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[Q] Which phone do you recommend me to upgrade to from a N4?

I have had a nexus 4 for almost 2 years and I like it. Even so it has its negative points, especially after all this time. It's not as responsive as it used to be and battery life, which wasn't stellar to begin with, has decayed a lot. With this in mind I have been searching for a good phone to replace it. I was waiting for the Nexus 6 to come out but when it was officially announced that screen size and the price scared me away.
After the announcement I have been searching and comparing a bunch of phones. I was interested on the OnePlus One but the buying process is a pain in the ass. I checked the S5 but then I remembered it had the infamous Touchwiz which I had already (even though in an earlier incarnation) on a Galaxy Ace I had before the N4 and there was also the fact that it is expensive as hell on my carrier. I also checked the HTC One M8 but the camera resolution seems horrible. I have checked the Sony Xperia line but it is as expensive as the S5 in my carrier and also pretty expensive on sites like Amazon. At last I have been comparing between a Nexus 5 and a LG G3. I know they have almost a year between them but I like the fact that the Nexus 5 is cheap and receives fast updates, although I have heard battery life was not improved very much. And, on the G3's side, it is newer, has better hardware and supposedly has a good battery life(I have heard mixed views on this as some say battery is good while others say it is horrible).
So, to sum it up, I would like to know your opinions and would also like to know if you happen to know some other options I haven't considered.
Thanks and sorry for the long post and if this wasn't the right forum to ask this.

vik-sama said:
So, to sum it up, I would like to know your opinions and would also like to know if you happen to know some other options I haven't considered.
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Look at an LG G2. $400 for a new one, under $300 for a used one in good/mint condition. Beefy 3000mAh battery, very competent hardware, big screen in a not-so-big body, and a good amount of development if you want to try different ROMs/kernels. As cheap, or even cheaper, than a Nexus 5, but with a much bigger battery and better camera. With the G3 out, prices have plummeted on the G2, and have made it a veritable bargain.
The G3 is a hell of a phone. The QHD screen might drain the battery a bit more, but on this phone the battery is replaceable, so just buy a spare if you're worried about that. Not much development yet, but if you buy the T-Mobile version or one with an unlocked bootloader it's easy to root and modify with Xposed, which gives you plenty of options to tweak it to your satisfaction.
Regarding the HTC One's camera - it's not great, but it's not bad either. If all you're wanting to do is post pics to Facebook or internet forums, it's perfectly fine, since pictures will be reduced anyway. Where it suffers is in cropped detailed pics, and stuff like sweeping vistas and anything far away. That aside, the One is an awesome device.

My personal choice from what's available right now would definitely be the HTC One M8. If you don't care a huge deal about the camera then there are very few flaws to it at all. The camera on the M8 will definitely be worse in normal light than most other flagships but the pictures it takes are still far better than those from the N4 and in low light the camera performs better than most, not to mention the fact that it has good autofocus and a myriad of extra features which you may or may not find useful but they're still nice to have. Battery life is excellent, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, Sense brings extra features and (arguably) a nicer design than AOSP whilst retaining excellent performance and the phone is just generally far nicer to use than anything else I've tried.

Look for the Huawei Honor 6.
300$, full LTE, 16GB upgradable with microSD, beautiful 5" HD screen... I'm gonna buy this phone in the next week for replacement of my N4.

I went from a Nexus 4 to a HTC One M8 and hated it, hence why I'm back with my Nexus 4. That said, I'm definitely in the minority.
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[Q] Is still a good buy?

Hello guys! I just want to ask you G2 users if this phone is still a good buy? I'm planning to upgrade my phone by next year.
I'm still using my LG Optimus Black and it has been my companion for more than 4yrs if I'm not mistaken. The G2's price here has dropped significantly so I'm thinking of getting one
Feedback will be greatly appreciated. Thank you guys!

I think it is. It's a great piece of hardware with excellent developement, great display and performance is on par with newer phones. There's no wear and tear on the buttons after a year of using it, they still feel solid. It's also getting the G3 UI in an update soon.
I don't know how long LG supports their devices with updates though, maybe you'll be a better judge of that after having one for so long.

Thank you but what about its performance? i also have a friend who owns one but his lags a lot. i dont know if it's because he's just stupid or it's the device itself?
Software updates don't bother me much since I have had good experience with LG's support on the OB. It was launched with 2.2 froyo, got 2.3 gingerbread and they ended support on 4.0.4 which is kinda respectable since it got through 2 major updates and we got a stable kitkat rom and LG's build quality is also commendable.

