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has anyone installed 360 degree bird view cameras to any of these android head unit? I am thinking to install one like this .
I have a px5 running Android 8 - I need some confidence from your experience.
Thx in advance.
Do you have one of those big SUV school bus type cars ?
I just dont see whats to be gained, that moving your head couldnt solve.
cleverdicky said:
Do you have one of those big SUV school bus type cars ?
I just dont see whats to be gained, that moving your head couldnt solve.
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We all come here to learn. Even if he/she has a Smartcar does it really matter? Tell you the truth I wouldn't mind installing one. I think I remember reading somewhere on here that someone has it installed. You would need to have a video in on the HU. If the HU only has a video in for reverse then obviously it will only work when backing up.
Thank you so much Kouklo for your understanding and insights. Your point about extra video in makes sense. Hope others can share their installation experience with me.
Cheers
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Thank you so much!
So let me give you a bit more info about my project and you may be able to help me more. I have installed an 8" Dasaita Android 8 unit on my 2016 Outlander GT. Now I am planing to install a 360 degree birdview system to this Dasaita system. Could you please help on the following 2 questions? (1) Can I simply plug the male RCA video out from the birdview system to the female RCA of existing rearview camera input of the Dasaita head unit? or an AV IN female RCA female of the Dasaita unit? (2) I found that there is not triggering wire to connect when installing the Dasaita unit, but the birdview system appears need a triggering wire to activate its rearview camera, so not sure hot to handle this issue if I would like to use the existing stock rearview camera with this birdview camera system. I updated to the latest MCU and Android OS, I remember the rearview camera app appears to support 360 degree camera systems now. Thanks so much in advance, I am just preparing myself for the installation. Here is the 360 degree birdview system I bought.
Much appreciated!
jllmoe said:
Thank you so much!
So let me give you a bit more info about my project and you may be able to help me more. I have installed an 8" Dasaita Android 8 unit on my 2016 Outlander GT. Now I am planing to install a 360 degree birdview system to this Dasaita system. Could you please help on the following 2 questions? (1) Can I simply plug the male RCA video out from the birdview system to the female RCA of existing rearview camera input of the Dasaita head unit? or an AV IN female RCA female of the Dasaita unit? (2) I found that there is not triggering wire to connect when installing the Dasaita unit, but the birdview system appears need a triggering wire to activate its rearview camera, so not sure hot to handle this issue if I would like to use the existing stock rearview camera with this birdview camera system. I updated to the latest MCU and Android OS, I remember the rearview camera app appears to support 360 degree camera systems now. Thanks so much in advance, I am just preparing myself for the installation. Here is the 360 degree birdview system I bought.
Much appreciated!
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what about the manual you recived?
I once looked for this kinda system but later I didnt bought it. My understanding is all cameras are connected to the host and you just nned to connect host to your head unit. I think I saw AV IN rca on my unit, I would try on this port first. Also the host I belive you need to connect it 12V and I dont think you need to connect the "trigger " wire since you have ON/OFF switch on your remote controler.
You can try to connect it to the RCA of the rear camera. Nothing bad will happen.
you can also connect all trigger wires together, than when you hit to reverse it will turn on. I connected triger wire to the reverse rearlight (+).
its not so dificult as it might see
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what about the manual you recived?
I once looked for this kinda system but later I didnt bought it. My understanding is all cameras are connected to the host and you just nned to connect host to your head unit. I think I saw AV IN rca on my unit, I would try on this port first. Also the host I belive you need to connect it 12V and I dont think you need to connect the "trigger " wire since you have ON/OFF switch on your remote controler.
You can try to connect it to the RCA of the rear camera. Nothing bad will happen.
you can also connect all trigger wires together, than when you hit to reverse it will turn on. I connected triger wire to the reverse rearlight (+).
its not so dificult as it might see
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Thank you so much again for your detailed explanation.
1. I am sure it will work on the AV IN because I already have installed a side view and a front-view cameras controlled by a similar "host", I activate the system using a short-cut key on my steering wheel, then using a remote to switch between cameras. The drawbacks are (1) it is not automatic like the rearview camera and (2) you need to press a button or two to activate.
2. for this new project, I would like to (hope I can) integrate the new 360 system's front and 2 side cameras with the stock rearview camera. Offline test seems meet my expectation (I do not need it to be activated when turning left or right - I have yet to find the turning signal wire with constant power - pls do not laugh at me ..... did a lot of searching and asked in various forums).
I will keep you posted on my progress.
Cheers,
John
jllmoe said:
Thank you so much again for your detailed explanation.
