Hello there all, I recently installed an android head unit from AliExpress, and everything went well until I first noticed that non of the buttons on the wheel worked. I saw many posts about this, but I didn't mind as I really didn't use it much. However, I got a professional to install the reversing camera that came with the head unit and try fixing the steering wheel's buttons. Because the professional attempted to fix the buttons for the steering wheel, he caused non of the buttons below the head unit to work (e.g. radio, the numbers, and turning the circle to try and change the volume). The "professional" was only able to get 2 of the buttons on the steering wheel to work (volume up and down, but you have to hold it down for like 5 seconds before it works), and when I tried to get back to him, they didn't respond. Also some reason, the volume will randomly mute every now and then (e.g. listening to music and the volume goes to 0).
I have seen many other threads about checking fuses and removing the battery for 10 minutes; however, I was wondering if there may be other fixes you guys may have that may help before attempting the battery method.
I would also like to say that I'm not overly confident working with or in cars. However, if there is a video or a simple explanation on how to do the fix, that would help make me feel confident.
Car: 2010 Ford Fiesta LX , 4sp auto 1.4L 4cyl Petrol.
Android head unit (model T10 6G 09 to 11): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...0.0.784e38daJ9X36b&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite
edit: I have checked both 15amp and the 7.5amp and they were both fine.
reaL3ty said:
Hello there all, I recently installed an android head unit from AliExpress, and everything went well until I first noticed that non of the buttons on the wheel worked. I saw many posts about this, but I didn't mind as I really didn't use it much. However, I got a professional to install the reversing camera that came with the head unit and try fixing the steering wheel's buttons. Because the professional attempted to fix the buttons for the steering wheel, he caused non of the buttons below the head unit to work (e.g. radio, the numbers, and turning the circle to try and change the volume). The "professional" was only able to get 2 of the buttons on the steering wheel to work (volume up and down, but you have to hold it down for like 5 seconds before it works), and when I tried to get back to him, they didn't respond. Also some reason, the volume will randomly mute every now and then (e.g. listening to music and the volume goes to 0).
I have seen many other threads about checking fuses and removing the battery for 10 minutes; however, I was wondering if there may be other fixes you guys may have that may help before attempting the battery method.
Car: 2010 Ford Fiesta LX , 4sp auto 1.4L 4cyl Petrol.
Android head unit (model T10 6G 09 to 11): https://www.aliexpress.com/item/400...0.0.784e38daJ9X36b&mp=1&gatewayAdapt=Pc2Msite
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Have you set the right car in the CAN-settings menu?
Clarify if your steering wheel buttons are provided via CAN or resistor related. (Car dealer)
rigattoni said:
Have you set the right car in the CAN-settings menu?
Clarify if your steering wheel buttons are provided via CAN or resistor related. (Car dealer)
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I have set the CAN-settings to what the seller provided from AliExpress.
However, I think the steering wheel buttons are functional by resistors/resistance. (e.,g. wiring of KEY1, KEY2 and KEY GND).
I have a feeling that the "professional" may have done something to the wiring or such just to get the steering wheel buttons to work but in the process, he has made the radio control panel buttons not work anymore.
My main focus is just to fix the radio control panels (the picture below) as I use those way more than any other buttons on the steering wheel.
reaL3ty said:
I have set the CAN-settings to what the seller provided from AliExpress.
However, I think the steering wheel buttons are functional by resistors/resistance. (e.,g. wiring of KEY1, KEY2 and KEY GND).
I have a feeling that the "professional" may have done something to the wiring or such just to get the steering wheel buttons to work but in the process, he has made the radio control panel buttons not work anymore.
My main focus is just to fix the radio control panels (the picture below) as I use those way more than any other buttons on the steering wheel.
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The radio control panel is provided by the CAN.
As no one knows what they did to the wiring, any help with it is no possible. You need to talk with the "professional" to get this fixed.
In your case about the SW buttson are connected to the resistor cales, you just need to search for the related app to set them. This is no automatism. May be you need to search for the SW in the settings. As I don´t know your system, I am not able to provide more help here.
Edit: You may test some other CAN-settings, may be they changed something and this leads to the issue with the radio buttons.
rigattoni said:
The radio control panel is provided by the CAN.
As no one knows what they did to the wiring, any help with it is no possible. You need to talk with the "professional" to get this fixed.
