I'd like to hear from anyone who has got a PX6 in their Transporter T5.1.
I bought an "SWC" / "Erisin" PX6 4GB/32GB Android 9 HU to replace my PX5. Fitted it and discovered it was not MTCD/MTCE.
I could not get my reversing camera to work with it*. All I got was a flashing "No video signal" message. I sent the HU back for a refund.
Would still like to get a PX6 but need the reversing camera to work. Would prefer MTCD/MTCE. Anybody on the forum done this?
My van is a 2014 BlueMotion 84kW TDI model. I believe 2014 models are a bit "special" electrically. I'm just trying to gather information about PX6 HUs that might work in my van.
(*Longer version: Tried triggering the HU Reversing function with: just CANBUS; with direct connection to reverse light +ve; with connection to +12v via a relay; and connection to battery +ve. (These last 3 by cutting into the wiring bundle as suggested by Chinese technician) but nothing worked. The (rear facing) camera worked perfectly when plugged into the HU's RCA DVR connector and camera now still works with my re-fitted PX5)
Hi there,
Did you make it work eventually?
Here is my experience with a PX6 on my T5 (2009) - will copy paste a post which I already wrote in another thread:
I recently noticed my PX6 unit doesn't see any of the front / rear cameras. With all wires connected the f-cam app shows the orange triangle (no signal) for both front and back cameras. The same happens if I give a 12v signal to the reverse (pink) wire.
I never got to install the backup camera in my car but I did bench tests with a power source and had the cameras working when I first got the unit. Now, a few months later, the cameras simply don't work
I tested with 2 different cameras and also with a DVD player and none worked.
I even opened the unit and checked the motherboard to see if there is a fried circuit or IC...and saw nothing. The video inputs lead to a IC labeled "FMS6502" and the signal gets to it through a 75ohm resistor and a capacitor which both look okay.
What can it be?
So these being said, I am afraid these units have some hardware issue with the front/rear camera inputs.
PS: on my Opel Combo car I have a PX3 unit with working rear camera !
cflaviu said:
Hi there,
Did you make it work eventually?
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No, I sent it back for refund.
Here is my experience with a PX6 on my T5 (2009) - will copy paste a post which I already wrote in another thread:
I recently noticed my PX6 unit doesn't see any of the front / rear cameras. With all wires connected the f-cam app shows the orange triangle (no signal) for both front and back cameras. The same happens if I give a 12v signal to the reverse (pink) wire.
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My reversing camera worked if plugged into the f-cam input, but of course this is useless as you need it to be triggered by going into reverse and f-cam input is not. Atleast it meant I could be sure nothing was wrong with my camera.
I never got to install the backup camera in my car but I did bench tests with a power source and had the cameras working when I first got the unit. Now, a few months later, the cameras simply don't work
I tested with 2 different cameras and also with a DVD player and none worked.
I even opened the unit and checked the motherboard to see if there is a fried circuit or IC...and saw nothing. The video inputs lead to a IC labeled "FMS6502" and the signal gets to it through a 75ohm resistor and a capacitor which both look okay.
What can it be?
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I think my PX6 was expecting something special in the trigger signal. 12v DC from the reverse light did not work. Nor did 12v DC straight from the battery via a relay. The PX6 wiring loom lets you choose between CANBUS and non-CANBUS configuration. Neither of these worked. I even hacked the wiring on instructions from Erisin in China with no success (They clearly misunderstood their own wiring diagram though, so I never expected the hacking to work).
So these being said, I am afraid these units have some hardware issue with the front/rear camera inputs.
PS: on my Opel Combo car I have a PX3 unit with working rear camera !
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I think you are right. There is a hardware issue. I have a PX5 which works fine with the reversing camera input but the trigger signal has to be 12v DC direct from the battery via a relay triggered by the reversing light.
It was a shame because the PX6 was faster than my PX5 and the screen was brighter. But not having a reversing camera was a showstopper.
Thanks for you reply!
Regarding activation of the reverse screen, I managed to make good use of the canbus decoder box which they sent me from China (first one didnt work, them they sent me another one which recognizes the CAN messages correctly).
So the problem is that the unit doesn't receive the video signal from the camera, although it gets into reverse mode.
Moreover, the unit doesn't show the camera image by using F-Cam app either...hence I believe it is the video controller (FMS6502) that is faulty. I have to check it with a multimeter based on the specs of it...
These units are atractive but they have serious flaws in their mechanical (cheap plastics, buttons, etc) and electronic design.
Sending the unit to warranty in China is a lost cause too...
Cheers
cflaviu said:
Thanks for you reply!