1. I am sure it will work on the AV IN because I already have installed a side view and a front-view cameras controlled by a similar "host", I activate the system using a short-cut key on my steering wheel, then using a remote to switch between cameras. The drawbacks are (1) it is not automatic like the rearview camera and (2) you need to press a button or two to activate.
2. for this new project, I would like to (hope I can) integrate the new 360 system's front and 2 side cameras with the stock rearview camera. Offline test seems meet my expectation (I do not need it to be activated when turning left or right - I have yet to find the turning signal wire with constant power - pls do not laugh at me ..... did a lot of searching and asked in various forums).
I will keep you posted on my progress.
Cheers,
John
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stock rearview camera is the original on your car?
you can use power cables from main connector of the head unit. there is 12V, ACC and ground. That one that goes in to the back side of the radio and maybe u use some T split conectors.
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stock rearview camera is the original on your car?
you can use power cables from main connector of the head unit. there is 12V, ACC and ground. That one that goes in to the back side of the radio and maybe u use some T split conectors.
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1. Yes, when I said stock rearview camera, I mean the one came with my car (from the manufacture) when I purchased it new;
2. good idea to use the power supply cables you suggested, do you have pictures handy showing the constant 12V, ACC and ground cables going into the Android head unit?
3. when you say T-split connectors, you mean for the RCA video, right?
Thx again!
John
They are the same color.
T-split connectors for getting power to the host unit of 360 controler.
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They are the same color.
T-split connectors for getting power to the host unit of 360 controler.
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Thank you so much again. This is really helpful!
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Thank you so much again. This is really helpful!
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on, actually
1. what is that orange BACK wire (the 4th from the top) for? is it for the backup camera?
2. Haha, I misread the 4 speakers as "4 cameras"......
Thx again
John
it is for connectin trigger wire, for reverse one, so when u put in reverse it will open camera on Head unit.
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it is for connectin trigger wire, for reverse one, so when u put in reverse it will open camera on Head unit.
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Thank you again, Much appreciated!
John
Any news from your mounting?
I buy the same kit as you.
I ask myself how to keep the image after removing the reverse gear.
Because the image does not remain when you remove the reverse.
I think the central box of this kit keep a signal for a few seconds? or when i put ON with transmitter?
i see this box have a input reverse and output reverse (to connect on the reverse signal on the radio)
But can you confirm that it extends the signal "reverse" by a few seconds to be able to display the view 360 in forward (just after the reverse)
Can you confirm me?
(Sorry i am a belgian man and my English is not verry good )
Delor3an88 said:
Any news from your mounting?
I buy the same kit as you.
I ask myself how to keep the image after removing the reverse gear.
Because the image does not remain when you remove the reverse.
I think the central box of this kit keep a signal for a few seconds? or when i put ON with transmitter?
i see this box have a input reverse and output reverse (to connect on the reverse signal on the radio)
But can you confirm that it extends the signal "reverse" by a few seconds to be able to display the view 360 in forward (just after the reverse)
Can you confirm me?
(Sorry i am a belgian man and my English is not verry good )
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Thx for writing back and sorry for my delay but mainly because I have never been able to calibrate the birdview - have been communicating with the seller but not very helpful. Maybe you can help me on the calibration.
To answer your question, yes, I followed your earlier instructions for wiring. yes, I can have the birdview on after removing the reverse gear because I used a 2 (in) to 1 (out) RCA video adapter, one input is from the backup camera and the other input is from the birdview unit, so when you put on reverse gear backup camera shows, and when you switch to other gears you will see the birdview unit's image. Hope this answered your question.
Since I am unable to calibrate the birdview, so I am not really using the full feature. Now I am using bot the stock backup camera and the birthview system (I actually use the image from the front camera only) paralell - meaning I leave the stock backup camera as is, and connected the birdview unit to the AV IN and activate it by a quick button (the voice recognition button) on my steering wheel whenever I need to see it.
Hope this is helpful, and after you resolve this issue, hopefully you can help me on calibration.
Cheers,
John
Here's what I did on mine:
1-Connected the reverse signal from the canbox, and the left & right turn signals from the car mirrors to the 360 device.
2-Connected the 360 device trigger signal to the reverse signal input in the head unit.
3-Connected the 360 device RCA output to the head unit reverse camera input.
This way, whenever I turn left, right, or put the car on reverse, the 360 view together with left, right, or rear camera views, gets automatically displayed on the head unit. When I put the car out of reverse, the 360 device replaces the rear camera view with the front camera view and stays on for a few seconds before turning off.
I can also press the flasher to get the 360 camera on anytime.
It's very simple
I'have mounted wenichen 360 degree bird view on my rover 75
Connect reverse light + on the cable rear cam.
