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Hi Folks, Firstly I know I have been very stupid. Please don't make me feel worse than I already do. I have read through this board and after feeling like I was about to give in trying to fix my Chinese GPS I have a bit of hope. I bought the unit as working from ebay and decided (stupidly) to flash Mio Pocket after a guy on a car forum sung its praises. I initially meant to run from the sd to test but I accidentally clicked install and it did its thing then froze on reboot. After rebooting it was just stuck on the screen saying Welcome to Navigation. I have measured my screen, it seems to be 6.5" measured diagonally
I found a chinese site and have tried all the firmware on there, it all seems to restore my original GPS side of the software but the screen is the wrong resolution and too low on the screen. I can just about calibrate it by poking my nail down the bezel for the lower calibration points but then when I select the navigation source selection screen I cant see the files as they are off to the left (off screen) I tried using the remote to no avail. I have also tried the 117_nav_en.exe floating around on the internet which again seems to be the right software but the wrong resolution. My problem is that I bought the unit off ebay and I don't know the brand or model number to contact support. Neither does the seller unfortunately (it was used)
The unit is for a Skoda / VW it has GPS, BT, TV Tuner, 2 x sd slots (one for nav one for media) and an iphone input on the front. It has the car door open indicator pictures etc and the non ce side of things is still working fine.
I am reasonably confident that the firmware I have tried so far is for bigger screens than my 6.5" and hopefully if I can find a firmware version for this size I should be ok.
I have included an image of how it currently looks
I really hope someone can help me
Thanks for reading
Hi guys
I'm hoping to get some help from you with deciding head unit for my Ford S-Max. I'm doing a research about it but still a bit confused.
I have few units I'm looking at,
1. Ford specific Joying - JY-FL124N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
2. Universal Joying - JY-UL135N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
3. Ford specyfic Xtrons - PF75QSFAP-S ( Android 5.1 Lollipop 64 Bit Operating System Quad Core )
4. Ford specyfic Xtrons - PCD76QSFA-S ( Android 6.0 Marshmallow quad core Cortex A7 )
5. Ford specyfic Xtrons - PF70FSFS-S ( 800MHZ Cortex A7 Processor and latest WinCE6.0 )
I'm really into buying ford specific Joying with SoFIA, i was reading about it and plenty of people suggest to buy this one and all seems good but there is one big minus of it, there is no DVD slot (which isn't a problem) the problem is with 2 NOT working buttons 'eject cd' and 'dvd' which is very annoying and taking up the space... I've asked support if there is a chance to reuse (re-programme) those buttons for something else but got no response about that.
Anyway I like the Universal Joying unit the most, one volume knob, few buttons, looks much better then ford specific ones but there is a problem with wiring, its needed to get the harness etc from other source and whats worst connect all that to be working, steering wheels controls are the most stressful for me, and need to get some dash kit for installation. So I will end up with a frame in a frame (unit itself), so it will be very visible that this is a after market unit.
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If you have any other suggestions please dont hesitate to say.
This will be used mostly for youtube, some movies for my kids, playing music from my phone (Xperia Z3), making calls, using internet from my phone or hotspots, navigation (probably google maps as i like them the most). I also want to get the rear camera with it
Any ideas welccome, thanks!
R
What year is your S-max? For the newer ones (post 2011or so) it's hard to change the OEM unit because the airco controls are integrated.
Johan
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What year is your S-max? For the newer ones (post 2011or so) it's hard to change the OEM unit because the airco controls are integrated.
Johan
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Hey Johan, thanks for asking...its 2006 Ford S-Max so its easy enough with those specific ones.
I was thinking about it and decided to use one of the specific ones, less hassle with installation and looks better, less after market. But Im not sure which one to pick, I dont have a big budget for this and would prefer to spend around € 200 on it but i dont want to be disappointed with how the unit works, i need it to work mostly with rear camera, playing music from my phone and simultaneously using navigation or playing videos in the back screens (when i finally buy them, plan for future), making calls, some youtube for kids during the trip...i just have enough of drained batteries in phones by 'wheels on the bus' songs lol
In my opinion, as a general rule you should pick up an unit with 2Gb of Ram and physical buttons.
