Is the TicWatch C2 Plus still worth it? - Other SmartWatches

Hi!
I'm new to smartwatches. And I don't have a large budget.
Used TicWatches go for around £50 on ebay and I am confident I can replace the battery when it needs it.
Is it still worth it to get one of these? Will the wear OS be out of date any time soon?
Mainly I'm just looking for one with NFC payment capabilities.
Thanks!
EDIT: Or do you guys think the E3 is a better choice? I prefer the look of the C2 plus but E3 is better hardware wise.

I ended spending a bit more for a Pro 3 GPS. I think it's worth the extra for the latest firmware, better battery life, dual screen, etc

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Should I buy an LG G2?

Hello, my Nexus 5 was just damaged beyond repair, and Im in need for a new phone, Im pretty tight on my budget, I considered the new Moto G or the alcatel One Touch Idol 3, but then I stumbled upon this LG G2 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/LG-G2-Factory...?ie=UTF8&qid=1439090546&sr=8-3&keywords=lg+g2, its only 225$ and it has far better specs than does mid rangers I just mentioned, it is also very similar to my old Nexus 5, and altho the software is a piece of crap (no ofense if you like it) imho and updates are lacking, I asume I can root it and put cm12.1 or some other up-to-date ROM and be happy with it like a Nexus 5 with bigger battery, better screen and better camera, so what do you think? is this a good decision? does the G2 have good dev support ROMwise?
Yes, G2 is the best deal and still have great specs.
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LRC1710 said:
Hello, my Nexus 5 was just damaged beyond repair, and Im in need for a new phone, Im pretty tight on my budget, I considered the new Moto G or the alcatel One Touch Idol 3, but then I stumbled upon this LG G2 on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/LG-G2-Factory...?ie=UTF8&qid=1439090546&sr=8-3&keywords=lg+g2, its only 225$ and it has far better specs than does mid rangers I just mentioned, it is also very similar to my old Nexus 5, and altho the software is a piece of crap (no ofense if you like it) imho and updates are lacking, I asume I can root it and put cm12.1 or some other up-to-date ROM and be happy with it like a Nexus 5 with bigger battery, better screen and better camera, so what do you think? is this a good decision? does the G2 have good dev support ROMwise?
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Yes, it is defiantly a good choice. I bet f you look around on craigslist and or swappa you can find it for cheaper. This phone has amazing battery life, a strong processor for its age, and a decent but large screen. Its not amoled or anything but it does the job.
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I also made a similar switch from sgs3, 1 month back. IMO
Good:
+ Battery
+ Community support plenty of cm/aosp roms available 5.1.1. Although I haven't tried anyone yet, as LG based roms are quite good
+ Rear Camera
+ Screen
Bad:
- GPS: This phone has gps issues. Although there are fixes, but its hardware mod and YMMV. If you don't have dedicated gps device in your car, avoid it
- Front camera: Newer phones have better selfie camera
- 4g support: Many variants, each supporting different lte bands, so check compatibility with operator before buying
If you can afford, better buy OnePlus one 64gb, i think its price will be further reduced with launch of oneplus two.

How much bloatware is there is the G2?