In your case about the SW buttson are connected to the resistor cales, you just need to search for the related app to set them. This is no automatism. May be you need to search for the SW in the settings. As I don´t know your system, I am not able to provide more help here.
Edit: You may test some other CAN-settings, may be they changed something and this leads to the issue with the radio buttons.
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I get that, I don't really care about the SW buttons. I'm mainly just more focused on trying to figure out the radio control panel. I'm confused because the radio control panel stopped working as I had the "professional" help. Also, it's hard to talk with them again as they gave just left me on read for about 2 weeks now (from Airtasker).
I'll have another look tomorrow deeper into the CAN-settings, and will message the AliExpress seller for some help as I remember they said a problem like this might occur without the correct CAN-settings as you mentioned as well.
reaL3ty said:
I get that, I don't really care about the SW buttons. I'm mainly just more focused on trying to figure out the radio control panel. I'm confused because the radio control panel stopped working as I had the "professional" help. Also, it's hard to talk with them again as they gave just left me on read for about 2 weeks now (from Airtasker).
I'll have another look tomorrow deeper into the CAN-settings, and will message the AliExpress seller for some help as I remember they said a problem like this might occur without the correct CAN-settings as you mentioned as well.
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Hi All - I've had a Joying Sofia 3GR head unit since March 2017. I need to replace it. I currently have a 2008 Nissan 350Z without Bose or navigation, if this helps in the discussion. I like, but certainly do not love my Sofia unit, overall the experience has gotten far, far too frustrating not to replace this head unit. So here's what I do not like about the unit, and what I'd like to fix with new hardware.
1 - Right off the bat, the unit doesn't fit into any double-din dash kits I have found for this car. I've tried Metra and Scosche kits for the 350z, and the unit is a few mm too wide and too tall for it. Given the way the Z's center stack is designed, going with a unit where the display sticks out and is wider and taller than double-din likely won't work as I only have about 10mm of wiggle room before it touches the HVAC controls or prevents me from opening the center console compartment.
2 - I'm looking for a new unit with capacitive or no buttons. My Joying unit's NAVI button mechanism has failed, so it's stuck in. In addition, the volume encoder randomly adjusts the volume without me touching it. I'll be driving and all of a sudden the volume rises quickly and drastically, I can't have that obviously, it's too large of a distraction. Ideally, I'd like to get my factory steering wheel volume controls back. This has proven difficult as the standard aftermarket steering wheel control modules in the industry are frustrating and there's little documentation about it at all, and I don't believe my car has a CANbus or anything similar. I don't want to stick a BT remote on the wheel, that's silly.
3 - GPS randomly dies completely and bringing it back is luck of the draw. If I go into the Car Settings app or any GPS utility app, it cannot reach satellites. Ever. I've tried a reboot, I've tried manual A-GPS refreshes, I've tried making sure the date/time is correct, I've tried factory resetting it. Nothing, absolutely nothing fixes it with consistency, factory resets have gotten it back sometimes, but not always, and not currently. I guess this could be hardware, I just don't know. Navigation is a big part of why I decided to get one of these units in the first place.
4 - Poor performance. I'm trying to have to interact with the unit as little as possible. I'd like to be able to quickly set the music I want to hear, or the navigation destination of my choice, and have it work as reasonably well as say, my phone does. Currently, the Sofia unit hiccups, gets stuck, crashes, sound glitches, etc often. Usually at least once a day.
5 - Poor sound quality. It just doesn't sound as good as my factory CD player did. Not even close. I was able to get it sounding great with Viper4Android, but that takes up too much CPU headroom, so everything else will glitch, heat up, etc so it's not viable. Also since the 6.0 update, I can't use the EQ function in Viper, which is a large reason of why I was able to get it sounding good previously.
Does anyone have an Android unit that they love, and that actually works with consistency?
I wrote up a review here [Review] ATOTO A6 Install in Subaru WRX, but the bottom line is that i'm happy with ATOTO A6 Pro. I wont repeat the details here, but it addresses most of your needs and I was able to get the steering wheel controls working in my older car.
Hello everyone,
This is my first post in the forum and it is also important for me to say that I am not so good in English so use the Google dictionary, I will try to be as clear as possible, and I will try very hard to understand your answers despite the language gaps. If you can be more detailed it might be helpful.