A quad core is also recommended and to be honest I don't think that you need more then quad. There are some new units with octa but I haven't read more info and don't know if they worth the trouble.
Also I would pick a Ford specific unit because it fits perfectly in the dash compared to a standard 2DIN with various adapters that are not always up to standard most of the time.
Sofia looks like a good option, I am also interested in one... I began to read about it... I need to replace my 2 year old 3066 (KYD) unit.
I am mostly seeking it's instant on feature since I got tired of waiting for 30-40 seconds for my unit to boot each time I start my car.
Also I am not sure that you should opt for a CD unit since most don't use CD's anymore.... but that's up to you.
From my experience these aftermarket silver units are a different shade (brighter) of silver compared to the silver dash Ford elements.
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Hi guys
I'm hoping to get some help from you with deciding head unit for my Ford S-Max. I'm doing a research about it but still a bit confused.
I have few units I'm looking at,
1. Ford specific Joying - JY-FL124N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
2. Universal Joying - JY-UL135N2 ( Android 5.1.1 Lollipop 2GB RAM Intel SoFIA 3GR , 4 Cores )
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In my opinion, as a general rule you should pick up an unit with 2Gb of Ram and physical buttons.
A quad core is also recommended and to be honest I don't think that you need more then quad. There are some new units with octa but I haven't read more info and don't know if they worth the trouble.
Also I would pick a Ford specific unit because it fits perfectly in the dash compared to a standard 2DIN with various adapters that are not always up to standard most of the time.
Sofia looks like a good option, I am also interested in one... I began to read about it... I need to replace my 2 year old 3066 (KYD) unit.
I am mostly seeking it's instant on feature since I got tired of waiting for 30-40 seconds for my unit to boot each time I start my car.
Also I am not sure that you should opt for a CD unit since most don't use CD's anymore.... but that's up to you.
From my experience these aftermarket silver units are a different shade (brighter) of silver compared to the silver dash Ford elements.
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Hey
Thanks for spending time to reply.
Yes i also decided to go with a Ford specific, i know the shade might be different but it will still look better then universal unit with frames...The only thing that is annoying is those 2 not working buttons...
It would be good enough if we can programme them but probably those are just blank covers without a button.
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Hey
Thanks for spending time to reply.
Yes i also decided to go with a Ford specific, i know the shade might be different but it will still look better then universal unit with frames...The only thing that is annoying is those 2 not working buttons...
It would be good enough if we can programme them but probably those are just blank covers without a button.
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Glad I could help, I have a Mondeo (oval shape headunit unit) myself and exchanged quite a lot of headunits, I had 2 x 2DIN units and 2 x Ford specific ones. With the 2 DIN I had a hard tine finding adapters that fit perfectly but never got one with the right shade of silver or the perfect shape to accommodate the dash and the 2DIN unit... So I gave up on 2DIN units based on the adapters headache and overall look.
I mentioned that thing about the silver shade because you don't have this problem if you buy it black
Some people are bothered if it's not the same shade.
Yes, those 2 dummy buttons annoys me as well but there's nothing we can do... Overall the buttons layout is not for my liking. I would have preferred the standard android buttons on one side (back, home...) and multimedia buttons on the other side (play, stop...). But they tried really hard to cut the costs this time using old parts and completely cutting out the CD/DVD unit. For me the CD/DVD is useless because with all the streaming services I haven't touched an CD in the last 3 years. The DVD player in the car is also useless for me... when I drive I need waze/gmaps/igo/here and PlayerPro/XiiaLive Pro.
The Sofia unit needs a little modding from what I have read... you definitely need to stop the killing app service, install Viper4Android because the 3 band default EQ is really poor in general... and probably many more... still reading on the problems the unit has and the workarounds.
One thing I can say for sure.. if it weren't for the XDA forum and all these great people I would never consider buying an Chinese unit because out of the box it's pretty poor software wise.
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I'm really into buying ford specific Joying with SoFIA, i was reading about it and plenty of people suggest to buy this one and all seems good but there is one big minus of it, there is no DVD slot (which isn't a problem) the problem is with 2 NOT working buttons 'eject cd' and 'dvd' which is very annoying and taking up the space... I've asked support if there is a chance to reuse (re-programme) those buttons for something else but got no response about that.