Hi guys! I was planning to buy a G2 (actually I am stuck between the G2 and the Droid Maxx!) but I wanted to know how much bloatware there is in the G2 the first time it is run? For example in comparison with Samsung phones. To have a measure how much bloatware is too much bloatware for me, I think Samsung phones have too much of them. How many services and apps are going to be run when I turn the phone on for the first time? If somebody posts a snapshot of the apps and services that are running on the phone I would really appreciate it.
Definitely less than on Samsung but still, LG interface is veery bulky and lovers of stock Android will not be satisfied.
DROID Maxx is not a good choice because of veery old Snapdragon S4.
Michalko5896 said:
Definitely less than on Samsung but still, LG interface is veery bulky and lovers of stock Android will not be satisfied.
DROID Maxx is not a good choice because of veery old Snapdragon S4.
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Thanks! Can you explain why you call it bulky? Is it because it is different than stock android or it is because it gets slow and laggy in particular times? Does it ever get sluggish (for example after installing apps or normal usage for a while)?
P.S. You are right, the Droid Maxx has lower specs and lower benchmark. But my wife has a Moto X (which is pretty similar in CPU, RAM and such to the Droid Maxx) and it is really smooth. You never feel any lag and it is really fast. I know that Motorola has made some optimizations to make the device faster, and the near-stock android also has some share in this.
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Thanks! Can you explain why you call it bulky? Is it because it is different than stock android or it is because it gets slow and laggy in particular times? Does it ever get sluggish (for example after installing apps or normal usage for a while)?
P.S. You are right, the Droid Maxx has lower specs and lower benchmark. But my wife has a Moto X (which is pretty similar in CPU, RAM and such to the Droid Maxx) and it is really smooth. You never feel any lag and it is really fast. I know that Motorola has made some optimizations to make the device faster, and the near-stock android also has some share in this.
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Because LG UI has tons of features. G2 is not slow phone, not at all. It is very fast. But if you are looking for 100% lag free experience, G2 might not be best choice. What about new Moto X? Or 1+1?
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Because LG UI has tons of features. G2 is not slow phone, not at all. It is very fast. But if you are looking for 100% lag free experience, G2 might not be best choice. What about new Moto X? Or 1+1?
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I think I will be fine with the features as long as they don't stay in the way. Do they? Frankly, the only reasons I am considering the G2 are price (it is 2 years old flagship), the battery and the camera. I really don't like the tweaks they made in the OS, and for that I am open to any suggestions that somehow meet my three above interests.
P.S. One super annoying feature for me is the recent apps button which is simulated by long pressing home! I always hated this in Samsung phones and now it is every where!
P.S. 2. I have heard many good things about 1+1, but it is at least $400 CAD and I'd rather stay with a big name. About the new X, it is also a very good phone but my problem is the price. I cannot afford it right now. I am looking for a flagship device that is 2 years old since the price is really dropped. Motorola cameras are really not impressive though. At least the Maxx compensate for it with the huge battery which the X lacks.
Between the droid maxx and G2, I would go G2 - better 5.2" 1080p screen, smaller bezels, faster processor, better camera, no annoying soft-touch buttons...
I actually like the G2 gui with the added features and customization. A lot of it can be customized to be more vanilla. I don't care for the extra lg apps they throw in tho - luckily most can be disabled. After disabling the apps/bloat I don't use, the number of startup apps is basically the same as any motorola. I don't notice any lag and typically get 5-6 hours of sot in 50-60 hours between charging depending on how I use it - so it's hard to complain. While it may be a little heavy depending on how you configure it, it's nowhere near as bad as any garbage samsung - remember, friends don't let friends buy samsung...
With that said, there are better phones out now with with a stock android experience, Nexus 5x and 2014 moto x come to mind. But if you can get the G2 for cheap, I don't think you can do better.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I was planning to buy the G2 from ebay. By the way, is it a good idea?! There are several sellers that sell it. It is new and they offer return policy and ebay also offers money back guarantee. Is it pretty safe to buy from them? It is listed at around 210 CAD.
About other options, I seriously thought about the Moto X 2014, it has worse camera (compared to the G2), worse battery and screen. On the other hand it is smoother, and has near stock Android. It is above 300 CAD in ebay and telus offers it for 450 CAD! Nexus 5x is even more expensive right now.
Anyways, it is good news that many of the bloatware can be disabled
mmutoo said:
Thanks for sharing your experience! I was planning to buy the G2 from ebay. By the way, is it a good idea?! There are several sellers that sell it. It is new and they offer return policy and ebay also offers money back guarantee. Is it pretty safe to buy from them? It is listed at around 210 CAD.
About other options, I seriously thought about the Moto X 2014, it has worse camera (compared to the G2), worse battery and screen. On the other hand it is smoother, and has near stock Android. It is above 300 CAD in ebay and telus offers it for 450 CAD! Nexus 5x is even more expensive right now.
Anyways, it is good news that many of the bloatware can be disabled
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I don't particularly like buying phones on ebay, but If the seller is reputable and offers hassle-free returns, I don't see a risk in buying it. Quickly looking it up tho, there is only one seller that is selling it specifically as "new" at the $160/210CAD price. They are in Hawaii - I would probably pass on that one. The other sellers at that price are listing it as "new other" and "manufacturer refurbished" which really means used. I would probably get one of the sightly more expensive ones from a good seller so as to be sure that it's actually new and that it's located on the same continent.
Fyi, the 2014 moto x is a superior phone in most respects. The screen is 5.2" 1080p amoled so it's better, not worse. Both of the cameras are good but not the best, and realistically you won't notice the difference between the two. While the rated battery capacity is lower, real world performance is comparable. It has a metal midframe and soft-touch back cover(don't get the leather since it wears quickly) and feels a lot more solid and therefore more premium. It has dual front facing speakers and better button placement. The only downside is that it's a few mm bigger in all dimensions and it's more expensive. Is it worth ~$100 more? idk
You are probably checking ebay.com. I see many options in ebay.ca and the sellers have %99+ positive feedback! It is trending now at around 215 CAD. About the X, if the AMOLED is saturated as it is in the 2013 model, I really think the LCD on the G2 is probably better. The camera on the G2 has OIS and I expected it to have better performance noticeably. Have you ever had the chance to compare them? Honestly I love Motorola devices and as you said they look more solid and premium. My only problem with the 2014 X was burn-in problem with the AMOLED display and the camera. Not even the battery.
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You are probably checking ebay.com. I see many options in ebay.ca and the sellers have %99+ positive feedback! It is trending now at around 215 CAD. About the X, if the AMOLED is saturated as it is in the 2013 model, I really think the LCD on the G2 is probably better. The camera on the G2 has OIS and I expected it to have better performance noticeably. Have you ever had the chance to compare them? Honestly I love Motorola devices and as you said they look more solid and premium. My only problem with the 2014 X was burn-in problem with the AMOLED display and the camera. Not even the battery.
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be careful some sellers sell the g2 as d802 and the inside motherboard could be a d800 and if you flash wrong file it will brick the phone.. best thing is to open the phone and check the motherboard model to make sure what variant you have..
Ok! Thanks. I will definitely check, although I will probably not end up flashing any rom on it.
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Ok! Thanks. I will definitely check, although I will probably not end up flashing any rom on it.
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ok then whats the point in beign in xda
none othe than to flash roms LOL
just playing with you
I am here cause everybody is very nice and helpful and reply to my questions really quickly. Thanks everybody!