Connect right and left turn light on cable of camera
Connect video out on the rear cam input of PX5 and the white cable on the px5 reverse cable.
When you turn on left or right or put reverse, the px5 switch the screen to show 360 bird view
I abandoned the idea of putting the box "bird 360"
the new PX6 has the plugs to connect a camera to the front!
(The px5 has the same plug but is not wired)
I managed to get the new RCA plugs and now I have an input and a power supply to connect a camera to the front!
remains more than to change the option in the canbus to activate the camera at the front just after the reverse
I'd like to hear from anyone who has got a PX6 in their Transporter T5.1.
I bought an "SWC" / "Erisin" PX6 4GB/32GB Android 9 HU to replace my PX5. Fitted it and discovered it was not MTCD/MTCE.
I could not get my reversing camera to work with it*. All I got was a flashing "No video signal" message. I sent the HU back for a refund.
Would still like to get a PX6 but need the reversing camera to work. Would prefer MTCD/MTCE. Anybody on the forum done this?
My van is a 2014 BlueMotion 84kW TDI model. I believe 2014 models are a bit "special" electrically. I'm just trying to gather information about PX6 HUs that might work in my van.
(*Longer version: Tried triggering the HU Reversing function with: just CANBUS; with direct connection to reverse light +ve; with connection to +12v via a relay; and connection to battery +ve. (These last 3 by cutting into the wiring bundle as suggested by Chinese technician) but nothing worked. The (rear facing) camera worked perfectly when plugged into the HU's RCA DVR connector and camera now still works with my re-fitted PX5)
Hi there,
Did you make it work eventually?
Here is my experience with a PX6 on my T5 (2009) - will copy paste a post which I already wrote in another thread:
I recently noticed my PX6 unit doesn't see any of the front / rear cameras. With all wires connected the f-cam app shows the orange triangle (no signal) for both front and back cameras. The same happens if I give a 12v signal to the reverse (pink) wire.
I never got to install the backup camera in my car but I did bench tests with a power source and had the cameras working when I first got the unit. Now, a few months later, the cameras simply don't work
I tested with 2 different cameras and also with a DVD player and none worked.
I even opened the unit and checked the motherboard to see if there is a fried circuit or IC...and saw nothing. The video inputs lead to a IC labeled "FMS6502" and the signal gets to it through a 75ohm resistor and a capacitor which both look okay.
What can it be?
So these being said, I am afraid these units have some hardware issue with the front/rear camera inputs.
PS: on my Opel Combo car I have a PX3 unit with working rear camera !
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Hi there,
Did you make it work eventually?
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No, I sent it back for refund.
Here is my experience with a PX6 on my T5 (2009) - will copy paste a post which I already wrote in another thread:
I recently noticed my PX6 unit doesn't see any of the front / rear cameras. With all wires connected the f-cam app shows the orange triangle (no signal) for both front and back cameras. The same happens if I give a 12v signal to the reverse (pink) wire.
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My reversing camera worked if plugged into the f-cam input, but of course this is useless as you need it to be triggered by going into reverse and f-cam input is not. Atleast it meant I could be sure nothing was wrong with my camera.
I never got to install the backup camera in my car but I did bench tests with a power source and had the cameras working when I first got the unit. Now, a few months later, the cameras simply don't work
I tested with 2 different cameras and also with a DVD player and none worked.
I even opened the unit and checked the motherboard to see if there is a fried circuit or IC...and saw nothing. The video inputs lead to a IC labeled "FMS6502" and the signal gets to it through a 75ohm resistor and a capacitor which both look okay.
What can it be?
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I think my PX6 was expecting something special in the trigger signal. 12v DC from the reverse light did not work. Nor did 12v DC straight from the battery via a relay. The PX6 wiring loom lets you choose between CANBUS and non-CANBUS configuration. Neither of these worked. I even hacked the wiring on instructions from Erisin in China with no success (They clearly misunderstood their own wiring diagram though, so I never expected the hacking to work).
So these being said, I am afraid these units have some hardware issue with the front/rear camera inputs.
PS: on my Opel Combo car I have a PX3 unit with working rear camera !
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I think you are right. There is a hardware issue. I have a PX5 which works fine with the reversing camera input but the trigger signal has to be 12v DC direct from the battery via a relay triggered by the reversing light.
It was a shame because the PX6 was faster than my PX5 and the screen was brighter. But not having a reversing camera was a showstopper.
Thanks for you reply!
Regarding activation of the reverse screen, I managed to make good use of the canbus decoder box which they sent me from China (first one didnt work, them they sent me another one which recognizes the CAN messages correctly).