Regarding activation of the reverse screen, I managed to make good use of the canbus decoder box which they sent me from China (first one didnt work, them they sent me another one which recognizes the CAN messages correctly).
So the problem is that the unit doesn't receive the video signal from the camera, although it gets into reverse mode.
Moreover, the unit doesn't show the camera image by using F-Cam app either...hence I believe it is the video controller (FMS6502) that is faulty. I have to check it with a multimeter based on the specs of it...
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Yes, it sounds like you have a hardware fault. For me it was some sort of incompatibility in the camera signal/reverse trigger.
These units are atractive but they have serious flaws in their mechanical (cheap plastics, buttons, etc) and electronic design.
Sending the unit to warranty in China is a lost cause too...
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My Erisin branded PX6 was very poor quality compared to my Xtrons branded PX5. The connectors and the buttons on the PX6 were very fragile.
I was lucky: the UK importer refunded my money, but only after I told them I would raise a dispute on EBay.
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Hello guys,
I have a huge deal trying to implement the front camera on Joying JY-UL135.
I have allready the rear RCA camera installed, and it works great with the reverse gear.
I've connected the front camera on the AV-IN, and it works when I use SRC button on AV-IN, but I want it to work as a front camera, so I've activated it in "Factory Settings Menu", but it shows me a yellow ! sign, and no way to make it work.
I've asked Joying, but no good answer. :crying:
Is it possible to make it work somehow? Maybe by flashing with a compatible MCU? which will handle it as Front Camera and not AV-IN?
Thank you,
Cheers,
Front Cam
Did you power the front camera beside's using the RCA.
Damit17, not yet.. this is what i was thinking about... but from 4pda forum, it seems that F-CAM RCA and AV-IN are differnt.
Is it same input? did you tried it?
Post MCU and Android version in [about] so we know which unit you have. Model numbers are almost meaningless.
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Post MCU and Android version in [about] so we know which unit you have. Model numbers are almost meaningless.
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Hello, so its Android 5.1.1
MCU version: MTCD_JY_V2.06_2
Dec 21 2016 16:07:07
Build:
rk3188-userdebug 21122016.15:16:21
Thanks,
itexcom said:
Hello, so its Android 5.1.1
MCU version: MTCD_JY_V2.06_2
Dec 21 2016 16:07:07
Build:
rk3188-userdebug 21122016.15:16:21
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Thanks - You have an MTCD px3 1gb unit. I have the same unit. I dont have a front cam connected but will look into the connection diagram and post later.
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Thanks - You have an MTCD px3 1gb unit. I have the same unit. I dont have a front cam connected but will look into the connection diagram and post later.
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Thanks marchnz.
My problem is, Joying does not support officially front cam. The unit has only AV-IN.
Would this be because Joying expect the front camera to be a USB camera/DVR as listed in the wiring diagram? The AV input wasnt intended for front camera operation; this is for DVD players, DVB-T TV tuners etc.
Unless there is a way to assign the AV input via [Factory Settings Menu]?
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Would this be because Joying expect the front camera to be a USB camera/DVR as listed in the wiring diagram? The AV input wasnt intended for front camera operation; this is for DVD players, DVB-T TV tuners etc.
Unless there is a way to assign the AV input via [Factory Settings Menu]?
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I've tried, but without succsess... also I have already DVR connected by USB, but im looking for a real F cam integration on parking ....
itexcom said:
I've tried, but without succsess... also I have already DVR connected by USB, but im looking for a real F cam integration on parking ....
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Hi, maybe something like this may help - Car Parking Camera Video 2 Channel Converter Auto Switch Front /Side/Rearview Rear View Camera Video Control Box with Manual
I have no experience with this unit but tempted to look into a solution like this.
did you ever get this to work?
F-CAM app does not work for me either for rear cam... It shows yellow ! sign... I have a Seicane PX3 android head unit.
lucassidoti said:
F-CAM app does not work for me either for rear cam... It shows yellow ! sign... I have a Seicane PX3 android head unit.
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My mtcd unit has a front camera RCA input and an F-CAM power connector. F-CAM app and front camera work out of box with this unit.
If you don't have these connectors and are interested in getting F-CAM to work, follow this thread:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/an...tions-development/parking-camera-mod-t3663956
Hello,
I am installing my head unit and everything Canbus related work, such as door open, HVAC info and steering wheel control. However when I put my car into reverse, the head unit does not do anything at all. I tried swapping camera source plug into the AV-IN and the camera does have power and signal, but for some reason my head unit is not switching into reverse camera. Does anyone have any idea what I may be doing wrong?
