I buy 4k + 1080p + digital movies, rip the 1080p and 4k hdr content at its highest quality sometimets upto 70GB size for 4k hdr pure mkv files, disc on my hdd and stream through plex on shield tv pro 2019.
is ai scaling pointless if the files are pure mkv 4k and 1080p and direct play from pc to shield?
whats there to upscale?
1080p to 4k scaling?
I did demo test on avatar 1080p, it upscales it most definitely, wow.
4k hdr doesn't get upscaled says nothing to upscale. ofc. unless 8k streaming device.
makes me wonder if nvidia has more in the works since 2019 for a new device even better n more powerful.
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4k recording is on lte not in 3g.is it true?
if 3g version dosnot have 4k recording then ..there will b patch to record 4k records?let me know
Snap Processor - LTE & 4K recording
Octa Processor - More Ram & 4 Cores but no LTE or 4k
It boils down to processors not 3g
Nope, there will never be any patch. Hardware limitation.
BTW, do you have a 4K TV or a monitor? If not, I find it hard to understand why would you need a 4K. If you have a 4K display, then it makes sense for you.
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BTW, do you have a 4K TV or a monitor? If not, I find it hard to understand why would you need a 4K. If you have a 4K display, then it makes sense for you.
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May be he has. May be does not. Who cares? Let technology spread out. Otherwise we would have stuck with 3GP and low bitrate MP4s.
I totally agree 4k content atm really rare but so did 1080p. Did people sat idle and stuck with 3GP recording in the fear that OMG! 1080p is so huge!!!!!!! I would not buy a 64 GB card for that.
4k is a nice addition. And to your other point-before 1080p displays came out all the 720p display like S3 were able to shoot and playback 1080p. Did anyone question why 1080p on a 720p native display? No.
I have seen two 4k samples and yes I am excited. Specially from the phonearena sample the moving tree leaves looked outstandingly crisp. And if I am the one out of 10 million people who cares about 4k it wont stuck with me forever. With more devices gonna have 4k native [already started to] display and storage like 128 GB 4k will become regular thing. And to be regular stuff like 1080ps or 720ps initiatives like this will naturally occur.
People just cannot keep other people discouraged from a nice tech evolution. If they would succeed people would never move beyond 2 GB memory card and low bitrate 3GP or .rmv video contents and shoot straight out the people who consume ogg music files.
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4k video was just a gimmick I feel. If you dont have device to play 4k content like pc or Tv, there is no point of 4k. Its good that Asians won't get it
i have seen the video comparison b/w 4k n 1080p..too much difference..thats y i like 4k..too much detailed in 4k
have a look
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXiWGD18N3c
Costco had a 4k TV playing the same movie as a 1080p TV and I could genuinely tell the difference. But unfortunately my wallet is a bit too small to early adopt the 4k TV's right now
I'm as much for future-proofing as anyone else here. But where is 4K content coming from and how's it being delivered? Content upscaled to 4K (EG: HD TV/Movies originally captured in 720/1080P) aren't going to look any better than they would on a 720P/1080P TV or monitor. They’ll most likely look worse. 4K content is huge. All the ISPs are already *****ing about what video's doing to their networks. How long did it take for Blu-Ray to become a standard? And the only Blu-Ray that looked good was what was natively captured in HD not the upscaled crap like 50's I love Lucy episodes. So for 4K to become meaningful content producers need to start capturing in it. That 'aint gonna be happening fast as the only ones that benefit from 4K as it stands are the TV manufacturers and they aren't significant enough in the food chain to drive standards forward. So we'll probably all be on the Note 4 (and more likely the N5) when UHD (4K) gains any real traction. Because traction requires native content.
So would I want 4K in the N3? Sure, who wouldn't want extra "cool" stuff for the same price. Would I ever use it to record anything? No, the files are huge and would have to be downscaled to my 1080P TVs, monitors, and devices making natively captured 1080P look better anyway. Am I going to run out and buy 4K playback devices? Absolutely. As soon as at least 1/3 of the content I playback is available in UHD.
An interesting article...
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7-57566079-221/why-ultra-hd-4k-tvs-are-still-stupid/
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i have seen the video comparison b/w 4k n 1080p..too much difference..thats y i like 4k..too much detailed in 4k
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Wow 4k looks really nice. Phonearena posted the sample 4k video but it was useless because youtube converts it to 1080p. The native 1080p video that they posted looked better than 4k on youtube. I can't wait to use 4k. It might not be every time I go to record something but if I love being able to have that option.
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4k video was just a gimmick I feel. If you dont have device to play 4k content like pc or Tv, there is no point of 4k. Its good that Asians won't get it
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It amazes me how short-sighted some people are to say stuff like that. You and Clariion, 2 posts above you, as well as many other people in different threads...Videos, recorded with your phone's camcorder are memories for life. Do you record something only to watch it right away and be done with, never watch it again? 20 years ago, when there was only VHS available - if someone offered you a device, which can record video in DVD quality, would you say "no" to that, because your current TV can only play VHS resolution?...
You're saying "I don't want to record much better quality video just because right now I don't have a TV, that can play it." . In a few years 4k TVs will be a standard in every house, and you'll be watching your wedding's video in sh*itty 1080p, because you chose not to get 4k camcorder just because you didnt have a playback device for it at the time...
I can't believe some of you don't see the benefits of 4k even if you plan on never getting a 4k TV. While recording in 4k, just your ability to digitally zoom while maintaining excellent quality should be worth the feature being present. It's basically lossless digital zoom (up to a point of course.) I can't imagine anyone not wanting that.
I've asked Mad Catz but not had a reply. I'm looking for some info before I buy.
The MOJO is meant to be a 4K console, however I'm struggling to find any more info about this, does it do actual 4K or does it do like most cheap Android TV hardware and downscale 4K to 1080P internally before upscaling at 4k?