Is this phone worth an upgrade?

Hi guys, I've been really interested in going to this phone, based upon price, specs, and OEM (Plus it'll go well with my Moto 360). Right now I have a Zenfone 2, 4 GB RAM model, and I was wondering if you guys think this phone merits the upgrade?
I'm rather sick of Asus, lack of updates, lollipop 5.0 issues, and incompatibilities with the X86 processor, but I don't want to "upgrade" to something that's not worth it.
Anyone make this jump from a Zenfone? Any unbiased thoughts on this?
Thanks,
Joe
Before I bought my Moto X Pure I was looking very hard at the Zenfone 2. The Zenfone seems like a lot of phone for the money. However, the reviews point out a lot of the things you flag like buggy Asus interface, lots of bloat, and x86 issues in an ARM world.
I got some hands on time with both of them a few months back, and I couldn't have bought a Zenfone after using the MXP. The MXP just felt a little smoother, and I'm sold on the AOSP look and feel over OEM skins. Stock on the Moto looks just like Slim or other close to AOSP custom roms on my old phone. The thing was really striking though was the screen. Even on its brightest setting the Zenfone just didn't look near as vivid or good as the MXP.
I'm not entirely certain it warrants an upgrade. If I were in your shoes I might consider waiting to see what 2016 brings. However, just doing a side by side comparison I was willing to fork over an extra $150 for 32gb less storage and 1gb less RAM because the MXP just struck me as the better overall package.

Best phone for the money?