I bought and installed in the car (skoda) a new audio system with android 10. There is some control over the volume but I have little problem with that. On the original radio, every little turn of the wheel would change the volume significantly, meaning two or three turns were enough to weaken the sound from low to high. Today and after installing the new radio - I need to rotate over 10 turns to get the same result. I searched the settings and didn't find how to set it up. My question is, does anyone here know the matter and know how it can be configured from the settings or via an external app?
new2020yy said:
Hello everyone,
This is my first post in the forum and it is also important for me to say that I am not so good in English so use the Google dictionary, I will try to be as clear as possible, and I will try very hard to understand your answers despite the language gaps. If you can be more detailed it might be helpful.
I bought and installed in the car (skoda) a new audio system with android 10. There is some control over the volume but I have little problem with that. On the original radio, every little turn of the wheel would change the volume significantly, meaning two or three turns were enough to weaken the sound from low to high. Today and after installing the new radio - I need to rotate over 10 turns to get the same result. I searched the settings and didn't find how to set it up. My question is, does anyone here know the matter and know how it can be configured from the settings or via an external app?
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new2020yy said:
I bought and installed in the car (skoda) a new audio system with android 10. There is some control over the volume but I have little problem with that. On the original radio, every little turn of the wheel would change the volume significantly, meaning two or three turns were enough to weaken the sound from low to high. Today and after installing the new radio - I need to rotate over 10 turns to get the same result. I searched the settings and didn't find how to set it up. My question is, does anyone here know the matter and know how it can be configured from the settings or via an external app?
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You do not mention at all which unit you have. You can not expect that everyone will try to help you, if you do not give them the necessary info. There are many brands here with a lot of experienced users for those brands.
What you type is the same as: the volume of my previous TV worked good. The volume of my new TV does not work good. What kind of TV ????
Anyway: if you have a model with CAN bus, you might first try to see if you have the correct CAN bus protocol. Some cars also arrange the volume via the CAN bus. In that case one sub option might give you good volume control (from 1 to 10 in one rotation of the volume knob) and others not (like from 1 to 10 in 10 rotations of the volume knob). And your Skoda might just have such a CAN bus control (mine had that).
And as you type "SWC setup", I assume you mean the horizontal rolling button on your steering wheel, and not the one on your head unit.
surfer63 said:
You do not mention at all which unit you have. You can not expect that everyone will try to help you, if you do not give them the necessary info. There are many brands here with a lot of experienced users for those brands.
What you type is the same as: the volume of my previous TV worked good. The volume of my new TV does not work good. What kind of TV ????
Anyway: if you have a model with CAN bus, you might first try to see if you have the correct CAN bus protocol. Some cars also arrange the volume via the CAN bus. In that case one sub option might give you good volume control (from 1 to 10 in one rotation of the volume knob) and others not (like from 1 to 10 in 10 rotations of the volume knob). And your Skoda might just have such a CAN bus control (mine had that).
And as you type "SWC setup", I assume you mean the horizontal rolling button on your steering wheel, and not the one on your head unit.
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Thank you very much for the detailed response.
You're right, but I didn't know what details could help and I didn't want to just throw in details. I have now downloaded CPU-Z and ADIA64. Can you please say what details are relevant?
About CANBUS - I really have. And with me the volume setting is regulated by him. But I have no idea how to tell if it's set up correctly. I just connected the unit as it came. And right I mean the wheel that is on the steering wheel and the unit itself.
In each case, I'll also include a link to the unit so you can see what it is.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000059343717.html?spm=a2g16.12010612.8148356.2.585e6777jdzSLx
new2020yy said:
Thank you very much for the detailed response.
You're right, but I didn't know what details could help and I didn't want to just throw in details. I have now downloaded CPU-Z and ADIA64. Can you please say what details are relevant?
About CANBUS - I really have. And with me the volume setting is regulated by him. But I have no idea how to tell if it's set up correctly. I just connected the unit as it came. And right I mean the wheel that is on the steering wheel and the unit itself.
In each case, I'll also include a link to the unit so you can see what it is.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000059343717.html?spm=a2g16.12010612.8148356.2.585e6777jdzSLx
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CPU-Z and ADIA64 don't help here. They are "real" Android apps and know nothing about CANbus systems.
Sorry, but you really need to contact your supplier and ask which CANbus protocol(s) should be selected for your specific car.
For my (previous) unit and my Skoda, there was an xyz_HIGH and xyz_LOW protocol depending on the car. The HIGH protocol increased volume really fast. The LOW more slowly. This all depending on the components in the car.
