yahoomail in Mail and even after downloading the Yahoo Mail app, I cant view picture attachments.
6) When playing some videos, voice and video are well out of sync.
7) Volume is too low (Sound quality seems ok though)

1- there are lots of file explorer apps in the market.
2 - you can open gdocs in the browser and create docs
3 - search for colornotes in market. The are apps which does sync in the web too
4 - better than some proprietary plugs and cables used by some devices.
5 - try to config it in the native htc mail app, not the yahoo app.
6 - yes... sound is not loud as we want, it's like the palm treo 650

lombardo8 said:
I have just moved over to Android after using WM for over 4 years and I am starting to have buyers remorse because Android 2.2 cant do some basic things natively and even with an app.
I hate the following things about my phone and its OS:
1) No file explorer
2) No Microsoft office bundled which means I cant view or create office documents. Most of the office apps I can see in the market say they will allow you view and edit documents but cant find one that will let you create a new document (Quickoffice is a complete waste of my time)
3) No Notes
3) The position of the microUSB slot (its a pain for me because my phone is my SatNav)
4) Cant set up Yahoomail in Mail and even after downloading the Yahoo Mail app, I cant view picture attachments.
5) When playing some videos, voice and video are well out of sync.
6) Volume is too low (Sound quality seems ok though)
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1) Tons of free ones in the market some (astro, IO, Linda etc)
2) Try thinkfree, worked well for me on my vibrant http://product.thinkfree.com/mobile/android
3) Again, tons of option in the market. I currently use colornote which is great.
4) I agree with this. wish the micro usb slot was at the bottom of the device.
5) sorry cant help you here. I use gmail. did you try downloading K9? (mail app in the market - never used it but heard good things about it)
6) Download mvideoplayer - i've been using it for a week and its great
7) Tell people around you to shut up (just playing). yeah the speaker is cheese on the G2, but I hardly use it anyway so its a small sacrifice for me.

http://iphone-developers.com
JK
But most of those you mentioned there is eithe a fix or app available

try setting it up as imap account
imap.mail.yahoo.com 143
smtp.mail.yahoo.com 25
got it to work with a lot of sprint phones
EDITt:
My mistake on port #
double checked settings on my phone and it worked

Thanx guys for all the constructive replies. I was just letting off some steam. Its hard to adapt to change sometimes. Like I said I have been using WM for over 4 years and it can get difficult if something has worked in a certain way all this while and all of a sudden it changes. I am going to try some of ur suggestions and i,ll report back on how I get on.

i feel your pain. I started with a mda ended with a tp2 then went to my g2

Hello everyone
I too had similar issues with Android but with time (1month) I got used to it, almost.
Not too sure what you mean by '3'? I use my DesireZ as satnav all the time (just love Sygic's Aura!!!) And I use Brodit's active carholder (charger only version) and it does the job brilliantly.
I saw a thread about it a few weeks back so just do a search
My only REAL disappointment with android OS is complete lack of Bluetooth activated dialling and lack of contacts voicetags making it literary illegal to use this OS while driving.
Ps. Before all of you jump at me for slagging the android , I know I can answer calls with bt button press, but initiating a call without touching the fone is impossible (Google voice is rubbish, even for American native speakers, let alone other nationalities)
Rant over
sent from htc desire Z

lombardo8 said:
Thanx guys for all the constructive replies. I was just letting off some steam. Its hard to adapt to change sometimes. Like I said I have been using WM for over 4 years and it can get difficult if something has worked in a certain way all this while and all of a sudden it changes. I am going to try some of ur suggestions and i,ll report back on how I get on.
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The only painful thing about change is resistance to it.
Jump in and really see the what a great phone you have, Ive had WM and to be honest I will never go back.

Just my personal opinion of course ,but I came to Android from WinMo and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. The only good thing that WinMo had going for it was great Office integration. Android blows it out of the water in all other respects.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z

steviewevie said:
Just my personal opinion of course ,but I came to Android from WinMo and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. The only good thing that WinMo had going for it was great Office integration. Android blows it out of the water in all other respects.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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i totally agree with you. that sucks for any phone that isnt htc

joemm said:
The only painful thing about change is resistance to it.
Jump in and really see the what a great phone you have, Ive had WM and to be honest I will never go back.
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steviewevie said:
Just my personal opinion of course ,but I came to Android from WinMo and I wouldn't go back if you paid me. The only good thing that WinMo had going for it was great Office integration. Android blows it out of the water in all other respects.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
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+1
WM made its job but it's definitely the past, Android is the future
I almost have some kind of disgust when I think of the "finger-friendly" design of WM, the lags and the RAM issues
I love the Google (Gmail, calendar, tasks, contacts) synchronization so much! I couldn't live without anymore!

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Ha, having also come from the WinMo world (G2 is my first Android), I actually felt the complete opposite of you---WM is much less friendly/functional out of the box than Android (especially if on a stock WM ROM).
If not for manufacturers like HTC developing UI's like TouchFlo/Manilla, you pretty much had to use a stylus for many operations (or the hardware buttons, which I do miss some days). There was no marketplace until recently, so installing apps required a bit of research/work and relied heavily on forums such as XDA. In fact, in my experience, I always had to tweak the phone considerably to get it working decently (there were always countless registry tweaks to make if they weren't cooked into the ROM already, files to edit to increase the volume if your phone needed it, programs to install and tweak in order to get push email working, all of the pains of ActiveSync, especially if you weren't running an Exchange Server, etc.). That being said, WM had been around for a long time and a lot of the software and tweaks out there were already fairly mature, so it wasn't bad (for example, I always had problems playing videos on WM without the use of a third-party solution like CorePlayer, which until it matured, had it's fair share of stuttering and sync issues as well).
While there are definitely some growing pains involved, I'm a convert now. Plus, if you still want to have some control/tweakability, it allows you to still do that without much effort (as opposed to say Win7 or IOS).