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Hi all.
I've recently bought the Joying EU-JY-FL121N2 model, so it fits for a bit newer Modeo/S-max/Focus. In my model there is a dvd slot but it's blanked (not as in the pictures of the hu on the Joying website). The most important thing for you may be the fact that the 'dvd' and 'eject' buttons do work, they just don't do nothing on default. With the
Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)
mod I am able to use them. I can't be 100% sure that there is the same situation with the other models but I suppose that in fact it is.
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Hi all.
I've recently bought the Joying EU-JY-FL121N2 model, so it fits for a bit newer Modeo/S-max/Focus. In my model there is a dvd slot but it's blanked (not as in the pictures of the hu on the Joying website). The most important thing for you may be the fact that the 'dvd' and 'eject' buttons do work, they just don't do nothing on default. With the
Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)
mod I am able to use them. I can't be 100% sure that there is the same situation with the other models but I suppose that in fact it is.
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Can you please take a picture of your unit and show us how it looks... the pictures from the website are old renderings that had the CD slot removed in Photoshop. I would like to see a real picture if possible.
Let me get straight you managed to remap those buttons to do something else with the help of the mod "Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)"?
Thank you !
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Can you please take a picture of your unit and show us how it looks... the pictures from the website are old renderings that had the CD slot removed in Photoshop. I would like to see a real picture if possible.
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Here you go. The whole unit first:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFLWxMcVdyNDZQUGM
And now the picture of the "dvd slot". I shot it with flash so you can see there is no hole:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFYXFCNEQxbGZyckk
Let me get straight you managed to remap those buttons to do something else with the help of the mod "Joying 2GB - Steering wheel key customization - V4 (NO KILL)"?
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That is exactly what I did. In my unit I've got the following codes:
31 - DVD button
32 - EJECT button
33 - MEDIA button
34 - RADIO button
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Here you go. The whole unit first:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFLWxMcVdyNDZQUGM
And now the picture of the "dvd slot". I shot it with flash so you can see there is no hole:
drive.google.com/open?id=0B7ILN8lhPUkFYXFCNEQxbGZyckk
That is exactly what I did. In my unit I've got the following codes:
31 - DVD button
32 - EJECT button
33 - MEDIA button
34 - RADIO button
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Thank you VERY much for the feedback. The pictures are great. They differ a lot from what they posted ... Surprise! the DVD slot is still there... only that is blocked... hmm.....
I pictured that they at least get rid of the slot and the side lights (that I presume that they still lit the fake cd slot)... kinda sloppy decision.... eh... whatever....
The unit looks good... I am definately getting one.
1. Since I have an Mondeo and I will be getting the exact same unit I gotta ask if everything went fine as for some units there are problems with steering wheel buttons (vol up and down, next, prev) especially the M button in the middle (you can't configure it to do anything)? Do they work ok?
2. Did you encounter problems at start (the unit start command, power on, is sent through CAN and actually interpreted and enable by the chinese CAN decoder) ?
3. Does the instant power on feature works ok?
4. The unit hardware buttons backlight colour match the car dashboard?
5. Is the screen bright enough?
6. At night does it dimm enough or do you need to use some software to dimm it even more? (like I feed the need on my unit, if I turn down the brightness even if it goes prett down I still feel the need to make my screen even darker for those white background apps like Google Play Music)
Thank you !
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1. Since I have an Mondeo and I will be getting the exact same unit I gotta ask if everything went fine as for some units there are problems with steering wheel buttons (vol up and down, next, prev) especially the M button in the middle (you can't configure it to do anything)? Do they work ok?
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I was able to get the steering wheel buttons work. I only use those on the left side, but all of them work: vol up/down, next/prev and the 'M' button. In my case the wheel buttons work with connecting 'KEY2' wire - sorry but I don't remember details right know - it is described in the manual from Joying (which is included with the HU). At start after cutting some wire I connected it from the wrong side with the KEY2 one, but then I've noticed a youtube clip
youtube.com/watch?v=QaJqWy9Tk24
and did the same way, but I had to stay with the canbus decoder connected (the only difference from the method shown above).