So the problem is that the unit doesn't receive the video signal from the camera, although it gets into reverse mode.
Moreover, the unit doesn't show the camera image by using F-Cam app either...hence I believe it is the video controller (FMS6502) that is faulty. I have to check it with a multimeter based on the specs of it...
These units are atractive but they have serious flaws in their mechanical (cheap plastics, buttons, etc) and electronic design.
Sending the unit to warranty in China is a lost cause too...
Cheers
cflaviu said:
Thanks for you reply!
Regarding activation of the reverse screen, I managed to make good use of the canbus decoder box which they sent me from China (first one didnt work, them they sent me another one which recognizes the CAN messages correctly).
So the problem is that the unit doesn't receive the video signal from the camera, although it gets into reverse mode.
Moreover, the unit doesn't show the camera image by using F-Cam app either...hence I believe it is the video controller (FMS6502) that is faulty. I have to check it with a multimeter based on the specs of it...
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Yes, it sounds like you have a hardware fault. For me it was some sort of incompatibility in the camera signal/reverse trigger.
These units are atractive but they have serious flaws in their mechanical (cheap plastics, buttons, etc) and electronic design.
Sending the unit to warranty in China is a lost cause too...
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My Erisin branded PX6 was very poor quality compared to my Xtrons branded PX5. The connectors and the buttons on the PX6 were very fragile.
I was lucky: the UK importer refunded my money, but only after I told them I would raise a dispute on EBay.
Hi all, I have an Australian 2011 Kia Sportage Platinum model - I think it was SX / highest spec model in other countries. Apparently the Australian car in 2011 was a little unique in that it had a 6 stack CD but no sat nav on the head unit. There is a factory digital amp and sub woofer located in the rear. As much as I have attempted to get this fact across to suppliers on Aliexpress, I am sure they did not fully understand and have suggested I only need a CAMBUS and I am good to go.
As you can see with the pinout for my radio on connector A I have SPDIF ground, DN and DP. So it is a discrete signal to the amp that decodes what I assume is PCM and then sends it off to the speakers. I have a few questions:
1. Before I install the 7862 Unit, I will check voltage out from Pins 6 and 15 on my factory radio with sound on. I assume this will be less than 5 volts. as per SPDIF coax spec. I will then connect up the 7862 unit, plug in an RCA to the COAX SPDIF out and check voltage. If the wiring loom that I have been sent doesn't work, this COAX out feed fed into my car's wiring loom along with a 12v signal on pin 14 (remote AMP) will get me started. Any thoughts?
2. On Connector A of my original head unit, there are the SPDIF outs but why are there also speaker outs for front and rear left and right if there is a digital signal to the amp? Does this mean that the amp is only feeding the sub woofer and that the fronts and rears are fed directly from the head unit? It seems very strange to me.
3. PIN 9 on Connector A is DETENT. What is that? PIN 14 is Remote AMP. Is this a 12v line to wake up the amp?
4. Chinese Unit wiring shows a CANBUS but I am unsure is the CANBUS has an analog to digital converter? Can anyone shed light on this?
I appreciate any assistance you can offer.
This could help regarding SPDIF: https://www.gencoupe.com/threads/help-spdif-preamp-input-nav-premium.106094/
Are you sure the China head unit has an SPDIF output?
I think your OEM radio supports both. SPDIF and analog output. Or there is a cheaper variant available which only supports analog output. You don't need this connectors when using SPDIF.
I don't know Detent but in another forum they just ignored this pin.
Remote Amp is 12v signal for the amplifier. So you're right.
The canbus converts digital signals from your car to the radio. E.g. Translates the steering wheel buttons to a signal the head unit can interpret.
Hi, thanks for the link.
I am sure the chinese unit I purchased has SPDIF out via TOSLINK and coax but not through the main head unit wiring.
There definately is a cheaper model of my vehicle that didn't have a digital amp but I am suprised that there is both direct digital signal to the amp as well as direct wiring to the speakers. It is very confusing.
I understand CANBUS has a high and low signal but I wasn't sure if they specifically also change digital audio signals as well as well as the standard CAN signals.
I believe some CANBUS may handle both the CAN high / low transfer and have the ability to to convert the analog signal out of the android head unit to an SPDIF line level PCM (assumed) signal that my amp needs.
I guess this is not a common subject here. I might have to wait and do a fair bit of testing before I install.
Connecting a china head unit can be a real challenge, especially because there is zero support from the seller.
I've seen the amplifier has separate inputs for navigation voice (pin 9 and 23). Sorry for the German link:
Kia Sportage - Externer verstärker Bauteile und bauteile-Übersicht - AVN-System
Maybe some audio signals will be transferred analog. You could connect the new device without the analog audio connections to check if they are really required.