8) Cant BT contacts from my phone to my car's phonebook (heard you need to download an app called Bluetooth File Transfer)
9) Random loss of installed apps and downloaded videos (nothing a good ol' WM style restart wont solve)

wolek76 said:
Hello everyone
My only REAL disappointment with android OS is complete lack of Bluetooth activated dialling and lack of contacts voicetags making it literary illegal to use this OS while driving.
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I'm using a paid app, Choice Dialer Plus, from the market. It lets you voice dial the phone, control the stock music app, set facebook status, etc.

burtcom said:
I'm using a paid app, Choice Dialer Plus, from the market. It lets you voice dial the phone, control the stock music app, set facebook status, etc.
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Yes, apparently it works (I did read some comments) but it still requires touching the screen to activate it, doesn't it?
Also, uses voice recognition which will only work for English names, right?
Now how would one pronounce my login here.... 'wolek' so that the machine would recognize it??? Not to mention some other non-English names within my phonebook
Sorry for being picky
Regards
sent from htc desire Z

wolek76 said:
Hello everyone
My only REAL disappointment with android OS is complete lack of Bluetooth activated dialling and lack of contacts voicetags making it literary illegal to use this OS while driving.
Ps. Before all of you jump at me for slagging the android , I know I can answer calls with bt button press, but initiating a call without touching the fone is impossible (Google voice is rubbish, even for American native speakers, let alone other nationalities)
Rant over
sent from htc desire Z
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I make voice dialed calls all the time without touching the phone. I'm using a Motorola H17...not sure if that makes a difference.

2 thoughts here:
Yes, the usb location sucks. it's the worst possible spot, it's in the way no matter how you hold the phone. It really should have been on the bottom.
I didn't know windows mobile phones from 4 years ago could play HD movies?
My G2 has no problem chewing through an unconverted 720p divx using rockplayer in software mode. Now I don't have to spend 3 hours converting a 2 hour movie.

I'd agree about the USB port location. The one major plus that the iPhone has is that it uses a standardised docking socket, so there are hundreds of docks, cradles, adaptors, interfaces, etc around for it. Try and find even one for Android phones.
It would have been such a good idea to come up with a standard spec hardware port for all Android devices (not limited to just that, but so that every phone has the same basic interface, power connector and audio options). Then we could have lots of lovely accessories.
Handsfree Bluetooth dialling works just fine in my car by the way, but it is the car stereo that does the voice recognition bit.
Oh, and I did like the Notes program in stock WinMo - the ability to seamlessly draw or write (with optional pen-to-text recognition) with the stylus, or type if you prefer, was great.
Andre

[JAX SLX7786] Android 4.4 Head Unit - RK3188, 1GB RAM, 1024x600

This thread is dedicated to discussion, research and mods for the JAX SLX7786 Head Unit range.
What is it?
The JAX SLX7786 is a series of touchscreen Android 4.4 head unit. The most common size reported is 10.1", although 9" models have been seen in the wild.
The common characteristics of these head units are:
Specifications
OS Android 4.4.4
CPU RK3188 series (PX3)
Cores 4 cores
MHz 1.6GHz
RAM series DDR3
RAM capacity 1G
ROM series iNand Flash
ROM capacity 16G
Double SD card/MuIti-Media Maximum capacity: 64G
Screen Size Different Car DVD model different size (Edit: this particular one is 10.2")
Screen Resolution 1024*600
Screen Panel CTP (Capacity Touch Panel)
GPS module GPS/Beidou
WIFI Built-in(IEEE 802.1 lb/g/n)
3G Unicom/Telecom/Moblie(Adapter)
USB(Port) 3 pieces USB2.0(Extensible)
SD card slot 2 pieces
Moblie HD Support FAT/NTFS
Who makes them?
Good question. As far as I can gather it's a similar arrangement to the MTCB units; a number of manufacturers sell the unit based off of a central reference design. Who makes the reference design, and therefore who holds the kernel source, I do not know.
How can I get one?
The main place I have seen these for sale has been Aliexpress; most of the 10.1" units on the market seem to be this particular unit/ROM. The only other 10.1" units on the market (as far as I'm aware) are Joying units and pretty clearly marked as such.
The only surefire way to make sure it is a SLX7786 unit is to get the seller to send you a photo or screenshot of the build number under the System -> About page and check whether it matches the build mentioned below.
I think I already have one. How can I tell?
The easiest way to tell is looking at the System -> About page on the unit. If your build number contains the following then you have a SLX7786 unit:
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JAX or 885 as first three characters, and
Contains WQ-16EN
The full details of the build number are as follows:
[VENDOR]-[YY][MM][DD][HH][MM][0G]-WQ-16EN-[CARMAKE]
Where:
[VENDOR] = JAX or 885. Unsure why this changes from unit to unit, assuming different vendors.
[YY] = Build year, [MM] = build month and so on.
[0G] = String may or may not appear depending on model
[WQ] = Assuming this is OEM, like KLD and JY is for MTCB units
[16] = Not sure
[EN] = English ROM
[CARMAKE] = M6 for Mazda 6, ACCORD8 for Honda Accord, etc
How can I help XDA development?
Ask the seller for the most recent update, citing the bugs listed below. Share link with me via PM, or upload to Google Drive and PM me the link.
Do a full backup with Partitions Backup (excluding /user and /userdata), upload to Google Drive and PM me the link.
Take pictures of hardware internals
Help us solve who designed these units!
Help us port TWRP recovery to these units!
Help us port CM to these units!
Help us build a custom kernel from the Rockchip source!