JB laggs a lot tbh. KK is good but you will see imrovements if you root it and flash a custom rom. Honestly, both battery and performance-wise.
If you get a good price on it, then go for it. Root it right away lol you can always return to stock as it if it was rooted
Good thing you would enter the G2 world just like I did: with stable G3 ROMs ready to go
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If you aren't one of those who demand the latest and greatest, the G2 is pretty much one of the best picks for money right now. The screen and CPU is on par with most newer phones (Nexus 6, G3 and Note 4 aside) and it can be acquired for a very little price. It has been confirmed to get Lollipop and that's most likely the last update this phone will get
But it's super fast, has a good battery and it just WORKS. I still say that if I had to replace my phone, I would still get myself a G2 because there's no other phone out there that is that much better.

This device currently, with maybe Nexus 5, has best price/quality ratio. For not too much money, you will get hardware that is still quite powerful (S800, 2GB of RAM, 3000 Mah battery etc.).
Also, considering that you had LG Optimus Black, the LG G2 will be great leap forward in terms of quality and performance.
Hope this helped a bit OP. :highfive:

Thank you for all your input guys! This will surely help with my decision. But what do you think about the Nexus 5? It's just 5-10 dollars more expensive than the G2 here, which one will you go with?

The Nexus 5 has a brighter screen if that's something that really matters.
Other than that and ROM support, I'd definitely choose the bigger display, better camera and battery, and the other benefits of the G2.
I'd choose the G2 over most, perhaps all phones out atm. Maybe not the Xperia Z3, just because of really similar specs but withthe addition of waterproofing.
Samsung phones have the horrible AMOLED displays, HTC is too big for its screen, and the G3 has worse battery life and barely any performance difference. Not miles better camera and I prefer the G2 display.
The G2 is the best phone to buy

I have a G2 and OPO. OPO is a better choice.... same price almost.

I have had my G2 for just over a year. I would agree with others it is still a top notch phone for the money. But beware i have had to replace the usb/ headphone board. And now my screen has the dead spot towards the top, so it will need replaced soon also. I dont know if i just got a bad phone or if the quality is just sub par.
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Are you, LG G2 owners, upgrading to the LG G4?

Hello XDA.
This is a thing that has puzzled me a bit, so first I'll present my own point of view and then I'd really like to hear what you guys think.
You can see pictures of the G4 here http://www.phonearena.com/news/LG-G4-leaks-in-all-of-its-glory_id68166
My G2 has served me really well, and honestly it doesn't have to be replaced. It's still very fast and gets the job done. However, after 1 ½ year it gets old - it has never been the most interesting phone design-wise and with the new phones having a much more attractive design you get tempted. Add to that, that the battery isn't what it used to be either. What made me buy it back then, was it's absolutely fantastic internals at an affordable price. And I don't regret purchasing it.
The LG G4 looks great - especially in leather - and the fact that it has MicroSD support and a removable battery means that I won't run short of storage (especially when flashing and keeping backups on the phone) and wiping internal storage is no longer a headache. The camera is supposed to be brilliant, but we'll have to see how it works out in real life. The screen looks promising - rumors say it's using 'Quantum Dot' display which results in better color accuracy and is more battery efficient. All good so far!
But according to the latest rumors, this thing comes with a Snapdragon 808. And mildly put, it doesn't look too well. Sure LG didn't have many options - either go with the overheating 810 or put in a worse 808. Not only is the 808 worse than the 810, it's also worse than the 805 in terms of GPU capabilities and power. It's not much but last year most people considered a Snapdragon 805 the absolute minimum requirement for a phone with a QHD display. We all saw how the LG G3 performed with its QHD display - it wasn't bad, but by no means impressive.
I think that LG should've sticked to the 810 and disable two of the four A57 cores on a kernel level. I'm sure a 4+2 setup is plenty processing power, but the Adreno 430 GPU outperforms the Adreno 418 (found in the Snapdragon 808) by a huge margin. In addition to that, Snapdragon 810 supports DDR4 RAM.
I'm torn, and thinking to wait for the Samsung Note 5 and hope it won't come with a UHD display. What are your thoughts?