2. Did you encounter problems at start (the unit start command, power on, is sent through CAN and actually interpreted and enable by the chinese CAN decoder) ?
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I don't quite understand what you've wrote in brackets - I haven't noticed any weird behaviour with starting the unit.
3. Does the instant power on feature works ok?
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Yes, it does actually. I don't know much about the battery drain - I've got the unit for a week only. But I've seen somewhere in the forum statistics of the processor activity during the night and it was almost 100% deep sleep so I'm hoping it's ok.
4. The unit hardware buttons backlight colour match the car dashboard?
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Essentially, yes. In more details: I've set up the red colour (the option of changing colour is visible only with car's lights on - not that much obvious to me) and in the daylight it looks a bit pale - you can see it on the pictures I gave. But when it's dark they look very nice to me - the same or almost the same colour as on the dashboard.
5. Is the screen bright enough?
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We haven't had many sunny days during the last week, so I may only say - I can see what's on the screen, but I don't think I'm going to use it to watch movies - radio, music, bluetooth, maps - for now it's all I need.
6. At night does it dimm enough or do you need to use some software to dimm it even more? (like I feed the need on my unit, if I turn down the brightness even if it goes prett down I still feel the need to make my screen even darker for those white background apps like Google Play Music)
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I can't tell anything about that to be honest, this is to check yet. I'm not very sure but I think that the 28 march update brought some more options for backlight of the screen (but it may have been there before also).
I ordered it just now, hope it goes well !
Thank you for all the feedback !
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Did it start instantly each day or there were days when it booted slowly?
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Did it start instantly each day or there were days when it booted slowly?
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I didn't notice the last question, so maybe the answer is for other people right now - I haven't got any cold boot yet.
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I didn't notice the last question, so maybe the answer is for other people right now - I haven't got any cold boot yet.
Sent from my D5803 using XDA-Developers Legacy app
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That is nice to know... I am hoping that my unit will be here in the next 2-3 days... and then it's mod time... lots of work
Have you hard moded yours to add additional cooling to the unit (heatsinks or fans) or did you let it stock? Have you noticed cpu throttling ? Have you checked the CPU temp? (not sure how users checked it out, probably with an app)
Don't know if I will mod my unit, I am not ready to give up the warranty from day 1.
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Have you hard moded yours to add additional cooling to the unit (heatsinks or fans) or did you let it stock? Have you noticed cpu throttling ?
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AFAIK people here have got some throttling during cpu stress (some benchmarks I think) - I use the unit for listening to the radio, music, phone calls and navigation, for now at least. I don't think those actions will stress the hu at all or maybe in some small amount - I hope so at least...
Have you checked the CPU temp? (not sure how users checked it out, probably with an app)
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I haven't done this with the unit, but in my phone I've used cpuz. I think there are plenty of such kind of apps in Play store which even don't need root.
Don't know if I will mod my unit, I am not ready to give up the warranty from day 1.
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Right now I'm not ready to do any hardware mod and surely I don't feel I need one.
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AFAIK people here have got some throttling during cpu stress (some benchmarks I think) - I use the unit for listening to the radio, music, phone calls and navigation, for now at least. I don't think those actions will stress the hu at all or maybe in some small amount - I hope so at least...
I haven't done this with the unit, but in my phone I've used cpuz. I think there are plenty of such kind of apps in Play store which even don't need root.
Right now I'm not ready to do any hardware mod and surely I don't feel I need one.
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What is your CAN bus settings? I am really struggling with my CAN bus. My S-Max headlights are blinking when parked. I would love to know what settings you are using.
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What is your CAN bus settings? I am really struggling with my CAN bus. My S-Max headlights are blinking when parked. I would love to know what settings you are using.
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What kind of headlights do you have? In my car there are h1/h7 bulbs and I can't see any kind of blinking.
I managed to solve my issue by cutting the wire on the alarm sensor pin in the plug between my car and HU.