Can't help you regarding CANBUS but I hope you keep us updated and give some updates of your "project".
Maybe you're interested:
Junsun V1 MTK8259 - the adapter battle (Kia Ceed Jd) / OEM camera usage / reference thread
I bought the Junsun V1 head unit but my Kia Ceed JD had a OEM nav unit which isn't directly compatible to Junsun V1. So I re-wired the wiring harness based on the pins description of my original OEM navigation unit. I'm only modifying the wiring...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks again. The problem I have is that my head unit has SPDIF out, USB out rear cam out but all connected to the two white plugs. This unit seems different to all the US, Europe and other Asia models. It might be why I am getting so many blank stares.
I'm even having trouble finding an Australian edition of the wiring diagrams.
Your helpful link to the QL model German manual also has an SL model which is my model. Unfortunately my radio is not amongst the option in the manual. I see radios offer Sirrus so I am assuming that is a US model.
I might just need to go back to first principals and really understand my head unit before I do any installing. How is your install going?
My installation was a little tricky because I found three wringing diagrams which could be the correct one.
Fortunately all the wringing diagrams had ILLU and REVERSE on different positions so I was able to identify the correct one with a multimeter. But I wasn't able to find the wringing diagram with the model name of the device.
I have a Kia and finally the needed wiring diagram was from a Hiunday device. Someone crosslinked from a Kia forum to a Hiunday forum.
I had to completely re-wire and enhance the black plug of the China head unit because AUX and MIC are separate outputs on the China nav unit.
On the other side I had to remove USB from the black connector because this is a separate plug in the Kia.
For you the USB pins may are another good pins to check if the writing diagram is the right one.
I'm sure you already found this regarding the DETENT mystery:
Any radio wiring experts know what "Detent" leads are for?
Any radio wiring experts know what "Detent" leads are for?
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But I think DETENT is PARKING/HAND BREAK. So that's easy to verify.
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I'm sure you already found this regarding the DETENT mystery:
But I think DETENT is PARKING/HAND BREAK. So that's easy to verify.
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I think there is still a little mystery for me, but I will work it out.
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My installation was a little tricky because I found three wringing diagrams which could be the correct one.
Fortunately all the wringing diagrams had ILLU and REVERSE on different positions so I was able to identify the correct one with a multimeter.
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You were lucky to have the option to eliminate 2 of the 3 wiring diagrams. I will do the same before I start wiring the new HU.
For you the USB pins may are another good pins to check if the writing diagram is the right one.
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Yes, I will be doing a double check of everything.
I *think* that I have worked out why there is SPDIF line level + and - to the amp as well as wiring direct to the speakers from the factory HU.
I *think* that when I use and AUX input from USB or 3.5mm which is analog input, the factory headunit does no conversion and just amplifies the analog signal and sends it to the 4 main speakers. It will be simple to check this.
If I am correct, only CD and radio singal gets converted to digital line level SPDIF PCM then gets sent to the amp.
As my radio has a COAX SPDIF out, I might be able to make a single RCA to double RCA cable to send the signal to the amp. Or I might just patch in the SPDIF COAX RCA into the main ISO plug directly. I think having the COAX SPDIF out from my new HU will give me a lot more option.
I need to check if the CANBUS converts the analog signal to SPDIF line level or if the Chinese wiring just bypasses the amp and sub woofer or does something else again.
My new HU will arrive tomorrow of Monday so I will get time to study the wiring and make some checks. I will be sure to document all of the things I find. I just need to make the time to do it.
Well after a quick plug in and test, I am not getting any signal to amp regardless of how well I have followed the supplier's suggestions.
I think the standard signal to the amp id not happening so the amp is not waking up.
Canbus is for a 2015 Sportage but steering wheel options work with the volume working in opposite.
Will investigate more tomorrow.
Installed the radio today. The radio supplier's suggested installation did not work as I was sure it wouldn't.
After considering options, I chose to use the coax out and patch that into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) and everything worked fine.
Some things to note:
1. Canbus worked although the steering wheel volume controls are reversed. Not sure if that is easily changable. I might just live with it.
2.The supplier actually sent me quite a bit more than I was expecting. There were extra patch cables and an external mic. This was nice, but I actually bought a mic thinking that one did not come with the kit. It was only a few dollars though.
3.There is very little installation info. The info by way of photos I was sent did not match the cabling that I had.I would have liked to get an understanding of all the pin outs including the CANBUS but I am yet to receive this.