The Lg g2 had been my best ✆ for three years. It was gorgeous, it was very fast, it lasted all day.
I wasn't impressed with the G3 but I think the G4 has my name written on it. They've had some time to play with the configuration, I'm sure it will be excellent.
They're going to have to crank up the design next year though. Just saying.
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I don't think I'll buy a G4, but I'm pretty sure that my G2 will dress the G4 rom...
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eh i will skip G4 becouse i bought my G2 one year ago and i still need to stay with it for 12 months, but i will probably buy G5 or other 2016 flagship phone

As lg phones are locked down, I'm not gonna buy it. The g2 is great and is still the greatest phone they made. But as a flashaholic and someone who likes modding their phone, an unlocked bootloader is very important to me. I only bought the g2 because it was such great value. It turned out to be such a powerful and fun little beast though with a great community as well. It was lightening in a bottle. But my criteria is a bit more strict now. I'll be sticking with the 1+ for a while

No need. I see no advantage to upgrading because my G2 can do everything I need it to. When I get another phone it'll be a nexus or the Asus Zenphone 2, whichever has the larger community.
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I don't think I'll buy a G4, but I'm pretty sure that my G2 will dress the G4 rom...
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Either this or I just may break down and grab a Note 5 or S6 Edge after they iron the initial kinks out.
We'll see... G3 is a good phone and would rank higher if the G2 didn't exist but wasn't great enough to make me sell My G2.
With that said...let the games begin

I don't think I'll buy a G4, but I'm pretty sure that my G2 will dress the G4 rom...so do I·

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With the G2 being a beast phone there's really not enough to convince me why I should upgrade to the G4 besides the Camera, Removable Battery and Expandable Storage. I live perfectly fine without a Removable Battery and Expandable Storage and the G2 has 32GB of Internal Memory and a 3000mAh battery.. so why bother? There's more chance of me getting a 1+ if I was going to upgrade. I have yet to experience a world with an unlocked bootloader.
Yay for capitalism!
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This will more than likely happen.

G2 is great with me, but looking for better camera with G4.
FullHD is enough, 2k is not really necessary. More important thing is the battery life - which many people said that 2k display on G3 made the battery worse.

I think like the OP. I have a vs980 but I'm seriously thinking about jumping to T-Mobile. I thought I read last year that LG was going to allow unlocked bootloaders going forward with the G3. Given the fact that the G4 has a Snapdragon processor, an external SD card slot and removable batteries I'm thinking there is a lot of potential for a large dev community (especially since the S6 doesn't offer these things). We'll see.

No. I went back to the g2 from the g3 because I didn't like the size. I would get a g4 mini iff it was 5-5.2 and had a high end processor. As it stands now, the s6 and s6 edge look like more suitable replacements

I'm tired of drama
I'm not going to use LG anymore, LG does not satisfy me.

Having owned a few Android devices, I am getting a feeling that the best way to get android experience is to buy a Nexus device. The hardware and the price are only a part of the equation, although we know Nexus devices normally have a great price-performance relation. What makes Nexus so cool is having less pre-installed bloat or custumizations and it's pretty much guaranteed that for the next three years or so you will be the first in the line to get the android updates. Case in point is the stock ROM situation with the current G2. It gives you a glimpse of what it will be like to use the G4 18 months from now. Even though Lollipop 5.1 has come and gone, and the Nexus devices are now running the latest revision of Android 6.0.x, the G2 is still on 5.0.x. Another great example is my Samsung Galaxy Tab S tablet that I bought only a year ago. (This was Samsung's flagship tablet in 2014). Same story here. Still using 5.0, and I imagine Marshmallow is something like six months away and it will be the final update from Samsung. On the other hand, the ancient Nexus 7 is still getting Marshmallow updates.

G2 is it worth it?

