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New Joying 5.1 UL124N2.....No GPS Voice, also need Tasker help

I just installed this unit and have not been able to get Google Maps to speak at all, I swear I have checked every setting possible. After each time I try a setting I go into Maps and hit "play test sound" in the navigation settings.....no voice output.
I had high hopes of using Tasker to read incoming SMS from Mighty Text.....read my Calendar appointments on startup.....and "Auto input" plug-in to automate lots of stuff........but so far unsuccessful on all of these...........These were my biggest reasons for getting an Android HU.....so needless to say I am not happy so far. I thought this would work very similar to my Android tablet.
Would rooting give me more abilities that I am looking for......I have no experience with rooting anything......I knew this unit would be a bit of a project....thinking that tasker would solve most things I didn't like about it .......but if I can't use Tasker then I'm not sure what to do.

FWIW I have the exact same problem with mine and am unable to find a solution.
I contacted Joying about it but all their tech support says to do is try another version of Google Maps.
From what i can tell, **any Google apps** using the native Google Speech to Text engine simply do not work. This includes Chrome, Google Maps, Google Now, everything.
Other apps such as Hound, work fine.
If anyone has a solution to this problem, or contacts at Joying who care enough about it, it would be appreciated..

brunes said:
FWIW I have the exact same problem with mine and am unable to find a solution.
I contacted Joying about it but all their tech support says to do is try another version of Google Maps.
From what i can tell, **any Google apps** using the native Google Speech to Text engine simply do not work. This includes Chrome, Google Maps, Google Now, everything.
Other apps such as Hound, work fine.
If anyone has a solution to this problem, or contacts at Joying who care enough about it, it would be appreciated..
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The problem.with chinise android is the low support for google apps due to China restrictions policies. They have baidu (baidu search, baidu maps, baidu mail...baidu everything)
Hotaudio guy told me that they have the mtcd units working only by voice for Bluetooth and commands (baidu based)
if I did help you, please hit "thanks" button

Well the goofy thing is Joying ships with Google Maps and the Play store out of the box... Yet the maps sound doesn't work.

All of them ships with Google maps and play store....but my point is that voice functionality is proven on baidu and not on Google....and they have not ways to try Google services to fix problems
if I did help you, please hit "thanks" button

You do not mention on witch ROM version you are. Please always do that.
See this thread for general info.
See this post for a Google TTS fix for the February ROM.
See this post for a Google TTS fix for the March ROM.
Edit: Updated. 3rd link mentioned also the February ROM.

surfer63 said:
You do not mention on witch ROM version you are. Please always do that.
See this thread for general info.
See this post for a Google TTS fix for the February ROM.
See this post for a Google TTS fix for the February ROM.
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The MCU Version is 2016-10-31 JY_(NOR)_90_C9_7706_5009_CAN(GX)_Newlap is this what you request??
I sent an email to Joying and they want me to update to a March 5th version......I am short on time this week so it might take a few days to continue working on this.
In the meantime I will be reading a lot of posts here.........I don't think I am nearly quite as high tech as most on here......but I can usually figure stuff out.

Also........should I back up the stock version that I have now?.........if so........is there a video that would show me how to do that?

budwha said:
Also........should I back up the stock version that I have now?.........if so........is there a video that would show me how to do that?
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Note that I made an error in my links. I corrected that above.
See the joying 59 blog for general ROM upgrades.
your October 2016 ROM is too old and contains bugs anyway.
First update to the February ROM or the March ROM.
Based on the ROM you are going to install you need to take the patched version of the February link or the March link.

ikerg said:
The problem.with chinise android is the low support for google apps due to China restrictions policies. They have baidu (baidu search, baidu maps, baidu mail...baidu everything)
Hotaudio guy told me that they have the mtcd units working only by voice for Bluetooth and commands (baidu based)
if I did help you, please hit "thanks" button
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And yet, at least in my experience, it only seems to be Android HU manufacturers who are struggling with Google voice integration while off-brand Chinese tablet manufacturers have it working out of the box. Of course off brand tablets are a lot closer to android reference designs then a bastardized integration of a Android tablet, a head unit, and custom automotive oriented firmware to tie it all together too.