Bugs, quirks, guides and FAQs
Bugs and quirks
Can't switch screen off.
Can't map steering wheel Vol+ and Vol- at the same time Need to select "Mode 2" under wheel controls.
Can't run >3 apps simultaneously Switch to a 3rd party launcher such as Car Launcher Pro to fix this.
Auto-brightness doesn't work Doesn't appear to be an auto-brightness sensor installed.
Can't use other audio sources and apps simultaneously.
Can't change default music app
[*]Can't access ADB or Fastboot, despite ADB daemon running!
Guides
How to flash update.img files with SD cards
FAQs
What's the password for the JAX system page? 1234.
How do I install SuperSU? Install kylemd's custom ROM.
How do I get Xposed? Take your pants off Install kylemd's custom ROM.
How do I get Viper4Android? Install kylemd's custom ROM.
Tools and utilities
Rockchip Drivers (by SergioPoverony)
RK3xxx Firmware Tools version 5.99.07 (by SergioPoverony)
Rockchip SD Card Firmware Writer 1.43

What ROMs are available for it?
Stock ROMs
Please note that these are for development purposes only. Please don't attempt to flash these as you may kill your unit. Proceed at your own risk.
JAX1604121505G-WQ-16EN (thanks to @54metra)
JAX1604111430G-WQ-16EN-ACCORD8 (thanks to @rizu3544)
885-1605071020-WQ-16EN-M6 (thanks to me)
885-1611101628-WQ-16C (thanks to me)
Custom ROMs
Please note that these are for development purposes only. Please don't attempt to flash these as you may kill your unit. Proceed at your own risk.
Modded stock ROM by me (ROM details)

Software and apps
IntentKeys - makes track skip, pause and voice keys work.

kylemd said:
Reserved, last one.
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Dear kylemd,
Is it possible to change the existing default music player with new music player and default Home screen with new Home screen ?
Because, Music Player looks very old and the home screen looks laggy.

rizu3544 said:
Dear kylemd,
Is it possible to change the existing default music player with new music player and default Home screen with new Home screen ?
Because, Music Player looks very old and the home screen looks laggy.
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Music player: Yes, although you can't use steering wheel controls to skip tracks. I'm using Poweramp.
Home screen: yes, just install another launcher and it will ask you if you want to change launchers the first time you press home. Select the one you downloaded and click "always". Personally I'm using Car Launcher Pro and it works fantastic (and has on screen music controls) although it's a paid app. See the picture of my setup for a preview.

Hey i would like to add some technical issues i have with this rom.
1.)I like to confirm that you can not use the back and forward track buttons on other apps than the stock app provided.
2.) Under the car settings jax menu, entering the password 1234 grants you access to additional features. My gain controls in these menu do nothing. Bluetooth source isn't any louder, aux etc when adjusted.
3.)Was not able to change the default music app with a skin version or anything. (tried to remove via root, the installed a musicskin.apk in the system folder.
4.) Steering wheel controls is buggy, had to fiddle with it on different days until all the buttons are map, then no problem
5.)Viper4Android does not work with the stock apps (radio,bt, music, video). Works on some apps when i first installed it, reinstall doesn't work on some. Buggy
1.) Was able to root with KingRoot.

nguyentoogood said:
Hey i would like to add some technical issues i have with this rom.
1.)I like to confirm that you can not use the back and forward track buttons on other apps than the stock app provided.
2.) Under the car settings jax menu, entering the password 1234 grants you access to additional features. My gain controls in these menu do nothing. Bluetooth source isn't any louder, aux etc when adjusted.
3.)Was not able to change the default music app with a skin version or anything. (tried to remove via root, the installed a musicskin.apk in the system folder.
4.) Steering wheel controls is buggy, had to fiddle with it on different days until all the buttons are map, then no problem
5.)Viper4Android does not work with the stock apps (radio,bt, music, video). Works on some apps when i first installed it, reinstall doesn't work on some. Buggy
1.) Was able to root with KingRoot.
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Hi bro,
I have solution for Audio output issue...
Today I found the solution, so no need to root anything.
While Mapping the steering controls., don't map -Vol.
Now my Audio output is same as my Original Car stereo.
Reason : I will post a video for this issue, because I cannot explain here...
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kylemd said:
Music player: Yes, although you can't use steering wheel controls to skip tracks. I'm using Poweramp.
Home screen: yes, just install another launcher and it will ask you if you want to change launchers the first time you press home. Select the one you downloaded and click "always". Personally I'm using Car Launcher Pro and it works fantastic (and has on screen music controls) although it's a paid app. See the picture of my setup for a preview.
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Hi,
This Launcher looks cool, I will try it today. If you know more launchers then let me know.
Also if you know any app which shows both Audio & Video playlist in same app.