Hey guys, I am looking for a new phone and I stopped with lg g2, xiaomi mi3,nexus 5.
I think the g2 is best and the display is big for the size of the phone. I don't like any lag even the slightest lag in a phone. I am gonna buy the phone second hand with warranty and I usually root and install roms after a few months of stock usage. I am gonna use the phone for about 1,5 - 2 years when I get it and I really don't know which one to buy.
Actually I like them all, but the mi3 is too expensive and can only find new ones that are like 80$ more than second hand g2's with warranty and the nexus 5 is good, but weak battery

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Hey guys, I am looking for a new phone and I stopped with lg g2, xiaomi mi3,nexus 5.
I think the g2 is best and the display is big for the size of the phone. I don't like any lag even the slightest lag in a phone. I am gonna buy the phone second hand with warranty and I usually root and install roms after a few months of stock usage. I am gonna use the phone for about 1,5 - 2 years when I get it and I really don't know which one to buy.
Actually I like them all, but the mi3 is too expensive and can only find new ones that are like 80$ more than second hand g2's with warranty and the nexus 5 is good, but weak battery
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I also needed to make the same decision and I finally picked the G2 as it got enough development and the specs are just great for the price.
nexus5 has alot of development but sucks in all the other ways with hardware in my opinion.
Xiaomi mi3, Only a bit of development as Xiaomi isn't the best source releaser and it's kinda huge for its screensize if you compare it to the G2 ain't it?
SO your final pick would probably be the G2 or the N5. But I would personally go for the G2 as the Stock is great and the Camera app is awesome too and the N5 is more like a tester, developer phone so it has really some big ass annoying bugs which you probably don't want. I experienced with my N4 fast draining battery, alot of wifi connection issues. And same goes for almost every nexus device.
So my personal advice is to go with the G2 if you want to live further without much problems and with a long battery life.
And the buttons on the back are damm nice . Plus you got dorimanx kernel with stock roms

I have a n5 and recently bought a g2 mainly for the better camera and battery, however the software imo is a bit lacking and its annoying me to the point where im just going to sell it and keep my n5. Lg's kitkat is simply garbage, its lag city, lg's lollipop isn't available for my phone yet so i have to rely on cm/aosp roms. Since there's so many variations of the g2 not every rom developer supports your phone. I installed around 6 of the most popular roms and found 1 that has all the features i want, gravity box doesn't work on 5.1.1 yet, however i can't get data working on that rom for some reason, seems like the modem isn't compatible with it. So im stuck on kitkat which runs like ****, so i either give up some of the features that i want and run another 5.1.1 rom, or install an older 5.0.2 rom and install gravity box.
Beauty of the n5 is software, every rom works on it, and there's tons of them. There's also a way to stick the g2's battery into it and that's what im going to do once it arrives.

Which g2 model should I look for?
I Am also thinking about meizu m1 note

What's yiur location and network?

If software speed/lag is your deciding factor I'd go with the Nexus 5 everytime. I like LG's 20H firmware but accept that its no where near as fast as 4.4.4 on the Nexus 5. I cant comment on rooted G2 vs rooted N5.
For me, I can live with the speed reduction as the G2 has that killer battery. :angel:

I have looked for a replacement for my old HTC Sensation (running Lollipop) for a long time. I just received a brand new G2 from amazon for $236 yesterday. To me nothing could beat the value new or used right now. I have been impressed with the G2 so far and really look forward to it's reported battery life. I'm just (impatiently) waiting for Tmobile to push out Lollipop to my phone and I'll be totally happy!
I considered the Nexus 5, but used models seemed overpriced and I was concerned about battery life. I also looked at the 1st gen Moto X, but the specs were not quite up to the LG G2 and not a large enough leap from my Sensation. Next up was the OPO, good price but it looked huge for me. A 2nd gen Moto G would have been fine, but no LTE, less phone and similar price to the G2. My big issue with the Nexus, Moto and OPO is that they don't support Tmobile Wifi calling.
My wife got a used Samsung S5. It's decent, but very plastic feeling. The S5 specs are not enough an improvement over the G2 for how I use the phone to warrant the $125+ premium for a used phone.
Pending no stupid tax, and the phone works like I think it should, I can't see trading it out for any current phones.

I am from Bulgaria. Well I will buy either nexus 5 or g2. It depends on which one I will find with more warranty and better condition. Thank you all.

Should this be my next phone?

Hi guys. I own an LG G2 and it's a beastly phone, but poor software updates, bad signal reception and a badly aging camera made me want to move on from it.
I'm looking mainly for a stock experience with good software updates, good battery, great camera, large screen and decent performance.
MXP is within my budget and seems to be what I look for, but I'm concerned about the performance and the lack of sensors (and therefore some functionality). Other options are the Oneplus One and Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3. Moto X 2014 is out of that list due to its battery and camera, and they only sell the 16gb variant in my country and that doesn't work for me.
Users of this phone please help me if you can, thanks in advance!