JY-UL135N2 said:
And yet, at least in my experience, it only seems to be Android HU manufacturers who are struggling with Google voice integration while off-brand Chinese tablet manufacturers have it working out of the box. Of course off brand tablets are a lot closer to android reference designs then a bastardized integration of a Android tablet, a head unit, and custom automotive oriented firmware to tie it all together too.
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Yes, and that is also very logical.
In a head unit you need to "merge" sound from the physical radio with the sound coming from apps. That is the big difference. The fix though is very simple.
I wrote a patch for the sofia server apk that facilitates Google voice integration. That's what I mentioned in post 6.
Unfortunately Joying doesn't want to accept the fix. Obviously Google voice integration is not important for them as long as they have their chinese Baidu voice integration.

surfer63 said:
Yes, and that is also very logical.
In a head unit you need to "merge" sound from the physical radio with the sound coming from apps. That is the big difference. The fix though is very simple.
I wrote a patch for the sofia server apk that facilitates Google voice integration. That's what I mentioned in post 6.
Unfortunately Joying doesn't want to accept the fix. Obviously Google voice integration is not important for them as long as they have their chinese Baidu voice integration.
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Thanks Surfer63. ......I'm now running the March 14th update. ......can I still use your tts and app kill mod in post 6.....how do I install that?........does it install just like any other apk?

budwha said:
The MCU Version is 2016-10-31 JY_(NOR)_90_C9_7706_5009_CAN(GX)_Newlap is this what you request??
I sent an email to Joying and they want me to update to a March 5th version......I am short on time this week so it might take a few days to continue working on this.
In the meantime I will be reading a lot of posts here.........I don't think I am nearly quite as high tech as most on here......but I can usually figure stuff out.
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Update the ROM. Quite out of date.
Also try changing the default Maps app to Google Maps in the Car Media Settings app.

budwha said:
Thanks Surfer63. ......I'm now running the March 14th update. ......can I still use your tts and app kill mod in post 6.....how do I install that?........does it install just like any other apk?
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No, you should take the V4 from gustden from this post.
Read the first post please for your questions and also check the zip.

surfer63 said:
No, you should take the V4 from gustden from this post.
Read the first post please for your questions and also check the zip.
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Ok.........my steering wheel buttons work the way I like for now. .....I would like to know if this will change the way my steering wheel keys work now OR just give me the ability customize them.
Also.....I just saw that you modified the Navi list of apps that allow speaking during radio........which apps did you add?......I would love it if I could get Tasker to say stuff or Readittome to work and read out Mighty Text messages.....as of now .....I have not been able do any of that.

budwha said:
Ok.........my steering wheel buttons work the way I like for now. .....I would like to know if this will change the way my steering wheel keys work now OR just give me the ability customize them.
Also.....I just saw that you modified the Navi list of apps that allow speaking during radio........which apps did you add?......I would love it if I could get Tasker to say stuff or Readittome to work and read out Mighty Text messages.....as of now .....I have not been able do any of that.
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@surfer63 can we do a wildcard add to allow ANY/all apps to go over radio?

bogdi1988 said:
@surfer63 can we do a wildcard add to allow ANY/all apps to go over radio?
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No, we can't.
The sofiaServer apk reads the package names (and not the name of the apk as such) from that file. I could not follow the code further but I assume that it "sees" a running com.google.android.tts (GoogleTTS) in memory, trying to speak something and it knows that that one is allowed to break through the radio audio stream.
What I have been thinking of, but I completely lack the knowledge to reprogram it, is that the apk reads the navi_app.txt file from preferably /sdcard or possibly /data, and not internally. In that case everyone can add his/her own line for his/her own "speaking" app to the file. Reboot and test, and when it works you are happy.
Edit: I did check again and it might even be very simple to put the file on /sdcard. I will try tonight.

surfer63 said:
No, we can't.
The sofiaServer apk reads the package names (and not the name of the apk as such) from that file. I could not follow the code further but I assume that it "sees" a running com.google.android.tts (GoogleTTS) in memory, trying to speak something and it knows that that one is allowed to break through the radio audio stream.
What I have been thinking of, but I completely lack the knowledge to reprogram it, is that the apk reads the navi_app.txt file from preferably /sdcard or possibly /data, and not internally. In that case everyone can add his/her own line for his/her own "speaking" app to the file. Reboot and test, and when it works you are happy.
Edit: I did check again and it might even be very simple to put the file on /sdcard. I will try tonight.
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The apk does not have (READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE) in the manifest. If you try to add it to the manifest, you will have to resign with the original certificate to get it to install. It's a good idea, just may have to put it someplace not on the sdcard, /data should work.
https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE

gustden said:
The apk does not have (READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE) in the manifest. If you try to add it to the manifest, you will have to resign with the original certificate to get it to install. It's a good idea, just may have to put it someplace not on the sdcard, /data should work.
https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
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What about a file in the system partition? That way you can still add the apps as you wish, just a bit harder to get to

gustden said:
The apk does not have (READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE) in the manifest. If you try to add it to the manifest, you will have to resign with the original certificate to get it to install. It's a good idea, just may have to put it someplace not on the sdcard, /data should work.
https://developer.android.com/reference/android/Manifest.permission.html#READ_EXTERNAL_STORAGE
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Right. I did not think of that.
I will try tonight in a few hours (my time zone that is )
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bogdi1988 said:
What about a file in the system partition? That way you can still add the apps as you wish, just a bit harder to get to
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The /system partition is read-only. You would always have to remount the /system partition as read-write, write the file, and remount as read-only.
The /data partition is a read/write partition, be it that you need root rights (we have that) to write to /data. Apps can only write to their own data folder.