I am in the US so everything I say is in US dollars, US versions, etc.
I purchased the Motorola X Pure as soon as it came out and was happy with it but lately it has had a lot of issues particularly with GPS. It works fine 90% of the time but that 10% of the time it says "Searching for GPS" while navigating and have caused me lots of problems with missing turns, etc while traveling out of town. Also it is very laggy switching between apps and even just surfing the web. I don't really play games...my average day of use consists of using Chrome to surf the web, using Google Maps for navigation (I use it even when I know where I am going because it notifies of traffic and accidents and advises the best route considering those), and watch videos on YouTube, Netflix, or Hulu. I also take a lot of pictures but not every day but a lot...anybody out there with kids knows you take way more pictures than you need, lol.
Since it was a mid-level phone at release and is a couple years old now I have been looking to replace it. My first thought was the Moto G5 Plus since I have Amazon Prime and can get the higher end model for only $240.
Is there a better phone available (based on my needs mentioned above) under $300? What about under $400? I can MAYBE stretch my budget to $400 but no more and that has to include tax, etc.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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I am in the US so everything I say is in US dollars, US versions, etc.
I purchased the Motorola X Pure as soon as it came out and was happy with it but lately it has had a lot of issues particularly with GPS. It works fine 90% of the time but that 10% of the time it says "Searching for GPS" while navigating and have caused me lots of problems with missing turns, etc while traveling out of town. Also it is very laggy switching between apps and even just surfing the web. I don't really play games...my average day of use consists of using Chrome to surf the web, using Google Maps for navigation (I use it even when I know where I am going because it notifies of traffic and accidents and advises the best route considering those), and watch videos on YouTube, Netflix, or Hulu. I also take a lot of pictures but not every day but a lot...anybody out there with kids knows you take way more pictures than you need, lol.
Since it was a mid-level phone at release and is a couple years old now I have been looking to replace it. My first thought was the Moto G5 Plus since I have Amazon Prime and can get the higher end model for only $240.
Is there a better phone available (based on my needs mentioned above) under $300? What about under $400? I can MAYBE stretch my budget to $400 but no more and that has to include tax, etc.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions!
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I picked up this phone today and only gripe so far coming from the S7 Edge is camera is pretty bad... Not sure if it's enough to push me back to S7 but I'm​ definitely considering it. Besides the camera I'm not sure what else you'd possibly want at this price point.
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Moto z play are about $300 on Swappa. Much better battery life, mod compatible, more premium feeling, bigger AMOLED screen, quite a few ROMs, etc. I love my Z Play!
Rather have the Moto g5 over play. The mods are imho worthless. With mods you might as well spend the money on a s8 or s7
Looks like the ASUS Zenfone 3 is about the same price as the Moto G5 Plus, how do those compare?
903tex said:
Rather have the Moto g5 over play. The mods are imho worthless. With mods you might as well spend the money on a s8 or s7
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My guess is that the AMOLED and bigger battery of Z Play makes the SOT somewhat better. Just because the mods are worthless doesn't mean the device is worse, or that you are committed to buy some mod. Probably one should decide if you prefer 5.2 or 5.5 inch display, and find out if you need dual SIM or longer lasting battery is more important. Also I like the USB-C-plug that you can't put in the wrong way - you know USB is the only plug where you have only two directions, but always need three tries until you get it right
For someone who had a X Pure I'm quite sure Touchwiz is a no-go (for me it is, since I had a Galaxy S3 I won't buy a Samsung anymore), so S7 or S8 are pointless.
Buy oneplus 3t
This is the biggest of an Android phone I'm willing to get. I am eyeing the Xperia X Compact because I want a small phone. If This had NFC for the US version I would have bought it right away, since it doesn't I will have to pass.
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Looks like the ASUS Zenfone 3 is about the same price as the Moto G5 Plus, how do those compare?
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I wouldn't use Asus even if I was stranded on top of Mt. Everest! Zf2 burn me with them cause they never update their phones! Zf3 still on 6.0, so is the zf2. So much bloat you can't uninstall with them. Only plus is I think the top of the line zf3 has the 820? Also if you care about ROMs, then I don't think the zf3 has a lot of that going on now. I have a strong feeling the g5 will be packed with roms in no time
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Buy oneplus 3t