nguyentoogood said:
2.) Under the car settings jax menu, entering the password 1234 grants you access to additional features. My gain controls in these menu do nothing. Bluetooth source isn't any louder, aux etc when adjusted.
3.)Was not able to change the default music app with a skin version or anything. (tried to remove via root, the installed a musicskin.apk in the system folder.
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Forgot about those ones, thanks. Added them to the first post.
nguyentoogood said:
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Your build seems a lot newer than the ones I have. Would you be able to back them up using Partitions Backup and send them to me? Google Drive links are probably the best.
EDIT - Don't worry about /user and /userdata partitions as this is your own data and not part of the ROM. Sorry, should have mentioned this before :cyclops:

rizu3544 said:
Hi bro,
I have solution for Audio output issue...
Today I found the solution, so no need to root anything.
While Mapping the steering controls., don't map -Vol.
Now my Audio output is same as my Original Car stereo.
Reason : I will post a video for this issue, because I cannot explain here...
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Hi,
This Launcher looks cool, I will try it today. If you know more launchers then let me know.
Also if you know any app which shows both Audio & Video playlist in same app.
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kylemd said:
Music player: Yes, although you can't use steering wheel controls to skip tracks. I'm using Poweramp.
Home screen: yes, just install another launcher and it will ask you if you want to change launchers the first time you press home. Select the one you downloaded and click "always". Personally I'm using Car Launcher Pro and it works fantastic (and has on screen music controls) although it's a paid app. See the picture of my setup for a preview.
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Do you have similar Home screen as mine ?
In you Car Launcher Pro (home screen), there is Speedometer.. Does it shows correct readings ?

rizu3544 said:
Do you have similar Home screen as mine ?
In you Car Launcher Pro (home screen), there is Speedometer.. Does it shows correct readings ?
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I did, until I installed Car Launcher Pro. Speed is through GPS so it's pretty spot on.

kylemd said:
I did, until I installed Car Launcher Pro. Speed is through GPS so it's pretty spot on.
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Thanks, thats pretty cool..!! :good:

Just a small update...
I've managed to extract my stock ROM from my unit using the Partition Backup tool by Wanam listed in the OP. I plan on uploading the dump, as well as the two other firmwares collected to date, to AndroidFileHost as soon as I get developer status approved there.
Also I have added some tools to extract the firmware to post #2. The Rockchip drivers are fairly useless at the moment as we don't know how to connect to ADB, Fastboot or U-Boot (the bootloader), but the RK3xxx tools are what I'm using to work these ROMs. Again, as you need to be a member at 4PDA to download these (which is a pain to obtain) I will upload them to AndroidFileHost at the same time.
At some point this weekend I'll be doing a 3-way diff on the firmware we have so far to assess whether they are homogenous, i.e. can be flashed to any unit. I have a feeling they are, other than the apks in /system/app.
If it is indeed the case I'll release a modded ROM with SuperSU and (hopefully) Xposed and Viper4Android preinstalled to kick us off with custom ROMs. My endgame here is to have a source built kernel and have the device booting CM13, but as I know 9/10 of sweet f*** all about programming in Java or building from source I'm hoping somebody with dev knowledge will be able to assist.
If not, I'd be willing to kick off a bounty to get a unit for a dev who knows what they are doing so we can get some up-to-date firmware on here.
Also I've noticed that @AbduL_PT may be able to port TWRP to the device; he has already ported it to a number of other RK3188 devices so he may be able to do this one. @AbduL_PT if you're still around give us a yell
Let me know what you guys think.

For those of you that are considering purchasing one of these units, they are now AU$363 (15%) off on Aliexpress from this particular seller for 11/11 day. If you're in Australia you can also use CashRewards for another 11.11% off.
Just bought another one for my partners' Mazda 6. Yes, our family has two Mazda 6s :laugh: mine is the Mazdaspeed6/Mazda 6 MPS though.

kylemd said:
Just a small update...
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Kyle you are the man! Keep up the good work! :good::good::good::good::good:
I gotta read into backup the rom but then i can do it no problem.
I would like to note that i bought my unit a few weeks ago.
Also, i can listen to music while the gps app is open. Sygic, and iGo maps is what i used.

For those of you playing at home, I didn't realise that Xposed pre-Lollipop didn't require a flashable zip to install, as I only got into it with Marshmallow. Xposed installs fine on the unit with the installer from rovo's page.
I did play around with GravityBox [KK] shortly today, doesn't look like I can make the soft keys appear as I'd like though :crying: (as mine is installed in a RHD car the buttons are on the wrong side). Quite a lot of things actually do work though so it is running OK.
nguyentoogood said:
Kyle you are the man! Keep up the good work! :good::good::good::good::good:
I gotta read into backup the rom but then i can do it no problem.
I would like to note that i bought my unit a few weeks ago.
Also, i can listen to music while the gps app is open. Sygic, and iGo maps is what i used.
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Thanks mate
I also bought my unit not that long ago - 23/10/2016 actually. Given my car is a little bit older maybe mine is old stock as they're not moving them as quick.

Updated third OP post with information on system.img.
The findings on this mean I can cook a custom ROM and anybody can flash it, provided they back up their /system/app folder before installing and restore it afterwards.

Hi,
Small update..!!
I tried to access seller's files.
But I'm not sure the file which are uploaded in the month November belongs to JAX SLX7786 or not.
Please check from your side.
LINK : http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=575249288#category/type=0
Now I'm downloading "4.4 885 B版 20161110.rar" firmware from the above highlighted link, I will update you guys about this firmware after installation.
UPDATE : The above firmware "4.4 885 B版 20161110.rar" has same GUI as I posted the below image, but this firmware is just a crap for my Honda Accord. Because I can see only Home Screen, nothing is responsive, it looks like Hang. I have tried to restart the Unit, but still nothing is working
This Firmware has different launcher, it includes Music player within the Home Screen. Also the music player is different.
Link : http://pan.baidu.com/s/1eRLbboQ ← This firmware works perfectly.
Please look closely at the Home Screen

