I am sure this has been discussed on here but I decided to make a new thread anyways. It's nice to get direct support. Anyways....
My Nexus player will not wake from sleep. I watch TV at night before bed. My Nexus Player is currently hooked up to my JVC 32" 1080P TV in my bedroom. So I set the sleep on my TV at night so it shuts off in 60 mins or so. When I wake up the next day, turn my TV on, I get "No Signal". I hit every button on the Nexus player remote. It will not respond. I have to unplug the power and plug it back in to get it to work again. Why will it not wake?
I really liked the Nexus Player at first. I prefer it over my previous streamers, especially being I am going for the new Nexus 5 or 6 upon release this year. I previously used an Apple TV Gen 3. I am bored with Apple and that is why I replaced my Apple TV with the Nexus player and I am replacing my iPhone 6 with a future Nexus device. All done with boring old apple. HaHa.
Any fix to the non-wake issue? What if I just Root it, Unlock the Bootloader, and install CM12? Does CM12.1 for the Nexus Player have the not wake from sleep issue? Thank you for looking!
It's more likely that the HDMI connection on the TV side has died than that the NP is still in sleep, as clicking any button on the remote will wake it. Try just replugging the HDMI cable next time to test.
Do you have HDMI-CEC on that TV, and is it enabled (it might be called something else)? In which case you could try using your TV remote instead.
The TV is brand new. Both HDMI ports work fine. I had no issues with an Apple TV or Fire TV stick. Both woke from sleep just fine even after a day or so of no use.
My TV does have CEC. I guess I could give that a shot?
Maybe I should just exchange it and see if the new one still has issues?
Sorry, I see the word "died" may have been misinterpreted. Before going through the inconvenience of getting it replaced, I'd first do as suggested: try unplugging then replugging the HDMI cable next time the connection fails to force a resync.
Another way of testing whether the NP has actually come out of sleep - even if you can't see anything displayed on your TV - is to see whether it pops up as a device to cast to from any app that supports casting - try YouTube.
Then at least you'll have more information about the root causes of your issue.
It does appear to be my TV that is the issue. When I unplug the HDMI and plug it back in the Nexus Player screen comes right on, where I had left off. Stupid JVC.... lol. I wanted a 32" TV for the bedroom that was not a smart TV and had a good picture with decent sound. I ended up buying this JVC 32" 1080P Full Array LED TV for only $200. I took a shot buying it online and I was amazed to see the display quality and hear the sound quality! I have had no issues with it at all and love it! But of COURSE there had to be something wacky on it! lol. But yeah, its the TV not the Nexus Player. I am hoping to find some kind of fix or work around for it. I have no problem unplugging the hdmi and plugging it back in but doing that non stop is not for the best in my opinion. I don't want to end up wareing out/breaking the HDMI port on my TV or Nexus Player.
I'm experiencing this same issue with my Samsung TV. Another thread suggests the solution is to disable CEC on your TV.
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It does appear to be my TV that is the issue. When I unplug the HDMI and plug it back in the Nexus Player screen comes right on, where I had left off. Stupid JVC.... lol. I wanted a 32" TV for the bedroom that was not a smart TV and had a good picture with decent sound. I ended up buying this JVC 32" 1080P Full Array LED TV for only $200. I took a shot buying it online and I was amazed to see the display quality and hear the sound quality! I have had no issues with it at all and love it! But of COURSE there had to be something wacky on it! lol. But yeah, its the TV not the Nexus Player. I am hoping to find some kind of fix or work around for it. I have no problem unplugging the hdmi and plugging it back in but doing that non stop is not for the best in my opinion. I don't want to end up wareing out/breaking the HDMI port on my TV or Nexus Player.
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try changing the 'input' on your JVC tv for a few seconds, then changing it back to the nexus player's input. For ex turn TV on, switch from HDMI 1 to HDMI 2, wait 5sec then back to 1 and see if it registers the NP. Just an idea.
I got an RK8 box and runs great with my 4k TV. Exception being HDMI. When I turn on the RK8, it will not display on my TV. I have to unplug the HDMI from the box and plug it back in and than it will work. Is there a setting that I'm missing?