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Hi guys. I own an LG G2 and it's a beastly phone, but poor software updates, bad signal reception and a badly aging camera made me want to move on from it.
I'm looking mainly for a stock experience with good software updates, good battery, great camera, large screen and decent performance.
MXP is within my budget and seems to be what I look for, but I'm concerned about the performance and the lack of sensors (and therefore some functionality). Other options are the Oneplus One and Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3. Moto X 2014 is out of that list due to its battery and camera, and they only sell the 16gb variant in my country and that doesn't work for me.
Users of this phone please help me if you can, thanks in advance!
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Everything is good. Lack of sensors??? Performance is as expected from a mid range chip.

Okay, so:
-Good software updates : Android 6.0 is in soak test, we might get it this month. CM13 is currently in development and is becoming better every day.
-Good battery: Depends. Would you call 7 hours of SOT good battery?
-Large screen : Large and beautiful, just like my ma' always said (no, jk)
-Decent performance : Similar to the S800 that powers your G2. Enough to run almost anything smoothly
The only sensor that is "missing" is the gyroscope. And unless you want to use it for VR, you won't miss it. At all. Trust me.
I've had the OPO, and I didn't like it. Bezels were too large, and the poor customer service made me sell it after a few weeks. The Idol 3 was my second choice after the MXP. Both are great phones for their price, have similar specs and size. But the huge 3640mAh battery made me buy the MXP, regardless of the higher pricing. I think any of those two phones would be a great choice. They're both balanced, have good specs, and offer almost everything you'd want in a phone for a cheap price.

tiagoSequeira said:
Hi guys. I own an LG G2 and it's a beastly phone, but poor software updates, bad signal reception and a badly aging camera made me want to move on from it.
I'm looking mainly for a stock experience with good software updates, good battery, great camera, large screen and decent performance.
MXP is within my budget and seems to be what I look for, but I'm concerned about the performance and the lack of sensors (and therefore some functionality). Other options are the Oneplus One and Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3. Moto X 2014 is out of that list due to its battery and camera, and they only sell the 16gb variant in my country and that doesn't work for me.
Users of this phone please help me if you can, thanks in advance!
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The one+one for sure
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tiagoSequeira said:
Hi guys. I own an LG G2 and it's a beastly phone, but poor software updates, bad signal reception and a badly aging camera made me want to move on from it.
I'm looking mainly for a stock experience with good software updates, good battery, great camera, large screen and decent performance.
MXP is within my budget and seems to be what I look for, but I'm concerned about the performance and the lack of sensors (and therefore some functionality). Other options are the Oneplus One and Alcatel Onetouch Idol 3. Moto X 2014 is out of that list due to its battery and camera, and they only sell the 16gb variant in my country and that doesn't work for me.
Users of this phone please help me if you can, thanks in advance!
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There is also a lenovo note 8 (k3) i believe is what its called it looks good on paper and its super cheap. Specs are decent. The only thing im not sure about is 4glte. That might be a good alternative.

This phone is overpriced in my opinion

My fiancée came from a G2 and she loves this phone. She loves the battery, the pictures she has taken with this phone are amazing, and she hasn't been happier. I have the phone as well and coming from a Z1 Compact, I love it. Some stutters here and there but the small moto software changes like the moto display and knowing when you drive makes life much easier. It just feels more user friendly.
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Lurdy said:
Okay, so:
-Good software updates : Android 6.0 is in soak test, we might get it this month. CM13 is currently in development and is becoming better every day.
-Good battery: Depends. Would you call 7 hours of SOT good battery?
-Large screen : Large and beautiful, just like my ma' always said (no, jk)
-Decent performance : Similar to the S800 that powers your G2. Enough to run almost anything smoothly
The only sensor that is "missing" is the gyroscope. And unless you want to use it for VR, you won't miss it. At all. Trust me.
I've had the OPO, and I didn't like it. Bezels were too large, and the poor customer service made me sell it after a few weeks. The Idol 3 was my second choice after the MXP. Both are great phones for their price, have similar specs and size. But the huge 3640mAh battery made me buy the MXP, regardless of the higher pricing. I think any of those two phones would be a great choice. They're both balanced, have good specs, and offer almost everything you'd want in a phone for a cheap price.
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Yeah those OPO bezels aren't sexy!
7 hours SOT isn't good, it's great
I think I'll go with the MXP, thank you for the help!