rizu3544 said:
Hi,
Small update..!!
I tried to access seller's files.
But I'm not sure the file which are uploaded in the month November belongs to JAX SLX7786 or not.
Please check from your side.
LINK : http://pan.baidu.com/share/home?uk=575249288#category/type=0
Now I'm downloading "4.4 885 B版 20161110.rar" firmware from the above highlighted link, I will update you guys about this firmware after installation.
This Firmware has different launcher, it includes Music player within the Home Screen. Also the music player is different.
Link : http://pan.baidu.com/s/1eRLbboQ
Please look closely at the Home Screen
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You are a legend thanks!
I can see at least three packages there that are for the SLX7786 - 安卓4.4老马六专用软件.rar (which is for the Mazda "Horse" 6, my car), and all the ones for the Accords, which are for yours. The others I'm not sure of, I'll have to crack them open and have a look.
In case anybody else is planning on downloading these, you can download from Baidu without having an account by using this Tampermonkey/Greasemonkey script. I haven't been able to get our device added to AndroidFileHost yet, so I'll be uploading the files as soon as I do.
EDIT - After some poking around I think I've stumbled across a repository for these units. Most of the units are designatured 7706, not 7786. Even more interestingly, there seems to be some files marked with a "STM8" designation, as well as a project file. Looking it up, the STM8 is a microcontroller that can be programmed for MCU use. We might have MCU source here, but I'm not sure. Somebody better versed in microcontrollers would be able to tell.
I also found a file with an update for the ix35 which might help the Russians I linked in the previous thread.

kylemd said:
You are a legend thanks!
I can see at least three packages there that are for the SLX7786 - 安卓4.4老马六专用软件.rar (which is for the Mazda "Horse" 6, my car), and all the ones for the Accords, which are for yours. The others I'm not sure of, I'll have to crack them open and have a look.
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Hi Kylemd,
Any update for the firmware which you have downloaded ?
Does it works with you ?

HELP!! Change car icons on PX6 10.4 Tesla Unit

I recently purchased one of these head units from China. I like it. It is snappy and works well. After purchasing item, the seller contacted me and said that I needed to pay another 20USD for reprogramming, because of the kind of A/C in my Ram 1500. OK.. I found it odd, but accepted it.
When the unit arrived and I installed it, I was slightly disappointed.
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I was hoping that the software would be tailored to the vehicle. Instead I'm getting these generic images showing when the car door is open and the image of what looks like an Aston Martin. I asked the seller if these can be changed and he said No.
I happen to know that the answer is false as if I would have bought the unit from Phoenix or Linkswell, I would have this..
Clearly that is a Ram.. and the other icons in the youtube video were also correct.
Anyone here knows how to change the vehicle icons?
Also, the reversing camera seems to be of a very low resolution compared to the crystal clear image I used to get with my factory 8" display. Would appreciate help in that area.
I'm not completely upset. These aren't deal breakers in me using the unit. I just wished for a little bit more attention to detail.

Is there anyone that can help me with getting my head unit to appear more factory?
1. I would like to change the vehicle icons to show the Ram or at least a truck.
2. I would like to get the camera to be more clearer.
3. Maybe change the theme a little.

Well...
The car pictures are included in the firmware and you can´t change that yourself without rooting the device, searching for the system apps which includes the different car pictures, creating your own pictures in the same shape, size and so on and put them back into the apps. You need to have a good knowledge of PSP to position and move the own pictures to the same view as the given one.
You probably need a couple of days to get that working and not look crappy.
Example: You need to create pictures for each door opening, you need to have pictures for all of them of the car from the exact same angle and this is needed for all pictures you want to exchange. Nearly not possible.
The cam picture is related to your camera. Seems that it is not of a good quality with low resolution.
Theme changes... forget it. No chance.

rigattoni said:
Well...
The car pictures are included in the firmware and you can´t change that yourself without rooting the device, searching for the system apps which includes the different car pictures, creating your own pictures in the same shape, size and so on and put them back into the apps. You need to have a good knowledge of PSP to position and move the own pictures to the same view as the given one.
You probably need a couple of days to get that working and not look crappy.
Example: You need to create pictures for each door opening, you need to have pictures for all of them of the car from the exact same angle and this is needed for all pictures you want to exchange. Nearly not possible.
The cam picture is related to your camera. Seems that it is not of a good quality with low resolution.
Theme changes... forget it. No chance.
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Thank you for the reply. It sounds like a mission to root the device and change the icons, but I guess vendors like Phoenix and Linkswell have multiple employees that can do that easily.
As for the cam picture, on my stock 8" factory Uconnect, it was really clear. Only after switching to the android unit, is the picture quite a low resolution. It is still usable though.

These vendors don´t do anything.
The software development is outsourced to another company and they just work on requirements. To adapt a software to your specific car... costs a lot of money, because the graphics need to be taken and worked on... Even don´t think about the possibility to get this changed by the vendor.
If you want to get it... you need to do it yourself. I started a while ago with it and gave up after some days because I did not get the relevant pictures in the right angle.
Ah one thing additional: You are not able to update your unit afterwards, otherwise all your changes are lost.
Example: Only for the door thingi, you need to create these new files:

@knightjp You will find these and all the others in the launcher.apk.
The files I showed are in \res\drawable-w720dp-hdpi-v13, but you need to look first if one change in there changes anything on your radio. Not a fast thing... and you need to use the radio on bench instead in car, because you need a long time.