Thank you
jfungy said:
Hello,
I am installing my head unit and everything Canbus related work, such as door open, HVAC info and steering wheel control. However when I put my car into reverse, the head unit does not do anything at all. I tried swapping camera source plug into the AV-IN and the camera does have power and signal, but for some reason my head unit is not switching into reverse camera. Does anyone have any idea what I may be doing wrong?
Thank you
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Ask seller/manufacturer....usually reverse signal comes from canbus.
Check your wires if reverse wire is connected to anywhere.
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ikerg said:
Ask seller/manufacturer....usually reverse signal comes from canbus.
Check your wires if reverse wire is connected to anywhere.
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Yup! I’ve asked them waiting for reply before I ask for a refund.
Hi what model do you have of stereo ?? To me the canbus does not work which you bought if you can mail the link thanks
Hello,
If you go on AliExpress and search Rav4 PX6 2016 it’s the only one.
Thank you
I went but canbus is not found, I took the kunfine px6 4gb 64gb
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I went but canbus is not found, I took the kunfine px6 4gb 64gb
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Did you connect the two wire cable with a 6 or 8 pin connector together? These two wires branch from the canbus to the “power” harness of the head unit
jfungy said:
Did you connect the two wire cable with a 6 or 8 pin connector together? These two wires branch from the canbus to the “power” harness of the head unit
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Hi from the canbus I have 6 connectors 5 that connect exactly to the cables of the machine the last one that is left is a 4-wire branch of the rear-view camera connector.
Did you hit a photo of when you placed it?
Venum83 said:
I went but canbus is not found, I took the kunfine px6 4gb 64gb
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Venum83 said:
Hi from the canbus I have 6 connectors 5 that connect exactly to the cables of the machine the last one that is left is a 4-wire branch of the rear-view camera connector.
Did you hit a photo of when you placed it?
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I’m talking about this small connector with 6 pins however it only has two wires (orange and green) and from the black plug it’s the female version of the 6 pin connector and it has blue and white wires. I believe this powers the canbus.
I’m still having issues figuring out how to trigger reverse. Have you had any success contacting Kunfine, the seller?
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I’m talking about this small connector with 6 pins however it only has two wires (orange and green) and from the black plug it’s the female version of the 6 pin connector and it has blue and white wires. I believe this powers the canbus.
I’m still having issues figuring out how to trigger reverse. Have you had any success contacting Kunfine, the seller?
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I wrote to him in these days but he replies with a pre-established message that in short says that because of the coronavirus they do not leave the house and therefore to be patient.
Anyway I understood which wires you talk about yes I connected them but nothing, my radio to connect the canbus connector has a female female reducer which serves on one side to the canbus and on the other the connector of the radio, I think there are wrong cables in this passage
I found the schematics of the 28 pin connector and I managed to make the rear view camera work for the steering wheel controls I will take more time to avoid damage
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I found the schematics of the 28 pin connector and I managed to make the rear view camera work for the steering wheel controls I will take more time to avoid damage
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Hello Venum83,
Would you be able to share how you got the camera to work? My camera physically has power and can output video when connected to AV-IN, but the head unit won’t go into reverse when I shift to R. Did you manage to solve that?
Thank you
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Venum83 said:
I found the schematics of the 28 pin connector and I managed to make the rear view camera work for the steering wheel controls I will take more time to avoid damage
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Hi Venum83,
Are you willing to share the solution that you applied?
thanks a lot
Had the exact same issue with my Kia Sorento, what I did to fix it was, take the Reverse Power cable that was not connected, and then added the power cable from the reverse camera, it worked like a charm, if you post pictures of your system I might be able to point it out for you. Took me less than 5 minutes. Same kunfine unit
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Had the exact same issue with my Kia Sorento, what I did to fix it was, take the Reverse Power cable that was not connected, and then added the power cable from the reverse camera, it worked like a charm, if you post pictures of your system I might be able to point it out for you. Took me less than 5 minutes. Same kunfine unit
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Hi thanks I solved it just like you say now the unit is perfect
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Hi thanks I solved it just like you say now the unit is perfect
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Hi, i have a youmecity T8 and also the unit does not trigger, i connected the brown (back) wire to camera positive and car reverse 13v. Camera light is triggered upon reverse, but no video signal to the unit. if the video is plugged into aux-in it works in sync with the reverse
Hi all, I have an Australian 2011 Kia Sportage Platinum model - I think it was SX / highest spec model in other countries. Apparently the Australian car in 2011 was a little unique in that it had a 6 stack CD but no sat nav on the head unit. There is a factory digital amp and sub woofer located in the rear. As much as I have attempted to get this fact across to suppliers on Aliexpress, I am sure they did not fully understand and have suggested I only need a CAMBUS and I am good to go.