Online Radio app specifically designed for android head units

We have developed an online radio app specifically for android head units, becasue the fm radio of the china devices are mostly utter crap.
We extend the country and station list continuously, but if you want us to add a specific country and/or your favorite station, drop us an email.
You find the app here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.threedmagic.carradio
UPDATE:
We updated the app.
Beside many small bugfixes we added RDS/Playing Now display, which means, you will see the actually played song's artist and title and any data the station is sending with the stream.
Available only where the station actually provide the data!

Is it possible to chance the app so it can use the FM antenna from the car instead of online data

It is impossible to create an offline radio for Android without hacking the OS!
All apps on the Play Store that claim to be offline FM radios, are scam!

Netuddki said:
It is impossible to create an offline radio for Android without hacking the OS!
All apps on the Play Store that claim to be offline FM radios, are scam!
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This is not completly true.... look at this app from @KoTiX2:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...t/dev-navradio-ported-to-mtc-devices-t4048899

royalhawk2002 said:
This is not completly true.... look at this app from @KoTiX2:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...t/dev-navradio-ported-to-mtc-devices-t4048899
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Thank you.
We will look at it and test it.
We spent weeks for trying to figure out, how to create an FM radio app with the current Joying systems and current tuner chips and it wasn't possible.
At least not without a huge amount of reverse engineering and hacking and we decided that it is not worth to create an app that can be used only with a few devices and which can break with a single update of the OS or part of it.
Maybe we missed something.
If we can figure it out based on this app, we will think about making it offline as well.

Netuddki said:
Thank you.
We will look at it and test it.
We spent weeks for trying to figure out, how to create an FM radio app with the current Joying systems and current tuner chips and it wasn't possible.
At least not without a huge amount of reverse engineering and hacking and we decided that it is not worth to create an app that can be used only with a few devices and which can break with a single update of the OS or part of it.
Maybe we missed something.
If we can figure it out based on this app, we will think about making it offline as well.
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look also at this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...evelopment/app-custom-mtcd-radio-app-t4040505

royalhawk2002 said:
look also at this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...evelopment/app-custom-mtcd-radio-app-t4040505
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Ok Thanks!

royalhawk2002 said:
look also at this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...evelopment/app-custom-mtcd-radio-app-t4040505
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Yeah, I tried both of those apps now and none of them worked.
That NavRadio+ works with one specific firmware based on the developer's explanation, which seems to be a very old firmware used by a handful of unknown radio manufacturers and not used by the biggest producer of Android Head Units called Joying.
It doesn't even open on a Joying device.
The other one is simply a piece of crap that opens, but can't do anything.

Netuddki said:
Yeah, I tried both of those apps now and none of them worked.
That NavRadio+ works with one specific firmware based on the developer's explanation, which seems to be a very old firmware used by a handful of unknown radio manufacturers and not used by the biggest producer of Android Head Units called Joying.
It doesn't even open on a Joying device.
The other one is simply a piece of crap that opens, but can't do anything.
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Which Processor your unit has ?
This is for MTCD/MTCE : https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...evelopment/app-custom-mtcd-radio-app-t4040505
This is for MTCx (NavRadio+): https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...t/dev-navradio-ported-to-mtc-devices-t4048899
This is for Allwinner T3, T8 and IntelSC9853(TS9) head units (NavRadio+): https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...its/dev-navradio-app-allwinner-units-t4024701
It depends strongly from the Processor.... probably you don't have any of the previous units.

royalhawk2002 said:
Which Processor your unit has ?
This is for MTCD/MTCE : https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...evelopment/app-custom-mtcd-radio-app-t4040505
This is for MTCx (NavRadio+): https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...t/dev-navradio-ported-to-mtc-devices-t4048899
This is for Allwinner T3, T8 and IntelSC9853(TS9) head units (NavRadio+): https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...its/dev-navradio-app-allwinner-units-t4024701
It depends strongly from the Processor.... probably you don't have any of the previous units.
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I have a SC9853I Octa Core processor in my device, but the processor has nothing to do with anything.
The Radio Tuner chip is what it is about.
The newest radios have the chip TEF6686 and the older ones have the TDA7786.
There is no way to control the radio chip. Period.
I had a dozen Android Radios before this.
You don't even get my actual radio anymore, because the market develops so fast.
The old devices are sold and nobody cares for them anymore and exactly this is the point.
You would need to hack the OS for every generation of every manufacturer separately.
Nobody will do the work even if it is possible somehow, until Google creates an API or a plugin or whatever.