@rigattoni Thank you for the information. How do you access launcher.apk?

knightjp said:
@rigattoni Thank you for the information. How do you access launcher.apk?
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Just use 7zip and unzip the apk on the desktop to work on it.
Attention: You need to exchange the files in the zip file itself (APK is just the same as a zip file).

rigattoni said:
Just use 7zip and unzip the apk on the desktop to work on it.
Attention: You need to exchange the files in the zip file itself (APK is just the same as a zip file).
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Thank you for the info. I mean where would I find the launcher.apk so that I can make a copy of it to a USB and then work on it. I'm browsing through the file manager on my unit and I can't seem to find it.
Sorry.. I'm new all of this..
This are the details of my unit. I did manage to find a group on Facebook where one guy said that he could help. But then he said that my unit is a 1600x1200 resolution display and he doesn't have the custom firmware ready for these units yet.
Tesla Style. Firmware and HeadUnits | Facebook
Custom firmware for PX3/PX6 Tesla style headunits for ANY vehicle types. Supported Android versions: 7.1, 8.1, 9 Donation link: https://boosty.to/teslafw.
www.facebook.com
Maybe he can help you.

rigattoni said:
You need to use a file manager as FX with root right add-on. With the internal file manager you won't find anything... And the unit needs to be rooted.
I don't need anything I just sold the unit.
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Ok.. How do I root the device?
Sorry.. I’m just new to all of this.

knightjp said:
Ok.. How do I root the device?
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upload your firmware. maybe it is possible to root.

localos said:
upload your firmware. maybe it is possible to root.
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How do I do that? I do have to apologize. I'm totally a newbie at this.

Do you think that this will work for my unit?
Gen 4 2014-2018 Ram Radio Updates (DGPU10-4RR-4A) - LinksWell, Inc.
Download Links for Update files: Dropbox Link
www.linkswellinc.com

Well... I am not in the position to verify that this is the right firmware for your particular unit.
You need to ask there, not here.
No one on this forum would be able to answer that.

rigattoni said:
Well... I am not in the position to verify that this is the right firmware for your particular unit.
You need to ask there, not here.
No one on this forum would be able to answer that.
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I've checked with Linkswell. They said that the firmware only matches the radios they sell. Not sure I believe them since their radios are made in the same factory that mine was. They just put their own firmware on it.
Its fine. This group on Facebook have custom firmware that look really good and pretty much factory.
Tesla Style. Firmware and HeadUnits | Facebook
Custom firmware for PX3/PX6 Tesla style headunits for ANY vehicle types. Supported Android versions: 7.1, 8.1, 9 Donation link: https://boosty.to/teslafw.
www.facebook.com
I'm happy to wait until they've got something out.

@knightjp
These units are too different as it would be possible to flash something from another supplier.
If you would have a MTC* unit it would be easy to exchange between different suppliers, but not for these units.
I even would not rely on any facebook groups... Too much idiots running around there. If you want to change something which is not done by the supplier, just do it yourself. You just need to make sure that you are able to reset the stuff if somethings going wrong.
Even to flash any firmware provided by someone else should only be done if the original firmware is available for getting the radio back working. Don´t use any firmware without having the original firmware.

@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.

knightjp said:
@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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See you back here asking how to recover your bricked unit

knightjp said:
@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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I go fully with Marchnz.
At least if you not really know what you are doing and make an own question mark behind each instruction, you should not change anything yourself. Keep it as is and be lucky with the performance. Those small things like a different car on the screen... well... You loose more if you brick the unit.
The problem is, that this firmware needs to be made for your paricular head unit involving the MCU and built in hardware and not just for a specific car. Wrong firmware can brick the unit and if you are not able to help yourself out of this dilemma... you would be lost, because none of the current user would be able to explain the unit specific way to get out of this issue.
So I would say: If you don´t know out of memory to root this device and don´t have the original MCU and firmware... kepp your fingers away from the internals.... just some famous 2 cent.

install apps on GAC Trumpchi GS8 2022 factory OEM head unit.

Hi!
I have a GAC (Trumpchi) GS8 2022. It does not support android auto or installing any apks. there is no file explorer on board. Also, I cannot access the factory settings as require a password. all I was able to get this snapshot when the settings page briefly appeared upon cancelling the password entry prompt . Can anyone let me know how I can get into the system settings or atleast enable developer options and USB debugging. It has easyconnect and I'm currently using my mobile to run apps on the mirrored screen. But I'm guessing the head unit in android based, so I can install some apps or atleast HeadUnit Reloaded for "native" android auto via self mode. Appreciate any tips. If you know what password works to get me into factory settings, please let me know.
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Hey there, did you get a response to your query. I just received my 2023 GS8 and realised Apply Car Play is not supported - only Easy Connect.
How did you get into the config menu to see the password prompt?

michbrown said:
Hey there, did you get a response to your query. I just received my 2023 GS8 and realised Apply Car Play is not supported - only Easy Connect.
How did you get into the config menu to see the password prompt?
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Sorry to say:
You won´t get anywhere with these units.
This may be Android as OS, but it´s closed software and you won´t be able to install anything. The implementation of Android is exactly stripped to the OEM needs.
I also would not recommend to try to hack these units, as you would get rid of the warranty and to brick the unit is not that difficult by using any other firmware.
Firmware is installed by the seller. so I would ask him why this is not possible.

rigattoni said:
Sorry to say:
You won´t get anywhere with these units.
This may be Android as OS, but it´s closed software and you won´t be able to install anything. The implementation of Android is exactly stripped to the OEM needs.
I also would not recommend to try to hack these units, as you would get rid of the warranty and to brick the unit is not that difficult by using any other firmware.
Firmware is installed by the seller. so I would ask him why this is not possible.
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Okay. Shame and thanks for the quick response.