As you can see with the pinout for my radio on connector A I have SPDIF ground, DN and DP. So it is a discrete signal to the amp that decodes what I assume is PCM and then sends it off to the speakers. I have a few questions:
1. Before I install the 7862 Unit, I will check voltage out from Pins 6 and 15 on my factory radio with sound on. I assume this will be less than 5 volts. as per SPDIF coax spec. I will then connect up the 7862 unit, plug in an RCA to the COAX SPDIF out and check voltage. If the wiring loom that I have been sent doesn't work, this COAX out feed fed into my car's wiring loom along with a 12v signal on pin 14 (remote AMP) will get me started. Any thoughts?
2. On Connector A of my original head unit, there are the SPDIF outs but why are there also speaker outs for front and rear left and right if there is a digital signal to the amp? Does this mean that the amp is only feeding the sub woofer and that the fronts and rears are fed directly from the head unit? It seems very strange to me.
3. PIN 9 on Connector A is DETENT. What is that? PIN 14 is Remote AMP. Is this a 12v line to wake up the amp?
4. Chinese Unit wiring shows a CANBUS but I am unsure is the CANBUS has an analog to digital converter? Can anyone shed light on this?
I appreciate any assistance you can offer.
This could help regarding SPDIF: https://www.gencoupe.com/threads/help-spdif-preamp-input-nav-premium.106094/
Are you sure the China head unit has an SPDIF output?
I think your OEM radio supports both. SPDIF and analog output. Or there is a cheaper variant available which only supports analog output. You don't need this connectors when using SPDIF.
I don't know Detent but in another forum they just ignored this pin.
Remote Amp is 12v signal for the amplifier. So you're right.
The canbus converts digital signals from your car to the radio. E.g. Translates the steering wheel buttons to a signal the head unit can interpret.
Hi, thanks for the link.
I am sure the chinese unit I purchased has SPDIF out via TOSLINK and coax but not through the main head unit wiring.
There definately is a cheaper model of my vehicle that didn't have a digital amp but I am suprised that there is both direct digital signal to the amp as well as direct wiring to the speakers. It is very confusing.
I understand CANBUS has a high and low signal but I wasn't sure if they specifically also change digital audio signals as well as well as the standard CAN signals.
I believe some CANBUS may handle both the CAN high / low transfer and have the ability to to convert the analog signal out of the android head unit to an SPDIF line level PCM (assumed) signal that my amp needs.
I guess this is not a common subject here. I might have to wait and do a fair bit of testing before I install.
Connecting a china head unit can be a real challenge, especially because there is zero support from the seller.
I've seen the amplifier has separate inputs for navigation voice (pin 9 and 23). Sorry for the German link:
Kia Sportage - Externer verstärker Bauteile und bauteile-Übersicht - AVN-System
Maybe some audio signals will be transferred analog. You could connect the new device without the analog audio connections to check if they are really required.
Can't help you regarding CANBUS but I hope you keep us updated and give some updates of your "project".
Maybe you're interested:
Junsun V1 MTK8259 - the adapter battle (Kia Ceed Jd) / OEM camera usage / reference thread
I bought the Junsun V1 head unit but my Kia Ceed JD had a OEM nav unit which isn't directly compatible to Junsun V1. So I re-wired the wiring harness based on the pins description of my original OEM navigation unit. I'm only modifying the wiring...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks again. The problem I have is that my head unit has SPDIF out, USB out rear cam out but all connected to the two white plugs. This unit seems different to all the US, Europe and other Asia models. It might be why I am getting so many blank stares.
I'm even having trouble finding an Australian edition of the wiring diagrams.
Your helpful link to the QL model German manual also has an SL model which is my model. Unfortunately my radio is not amongst the option in the manual. I see radios offer Sirrus so I am assuming that is a US model.
I might just need to go back to first principals and really understand my head unit before I do any installing. How is your install going?
My installation was a little tricky because I found three wringing diagrams which could be the correct one.
Fortunately all the wringing diagrams had ILLU and REVERSE on different positions so I was able to identify the correct one with a multimeter. But I wasn't able to find the wringing diagram with the model name of the device.
I have a Kia and finally the needed wiring diagram was from a Hiunday device. Someone crosslinked from a Kia forum to a Hiunday forum.
I had to completely re-wire and enhance the black plug of the China head unit because AUX and MIC are separate outputs on the China nav unit.
On the other side I had to remove USB from the black connector because this is a separate plug in the Kia.
For you the USB pins may are another good pins to check if the writing diagram is the right one.
I'm sure you already found this regarding the DETENT mystery:
Any radio wiring experts know what "Detent" leads are for?