I have no idea which settings your unit uses, but I have the idea that it is set to xyz_LOW, where it actually should be the HIGH protocol.
(where xyz can be any name your manufacturer has given it, and HIGH/LOW can just as wel be FAST/SLOW or anything else)
Thank you for your comment.
1. My intent of the apps to understand the system model
2. Thanks for the information. I will now search the settings for the letters XYZ
3. I can search for the model myself (even help me know a sample example to know what it looks like there is a lot of information). The seller simply does not understand and communication with him is not always good in terms of this kind. The seller is excellent, responds to everything and quickly but sometimes things like that are difficult for us to communicate.
Edit - I searched for XYZ I don't have such a function.
new2020yy said:
Thank you for your comment.
1. My intent of the apps to understand the system model
2. Thanks for the information. I will now search the settings for the letters XYZ
3. I can search for the model myself (even help me know a sample example to know what it looks like there is a lot of information). The seller simply does not understand and communication with him is not always good in terms of this kind. The seller is excellent, responds to everything and quickly but sometimes things like that are difficult for us to communicate.
Edit - I searched for XYZ I don't have such a function.
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No, it is definitely not called xyz. I said: "where xyz can be any name your manufacturer has given it"
Search on youtube for "joying canbus setting". Joying is a brand but has many systems for VW/Skoda/Seat. You will find movies for several brands. Maybe that will give you an idea.
surfer63 said:
No, it is definitely not called xyz. I said: "where xyz can be any name your manufacturer has given it"
Search on youtube for "joying canbus setting". Joying is a brand but has many systems for VW/Skoda/Seat. You will find movies for several brands. Maybe that will give you an idea.
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thanks for the reply. I'll check what you said.
By the way, I tried to upload pictures to the site but somehow I couldn't ..
If you want to help me I can send pictures of the menu in any other way in private. (You are the only one who really got the closest to my point and came to this function so you have a great advantage) And if anyone else wants to try to help here or in a private message I would be very happy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SltcuBqMVqA
I have an operating system just like there is in the video
Can I install an operating system like JOYING?
I have android head unit. Do you think I can upgrade to the higher version ?
Model k2001N
I have a new Android head unit but once I installed it I am getting no sound. Investigating the problem I found that the Amp control wire was not going high (12v) and therefore there is no sound as the amps aren't activated.
I believe this is a software problem since the Amp control pin is not completely open. Also I noticed that the sound control page is not complete as there is not any controls for balance or fade.
I do not have any tech support for this item but need to find a way to fix the software load.
The unit is a 7089C unit running Android 8.1, installed in a C6 Corvette.
Software load:
Android: YT9213A_00009_V001_20191126
XY Auto: 3.1
Gerbil
Would installing a different launcher possible solve this problem?
No, the MCU is what controls that function. An MCU update could fix the problem if it is a software issue. I don't know how you tested the control pin but short of hooking up an oscilloscope to it you can't really tell what is on it. It could be a resistive or broken solder joint that kills the output. MTC units have a setting to use factory amp maybe yours has something like that.
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No, the MCU is what controls that function. An MCU update could fix the problem if it is a software issue. I don't know how you tested the control pin but short of hooking up an oscilloscope to it you can't really tell what is on it. It could be a resistive or broken solder joint that kills the output. MTC units have a setting to use factory amp maybe yours has something like that.
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Thank you for the response.
I just read the output of the pin with a meter. It did not read zero but did not register over 1vdc though. Because there was a little something there I assume the connections are complete in the head unit but I suppose I could be reading into the radio harness adapter unit. I have not thought of trying to see what I would see with the scope.
My next step to try is to put a 12vdc on the amp control line to see if the head unit is actually putting out sound. I am also going to see if the unit can be returned for replacement.
I've never had this happen like this before.
Hello everyone,
I have a Dasaita PX5 and Android 8.0 for my Jeep Compass 2018. Problem is that (1) steering wheel controls have stopped working. Used to work for a while when the unit was first installed then one day just ceased to function. And (2) reverse camera video is blinking after driving for around 20-30 mins (doesn’t blink when engine is on and not running)
I've updated both the MCU (V3.45) and system update (20190731) to the latest ones in hopes of fixing it. I also went to factory settings and tried all canbus that had "Jeep" on it and selected the right model of the car but SWC still not working including the controls at the back of the steering wheel. The only thing that's working is the right side of the steering wheel which is the cruise control function.