Is there any apk file for a Picasou android box in order to detect from the android system which doesnt come up with built in apple carplay option.

michbrown said:
Hey there, did you get a response to your query. I just received my 2023 GS8 and realised Apply Car Play is not supported - only Easy Connect.
How did you get into the config menu to see the password prompt?
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I was driving a GS7 earlier and the wireless android auto feature was absolutely working fine thru a device called Picasou Android box when i plugged it to the usb slot. This was possible as the GS7 had inbuilt apple carplay in it.
But now i have upgraded my car to the new GS8 2023 and for a shock i couldnt find the apple car play option in it and only carbitlink/screen mirroring is supported. I was so dissapointed. After a lot of research i found out a solution where if we can install the autokit app in the car console, you can use a device like carlinkit and your wireless android auto and apple carplay will work fine like before. I am posting a insta video posted by a carlinkit dealer where he demostrates the wireless carplay and android auto options on GS8 2023 model vehicle. Hope i have been helpful to you.

Thanks for posting this. The video looks good. The key question is how to install the carlinkit apk? I’ve managed to find the config menu but do not know the PIN. Have you figured it out?
ReNish83 said:
I was driving a GS7 earlier and the wireless android auto feature was absolutely working fine thru a device called Picasou Android box when i plugged it to the usb slot. This was possible as the GS7 had inbuilt apple carplay in it.
But now i have upgraded my car to the new GS8 2023 and for a shock i couldnt find the apple car play option in it and only carbitlink/screen mirroring is supported. I was so dissapointed. After a lot of research i found out a solution where if we can install the autokit app in the car console, you can use a device like carlinkit and your wireless android auto and apple carplay will work fine like before. I am posting a insta video posted by a carlinkit dealer where he demostrates the wireless carplay and android auto options on GS8 2023 model vehicle. Hope i have been helpful to you.
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michbrown said:
Thanks for posting this. The video looks good. The key question is how to install the carlinkit apk? I’ve managed to find the config menu but do not know the PIN. Have you figured it out?
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Yes.You get into the search mode of the navigation and follow the below steps
1.Press and hold the , for 3 seconds and select language.
2.once the language screen comes up, select the search button on the top right hand corner of the screen.
3.This is where u can plug in a USB with a .apk file and install the app.

ReNish83 said:
Yes.You get into the search mode of the navigation and follow the below steps
1.Press and hold the , for 3 seconds and select language.
2.once the language screen comes up, select the search button on the top right hand corner of the screen.
3.This is where u can plug in a USB with a .apk file and install the app.
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Hi ,
I followed the step but unable to connect the carlinkit. Also autokit app is not shown in the app drawer. every time I have to install the app to open it.
Did it work for you ?

njs_uition said:
Hi ,
I followed the step but unable to connect the carlinkit. Also autokit app is not shown in the app drawer. every time I have to install the app to open it.
Did it work for you ?
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hey there,
Firstly thanks for helping me also move closer to getting this working. I followed your instructions and installed the APK - and just like you it seems I have to keep installing to open it once I exit. I purchase the Carlinkit AI Tbox and although the configuration shows it's happy, the box is not detected. I would also like to know where in the Android menu structure I can have the app on my main GAC apps and also how to launch Carlinkit! Any help is really appreciated.

Hello everyone, I have a question about the language pack for this head unit. I only see Chinese. how to make it into english?
Is there any firmware or can it be done in the menu?

michbrown said:
hey there,
Firstly thanks for helping me also move closer to getting this working. I followed your instructions and installed the APK - and just like you it seems I have to keep installing to open it once I exit. I purchase the Carlinkit AI Tbox and although the configuration shows it's happy, the box is not detected. I would also like to know where in the Android menu structure I can have the app on my main GAC apps and also how to launch Carlinkit! Any help is really appreciated.
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Towards the end of the video, the user swipes from the left side of the screen to access a slide in dock with apps. Try that and let us know. Maybe @ReNish83 can help. He seems to have it set up.

ReNish83 said:
I was driving a GS7 earlier and the wireless android auto feature was absolutely working fine thru a device called Picasou Android box when i plugged it to the usb slot. This was possible as the GS7 had inbuilt apple carplay in it.
But now i have upgraded my car to the new GS8 2023 and for a shock i couldnt find the apple car play option in it and only carbitlink/screen mirroring is supported. I was so dissapointed. After a lot of research i found out a solution where if we can install the autokit app in the car console, you can use a device like carlinkit and your wireless android auto and apple carplay will work fine like before. I am posting a insta video posted by a carlinkit dealer where he demostrates the wireless carplay and android auto options on GS8 2023 model vehicle. Hope i have been helpful to you.
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Hello friend I installed Nova 7 Launcher to install autokit.APK, and after I bought Carlinkit device, it works properly, I have iPhone and CarPlay wireless work some times and other not
This is my first problem, and second problem is Nova is default launcher, how can you enter to autokit if your launcher is default launcher? Not exist how add autokit button to include it in Home Screen , so if your phone connects and you push home, how can you back to CarPlay or android car? Also t launcher request me install Google play services
If you can help me please, GAC GS8 2nd gen
Regards

Need help identifying Android 12 HU

So I got this thing from Amazon there's like 300 bucks on sale so it's worth a little bit more than that which from my experience with previous PX3 px5 systems usually if you spend a little bit more you get a better quality product. But this one doesn't seem to be an mtcb or an MTC I can't really figure out which head unit it is. It says it came with Android 12 and a octa core processor. Also says it has 6 GB of RAM and 128 GB of storage. It looks very similar to my old dasaita hu. It says the processor is a b200 and I've never even heard of that although it said it came within AC8*** processor here's a screenshot of the setting screen if you guys could help me identify so I can find a custom rom and get some information on what I can do with this thing that would be cool. Thank you.
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It's an STM32 type device.