Any radio wiring experts know what "Detent" leads are for?
grassrootsmotorsports.com
But I think DETENT is PARKING/HAND BREAK. So that's easy to verify.
TorstenH said:
I'm sure you already found this regarding the DETENT mystery:
But I think DETENT is PARKING/HAND BREAK. So that's easy to verify.
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I think there is still a little mystery for me, but I will work it out.
TorstenH said:
My installation was a little tricky because I found three wringing diagrams which could be the correct one.
Fortunately all the wringing diagrams had ILLU and REVERSE on different positions so I was able to identify the correct one with a multimeter.
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You were lucky to have the option to eliminate 2 of the 3 wiring diagrams. I will do the same before I start wiring the new HU.
For you the USB pins may are another good pins to check if the writing diagram is the right one.
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Yes, I will be doing a double check of everything.
I *think* that I have worked out why there is SPDIF line level + and - to the amp as well as wiring direct to the speakers from the factory HU.
I *think* that when I use and AUX input from USB or 3.5mm which is analog input, the factory headunit does no conversion and just amplifies the analog signal and sends it to the 4 main speakers. It will be simple to check this.
If I am correct, only CD and radio singal gets converted to digital line level SPDIF PCM then gets sent to the amp.
As my radio has a COAX SPDIF out, I might be able to make a single RCA to double RCA cable to send the signal to the amp. Or I might just patch in the SPDIF COAX RCA into the main ISO plug directly. I think having the COAX SPDIF out from my new HU will give me a lot more option.
I need to check if the CANBUS converts the analog signal to SPDIF line level or if the Chinese wiring just bypasses the amp and sub woofer or does something else again.
My new HU will arrive tomorrow of Monday so I will get time to study the wiring and make some checks. I will be sure to document all of the things I find. I just need to make the time to do it.
Well after a quick plug in and test, I am not getting any signal to amp regardless of how well I have followed the supplier's suggestions.
I think the standard signal to the amp id not happening so the amp is not waking up.
Canbus is for a 2015 Sportage but steering wheel options work with the volume working in opposite.
Will investigate more tomorrow.
Installed the radio today. The radio supplier's suggested installation did not work as I was sure it wouldn't.
After considering options, I chose to use the coax out and patch that into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) and everything worked fine.
Some things to note:
1. Canbus worked although the steering wheel volume controls are reversed. Not sure if that is easily changable. I might just live with it.
2.The supplier actually sent me quite a bit more than I was expecting. There were extra patch cables and an external mic. This was nice, but I actually bought a mic thinking that one did not come with the kit. It was only a few dollars though.
3.There is very little installation info. The info by way of photos I was sent did not match the cabling that I had.I would have liked to get an understanding of all the pin outs including the CANBUS but I am yet to receive this.
3. I actually removed my factory radio last night and just powered up the unit. I didn't realise that the default setting in the software is to only put the unit in standby or only turned off the screen. This drained my battery over about 18 hours. I needed a jump start to get the car going and I now have the battery on a trickle charge to repair it.
This default setting allows instant on for the radio. By changing to the option for a three second delay, the radio needs to boot on car starting.
4. Boot times are quick. I have not timed it yet, but I would guess 20 seconds. Bluetooth connection takes about another 20 seconds after that. I will make a video of it and more when I have used the unit a bit more.
5. The radio fascia brackets weren't installed properly. Just make sure to check them before you install. The screws really should be a bit longer to stop threading the fascia mounts.
6. The fascia is not a perfect match for my dash in colour but it still looks good. The fit is not perfect but good enough. I might remove the dash again tomorrow and just pack one side of the fascia so it is more flush fitting but it would only be 3-5mm.
All in all I am very satisfied. The response of the unit is great and sound quality seems good. Bluetooth and wireless connected well and a quick test of the 5ghz frequency wifi tethered to my phone gave 6mb/s when I was downloading the Waze app. I will test more soon.
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Installed the radio today. The radio supplier's suggested installation did not work as I was sure it wouldn't.
After considering options, I chose to use the coax out and patch that into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) and everything worked fine.
Some things to note:
1. Canbus worked although the steering wheel volume controls are reversed. Not sure if that is easily changable. I might just live with it.
2.The supplier actually sent me quite a bit more than I was expecting. There were extra patch cables and an external mic. This was nice, but I actually bought a mic thinking that one did not come with the kit. It was only a few dollars though.
3.There is very little installation info. The info by way of photos I was sent did not match the cabling that I had.I would have liked to get an understanding of all the pin outs including the CANBUS but I am yet to receive this.