How to know what radio chip that is inside ones head unit ?

Netuddki said:
I have a SC9853I Octa Core processor in my device, but the processor has nothing to do with anything.
The Radio Tuner chip is what it is about.
The newest radios have the chip TEF6686 and the older ones have the TDA7786.
There is no way to control the radio chip. Period.
I had a dozen Android Radios before this.
You don't even get my actual radio anymore, because the market develops so fast.
The old devices are sold and nobody cares for them anymore and exactly this is the point.
You would need to hack the OS for every generation of every manufacturer separately.
Nobody will do the work even if it is possible somehow, until Google creates an API or a plugin or whatever.
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All these units have the TEF6686 or the TDA7786 radio chip (i.e. my Xtrons has the TEF6686). The radio chip is controlled by the MCU that interface the Radio android app. To develop an Off Line Radio app, you need to know which informations/commands are exchanged between the MCU and the Android app, if you don't have this knowledge, you will never be able to develop an off line radio app. Period!
In this forum, several user has this ability and developed lot of alternative off line radios. This is confirmed by the huge number of people here using these app on their units.

There's no room for language and any kind of disrespect in discussions on XDA. You can disagree and still be civil. :good:

We updated the app.
Beside many small bugfixes we added RDS/Playing Now display, which means, you will see the actually played song's artist and title and any data the station is sending with the stream.
Available only where the station actually provide the data!

Netuddki said:
We updated the app.
Beside many small bugfixes we added RDS/Playing Now display, which means, you will see the actually played song's artist and title and any data the station is sending with the stream.
Available only where the station actually provide the data!
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Hello. I have been using your app for a few days now and it is great. Great work!
I just have a question and a suggestion.
Question: Would it be possible to make your app launch automatically and play in the background when I turn my key, like the stock offline radio app does? This seems fairly easy and I'm sure there must be a way, I am probably missing something...
Suggestion: Would it be at all possible to make a way for users to add their own stations, without the need to bother you? I don't mean add them to everyone, just add them to my own head unit.

DC69 said:
Hello. I have been using your app for a few days now and it is great. Great work!
I just have a question and a suggestion.
Question: Would it be possible to make your app launch automatically and play in the background when I turn my key, like the stock offline radio app does? This seems fairly easy and I'm sure there must be a way, I am probably missing something...
Suggestion: Would it be at all possible to make a way for users to add their own stations, without the need to bother you? I don't mean add them to everyone, just add them to my own head unit.
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I am glad that you like the app.
The app starts automatically when the head unit starts if you didn't close the app manually before. You need to check the settings in your device.
Adding stations only for yourself was something we were thinking about, but we skipped the idea.
Please bother us with station requests.
We have a long queue right now, but we are working on it intensively, so it shouldn't take too long to get your stations.
If you write an email to us, you will get the stations even faster.

Netuddki said:
We have developed an online radio app specifically for android head units, becasue the fm radio of the china devices are mostly utter crap.
We extend the country and station list continuously, but if you want us to add a specific country and/or your favorite station, drop us an email.
You find the app here:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.threedmagic.carradio
UPDATE:
We updated the app.
Beside many small bugfixes we added RDS/Playing Now display, which means, you will see the actually played song's artist and title and any data the station is sending with the stream.
Available only where the station actually provide the data!
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Why do you add stations manually (on request)?
You could get stations from here:
radio-browser.info
www.radio-browser.info
There is also an API for app integration
API.radio-browser.info docs
with coding example
https://api.radio-browser.info/examples/serverlist.java

TorstenH said:
Why do you add stations manually (on request)?
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Because we have no interest in quantity, but quality.
Please read the description of the app on the play store to learn what stations we add to the app.
You can find dozens of radio apps on the playstore which have thousands of useless channels and playlists to wade through.

Netuddki said:
Because we have no interest in quantity, but quality.
Please read the description of the app on the play store to learn what stations we add to the app.
You can find dozens of radio apps on the playstore which have thousands of useless channels and playlists to wade through.
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That's exactly the reason I use other apps.

TorstenH said:
That's exactly the reason I use other apps.
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They are there for people like you. Our app is apparently not for you.

