Does AI upscaling works for videos played in KODI app?
What are the apps in nvidia shield tv pro which support AI upscaling?
nitinsawant said:
What are the apps in nvidia shield tv pro which support AI upscaling?
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Not 100% sure but I'd guess probably any app that outputs 720p 30fps or 1080p 30fps while connected to a higher resolution screen.
Plex works, and i also assume kodi does too
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I've asked Mad Catz but not had a reply. I'm looking for some info before I buy.
The MOJO is meant to be a 4K console, however I'm struggling to find any more info about this, does it do actual 4K or does it do like most cheap Android TV hardware and downscale 4K to 1080P internally before upscaling at 4k?
Can it play 4k HEVC (h.265) at 60fps? (the UHD standard)
Does it have HDMI 2.0?
cheers for any advice.
mmace said:
I've asked Mad Catz but not had a reply. I'm looking for some info before I buy.
The MOJO is meant to be a 4K console, however I'm struggling to find any more info about this, does it do actual 4K or does it do like most cheap Android TV hardware and downscale 4K to 1080P internally before upscaling at 4k?
Can it play 4k HEVC (h.265) at 60fps? (the UHD standard)
Does it have HDMI 2.0?
cheers for any advice.
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Hi,
Sorry, I don't have a 4k tv to tell you.
Why would any device (cheap or expensive) downscale from 4k and upscaling it back to 4k? doesn't sound right to me.
Do you mean just upscale 1080P to 4k?
Does it have HDMI 2.0?
I doubt it, as it come out only a month before the mojo's launch date.
But it does support 4k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
I know it supports 4k, but that doesn't mean anything, a lot of devices do but all they mean is that they output at 4k (upscale), I need to know if it renders a 4k video at 4k and output it at 4k, if all the mojo can do is output 4k then it plays a 4k video at 1080p as that's all it can handle (downscaling it) then output at 4k, there just seems to be no info and their web page isn't clear at all.
mmace said:
I know it supports 4k, but that doesn't mean anything, a lot of devices do but all they mean is that they output at 4k (upscale), I need to know if it renders a 4k video at 4k and output it at 4k, if all the mojo can do is output 4k then it plays a 4k video at 1080p as that's all it can handle (downscaling it) then output at 4k, there just seems to be no info and their web page isn't clear at all.
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The page is pretty detailed with tech, It's native support at [email protected] fps, 100% no doubt for me.
http://madcatz.com/4k-coming-to-mojo/
They even give visual proof:
http://madcatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/TOS1.jpg
"We did some 4K tests at UCSD’s Qualcomm Institute, using their LG 84” 84LM9600.
QI’s Todd Margolis showing Blender’s 4K CGI Demo Video Tears of Steel playing from the M.O.J.O.
Above, QI’s Todd Margolis shows Blender’s 4K CGI Demo Video Tears of Steel playing on M.O.J.O. Download it yourself from here and watch it in 4K. It’s free!
We used the MX Player app which supported .mov, .mp4 and more 4K file types. In our tests, we noticed some dropped frames only when bit-rates got higher than about 70Mbits/s."
You can use the controller as a remote, and it doesn't look fake to me, maybe his grin, lol.
I Imagine if a 1080p was upscaled to 4k it wouldn't look as clear as it does in that image (I can't see any pixelation, can you?) .
I doubt MadCatz would go to the trouble of testing it and make a page like that if it was just upscaled from 1080p.
Try asking on amazon, good luck
Edit, or ask Todd yourself: http://toddmargolis.net/about.php
His twitter, etc are at the bottom.
It does not have hdmi 2.0 so you will be limited to 30 fps.
Anyone having this issue? It will play around 10-15 secs then it will prompt me this.. Only happening on 4K contents. The problem is I cannot uninstall Netflix as it was embedded on the shield. I already signout, restart the machine but still getting this.
Is the shield TV connected to a HDCP 2.2 compliant HDMI input on your TV?
Also, try another account. I used to have this problem a lot on the built-in Netflix app on my samsung TV, and for some reason changing from my kid's profile to mine playing the exact same thing would work.