It's plugged into my HDMI port on the LG for 2.0. The TV also recognizes it as an HDMI 2.0 devices and switches the tv to 10bit colour on that port. Only issue is unplugging and plugging back in the HDMI cable to it to show.
Hi Kevin. Have had the RK8 for a couple of months now, and after the first couple of weeks using it on my Samsung UE65JU6070, I can no longer switch it on with my remote (switching off works fine), thus I have gotten used to unplug/replug the power cord. Maybe it's the same issue you're experiencing? I'll check tonight if unplugging/replugging the HDMI cable does the same trick for me as the power cord.
Can I ask, what is your experience in playing 4K youtube video's? It seems mine is very reluctant to do so (doesn't work on the youtube app, and only sporadically using a webbrowser).
Otherwise I agree with you .... it is a great box which seems to run very stable without any overheating issues etc. ..... and having upgraded KODI to 15.2 means I no longer have any stability issues there either (NB: if you do this update, you need to uninstall the pre-installed KODI 14 first .... so remember to save your settings etc.).
Just a last comment. At 70 USD this seems to me to be great value ..... I'm surprised it's so difficult to find other people on the Internet who have experience with this box ....
Best regards Mogens
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Hi Kevin. Have had the RK8 for a couple of months now, and after the first couple of weeks using it on my Samsung UE65JU6070, I can no longer switch it on with my remote (switching off works fine), thus I have gotten used to unplug/replug the power cord. Maybe it's the same issue you're experiencing? I'll check tonight if unplugging/replugging the HDMI cable does the same trick for me as the power cord.
Can I ask, what is your experience in playing 4K youtube video's? It seems mine is very reluctant to do so (doesn't work on the youtube app, and only sporadically using a webbrowser).
Otherwise I agree with you .... it is a great box which seems to run very stable without any overheating issues etc. ..... and having upgraded KODI to 15.2 means I no longer have any stability issues there either (NB: if you do this update, you need to uninstall the pre-installed KODI 14 first .... so remember to save your settings etc.).
Just a last comment. At 70 USD this seems to me to be great value ..... I'm surprised it's so difficult to find other people on the Internet who have experience with this box ....
Best regards Mogens
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I have no remote/power issues. Just issue with it showing on my tv. It powers up and won't display. TV see's that HDMI3 has power but does not show unless I unplug/plug the HDMI cord in the box.
I don't use youtube on this box. Just Kodi.
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I have no remote/power issues. Just issue with it showing on my tv. It powers up and won't display. TV see's that HDMI3 has power but does not show unless I unplug/plug the HDMI cord in the box.
I don't use youtube on this box. Just Kodi.
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Hi again Kevin. Since my last post, it has happend 3 - 4 times that I've experienced your issue of "black screen", but for me it has come out of the blue. Picture comes back when unplugging and replugging the HDMI cable just as you say. I was wondering if you have gotten any closer to find a solution?
Pls be aware that I tried to update to Kodi Jarvis (16.0) release, but went back to 15.2 due to an issue with menu text being "corrupted", which required each time starting Kodi to go and change the font. Allegedly it's an issue related to HDMI as well, so I'm wondering if there is some "glitch" in the box' HDMI implementation (HW or FW).
I'm sure you have tried already, but if not, have you tried to move the HDMI cable to another input on the TV? Do you have some configuration possibilities with the HDMI inputs on the TV ... if yes, maybe play around with those.
Small quirks ... but I have to say that for USD 60, this is still an amazing box even if I still cannot power it on with any remote (but power off works fine with all remotes).
Best regards Mogens
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Hi again Kevin. Since my last post, it has happend 3 - 4 times that I've experienced your issue of "black screen", but for me it has come out of the blue. Picture comes back when unplugging and replugging the HDMI cable just as you say. I was wondering if you have gotten any closer to find a solution?
Pls be aware that I tried to update to Kodi Jarvis (16.0) release, but went back to 15.2 due to an issue with menu text being "corrupted", which required each time starting Kodi to go and change the font. Allegedly it's an issue related to HDMI as well, so I'm wondering if there is some "glitch" in the box' HDMI implementation (HW or FW).
I'm sure you have tried already, but if not, have you tried to move the HDMI cable to another input on the TV? Do you have some configuration possibilities with the HDMI inputs on the TV ... if yes, maybe play around with those.