HengCheng PRO s9

Hello,
I recently purchased this unit:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001723766214.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.52f54c4dcVJLhn
The install was a little difficult but went okay. For some reason when I try to login to login to google playstore it automatically closes. I have tried allowing app permissions and clearing storage and cache. It says it is running Android 10 API 29 (qp1a.190711.l020). It has carlink installed but does not seem to recognize my phone. I have managed to get the Bluetooth working, but I guess I should have done more research and gotten a unit that other people have. Do I risk bricking the device if I try to flash another version of android onto it? I like the DSP and some of the features but I can't even log in to google. Also could someone tell me if this is MTCD or the other? The company is responding to my questions so far but it was really late in China when I told them I can't log in to google, so hopefully they message me with a fix tomorrow. There seems to be 4 instances of an app called "Launcher 3" and an app called "App store" that says it could ruin my device if I try to uninstall so I just disabled it. This thing seemed to have all the features on paper, 8 cores, 128gb ram, 4gb rom, DSP, dash cam, rear view cam, optical audio out, 4g antenna, external sim card, gps antenna, 5 g capability... you name it. They "accidentally" sent me the 64 gb version instead of 128gb but they sent me a free dash cam and tpms to make up for the mistake (which they denied at first). If anyone knows why google would be doing this and a fix please let me know. Big let down for 450 bucks.

Please post a picture of the system about screen for your unit, that would help determine if it is MTCD/E. You should be able to find such a screen in the settings.
You're pretty lucky that they're responding to your inquiries. There is a chance that your head unit is not running Android 10 and may be fake in many regards (e.g. running much earlier version and "claiming" to be Android 10)).

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Please post a picture of the system about screen for your unit, that would help determine if it is MTCD/E. You should be able to find such a screen in the settings.
You're pretty lucky that they're responding to your inquiries. There is a chance that your head unit is not running Android 10 and may be fake in many regards (e.g. running much earlier version and "claiming" to be Android 10)).
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Thank you for the quick response. Yeah, at least they are responding. If you click the add it looks so legit with the 8 core 64 gb 4 gb ram. But my home screen looks nothing like what they advertise.View attachment Home screen.webp

Please scroll the view up on the about screen and take another picture. It is hard to see with what looks like plastic film on the screen. Would like to see the MCU version and perhaps additional information. Thank you for posting the first picture.

Oh and my pleasure to try to help you. We need to determine for sure what the head unit is and if it's MTCD/E I along with others here in the forums would be glad to try to answer your questions and help you resolve the issues you're having.

Sorry it's super bright out. Here ya go.

The only units I could find that use that particular CPU (UIS7862) are Joying branded head units. Their units are not MTCD/E. That being said, this thread probably should be moved to Android Head Units as the discussion in that forum are for non MTCx head units.
I will offer you this suggestion regarding the Google login issue, try opening the YouTube app or Google search app and try logging in from one of those. Alternatively locate the Accounts section in the settings and see if you can login to Google from there. That may help with the Google Play launching issue. If you can get GP to launch then you will be able to get Play Services updated and other applicable updates to make the Google apps/ecosystem work.
Once you get Google Play working, I would suggest installing an app like CPU-Z to see what your system consists of.
One more thing, welcome to the XDA community.

jlbooth said:
The only units I could find that use that particular CPU (UIS7862) are Joying branded head units. Their units are not MTCD/E. That being said, this thread probably should be moved to Android Head Units as the discussion in that forum are for non MTCx head units.
I will offer you this suggestion regarding the Google login issue, try opening the YouTube app or Google search app and try logging in from one of those. Alternatively locate the Accounts section in the settings and see if you can login to Google from there. That may help with the Google Play launching issue. If you can get GP to launch then you will be able to get Play Services updated and other applicable updates to make the Google apps/ecosystem work.
Once you get Google Play working, I would suggest installing an app like CPU-Z to see what your system consists of.
One more thing, welcome to the XDA community.
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For sure, I have heard the Joying are decent. I haven't been able to get it to interface with my phone other than viewing it as files. I cant do the mirror screen split screen that is advertised in the AliExpress ad. I tried to download Zlink apk and install it (disabled third party app restriction) and it said not installed. Maybe I need an older version than 4.0.6? Unfortunately none of your tips worked, even the google one, but thank you so much for taking the time to assist me. Hopefully the seller has a fix for this, as I am not great with android.

Requested via report to move to Android Head units forum.

Sorry that my suggestions did not work for you. I have asked the forum moderators to move this thread to the Android Head units forum where maybe someone in that forum maybe has experience with the same or similar head units as yours. Suggest searching the forums here as I'm confident that somebody has solved the Google login problems you are experiencing.
Your head unit should just work out of the box. I would not recommend updating firmware or such major changes before getting your unit working at a minimum as you expect. Thing with that is how will you know if additional problems that you might encounter are from the update vs what you have now?

marchnz said:
Requested via report to move to Android Head units forum.
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Already done same before. Thank you.