I have never seen this on my Shield TV, unless my internet connection drops...
do you think hdmi rated 10.6gb is not enough?
ad78 said:
do you think hdmi rated 10.6gb is not enough?
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I am not sure...
But 10.2Gb/s is hdmi 1.4 / HDCP 1.4...while HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 is 18Gbps.
Did you try the HDMI cable provided with the Shield? This is the one I use and have no problem.
And again, the input used on the TV has to be HDCP 2.2 compliant. On my Samsung TV (2014) for example, only HDMI 3 can do HDMI2.0+HDCP 2.2 (only 30hz), all other inputs are HDMI 2.0 (at 60hz) but non HDCP 2.2 compliant.
What TV brand / model do you have?
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I am not sure...
But 10.2Gb/s is hdmi 1.4 / HDCP 1.4...while HDMI 2.0 / HDCP 2.2 is 18Gbps.
Did you try the HDMI cable provided with the Shield? This is the one I use and have no problem.
And again, the input used on the TV has to be HDCP 2.2 compliant. On my Samsung TV (2014) for example, only HDMI 3 can do HDMI2.0+HDCP 2.2 (only 30hz), all other inputs are HDMI 2.0 (at 60hz) but non HDCP 2.2 compliant.
What TV brand / model do you have?
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I'm sorry it's 10.2gb
Here's my dilemma.. YouTube on shield was set to 2160p played without any issue.. Not a single buffer. Very smooth
I checked the settings on shield it was set to 4K 30hz. Yes I'm using the provided hdmi from shield going to my 4K Sony receiver.
My tv is Vizio 4K 2015 model. At the back of the TV I have 4 HDMI. It was set to hdmi 1 which is 30hz. I tried swapping to HDMI 2 60hz but I'm getting the same problem.
Ill try uninstall updates on Netflix as soon as I get home and keep you posted. Or probably try rooting the hell out of the shield and sideload netflix from play store
ad78 said:
I'm sorry it's 10.2gb
Here's my dilemma.. YouTube on shield was set to 2160p played without any issue.. Not a single buffer. Very smooth
I checked the settings on shield it was set to 4K 30hz. Yes I'm using the provided hdmi from shield going to my 4K Sony receiver.
My tv is Vizio 4K 2015 model. At the back of the TV I have 4 HDMI. It was set to hdmi 1 which is 30hz. I tried swapping to HDMI 2 60hz but I'm getting the same problem.
Ill try uninstall updates on Netflix as soon as I get home and keep you posted. Or probably try rooting the hell out of the shield and sideload netflix from play store
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Here's the deal...youtube doesn't care about content protection, so anyone with a 4k tv can stream 4k content from youtube. HDMI 1.4 will support 4k resolution at 30hz no problem, so no problem with youtube. Netflix however, cares. So streaming Netflix in 4k requires all your involved components (shield TV, receiver, TV) to be HDCP 2.2 compliant (HDCP = High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection) + HDMI cables supporting the necessary bandwidth for 4k+HDCP2.2 (18Gbps).
4k receivers might have all HDMI inputs HDCP2.2 compliant, some have 1 only, some have none, all depending of how old and how much you paid for it.
If I were you, before uninstalling netflix updates and stuff, I would connect the shield TV directly to the TV (no receiver), and see if the problem persists. From what I read online, if you have a 2015 Vizio M series, only input 5 will do 4k+HDCP 2.2
"Only one HDMI input, Input 5, is compatible with both newfangled HDMI connection protocols, namely HDMI 2.0 and HDCP 2.2 copy protection. The former allows 4K frame rates up to 60Hz, the fastest currently available. The latter allows the TV to accept copy-protected 4K content over HDMI, from devices like the Sony FMP-X10 media player, the Nvidia Shield playing back certain copy-protected content such as Netflix 4K, and forthcoming 4K Blu-Ray content. 2015 4K TVs from Samsung, Sony and LG offer multiple so-equipped inputs.