Small quirks ... but I have to say that for USD 60, this is still an amazing box even if I still cannot power it on with any remote (but power off works fine with all remotes).
Best regards Mogens
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I haven't had time to work with it to be honest. I think its a poor HDMI 2.0 design on the box. I still have the issue and just yesterday, my Kodi updated to 16 and I get the same issue as you with the block lettering which I haven't tried to fix as yet. Thanks for sharing changing of the font.
Reason I suspect its the unit and not tv, is because sometimes when it does not display on my tv. The tv gives a pop up indicating "The device connected does not support 10 bit deep colour". Then I unplug and plug and it goes away.
Hopefully I can get sometime to fiddle with it more and see how it can be resolved.
Have you tried to see if there is a software update? The update option on my box does not even work. I wonder if we both got knock offs or just duds.
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I haven't had time to work with it to be honest. I think its a poor HDMI 2.0 design on the box. I still have the issue and just yesterday, my Kodi updated to 16 and I get the same issue as you with the block lettering which I haven't tried to fix as yet. Thanks for sharing changing of the font.
Reason I suspect its the unit and not tv, is because sometimes when it does not display on my tv. The tv gives a pop up indicating "The device connected does not support 10 bit deep colour". Then I unplug and plug and it goes away.
Hopefully I can get sometime to fiddle with it more and see how it can be resolved.
Have you tried to see if there is a software update? The update option on my box does not even work. I wonder if we both got knock offs or just duds.
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Hi Kevin,
The box is made by Acemax, and there is no FW update since the original (believe the one it's shipped with is dated 30. sep 2015 ...but that's from memory as I'm at work). I don't think it's a knock off, but I do think it's a "standard" board which is basically put into a plastic cabinet, where the only difference to identical spec products (like the Xidoo X6 Pro) is the location of the USB ports. It seems it uses exactly the same components as that one and others similar to it ... however, Acemax do seem to have FW updates for other products they've made on their homepage, so ... who knows. If somebody is brave and skillful enough, such person may even try at install a FW from f.ex. the Xidoo box ... but I'm afraid that's not me (not due to lack of bravery, but ... skill!!). With that being said, I believe my issue with having to unplug/replug the power cord once per day is something I can live with easily (and it has worked, so it may be a question of resetting the box, which I frankly am to lazy to do!!), so .... I guess looking at such small quirks and comparing them to the overall usability of the box, then the trade-off is not too bad.
A quick view on a couple of threads for similar boxes (f.ex. the Xidoo) would seem to indicate that some of their users are having issues that makes ours "luxury problems" in comparison.
Anyway, I'll keep you updated if I stumble over something useful .... and would appreciate if you do the same.
P.S. A "clever" streaming guy has told me that the best Kodi version in terms of stability for live TV streaming still is Helix .... although I'm quite happy with Isenguard (got too tired of the font changing thing on Jarvis, so I re-installed Isenguard). I'm more or less only using mine for streaming HD channels (mostly UK Sky / BT sports) for EPL, and it works fantastic.
I found a weird solution for the unplug issue! When I turn on the box and my tv is on the hdmi port. I turn the tv off and turn it back on and the box displays. Tried this a few times and it worked.
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Hi Kevin,
The box is made by Acemax, and there is no FW update since the original (believe the one it's shipped with is dated 30. sep 2015 ...but that's from memory as I'm at work). I don't think it's a knock off, but I do think it's a "standard" board which is basically put into a plastic cabinet, where the only difference to identical spec products (like the Xidoo X6 Pro) is the location of the USB ports. It seems it uses exactly the same components as that one and others similar to it ... however, Acemax do seem to have FW updates for other products they've made on their homepage, so ... who knows. If somebody is brave and skillful enough, such person may even try at install a FW from f.ex. the Xidoo box ... but I'm afraid that's not me (not due to lack of bravery, but ... skill!!). With that being said, I believe my issue with having to unplug/replug the power cord once per day is something I can live with easily (and it has worked, so it may be a question of resetting the box, which I frankly am to lazy to do!!), so .... I guess looking at such small quirks and comparing them to the overall usability of the box, then the trade-off is not too bad.