By selecting one of the variants of launcher as the default launcher app you should be able to get the user interface to look as shown on the ad where you bought the unit. Since these devices are sold under many brand names, they often include many different launchers which is what provides the user experience seen when the system boots up.
You should find a default apps selection in the settings where you can pick the default launcher.
One more suggestion that might get it where you can login to Google would be to locate the factory reset option in the settings. Since you couldn't install any new apps on it anyway, not much to lose customization wise.

I believe there is a system patch for the FYT IS7862 units. My IDoing came working so I assume it was already patched, but if you head to the Joying thread you'll see posts about a system patch. Not sure that patch will work for your unit, I think that's what you need.

Actually, they are being pretty helpful. They just sent me an update I have yet to install (kind of afraid as it is working now and I realized I don't really need google integration. Here is a screenshot. Good to know it is a FYT IS7862 unit.

Here is the new firmware she sent me and instructions. Honestly kinda scared. She didn't tell me what I am upgrading to, she just said new version. Maybe someone could check this RAR out if they have time?
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/2f...6e4ab0a57f920b634846c7f920210515022252/aac7ff

Just for fun I went to the download page and did a screenshot of the page. I then ran the screenshot through the Google translate app. With the transition set to go from Chinese to English, the download link says "overseas system. rar".
You could possibly run the PNG file that you attached to your post thru Google translate and maybe figure out the filenames. The picture is not clear enough to do the same as the picture resolution is pretty bad. Was hoping maybe the download filename would offer some clues about what the rar file contains.
Maybe you could request from whoever sent you the link, an English version of the download if available. Granted they say something about English text showing up in green after the flash. I could totally understand your apprehension since you cannot read the filenames.
I could unrar the file and try getting filename translations, might be helpful.

Man, I really appreciate you looking into that for me. I went ahead and bit the bullet and did it and it booted up with a different theme and reset to factory settings. Seems to be dropping my home wifi connection now. I havent tried putting a sim card in the unit yet, as I only have a micro sim from my tablet. I asked her several times what we are upgrading and she said it's not the android version, but a fix to make google login work. So, I went to login to google and instead of getting hung up and crashing after the "checking info..." screen it actually had a box to type my gmail address and let me type it and press login. Then it said "Cannot contact google servers, try again later.
This 1.4 GB file seems large for a small fix. There were like three ZIP files in the rar. Also, when I look at what is using memory on the unit there are like 10 apps I didn't open in the background. Makes me feel like the mfg. has some spyware or malware on the unit. Isn't it commonplace to completely wipe one of these units clean and install a different version of android? Why couldn't I just install android 11? Is it becasue I wont be able to find the apks for unique apps and functionality on there?

They usually (never) provide system patches that fix one specific thing. By providing the whole system update it still makes it impossible to know exactly what's being installed.
Unfortunately it's not so simple to go from one version of Android to another as they intentionally make it difficult to do. It kind of puts a lifespan on these units. There's always gonna be something broken or something that will eventually break rendering the unit useless or just be a flaw that you end up accepting. Plus by limiting the Android version its planned obsolescence as updates won't always be available forever.
Maybe and it's a big maybe you can find an alternative ROM for your particular system right here on XDA. Those are becoming more and more rare because of numerous factors however.
I wouldn't recommend logging into the head unit with a Google account that has a payment method associated with it. Maybe create a whole new Google account just in case? Also you could try going somewhere that you can get free public WiFi (e.g WalMart, McDonald's, etc). All that would do is confirm it works, for what it's worth.
Regarding the wifi connectivity issue, was it able to connect to the same wifi before applying that provided update? Is the wifi signal strength good? It's likely connecting to the wifi but not getting an IP address and other connection parameters and disconnecting on failure. There is an advanced workaround that involves manually setting the network connection parameters (e.g IP address, etc) but you'd need to be comfortable with doing that sort of thing. Let me know if interested.
Despite the update essentially doing a factory reset as part of the firmware installation, I suggest manually doing a factory reset. Maybe even do the reset a couple times just to be sure. Truth is that the device should just work out of the box without the extra contortions.

Apparently the Google login problem is a common issue and there are claims of Google hacks on these units as well:
Post in thread 'New Joying Android 10 UIS7862 Octacore 1.8GHz (4GB RAM, 64GB flash)' https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...8ghz-4gb-ram-64gb-flash.4168069/post-85003075

I was looking at one of these on Aliexpress and found this thread. @CaliBurr, do you have any updates on how this is unit is working out for you?