3. I actually removed my factory radio last night and just powered up the unit. I didn't realise that the default setting in the software is to only put the unit in standby or only turned off the screen. This drained my battery over about 18 hours. I needed a jump start to get the car going and I now have the battery on a trickle charge to repair it.
This default setting allows instant on for the radio. By changing to the option for a three second delay, the radio needs to boot on car starting.
4. Boot times are quick. I have not timed it yet, but I would guess 20 seconds. Bluetooth connection takes about another 20 seconds after that. I will make a video of it and more when I have used the unit a bit more.
5. The radio fascia brackets weren't installed properly. Just make sure to check them before you install. The screws really should be a bit longer to stop threading the fascia mounts.
6. The fascia is not a perfect match for my dash in colour but it still looks good. The fit is not perfect but good enough. I might remove the dash again tomorrow and just pack one side of the fascia so it is more flush fitting but it would only be 3-5mm.
All in all I am very satisfied. The response of the unit is great and sound quality seems good. Bluetooth and wireless connected well and a quick test of the 5ghz frequency wifi tethered to my phone gave 6mb/s when I was downloading the Waze app. I will test more soon.
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To 1: Isn't there a setting in Android car menu where you can assign the buttons to specific functions?
To 3: same topic here. I can set Sleep to on or off. But can't set time how long to sleep before shutdown.
TorstenH said:
To 1: Isn't there a setting in Android car menu where you can assign the buttons to specific functions?
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There is that function and I did try to use it. I was long pressing on the physical button before pressing the on screen as suggested but there was no change. I assumed the button remap is only useful for non Canbus driven buttons. I could be wrong, though.
To 3: same topic here. I can set Sleep to on or off. But can't set time how long to sleep before shutdown.
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I too would like a full understanding of the sleep function. Things like when sleep starts, when shut down starts etc would be useful.
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Some things to note:
1. Canbus worked although the steering wheel volume controls are reversed. Not sure if that is easily changable. I might just live with it.
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I hope you got this sorted. If not, have you tried this?
ludditefornow said:
After considering options, I chose to use the coax out and patch that into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) and everything worked fine.
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I Installed in my SL Sportage Platinum today and have no sound and no reversing camera. Do you have a photo of how you wired from the SPDIF on the unit to the factory connector?
Did you keep the factory camera? If so, what did you do to get these working? I think my unit is slightly different as I don't have the small clock.
Storrsy said:
I Installed in my SL Sportage Platinum today and have no sound and no reversing camera. Do you have a photo of how you wired from the SPDIF on the unit to the factory connector?
Did you keep the factory camera? If so, what did you do to get these working? I think my unit is slightly different as I don't have the small clock.
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Did you use the coax out method? The Kia amp requires am PCM digital signal sent on two wires as mentioned above.
Get an RCA male male cable. Cut on end and strip until you see two bare wires. These bare wires will patch into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) of your car's wiring loom. These are the wires to the amp.
Add this male connector end of the RCA cable into the RCA digital out on the head unit. Check for sound.
My reversing camera is built into my rear view mirror so the wiring is not connected to the radio. And yes, I found the switch for volume, but thanks for letting me know. It might help someone else.
ludditefornow said:
Did you use the coax out method? The Kia amp requires am PCM digital signal sent on two wires as mentioned above.
Get an RCA male male cable. Cut on end and strip until you see two bare wires. These bare wires will patch into Connector A pin 6 (SPDIF DN) and pin 15 (SPDIF DP) of your car's wiring loom. These are the wires to the amp.
Add this male connector end of the RCA cable into the RCA digital out on the head unit. Check for sound.
My reversing camera is built into my rear view mirror so the wiring is not connected to the radio. And yes, I found the switch for volume, but thanks for letting me know. It might help someone else.
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Success!!! I was able to get the amp working thanks to this thread. I was also able to get the camera working by splicing the 'unused' green reverse wire from the supplied harness to the brown reverse signal wire in the CANBUS connection. (I noted that in the some of the offical images the wire was pink.)
Peeps, did you have to connect the remote amp (12v positive?) or SPDIF ground (12v negative?) I’m almost there just no sound.. I’ve connected coax out to pins 6&15 but nothing
From the modifed coax cable coming out of your head unit, what voltage are you getting on either wire when playing audio?
If you aren't getting a signal, then there is a software setting (that I can't think of right now) or another issue.
And I have not connected the remote amp wire. Clear photos help a lot if you have followup questions.
Zero volts
Then the headunit is not passing a signal to the spdif RCA out for some reason
Hello its possibile help for visualization rear camera video with ownice k7 . I have installed in renault kadjar with ISO cable and canbus but rear camera dont start when i insert rear gear thanks
This is also the case with me! Today I installed the Ownice K7 radio. It is a big disappointment that there is no picture of the reversing camera. Are we doing something wrong?