A quick view on a couple of threads for similar boxes (f.ex. the Xidoo) would seem to indicate that some of their users are having issues that makes ours "luxury problems" in comparison.
Anyway, I'll keep you updated if I stumble over something useful .... and would appreciate if you do the same.
P.S. A "clever" streaming guy has told me that the best Kodi version in terms of stability for live TV streaming still is Helix .... although I'm quite happy with Isenguard (got too tired of the font changing thing on Jarvis, so I re-installed Isenguard). I'm more or less only using mine for streaming HD channels (mostly UK Sky / BT sports) for EPL, and it works fantastic.
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Not sure if you saw my last note about the power. I've also figured out more about this box. It has a rockchip which is one of the worst to use. Kodi does not support that chip fully, hence the weird text when launched. We have to stick with the preload or, I've read some place to download the "X86" apk from the kodi site. Also, I tested my box on a regular 1080p tv with hdmi 1.4. And the issues of it not displaying right away, are eliminated which lead me to believe the hdmi 2.0 in this box is poorly designed.
I'm probably going to use this box in my room and get a box with an Amlogic chip for 4k as those are the better boxes to have and more support is offered.
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Not sure if you saw my last note about the power. I've also figured out more about this box. It has a rockchip which is one of the worst to use. Kodi does not support that chip fully, hence the weird text when launched. We have to stick with the preload or, I've read some place to download the "X86" apk from the kodi site. Also, I tested my box on a regular 1080p tv with hdmi 1.4. And the issues of it not displaying right away, are eliminated which lead me to believe the hdmi 2.0 in this box is poorly designed.
I'm probably going to use this box in my room and get a box with an Amlogic chip for 4k as those are the better boxes to have and more support is offered.
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Hi Kevin,
I just now saw your other post about the power .... I tried that myself, but to no avail.
I'm not sure you're right about the Rockchip being one of the worst technically, but in terms of support (official and un-official) you're right.
However, since I use my box for watching IP TV, I can live with using Kodi 15.2. I've tried the Kodi 17 dev version, and it has the same issue with garbled text as Kodi 16.
The Kodi x86.apk cannot be installed on our box .... I tried yesterday, but I guess it is for an Intel based android solution.
In terms of HDMI 2.0 implementation, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not perfectly implemented .... not sure if HDCP 2.2 also plays a role.
Anyway, at the end of the day you get what you pay for .... and since I paid USD 65 for my box, I have to say I feel I got a lot of value for money, despite it's few quirks .... and as a friend of mine always says; what kind of life would it be without complaints
Best regards Mogens
Hi again Kevin,
The family being out for Saturday shopping, I spent a little time with my afternoon coffee on the computer.
You are right, that KODI do not support the RK3368 SoC, as the manufacturer does not comply with Android standards, which necessitates that standard KODI is "hacked" to work perfectly with this chip .... something the KODI development community naturally does not want to do.
However, it seems the manufacturer Zidoo whose Z6 box is based on the same SoC, has showed some good customer service, and actually created a ZDMC app, which is basically KODI 16 with a few modifications for RK3368.
I downloaded their firmware for the Z6 box, and extracted the ZDMC apk from there and installed it on my RK8 box ..... and albeit I've only tested it shortly, it works beautifully with no issues so far. Apart from not having garbled menu text, it also seems like it's actually able to make 4K output (the standard KODI irrespective of versions only seemed to be able to show FHD, but would in turn show a refresh rate of twice the actual .... too techincal for me!).
Long story short, if you want to test it out, I've uploaded the above apk to Mega with the download link below.
https://mega.nz/#!TR1SEByC
Encryption key needed: !kN-15aGvZljVdKEus9LT7NxCYjqnthR8bbaYD_YfhiQ
Let me know if it works for you and/or if you find anything. Also let me know if the download link doesn't work.
Enjoy your weekend!
Best regards Mogens
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Not sure if you saw my last note about the power. I've also figured out more about this box. It has a rockchip which is one of the worst to use. Kodi does not support that chip fully, hence the weird text when launched. We have to stick with the preload or, I've read some place to download the "X86" apk from the kodi site. Also, I tested my box on a regular 1080p tv with hdmi 1.4. And the issues of it not displaying right away, are eliminated which lead me to believe the hdmi 2.0 in this box is poorly designed.