HELP!! Change car icons on PX6 10.4 Tesla Unit

I recently purchased one of these head units from China. I like it. It is snappy and works well. After purchasing item, the seller contacted me and said that I needed to pay another 20USD for reprogramming, because of the kind of A/C in my Ram 1500. OK.. I found it odd, but accepted it.
When the unit arrived and I installed it, I was slightly disappointed.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
I was hoping that the software would be tailored to the vehicle. Instead I'm getting these generic images showing when the car door is open and the image of what looks like an Aston Martin. I asked the seller if these can be changed and he said No.
I happen to know that the answer is false as if I would have bought the unit from Phoenix or Linkswell, I would have this..
Clearly that is a Ram.. and the other icons in the youtube video were also correct.
Anyone here knows how to change the vehicle icons?
Also, the reversing camera seems to be of a very low resolution compared to the crystal clear image I used to get with my factory 8" display. Would appreciate help in that area.
I'm not completely upset. These aren't deal breakers in me using the unit. I just wished for a little bit more attention to detail.

Is there anyone that can help me with getting my head unit to appear more factory?
1. I would like to change the vehicle icons to show the Ram or at least a truck.
2. I would like to get the camera to be more clearer.
3. Maybe change the theme a little.

Well...
The car pictures are included in the firmware and you can´t change that yourself without rooting the device, searching for the system apps which includes the different car pictures, creating your own pictures in the same shape, size and so on and put them back into the apps. You need to have a good knowledge of PSP to position and move the own pictures to the same view as the given one.
You probably need a couple of days to get that working and not look crappy.
Example: You need to create pictures for each door opening, you need to have pictures for all of them of the car from the exact same angle and this is needed for all pictures you want to exchange. Nearly not possible.
The cam picture is related to your camera. Seems that it is not of a good quality with low resolution.
Theme changes... forget it. No chance.

rigattoni said:
Well...
The car pictures are included in the firmware and you can´t change that yourself without rooting the device, searching for the system apps which includes the different car pictures, creating your own pictures in the same shape, size and so on and put them back into the apps. You need to have a good knowledge of PSP to position and move the own pictures to the same view as the given one.
You probably need a couple of days to get that working and not look crappy.
Example: You need to create pictures for each door opening, you need to have pictures for all of them of the car from the exact same angle and this is needed for all pictures you want to exchange. Nearly not possible.
The cam picture is related to your camera. Seems that it is not of a good quality with low resolution.
Theme changes... forget it. No chance.
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Thank you for the reply. It sounds like a mission to root the device and change the icons, but I guess vendors like Phoenix and Linkswell have multiple employees that can do that easily.
As for the cam picture, on my stock 8" factory Uconnect, it was really clear. Only after switching to the android unit, is the picture quite a low resolution. It is still usable though.

These vendors don´t do anything.
The software development is outsourced to another company and they just work on requirements. To adapt a software to your specific car... costs a lot of money, because the graphics need to be taken and worked on... Even don´t think about the possibility to get this changed by the vendor.
If you want to get it... you need to do it yourself. I started a while ago with it and gave up after some days because I did not get the relevant pictures in the right angle.
Ah one thing additional: You are not able to update your unit afterwards, otherwise all your changes are lost.
Example: Only for the door thingi, you need to create these new files:

@knightjp You will find these and all the others in the launcher.apk.
The files I showed are in \res\drawable-w720dp-hdpi-v13, but you need to look first if one change in there changes anything on your radio. Not a fast thing... and you need to use the radio on bench instead in car, because you need a long time.

@rigattoni Thank you for the information. How do you access launcher.apk?

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@rigattoni Thank you for the information. How do you access launcher.apk?
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Just use 7zip and unzip the apk on the desktop to work on it.
Attention: You need to exchange the files in the zip file itself (APK is just the same as a zip file).

rigattoni said:
Just use 7zip and unzip the apk on the desktop to work on it.
Attention: You need to exchange the files in the zip file itself (APK is just the same as a zip file).
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Thank you for the info. I mean where would I find the launcher.apk so that I can make a copy of it to a USB and then work on it. I'm browsing through the file manager on my unit and I can't seem to find it.
Sorry.. I'm new all of this..
This are the details of my unit. I did manage to find a group on Facebook where one guy said that he could help. But then he said that my unit is a 1600x1200 resolution display and he doesn't have the custom firmware ready for these units yet.
Tesla Style. Firmware and HeadUnits | Facebook
Custom firmware for PX3/PX6 Tesla style headunits for ANY vehicle types. Supported Android versions: 7.1, 8.1, 9 Donation link: https://boosty.to/teslafw.
www.facebook.com
Maybe he can help you.

rigattoni said:
You need to use a file manager as FX with root right add-on. With the internal file manager you won't find anything... And the unit needs to be rooted.
I don't need anything I just sold the unit.
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Ok.. How do I root the device?
Sorry.. I’m just new to all of this.

knightjp said:
Ok.. How do I root the device?
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upload your firmware. maybe it is possible to root.

localos said:
upload your firmware. maybe it is possible to root.
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How do I do that? I do have to apologize. I'm totally a newbie at this.