Fonda53 said:
This is also the case with me! Today I installed the Ownice K7 radio. It is a big disappointment that there is no picture of the reversing camera. Are we doing something wrong?
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Toyota C-HR hybrid is my car, if that's interesting.
no in my opinion the 32pin iso cable where the original rear camera cable passes is not well wired because I saw that there is no power to the rear camera. we have to find the problem and solve it. if you succeed let me know how you solved.
sergente78 said:
no in my opinion the 32pin iso cable where the original rear camera cable passes is not well wired because I saw that there is no power to the rear camera. we have to find the problem and solve it. if you succeed let me know how you solved.
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I haven't had any results yet. Maybe you should try pairing the canbus first. It installs an extra app with car setup options.
But I have tried in vain so far, there are too many choices. Although I found my car on one of the models, I didn't get the picture of the reversing camera.
The seller's response today is:
"Did you connect the Cam in port on our power cable to the Rear camera input port on RCA cable."
Of course there is no RCA, there is a canbus.
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I haven't had any results yet. Maybe you should try pairing the canbus first. It installs an extra app with car setup options.
But I have tried in vain so far, there are too many choices. Although I found my car on one of the models, I didn't get the picture of the reversing camera.
The seller's response today is:
"Did you connect the Cam in port on our power cable to the Rear camera input port on RCA cable."
Of course there is no RCA, there is a canbus.
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Maybe that's the solution?
I did it, but nothing happened ...
There are two CAM IN RCA connectors on the POWER harness. I tried both, although nothing from the factory radio is connected to one of its pin connectors.
Hi, is your hu with 360? If so, then k7 will use the 360 cam instead of your existing cam. The reverse cam will only work if 360 app is not running. Try restarting the hu while in reverse. Then as the hu boots the reverse cam will show at for a few seconds.
If hu did not come with 360, then check the reverse cam type.
The rca connector is in B harness not power. It is brown color. Then if you have canbus, it should be automatic. Make sure your reverse cam is terminated properly ie. Power and ground.
i have TEST YOUR SOLUTION, i don't have 360 camera , i have CANBUS WITH BROWN CABLE but i when insert rerar gear not appear. if i open app for vision cam the message is NOT SIGNAL.
i have test at connecting at aftermarket cam and i see image in app. where is the problem of my original cam??
----How to Connect & Use Front & Rear Camera for K7_C970
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Kyppeter said:
Hi, is your hu with 360? If so, then k7 will use the 360 cam instead of your existing cam. The reverse cam will only work if 360 app is not running. Try restarting the hu while in reverse. Then as the hu boots the reverse cam will show at for a few seconds.
If hu did not come with 360, then check the reverse cam type.
The rca connector is in B harness not power. It is brown color. Then if you have canbus, it should be automatic. Make sure your reverse cam is terminated properly ie. Power and ground.
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No, there is no 360. But only part of the problem is that there is no reversing camera image!
Unfortunately, nothing works about CANBUS, only the left side of the steering control.
The seller also sent a picture of the camera connection. I repackaged the radio, checked it, everything is as pictured! It also sent about CANBUS type selection, but it is.
No door opening, no radar, no air conditioning, nothing ... Who doesn't have a reversing camera, do the other things work?
I have write to winlink ownice and the result is the camera original not work and seller send me a camera sony! When arrive i test
The problem for me is in the canbus decoder not support rear camera original. Because the original camera is 6v but radio send 12v
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The problem for me is in the canbus decoder not support rear camera original. Because the original camera is 6v but radio send 12v
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Considered installing a voltage regulator and using the factory camera, like for Toyota models?
The knockoff won't be a Sony...
marchnz said:
Considered installing a voltage regulator and using the factory camera, like for Toyota models?
The knockoff won't be a Sony...
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For me, Toyota C-HR hybrid is my car. Unfortunately, nothing works about the CAN BUS, not just the factory reversing camera. But I think the Toyota camera is 12V. Now I’m there for the seller to contact the engineer to see if the smooth and hybrid CHR require the same CAN BUS. (There is a different type of hybrid in the Factory menu.)
Today i have test some solution but not work. I have connect rca cable cam at other rca radio connector VIDEO OUT and the video of rear camera when I open apk AUX is work!!! But if I connect to rear camera rca and positive on pin 4 radio back the cam enter in rear vision but not see image. Repeat i connect rca cable cam to AUX VIDEO and red wire Cam ON positive and image work good but I connect rear cam rca at RCA CAM INPUT OF RADIO and red wire at pin. N4 of radio the display on the rear camera but not image!!!! Help for me
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I have write to winlink ownice and the result is the camera original not work and seller send me a camera sony! When arrive i test
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Has the promised camera arrived? Now they promised me one too. I hope this already works, although I would have preferred the original to work!