I'm probably going to use this box in my room and get a box with an Amlogic chip for 4k as those are the better boxes to have and more support is offered.
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Hi again Kevin,
Just a last comment this time around. I've now used the above mentioned RK3368 "modified" version of Kodi 16, and I have to say it is extremely stable and works better on the RK8 than Kodi 15.2.
If you have a chance, try it out. Given the very, very limited 4K material out there, I hope this box should be able to carry me through the next couple of years until availability of material as well as new compression methods become available.
Best regards Mogens
Hi All,
I received my new unit VL 131N2 (Intel 2GB 9 Inch VW unit) for VW Passat 2012 B7 Kombiwagen and few preliminary thoughts on it if it helps others :
Ordering Process and unpacking :
Placing the order was a breeze and got a 7% discount on the unit totalling to 303 Euro from Germany warehouse. Unit was shipped next day and was at my door step in 2 days.
Unit was shipped with relevant cables as outlined and nothing was damaged or broken. Good packaging !! There were 2 radio cables and i have no idea why. Anyways in short everything went good.
Installation :
To replace the unit with my existing RNS310 unit took hardly 10 minutes after i studied the cables and connected them. However routing the 2 USB cables to Glove box took more than 2 hours as i struggled
to route it via small ducts in my Passat. My hands were swollen trying to reach the cable via those small openings ! In the end i used a kitchen utensil with hook in the end to pull the cable
Another difficulty i found was tucking away all those cables behind the head unit ! Due to the additional CAN bus and GPS cable etc, i had to literally push the cables with force since there wasnt much room
behind the head unit holder and the cables were stiff. All in all , i was satisfied with the fit and finish of the unit. It is worth the money !!
Initial Impression :
For 300 euro chinese unit, i have to admit it is built solid and the casing is very sturdy. The cables are strong enough and seems robust. The screen is glossy and seems responsive enough. However not close to
the sensitivity of an actual nexus tablet or anything but good enough for a car head unit. The very first boot was just few seconds and subsequent boots are also fast (since it is in standby mode).
I was shipped the unit with December firmware and home screen looks untidy. I will do the firmware upgrade and replace the home screen with " Car launcher Pro " which seems very nice.
Google Play service crashed couple of times when i was trying to open Google maps, i think i will also update the play services. Now for some Pro's and Con's :
Pros :
Solid build , 9 inch real estate , responsive enough screen , fast installation , perfect fit (mine was VW specific unit) , fast launch of apps , no lag between apps, plenty of memory to have both Navi and music
simultaneously, 128GB USB drive support, Sound quality seems on par with OEM, Steering wheel control support
Cons :
Screen color calibration is awful !! The whites are so white that it looks washed out when i load Google maps or applications with light UI --> Any fix for this ? Searched the forum but couldn't find anything. Can i use " Screen Calibrators " from play store ? Do i need to be rooted ?
Park Assist Sensor support --> The front and rear sensors are supported but the " visualization " of CAN bus data is ****ty. The image only appears if there is actual obstacle else it goes back to home screen even if the reverse gear is engaged. The visualization keeps popping up whenever there is CAN bus data and this is extremely annoying. Will inform Joying about this and hope they fix it by retaining the image as long as reverse gear is engaged
Delays and design of on screen information --> The color of the Climatronic , Door open information information is bad. It is orange and looks ugly with overlay. Wish there was an option to change it to Black
The information takes some seconds (2-3) to appear on screen which is not good. Anyways hope the new firmware has fixed at least some issues.
Things yet to check :
Bluetooth call quality, Software tweaks viz. replace music app with poweramp, rooting , Home screen change etc etc.
Anyways hope this post helps in case somebody is purchasing this unit for VW Passat and thanks to this forum which gave me lot of information about these Chinese units
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Hi,
nice review,
I also bought this unit, I'm not sure but I think you can change colors in settings (not the Android settings, it's the joying settings app, I can't remember the name at the moment)
I agree with the terrible can-Bus information visualization, so I disabled it (root necessary)
At last I can say, if you buy this item from Germany, you can get it on ebay for about 280€ via price request (maybe cheaper?)