3. I actually removed my factory radio last night and just powered up the unit. I didn't realise that the default setting in the software is to only put the unit in standby or only turned off the screen. This drained my battery over about 18 hours. I needed a jump start to get the car going and I now have the battery on a trickle charge to repair it.
This default setting allows instant on for the radio. By changing to the option for a three second delay, the radio needs to boot on car starting.
4. Boot times are quick. I have not timed it yet, but I would guess 20 seconds. Bluetooth connection takes about another 20 seconds after that. I will make a video of it and more when I have used the unit a bit more.
5. The radio fascia brackets weren't installed properly. Just make sure to check them before you install. The screws really should be a bit longer to stop threading the fascia mounts.
6. The fascia is not a perfect match for my dash in colour but it still looks good. The fit is not perfect but good enough. I might remove the dash again tomorrow and just pack one side of the fascia so it is more flush fitting but it would only be 3-5mm.
All in all I am very satisfied. The response of the unit is great and sound quality seems good. Bluetooth and wireless connected well and a quick test of the 5ghz frequency wifi tethered to my phone gave 6mb/s when I was downloading the Waze app. I will test more soon.
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Installed the radio today. The radio supplier's suggested installation did not work as I was sure it wouldn't.
After considering options, I chose to use the coax out and patch that into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) and everything worked fine.
Some things to note:
1. Canbus worked although the steering wheel volume controls are reversed. Not sure if that is easily changable. I might just live with it.
2.The supplier actually sent me quite a bit more than I was expecting. There were extra patch cables and an external mic. This was nice, but I actually bought a mic thinking that one did not come with the kit. It was only a few dollars though.
3.There is very little installation info. The info by way of photos I was sent did not match the cabling that I had.I would have liked to get an understanding of all the pin outs including the CANBUS but I am yet to receive this.
3. I actually removed my factory radio last night and just powered up the unit. I didn't realise that the default setting in the software is to only put the unit in standby or only turned off the screen. This drained my battery over about 18 hours. I needed a jump start to get the car going and I now have the battery on a trickle charge to repair it.
This default setting allows instant on for the radio. By changing to the option for a three second delay, the radio needs to boot on car starting.
4. Boot times are quick. I have not timed it yet, but I would guess 20 seconds. Bluetooth connection takes about another 20 seconds after that. I will make a video of it and more when I have used the unit a bit more.
5. The radio fascia brackets weren't installed properly. Just make sure to check them before you install. The screws really should be a bit longer to stop threading the fascia mounts.
6. The fascia is not a perfect match for my dash in colour but it still looks good. The fit is not perfect but good enough. I might remove the dash again tomorrow and just pack one side of the fascia so it is more flush fitting but it would only be 3-5mm.
All in all I am very satisfied. The response of the unit is great and sound quality seems good. Bluetooth and wireless connected well and a quick test of the 5ghz frequency wifi tethered to my phone gave 6mb/s when I was downloading the Waze app. I will test more soon.
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To 1: Isn't there a setting in Android car menu where you can assign the buttons to specific functions?
To 3: same topic here. I can set Sleep to on or off. But can't set time how long to sleep before shutdown.
TorstenH said:
To 1: Isn't there a setting in Android car menu where you can assign the buttons to specific functions?
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There is that function and I did try to use it. I was long pressing on the physical button before pressing the on screen as suggested but there was no change. I assumed the button remap is only useful for non Canbus driven buttons. I could be wrong, though.
To 3: same topic here. I can set Sleep to on or off. But can't set time how long to sleep before shutdown.
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I too would like a full understanding of the sleep function. Things like when sleep starts, when shut down starts etc would be useful.
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Some things to note:
1. Canbus worked although the steering wheel volume controls are reversed. Not sure if that is easily changable. I might just live with it.
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I hope you got this sorted. If not, have you tried this?
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After considering options, I chose to use the coax out and patch that into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) and everything worked fine.
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I Installed in my SL Sportage Platinum today and have no sound and no reversing camera. Do you have a photo of how you wired from the SPDIF on the unit to the factory connector?
Did you keep the factory camera? If so, what did you do to get these working? I think my unit is slightly different as I don't have the small clock.
Storrsy said:
I Installed in my SL Sportage Platinum today and have no sound and no reversing camera. Do you have a photo of how you wired from the SPDIF on the unit to the factory connector?
Did you keep the factory camera? If so, what did you do to get these working? I think my unit is slightly different as I don't have the small clock.
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Did you use the coax out method? The Kia amp requires am PCM digital signal sent on two wires as mentioned above.
Get an RCA male male cable. Cut on end and strip until you see two bare wires. These bare wires will patch into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) of your car's wiring loom. These are the wires to the amp.