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I like the OnePlus 3T...but my budget is $300 (can bend enough to be $300 plus tax, shipping, etc but not more than that)
What would be your recommendation within that range? Is there a better phone within that range than the G5 Plus?
Also, I am really only interested in phones with warranty so I don't want to buy a used one on swappa, etc.
Thanks for all the feedback!
chmcke01 said:
I like the OnePlus 3T...but my budget is $300 (can bend enough to be $300 plus tax, shipping, etc but not more than that)
What would be your recommendation within that range? Is there a better phone within that range than the G5 Plus?
Also, I am really only interested in phones with warranty so I don't want to buy a used one on swappa, etc.
Thanks for all the feedback!
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I would suggest you to go for it buddy. You'll definitely not gonna mind anything. I don't see any other phone in this price range better than this. Development will be as good as previous generation I think. So I think you should go for it.
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I like the OnePlus 3T...but my budget is $300 (can bend enough to be $300 plus tax, shipping, etc but not more than that)
What would be your recommendation within that range? Is there a better phone within that range than the G5 Plus?
Also, I am really only interested in phones with warranty so I don't want to buy a used one on swappa, etc.
Thanks for all the feedback!
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I'm very impressed with the g5 plus 64gb version. I had a op3, note 5, s7, s7edge. The features on this make it as good or better than those flagships. Camera and LCD vs amoled are the only drawbacks. Love Moto display and all the gestures, plus killer feature for me is gesture navigation on fingerprint reader, is the bomb! Battery life is stellar!
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I wouldn't use Asus even if I was stranded on top of Mt. Everest! Zf2 burn me with them cause they never update their phones!
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I had three ZF2s. Phantom touch, 1/3 of the screen went black, and then random hangs in a year and a half.
The first two were under warranty, requiring me to send the phone in, which took like a week and a half.
Total crap.
This phone has been voted best budget phone for the money on many different sites. I guess that could change every month a new phone is released though
I need to get a new phone since my lg G4 died... I find that the OS on Motorola is way better and I have had Samsungs and LG.
I will recommend it, besides any cel will eventually die. So imho I will no longer spend tons of useless money just to be fancy with the mobile phone.
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I took advantage of the free $15 offer when you buy a $75 gift card to help pay for my Moto G5 Plus 64GB from Amazon.com (I mention this since you are in the USA). I also got 5% off by using the Amazon.com credit card (5% back in Amazon.com "points"), and, I had about $112 in "gift card" credit. I figured since I had made my OnePlus One last for more than three years, and I was able to talk customer service into giving me $12 off the $299 price, I couldn't say no to getting a new phone any longer. I might prefer a 5.5" screen over 5.2" but I'm not sure, I figured it'd be nice to try, see how it feels to have a slightly smaller phone in my pocket, and, maybe ever so slightly easier to use it one handed? I find that I often use my phone one-handed and I can't quite reach sometimes.
On the plus side, I'm really excited about the lower megapixel camera with it's fairly large sensor and wide aperture lens at F/1.7 - I know some people have complained about the camera on this phone, but I expect to get great results regardless - I don't know why it's not working well for them?
The only thing that really upsets me about the Moto G5 Plus is the Micro USB charging port instead of the new standard USB C port. I may have to see about doing some kind of wireless charging mod to my phone because I'm really getting tired of Micro USB.
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I don't understand why I see a few users saying the camera is bad - website reviews are liking the camera, and, it is the same chip as the "high end" Galaxy S7 cameras. Is the camera APP really that bad? Hopefully any issues will be addressed by either A) update or B) 3rd party camera APP/tweaks/mods.
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Moto z play are about $300 on Swappa. Much better battery life, mod compatible, more premium feeling, bigger AMOLED screen, quite a few ROMs, etc. I love my Z Play!
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Actually, what I've red from people that have had the Z and now moved to the G5 Plus is that the G5 Plus has better battery life, presumably because the newer 625 CPU is more efficient.
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Actually, what I've red from people that have had the Z and now moved to the G5 Plus is that the G5 Plus has better battery life, presumably because the newer 625 CPU is more efficient.
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What do you think which chipset is being used in the Moto Z Play?
(Hint: Same!)
Think you are talking about Moto Z, not Moto Z Play.