The other four are version 1.4, meaning they can handle 1080p sources up to 60Hz and 4K sources up to 30Hz. Of those four, only two support HDCP 2.2."
http://www.cnet.com/products/vizio-m-series-2015/2/
I spent hours and hours reading about all that stuff...and this is a huge headache for consumers!!!! To get my system where I want it to be, I'd have to spend $400 on a "Samsung evolution kit" + another $500 on a receiver!! Just because of all that HDCP BS...
Thanks man.. What a good read. I'll try your recommendation for sure.
so i directly inserted the HDMI cable from TV to shield showed all "ultra HD" menu.. i just realized that my 4K sony receiver is not HDCP 2.2 supported. Damn!
definitely, my 4K vizio TV is HDCP 2.2 capable since i can play netflix ultra HD on it.
thanks..
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so i directly inserted the HDMI cable from TV to shield showed all "ultra HD" menu.. i just realized that my 4K sony receiver is not HDCP 2.2 supported. Damn!
definitely, my 4K vizio TV is HDCP 2.2 capable since i can play netflix ultra HD on it.
thanks..
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Yep...As I said 4K is going to be a massive headache for consumers...Netflix, Amazon, 4k bluray players, STBs etc will all require HDCP2.2... Many people are going to buy those new 4k TVs, to soon realize that their receivers, soundbars and other peripherals won't be able to work anymore. It's really a pain considering how much a good receiver costs...
What makes it even more of a BS is that this whole thing is only about content protection and encryption of the video signal to avoid piracy...guess what, it's already been cracked. All the 4k content from Netflix is already available on torrents. Yet we have to spend extra $$$ on hardware for legitimate content we are already paying for. Anyways...
Glad I could help!
good thing i bought the receiver after Nov 1. which is qualified for holiday returns until Jan 15.
thanks again
4k on Shield Tv
Yes having the same problem, Netflix is saying it's the bitrate from the ISP, but have a Roku4 that streaming fine on the same network. Netflix is saying the ISP is singling out the Shield and capping it. Hmm
Hello there.
So I have a Nvidia shield tv pro which does a great job upscaling HD content to 4k. I currently use a 4k oled television so it works hand in hand.
This weekend I am upgrading to the 2019 model of Samsung QLED 8k television series.
So my question is. How will shield decide upscaling, will both the TV and shield work against each other, which device will have priority in upscaling. Would turning off upscaling on the shield make it better?
Also would things be clearer or better straight from the TV apps due to shield being made for 4k? Currently buying a 8k HDMI cable to put into the shield from the TV too if that helps.
Hopefully I can get some insight.
The Nvidia shield tv only supports HDMI 2.0b which supports 4k at 60hz and either doesn't support 8k or only supports it at 30hz. I doubt the shield supports 8k output atall. I would say to leave nvidias scaling on and see how it does it will upscale to a maximum of 4k on its own then the tv will do the rest.
Always let the TV do the upscaling. The processor and algorithms will be better than the Shield's as the manufacturer knows what to do with the pixels based on its design. All 8K TVs know how to upscale from 4K because there isn't any 8K content.
I just switched to Shield TV Pro from Apple TV4k and I can't set resolution to 4K 60 HDR
I have up to 30 frames option but then UI is not smooth
Based on Nvidia website, the box supports 4k 60fps HDR but whats the problem ?
Maybe your Hdmi-cable is not compatible?
then why same cable works with apple tv 4k?
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then why same cable works with apple tv 4k?
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what happens when you set it to 60 hz on the shield?
I buy 4k + 1080p + digital movies, rip the 1080p and 4k hdr content at its highest quality sometimets upto 70GB size for 4k hdr pure mkv files, disc on my hdd and stream through plex on shield tv pro 2019.
is ai scaling pointless if the files are pure mkv 4k and 1080p and direct play from pc to shield?
whats there to upscale?
1080p to 4k scaling?
I did demo test on avatar 1080p, it upscales it most definitely, wow.
4k hdr doesn't get upscaled says nothing to upscale. ofc. unless 8k streaming device.
makes me wonder if nvidia has more in the works since 2019 for a new device even better n more powerful.