Add this male connector end of the RCA cable into the RCA digital out on the head unit. Check for sound.
My reversing camera is built into my rear view mirror so the wiring is not connected to the radio. And yes, I found the switch for volume, but thanks for letting me know. It might help someone else.
ludditefornow said:
Did you use the coax out method? The Kia amp requires am PCM digital signal sent on two wires as mentioned above.
Get an RCA male male cable. Cut on end and strip until you see two bare wires. These bare wires will patch into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) of your car's wiring loom. These are the wires to the amp.
Add this male connector end of the RCA cable into the RCA digital out on the head unit. Check for sound.
My reversing camera is built into my rear view mirror so the wiring is not connected to the radio. And yes, I found the switch for volume, but thanks for letting me know. It might help someone else.
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Success!!! I was able to get the amp working thanks to this thread. I was also able to get the camera working by splicing the 'unused' green reverse wire from the supplied harness to the brown reverse signal wire in the CANBUS connection. (I noted that in the some of the offical images the wire was pink.)
Peeps, did you have to connect the remote amp (12v positive?) or SPDIF ground (12v negative?) I’m almost there just no sound.. I’ve connected coax out to pins 6&15 but nothing
From the modifed coax cable coming out of your head unit, what voltage are you getting on either wire when playing audio?
If you aren't getting a signal, then there is a software setting (that I can't think of right now) or another issue.
And I have not connected the remote amp wire. Clear photos help a lot if you have followup questions.
Zero volts
Then the headunit is not passing a signal to the spdif RCA out for some reason
Hello its possibile help for visualization rear camera video with ownice k7 . I have installed in renault kadjar with ISO cable and canbus but rear camera dont start when i insert rear gear thanks
This is also the case with me! Today I installed the Ownice K7 radio. It is a big disappointment that there is no picture of the reversing camera. Are we doing something wrong?
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This is also the case with me! Today I installed the Ownice K7 radio. It is a big disappointment that there is no picture of the reversing camera. Are we doing something wrong?
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Toyota C-HR hybrid is my car, if that's interesting.
no in my opinion the 32pin iso cable where the original rear camera cable passes is not well wired because I saw that there is no power to the rear camera. we have to find the problem and solve it. if you succeed let me know how you solved.
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no in my opinion the 32pin iso cable where the original rear camera cable passes is not well wired because I saw that there is no power to the rear camera. we have to find the problem and solve it. if you succeed let me know how you solved.
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I haven't had any results yet. Maybe you should try pairing the canbus first. It installs an extra app with car setup options.
But I have tried in vain so far, there are too many choices. Although I found my car on one of the models, I didn't get the picture of the reversing camera.
The seller's response today is:
"Did you connect the Cam in port on our power cable to the Rear camera input port on RCA cable."
Of course there is no RCA, there is a canbus.
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I haven't had any results yet. Maybe you should try pairing the canbus first. It installs an extra app with car setup options.
But I have tried in vain so far, there are too many choices. Although I found my car on one of the models, I didn't get the picture of the reversing camera.
The seller's response today is:
"Did you connect the Cam in port on our power cable to the Rear camera input port on RCA cable."
Of course there is no RCA, there is a canbus.
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Maybe that's the solution?
I did it, but nothing happened ...
There are two CAM IN RCA connectors on the POWER harness. I tried both, although nothing from the factory radio is connected to one of its pin connectors.
Hi, is your hu with 360? If so, then k7 will use the 360 cam instead of your existing cam. The reverse cam will only work if 360 app is not running. Try restarting the hu while in reverse. Then as the hu boots the reverse cam will show at for a few seconds.
If hu did not come with 360, then check the reverse cam type.
The rca connector is in B harness not power. It is brown color. Then if you have canbus, it should be automatic. Make sure your reverse cam is terminated properly ie. Power and ground.
i have TEST YOUR SOLUTION, i don't have 360 camera , i have CANBUS WITH BROWN CABLE but i when insert rerar gear not appear. if i open app for vision cam the message is NOT SIGNAL.
i have test at connecting at aftermarket cam and i see image in app. where is the problem of my original cam??
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Hi, is your hu with 360? If so, then k7 will use the 360 cam instead of your existing cam. The reverse cam will only work if 360 app is not running. Try restarting the hu while in reverse. Then as the hu boots the reverse cam will show at for a few seconds.
If hu did not come with 360, then check the reverse cam type.
The rca connector is in B harness not power. It is brown color. Then if you have canbus, it should be automatic. Make sure your reverse cam is terminated properly ie. Power and ground.
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No, there is no 360. But only part of the problem is that there is no reversing camera image!