I had an auto electrician check it and said “there's no problem with electrical side“ and now he's saying maybe the switches are broken (which I doubt) cos when the car battery was changed not long ago (SWC already not working this time), SWC came back to life but only for short period of time.
Please help me figure this out. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
fshwgg3xg22g said:
Hello everyone,
I have a Dasaita PX5 and Android 8.0 for my Jeep Compass 2018. Problem is that (1) steering wheel controls have stopped working. Used to work for a while when the unit was first installed then one day just ceased to function.
And (2) reverse camera video is blinking after driving for around 20-30 mins (doesn’t blink when engine is on and not running)
I've updated both the MCU (V3.45) and system update (20190731) to the latest ones in hopes of fixing it. I also went to factory settings and tried all canbus that had "Jeep" on it and selected the right model of the car but SWC still not working including the controls at the back of the steering wheel. The only thing that's working is the right side of the steering wheel which is the cruise control function.
I had an auto electrician check it and said “there's no problem with electrical side“ and now he's saying maybe the switches are broken (which I doubt) cos when the car battery was changed not long ago (SWC already not working this time), SWC came back to life but only for short period of time.
Please help me figure this out. Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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I put back the factory unit back in (factory unit worked without issues) but the steering wheel buttons still didn't work. Does this mean that the problem lies in the steering wheel buttons and not in the CANbus decoder?
Hi all,
I posted this in the Joying forum but have had no success so figured I'd try my luck here too.
I just installed a Joying JY-VQ131N4GN Android 10 unit with newest firmware shipped into my '14 VW Passat with Fender Audio. Here are some of the issues I am running into and hope other people that may have experienced/solved these problems can help. I purchased the Can bus option for my vehicle and it was supposed to be plug and play.
1. Rear speaker output is very low for all output types (radio, android auto, BT audio, etc.). When fader setting is moved all the way to the rear, I get no sound at all from the rears. I don't know if this is due to the headunit or the Fender DSP located in the car's amp. I messed with the volume balance in the factory menu but I didnt notice any difference. I ordered a 12v bench tester and will test the speaker outs directly from the headunit soon.
2. The Joying supplied BT Music app/shortcut sends you to the BT phone app when used in a launcher. Sometimes it does this even when using the native launcher/UI.
3. I am unable to set custom steering wheel control buttons within the unit. It says to "hold down button to learn" or something like that but when I hit (and hold) any button it just does what the original button normally does (I am trying to change the phone button on the steering wheel to play/pause).
4. Hand brake sensor is backwards, when the handbrake is off, the headunit says it is activated and vice versa.
5. The unit won't switch from Celsius to Fahrenheit even after changing it in the setting menu. However, car launcher pro does allow switching to Fahrenheit but the top of the screen still reads Celsius regardless.
Chief Underverse said:
Hi all,
I posted this in the Joying forum but have had no success so figured I'd try my luck here too.
I just installed a Joying JY-VQ131N4GN Android 10 unit with newest firmware shipped into my '14 VW Passat with Fender Audio. Here are some of the issues I am running into and hope other people that may have experienced/solved these problems can help. I purchased the Can bus option for my vehicle and it was supposed to be plug and play.
1. Rear speaker output is very low for all output types (radio, android auto, BT audio, etc.). When fader setting is moved all the way to the rear, I get no sound at all from the rears. I don't know if this is due to the headunit or the Fender DSP located in the car's amp. I messed with the volume balance in the factory menu but I didnt notice any difference. I ordered a 12v bench tester and will test the speaker outs directly from the headunit soon.
2. The Joying supplied BT Music app/shortcut sends you to the BT phone app when used in a launcher. Sometimes it does this even when using the native launcher/UI.
3. I am unable to set custom steering wheel control buttons within the unit. It says to "hold down button to learn" or something like that but when I hit (and hold) any button it just does what the original button normally does (I am trying to change the phone button on the steering wheel to play/pause).
4. Hand brake sensor is backwards, when the handbrake is off, the headunit says it is activated and vice versa.
5. The unit won't switch from Celsius to Fahrenheit even after changing it in the setting menu. However, car launcher pro does allow switching to Fahrenheit but the top of the screen still reads Celsius regardless.
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Looking to get this exact head unit. Did you ever overcome these issues?