Awesome. Thanks.

DJYoshaBYD said:
Awesome. Thanks.
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Search results for query: Stm32
forum.xda-developers.com

Yeah I'm very aware of what the search function is. I just wasn't sure which terms I should be using to search, hence me asking.

DJYoshaBYD said:
Yeah I'm very aware of what the search function is. I just wasn't sure which terms I should be using to search, hence me asking.
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Hence providing the search terms in addition to answering your question which was so graciously gratified. I could have remarked without remiss for a post in the wrong forum, including a software development forum for what might be considered a request for others to do leg work
You really don't want a custom rom and they do not exist. Even the MTCD hacks are just modded factory ROMS which largely fix problems.
Suggest relegating the STM32 to experience and replacing with an UIS7862 FYT based unit. Don't take it personally, the forum is littered with posts from those that buy first and then read the forums second to resolve issues or determine what would have been better. Could also be an opportunity to start a new thread in the correct (Android head-units) forum and start (limited) development for this odd ball.
Not (MTCD) requested moderator move to (Android head-units) forum

Yeah you make a really good point. I didn't think it was going to be that hard to find information on this thing. It'd be cool to have a modded ROM for this particular device as it's not necessarily slow. It just needs some love a little fine-tuning and probably a smack across the face. Haha. Yeah I may look into just selling it and getting another one. Thanks for your input I appreciate it

DJYoshaBYD said:
Yeah you make a really good point. I didn't think it was going to be that hard to find information on this thing. It'd be cool to have a modded ROM for this particular device as it's not necessarily slow. It just needs some love a little fine-tuning and probably a smack across the face. Haha. Yeah I may look into just selling it and getting another one. Thanks for your input I appreciate it
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It looks like I just fell into the same hole! Very similar firmware - STM32 - 20220607-11-BD3-57 but mine also says it's a B100 4 core 32gb/2gb and is running android 12 (supposedly - can't be sure based on others comments of the os/cpu, etc. being faked!) - Only just fitted a few days ago and it's working ok with the navigation software included / plexamp / reversing camera. I'm not too worried about customising the rom in this case but the issues I've had so far:
Google apps all run VERY slow - google maps virtually unuseable, play store is terribly slow to download anything.
Bluetooth to ODB2 adapter won't connect no matter how I try
Can't change the start logo as with other models
Under the Factory settings menu you can log on with code 8888 OR 6666 - using 6666 there is an extra menu item of 'Settings Item Hiding' - I'm guessing that maybe further options for setting up ODB2 might be hidden in there but I can't figure out what the code might be!!

GuitarWiz69 said:
It looks like I just fell into the same hole! Very similar firmware - STM32 - 20220607-11-BD3-57 but mine also says it's a B100 4 core 32gb/2gb and is running android 12 (supposedly - can't be sure based on others comments of the os/cpu, etc. being faked!) - Only just fitted a few days ago and it's working ok with the navigation software included / plexamp / reversing camera. I'm not too worried about customising the rom in this case but the issues I've had so far:
Google apps all run VERY slow - google maps virtually unuseable, play store is terribly slow to download anything.
Bluetooth to ODB2 adapter won't connect no matter how I try
Can't change the start logo as with other models
Under the Factory settings menu you can log on with code 8888 OR 6666 - using 6666 there is an extra menu item of 'Settings Item Hiding' - I'm guessing that maybe further options for setting up ODB2 might be hidden in there but I can't figure out what the code might be!!
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Yeah I've been using Aurora store instead of the Google Play store and I found it more than adequate. I stopped using the play store whenever I could. Plus because it's a stereo other people can get into your car or borrow it I don't like being signed into a Gmail account or any sort of personal data being left on there so what I did is kind of a hybrid method. I use Aurora store for all my Google Play needs I just don't sign into Google Play or Gmail or anything and then I use an account that I made just for my car to like get notifications or at the very least be able to sign into things with Google like Spotify and still be able to have like a playlist personalized and all that but not leave any of my personal account data at risk.
But yeah Google Play store Google maps all of its completely unreliable and unusual so I just went in and disabled Google Play store and I'm probably just going to disable Google Play services as well because it's ****ing useless. Unless one of the other frameworks like a minified open source version or implementation of GSF you know just me better success I'm not really sure what else to do. Switching to another browser will help for your browsing needs so instead of chrome I haven't checked to see if chromium is available for Android but I know Firefox works great so I may switch to that. I'm still in the process of setting mine up. I think when I get some down time later on tonight I'm going to actually try and pull apart the wrong and see what kind of fixes or tweaks I can apply to it. Who knows maybe I can at least get the ball rolling on some sort of development for it and then some of the old hands can come in here then show us how it's done. Maybe if somebody show some actual effort into making these particular units worth modifying as far as their software goes other people will start doing it cuz the processor itself shows promise and it's definitely not slow. I mean in any benchmark that I've seen the AC8257 is ranked in like the top three I guess a lot of the rockchips soc.
And yeah I just actually got into that menu earlier and it doesn't open up much it does give you some engineering tools to modify the camera and the radio a bit. I mean other than it being slow for Google services and not being able to change the default launcher very well or customize how it looks I mean it's doing its job it's just in some aspects it's lacking. I'm hoping I can change that so I don't have to go just flat out by another head unit.