Funny mixture of topics here.
You need +12 V on the reverse cable of your head unit as soon as you in reverse gear. This is just to tell the hu that you're in reverse. You can grab the reverse signal from can bus box or from the wiring harness of your car. Use a multimeter to verify if you get the 12 V. Search for the pin description of the original OEM radio.
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Funny mixture of topics here.
You need +12 V on the reverse cable of your head unit as soon as you in reverse gear. This is just to tell the hu that you're in reverse. You can grab the reverse signal from can bus box or from the wiring harness of your car. Use a multimeter to verify if you get the 12 V. Search for the pin description of the original OEM radio.
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I have connect +12v at my rear camera but when inseet rear gear start camera but not video, if I connect camera at 12v battery camera work good !
Hi, New to the site and a greyhead who knows nothing about the electronics of these things. I installed a Navitree Y1E Android 11 4core 2+32GB Car DVD player for Ford Focus 2 2004-2011 audio for car video AM FM RDS 4G WIFI BT in my 201 Ford Focus. All appeared well as fitting was easy. All looked great and now I have found there is a constant live feed to the unit that is the possibe cause of a flat battery. My son is a mechanic and accepts he is not electronically knowledgeable, but he tested the wires and found a Yellow wire that was live and for memory, but there was a red wire that was permantly live and should be a switch feed. Can anyone advise if they have had experience with this model (Direct from China) and what is happening? Appreciate any help.
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Hi, New to the site and a greyhead who knows nothing about the electronics of these things. I installed a Navitree Y1E Android 11 4core 2+32GB Car DVD player for Ford Focus 2 2004-2011 audio for car video AM FM RDS 4G WIFI BT in my 201 Ford Focus. All appeared well as fitting was easy. All looked great and now I have found there is a constant live feed to the unit that is the possibe cause of a flat battery. My son is a mechanic and accepts he is not electronically knowledgeable, but he tested the wires and found a Yellow wire that was live and for memory, but there was a red wire that was permantly live and should be a switch feed. Can anyone advise if they have had experience with this model (Direct from China) and what is happening? Appreciate any help.
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Hi Guys asnyone able to help. No help from supplier and looks like I will have to ditch the headunit..
Why would you ditch the head unit? It needs the permanent power on the yellow wire and a switched feed on the red wire. Your vehicle is currently not providing this so either you have wired the unit to the wrong feed or there currently isn't one so you'd need to find a connection in the vehicle which does switch with the key and run it to the red wire. As the red wire is only a sensing input it doesn't need heavy wiring.
It is not a head unit fault.
Note some vehicles supply the switching information to the stock head unit via the CANbus, yours may be like that and would explain the lack of a switched feed at present but you can easily overcome this.
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Why would you ditch the head unit? It needs the permanent power on the yellow wire and a switched feed on the red wire. Your vehicle is currently not providing this so either you have wired the unit to the wrong feed or there currently isn't one so you'd need to find a connection in the vehicle which does switch with the key and run it to the red wire. As the red wire is only a sensing input it doesn't need heavy wiring.
It is not a head unit fault.
Note some vehicles supply the switching information to the stock head unit via the CANbus, yours may be like that and would explain the lack of a switched feed at present but you can easily overcome this.
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Mr.TT_NZThanks for replying..appreciate comments..The red wire is going into the canbus via a 20 pin connector if it is cut the problem seems solved, so are you saying that I should have a switch cable run to that? See image for wiring.
Ah so you do have a CANbus module, I believe there are some issues with switching via those modules but I've never had one to play with.
You could try removing the red wire from the CANbus module and connecting a switched feed to it instead (not as well as) so the head unit only gets its switch control from your new wire. Maybe that CANbus module is not exactly correct for your model of car, there are so many variations even within a certain model that it is hard to see how the people who write the software for the modules can keep up with all of them.
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Ah so you do have a CANbus module, I believe there are some issues with switching via those modules but I've never had one to play with.
You could try removing the red wire from the CANbus module and connecting a switched feed to it instead (not as well as) so the head unit only gets its switch control from your new wire. Maybe that CANbus module is not exactly correct for your model of car, there are so many variations even within a certain model that it is hard to see how the people who write the software for the modules can keep up with all of them.
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Thanks again. I will try this...did a bit off research on the canbus and there is no UK retailer who will sell me a Ford canbus and guarantee it will work! Most said it would be a sale with no return.. Hey Ho..