Can it play 4k HEVC (h.265) at 60fps? (the UHD standard)
Does it have HDMI 2.0?
cheers for any advice.
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I've asked Mad Catz but not had a reply. I'm looking for some info before I buy.
The MOJO is meant to be a 4K console, however I'm struggling to find any more info about this, does it do actual 4K or does it do like most cheap Android TV hardware and downscale 4K to 1080P internally before upscaling at 4k?
Can it play 4k HEVC (h.265) at 60fps? (the UHD standard)
Does it have HDMI 2.0?
cheers for any advice.
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Hi,
Sorry, I don't have a 4k tv to tell you.
Why would any device (cheap or expensive) downscale from 4k and upscaling it back to 4k? doesn't sound right to me.
Do you mean just upscale 1080P to 4k?
Does it have HDMI 2.0?
I doubt it, as it come out only a month before the mojo's launch date.
But it does support 4k
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
I know it supports 4k, but that doesn't mean anything, a lot of devices do but all they mean is that they output at 4k (upscale), I need to know if it renders a 4k video at 4k and output it at 4k, if all the mojo can do is output 4k then it plays a 4k video at 1080p as that's all it can handle (downscaling it) then output at 4k, there just seems to be no info and their web page isn't clear at all.
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I know it supports 4k, but that doesn't mean anything, a lot of devices do but all they mean is that they output at 4k (upscale), I need to know if it renders a 4k video at 4k and output it at 4k, if all the mojo can do is output 4k then it plays a 4k video at 1080p as that's all it can handle (downscaling it) then output at 4k, there just seems to be no info and their web page isn't clear at all.
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The page is pretty detailed with tech, It's native support at [email protected] fps, 100% no doubt for me.
http://madcatz.com/4k-coming-to-mojo/
They even give visual proof:
http://madcatz.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/TOS1.jpg
"We did some 4K tests at UCSD’s Qualcomm Institute, using their LG 84” 84LM9600.
QI’s Todd Margolis showing Blender’s 4K CGI Demo Video Tears of Steel playing from the M.O.J.O.
Above, QI’s Todd Margolis shows Blender’s 4K CGI Demo Video Tears of Steel playing on M.O.J.O. Download it yourself from here and watch it in 4K. It’s free!
We used the MX Player app which supported .mov, .mp4 and more 4K file types. In our tests, we noticed some dropped frames only when bit-rates got higher than about 70Mbits/s."
You can use the controller as a remote, and it doesn't look fake to me, maybe his grin, lol.
I Imagine if a 1080p was upscaled to 4k it wouldn't look as clear as it does in that image (I can't see any pixelation, can you?) .
I doubt MadCatz would go to the trouble of testing it and make a page like that if it was just upscaled from 1080p.
Try asking on amazon, good luck
Edit, or ask Todd yourself: http://toddmargolis.net/about.php
His twitter, etc are at the bottom.
It does not have hdmi 2.0 so you will be limited to 30 fps.
Seems that non of my PCs can handle 4K files
Is there a free and good downscaler?
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I recommend iDealshare VideoGo whch can Convert Video in 4K to Video in 1080p with High Output Video Quality.
Hi everyone,
I'm considering the Shield as my streaming box from my NAS. Does anyone have experience with it's 4k video capability? How does it handle it and in what player?
I have played 4k videos (on a 1080p screen, but the videos were 4k) on my shield with Kodi, and it played wonderfully. Just make sure your network has enough speed to handle 4k videos, and you should be fine. I recommend a wired notwork of course. I was able to play them over USB2 with no problems.
Edit: Screenshot added. Big Buck Bunny is always used to test performance, so I thought, why not. 8K was too much for this device understandably, though it should be able to handle more than 4k. Haven't tested 3d or anything of that like as I tend to watch insanely high bitrate anime in 10 bit color which is software decode, and plays fine. (24mbp/s will play fine even x264 hi10p).
S8 Exynos variant, I'm on latest software update (august patch), youtube videos at 1080p 60fps with HDR stutter on my phone. Sometimes the brightness goes down then up then down then up again and so on (HDR clips should keep the brightness all the way up I think). It seems to drop frames also, since I've watched the clips at 720p and I've seen the difference.
The clip I watched was on youtube's recommended smartphones page (S8 is on that page ...).
S8 Exynos variant is not optimized to handle HDR 60FPS High resolution content. It's just..... it can't.
The device is limited of what it can do actually, yes it can play HDR content but moving up to 1080p HDR 60fps and above, it will tear out the screen in youtube, that will make your eyes hurt.
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S8 Exynos variant is not optimized to handle HDR 60FPS High resolution content. It's just..... it can't.
The device is limited of what it can do actually, yes it can play HDR content but moving up to 1080p HDR 60fps and above, it will tear out the screen in youtube, that will make your eyes hurt.
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The problem is with HDR movies only. I watched lots of movies at 1440p 60fps without problems. Also, youtube recognized my phone and 1080p HDR was the maximum choice at Resolution option (on PC it goes higher). If it can't play the movie at 1080p HDR the maximum resolution should be 720p HDR, right?
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The problem is with HDR movies only. I watched lots of movies at 1440p 60fps without problems. Also, youtube recognized my phone and 1080p HDR was the maximum choice at Resolution option (on PC it goes higher). If it can't play the movie at 1080p HDR the maximum resolution should be 720p HDR, right?
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There is a big difference with videos that are HDR and NON-HDR content.
I can watch 60fps 1440p movies NON-HDR without problems.
But watching something that is 1080p HDR content will cause some stuttering and/or fragmentation that stresses our eyes.
S8 is not as good as S9 when it comes to HDR viewing. S9 is provisioned to be HDR ready in Netflix, but S8 is not.