Do you think that this will work for my unit?
Gen 4 2014-2018 Ram Radio Updates (DGPU10-4RR-4A) - LinksWell, Inc.
Download Links for Update files: Dropbox Link
www.linkswellinc.com

Well... I am not in the position to verify that this is the right firmware for your particular unit.
You need to ask there, not here.
No one on this forum would be able to answer that.

rigattoni said:
Well... I am not in the position to verify that this is the right firmware for your particular unit.
You need to ask there, not here.
No one on this forum would be able to answer that.
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I've checked with Linkswell. They said that the firmware only matches the radios they sell. Not sure I believe them since their radios are made in the same factory that mine was. They just put their own firmware on it.
Its fine. This group on Facebook have custom firmware that look really good and pretty much factory.
Tesla Style. Firmware and HeadUnits | Facebook
Custom firmware for PX3/PX6 Tesla style headunits for ANY vehicle types. Supported Android versions: 7.1, 8.1, 9 Donation link: https://boosty.to/teslafw.
www.facebook.com
I'm happy to wait until they've got something out.

@knightjp
These units are too different as it would be possible to flash something from another supplier.
If you would have a MTC* unit it would be easy to exchange between different suppliers, but not for these units.
I even would not rely on any facebook groups... Too much idiots running around there. If you want to change something which is not done by the supplier, just do it yourself. You just need to make sure that you are able to reset the stuff if somethings going wrong.
Even to flash any firmware provided by someone else should only be done if the original firmware is available for getting the radio back working. Don´t use any firmware without having the original firmware.

@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.

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@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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See you back here asking how to recover your bricked unit

knightjp said:
@rigattoni I completely understand what you are saying. However this group came highly recommended by a number of forums, threads posts; specific to my vehicle and others. The users who have received custom firmwares from the group and are completely happy. They actually say that it is in many ways better than the stock.
Considering I have no experience with "rooting", etc., I don't want to do anything that will completely ruin the device unless I have clear instructions, step by step. I like the unit and it works well, despite the little things that make my OCD flare up.
So I will just wait.
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I go fully with Marchnz.
At least if you not really know what you are doing and make an own question mark behind each instruction, you should not change anything yourself. Keep it as is and be lucky with the performance. Those small things like a different car on the screen... well... You loose more if you brick the unit.
The problem is, that this firmware needs to be made for your paricular head unit involving the MCU and built in hardware and not just for a specific car. Wrong firmware can brick the unit and if you are not able to help yourself out of this dilemma... you would be lost, because none of the current user would be able to explain the unit specific way to get out of this issue.
So I would say: If you don´t know out of memory to root this device and don´t have the original MCU and firmware... kepp your fingers away from the internals.... just some famous 2 cent.

Help

Hey there all.. newbie here . I got an android headunit for my car and this thing works but I want to know if I can change it up. If there's any way to change the themes, or the look of it. I watched a video on this site and thought this would be a good place to start. The unit is one of these in the attached picture. In the video I watched the requirements seemed to be identical to the one I have but looks way cooler than the one I have. I saw something about no buttons, and I don't believe these are buttons on mine.. I also have a USB port up front and the one in the video didn't. I am completely new to this idea so I'm probably going to ask questions that may seem like common knowledge but I gotta ask so I can learn. Also I'm wondering if the downloads that were advertised in the video will work on this unit or if it has to be modded. There were some units with additional fans on it, people had the motherboard out and ****.. idk. The way it looked to me was download, backup, and install. And follow the directions to the T...
Thanks in advance

whynot6166 said:
Hey there all.. newbie here . I got an android headunit for my car and this thing works but I want to know if I can change it up. If there's any way to change the themes, or the look of it. I watched a video on this site and thought this would be a good place to start. The unit is one of these in the attached picture. In the video I watched the requirements seemed to be identical to the one I have but looks way cooler than the one I have. I saw something about no buttons, and I don't believe these are buttons on mine.. I also have a USB port up front and the one in the video didn't. I am completely new to this idea so I'm probably going to ask questions that may seem like common knowledge but I gotta ask so I can learn. Also I'm wondering if the downloads that were advertised in the video will work on this unit or if it has to be modded. There were some units with additional fans on it, people had the motherboard out and ****.. idk. The way it looked to me was download, backup, and install. And follow the directions to the T...
Thanks in advance
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You can any install launcher to change look.
Check google play store for: Agama launcher, CarWebGuru or CarLauncher