Is the OnePlus 8 Pro worth getting in 2021?

Hi everyone,
I've recently was given £500 Amazon giftcard and I was thinking if I should upgrade from my OP6T or not. I've been looking on what I should get like a treat for myself and for phones it seems like the 8 pro is a good deal. I could literally get a OP8 Pro (used like new with original packaging) from Amazon warehouse. I'm not sure how's the custom ROM situation for the 8 Pro, but I do know that the OP9 Pro is riddled with heating and battery life issues (def not worth the price). I could literally get the 8 pro for free with a case + tpu screen protector and some cash left. Basically a free OP8 Pro?!
I've been planning to buy it since Tuesday, but held off as I just couldn't justify the purchase. I could just buy it and return it, but I just don't need it and will probs return it anyways. My OP6T is solid, replaced the battery last year, getting at least 4hrs 20mins of SoT and running CrDroid ROM which still supports my old OP3?! I got October SP as well on A11. The 8 pro is supported as well! Is this upgrade worth it and needed?
From current leaks the OP10 Pro seems to be another boring punch hole device as OEMs aren't ready to release flagships with UDC and even the UDC tech won't be as good as of next year if it even came out next year. A device with UDC that's usable will probs be out like 2023 or 2024 which I'm not waiting that long for. Itching for new tech I guess and support will probs be dropped for my OP6T by then.
The OP8 Pro is a good device with some weird display issues reported by users online. Black crush, display getting green, UIelements staying on the display. Probs not as bad as the OP9 Pro especially when I'm getting it for free lol. I'm just stuck and any help will be great.
Depend on how much you will buy it.
My unit manufactured since mid 2020.
It has Blackcrush , Banding , minimal green tint.
But those screen issues are not major for me.
Let's wait the initial review of Snapdragon next Flagship SoC 898
expect debut with Xiaomi 12 later this year.
Those might give you an idea how OP10 Pro SoC will perform.
I think 9 RT improve heat management in hardware for 888 not sure,
If OP10Pro will improve that further more.
ps000000 said:
Depend on how much you will buy it.
My unit manufactured since mid 2020.
It has Blackcrush , Banding , minimal green tint.
But those screen issues are not major for me.
Let's wait the initial review of Snapdragon next Flagship SoC 898
expect debut with Xiaomi 12 later this year.
Those might give you an idea how OP10 Pro SoC will perform.
I think 9 RT improve heat management in hardware for 888 not sure,
If OP10Pro will improve that further more.
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I already said how much it is. "I could literally get the 8 pro for free with a case + tpu screen protector and some cash left. Basically a free OP8 Pro?!" Tbh I don't really care about SoCs tbh they are just like cameras for phones, you'll expect to get a new + improved one when a brand new phone comes out each year. The SD 845 is fine for me. It's just the missing features my 6T doesn't have and maybe battery life. How's the battery life for the OP8 Pro now? Are u still on OOS or are u running a custom ROM? @ps000000
I often switch ROMs, as flashaholic person test for few hours.
But mostly back to stock because my workplace app only run well on stock.
Battery life look okay after 1.5 years.
Just my 1 person experience, you may consider read another site like oneplus forum on reddit , local oneplus facebook group etc.
(English is not my 1st language I might not good explain or good reading well.)
Great phone
Superb development here on XDA
Great community too which always helps
Price should be competitive now too
Performance is spot on, it'll run Wii games to give you an idea of the strength of the 865
Battery is great
Camera has served me well, plus if you want the infrared see through things camera, the 8 pro is the only place you'll get it (and still can on OOS)
That being said.. If it were me I'd see what the new Pixel has to offer (Tizen chip) it's their first phone with this chip, will it be any good? Is it Google's answer to apples M1?
I'd wait and see, if it is then get that, if not then OnePlus 10 Pro (if it will even be called that)

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