Unfortunately, nothing works about CANBUS, only the left side of the steering control.
The seller also sent a picture of the camera connection. I repackaged the radio, checked it, everything is as pictured! It also sent about CANBUS type selection, but it is.
No door opening, no radar, no air conditioning, nothing ... Who doesn't have a reversing camera, do the other things work?
I have write to winlink ownice and the result is the camera original not work and seller send me a camera sony! When arrive i test
The problem for me is in the canbus decoder not support rear camera original. Because the original camera is 6v but radio send 12v
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The problem for me is in the canbus decoder not support rear camera original. Because the original camera is 6v but radio send 12v
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Considered installing a voltage regulator and using the factory camera, like for Toyota models?
The knockoff won't be a Sony...
marchnz said:
Considered installing a voltage regulator and using the factory camera, like for Toyota models?
The knockoff won't be a Sony...
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For me, Toyota C-HR hybrid is my car. Unfortunately, nothing works about the CAN BUS, not just the factory reversing camera. But I think the Toyota camera is 12V. Now I’m there for the seller to contact the engineer to see if the smooth and hybrid CHR require the same CAN BUS. (There is a different type of hybrid in the Factory menu.)
Today i have test some solution but not work. I have connect rca cable cam at other rca radio connector VIDEO OUT and the video of rear camera when I open apk AUX is work!!! But if I connect to rear camera rca and positive on pin 4 radio back the cam enter in rear vision but not see image. Repeat i connect rca cable cam to AUX VIDEO and red wire Cam ON positive and image work good but I connect rear cam rca at RCA CAM INPUT OF RADIO and red wire at pin. N4 of radio the display on the rear camera but not image!!!! Help for me
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I have write to winlink ownice and the result is the camera original not work and seller send me a camera sony! When arrive i test
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Has the promised camera arrived? Now they promised me one too. I hope this already works, although I would have preferred the original to work!
Funny mixture of topics here.
You need +12 V on the reverse cable of your head unit as soon as you in reverse gear. This is just to tell the hu that you're in reverse. You can grab the reverse signal from can bus box or from the wiring harness of your car. Use a multimeter to verify if you get the 12 V. Search for the pin description of the original OEM radio.
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Funny mixture of topics here.
You need +12 V on the reverse cable of your head unit as soon as you in reverse gear. This is just to tell the hu that you're in reverse. You can grab the reverse signal from can bus box or from the wiring harness of your car. Use a multimeter to verify if you get the 12 V. Search for the pin description of the original OEM radio.
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I have connect +12v at my rear camera but when inseet rear gear start camera but not video, if I connect camera at 12v battery camera work good !
Hey guys,
Ive got an Joying JY-UQ135N4G headunit with android 10.
As I have no signal cable for the reverse gear detection, I connected my rear camera to AV IN. When connecting the camera to AV IN there is luckily no need to connect the orange signal cable for reverse gear detection.
Unfortunately the screen does not show any parking lines when using the default "aux" app. (The rear camera app can't be used as the camera is connected to AV IN)
Is there any alternative app that I can use to get the parking lines?
Many thanks & Best regards!
there is definitely an application. Buy another camera anyway because static lines are embedded in the camera chip. I had a DVD reversing camera attached at home and there were static reversing lines in the picture. I have dynamic lines on the radio directly in the radio (application and dynamic rotation of the line is controlled by CANBUS in the car). And I have statics on the camera. I can add pictures. Some manufacturers also offer reversing cameras with the option to cancel static lines or rotate the mirror image (you can cut a thin cable). You can find such cameras on Aliexpress. Or do you want a link?
Hi, the camera doesn't have lines integrated, otherwise they would show up, when the camera is connected to Aux/AV IN. My headunit does have the reserving lines integrated, but only when the camera is connected to the rear camera input, which can't be used as I don't have the necessary signal cable available at the headunit.
When I connect the camera to Aux/AV IN input I can't use the "rear camera application" as the camera isn't connected to that input. I must use the Aux application, but that doesn't have the reversing lines integrated.
Does the radio have no reversing camera signal connectors? If so, you can connect + 12v from the reversing light. This is the signal to start the reversing app. It's for a car that doesn't have a canbus. If you can't find the app with guide lines, you have to buy another camera that already has integrated lines on the chip. If you buy such a camera, the reversing lines will show you both AUX / AV IN and any device
Sorry, but did you even read the whole text ? I thought I described clear enough what I already tested and what the exact problem is.
hi. I understand what you tried. Good luck looking for an app. If you can't find it, the only option is to buy a camera with guide lines to display them on AUX / AV IN. Stay healthy ...