Hi everyone,
Due to the lack of (and dispersed) information about these particular head units, here's a thread where we can discuss and help each other out to make the most of these units. Please note this thread is not for Sofia or MCDB/C/D/E units, there are ample threads about those. I am not a full-time software developer, so please do correct me if you think I'm wrong about something. Please do think twice before experimenting on your unit, no one else is responsible for it but yourself. I'm also dying for a custom ROM, if there's any dev making one for these, please know I'm availing my unit for experimentation. It is a powerful Unit which unfortunately is plagued by software problems which is why I believe a dev can make a better job than the manufacturer.
Also, special thanks to @surfer63 for his Joying Extra Tools (JET apk) which has been a critical tool for rooting, among other things.
I will be taking the unit out of the car and opening it up to install a heat sink and take some pictures of the insides, let me know if anyone's interested in close-ups of anything on the board.
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The unit was advertised as compatible with BMW X5 and E39 (5series 1996-2001). My car is a 1997 520i with the low-end dashboard so that's the context I'll be speaking in. The unit shipped complete with adapter cables which connect to the original connectors for the radio, magnetic GPS antenna, external mic (more on the internal mic later), 2 USB ports which are permanently attached to the unit (as well as an sd card slot), a couple of flimsy brackets which screw in place of the original radio holder. However 2 screws which attach the unit to the brackets were not provided and i had to rummage around until i found 2 screws that fit. Unfortunately the original radio antenna cable on the car doesn't fit the unit, however the bundle of cables has an antenna plug with it, it's just a matter of replacing it (someday, as I don't really use radio at all).
The Unit is reporting to have an ARM64-v8a architecture and an rk30sdk board, 4GB RAM as well as 32GB of internal storage. External storage is detected almost immediately as well and I had no problems with files stored on a pendrive. The CPU tends to run hot, occasionally going beyond 80degrees Celcius, I therefore have a small fan and heatsink ordered which I will try to squeeze into the single-DIN box. Worth mentioning it has buttons and a knob on either side of the screen which are backlit and positively responsive. Regarding the in-built microphone, it "works" in theory, ie. it hears you if you tap on it, but it doesn't hear my voice even with the engine idling, let alone cruising down the autobahn. Fortunately it comes with an external mic, I'll hook it up when I pull it out for the fan job.
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This is the latest ROM & MCU update from the manufacturer:
Android Version: 8.0.0
Build number: px5-userdebug 8.0.0 OPR5.170623.007 eng.bsp.20181107.190240 test-keys
System info: APP 1024x600 2018-11-23 08:48:14
MCU Version: 2018-11-23 16:12:28 JY_(R68*)__26_C26_CAN(All)
BT Version: BLINK_8723DS_RELEASE/2018:10:08:17:05:26
DigitalAmp Version: Unknown
CAN Version: Unknown
Serial Number: 00000000
I'm not going to give the Wifi Mac address for obvious reasons.
Cold boots are pretty quick, it's usually done in half a minute. It has a rudimentary "recovery" mode which is achieved by pressing the reset button with a needle 3 times, and after a pause, a countdown is shown under the boot logo, at which point one has to insert the SD card into the right hand slot. If it identifies the ROM on the SD card as equivalent or better, it starts flashing. If it doesn't recognise it, it does apparently nothing and leaves you with a black screen until you remove the SD card and boot it up again.
I have on several occasions attempted to flash TWRP recovery image as well on the unit, with no success.
Description of operation & issues:
Ever since the latest ROM Update, I've been having issues with the WiFi: despite the dozen wifi hotspots around the neighbourhood including my phone and home wifi, the unit doesn't "see" any until I completely reboot it.
The ROM provided by the manufacturer doesn't have a proper bluetooth menu. Despite being equipped with Bluetooth 4.0, as it stands for now, there is no proper bluetooth menu like you get on your phone/tablet/etc... a bluetooth app shortcut does open this menu but the menu doesn't offer any options or work at all except for the on/off toggle.
The CPU runs hot, it is a well known issue and I'm intending to install a heat sink and fan on it.
Several other settings menu items usually found on phones are also missing.
There buttons of course are lit up but the colour options are just 7. There is no way to choose your own colour and I don't know of any app that can do it on this particular model.
So I've opened up the unit and took some pictures before i stuck on a few small heatsinks on the FYT6026 bigger metal heatsink as well as a small fan. I've not taken pictures of what I've done, but you can all suppose how it's set up. It's pretty easy. I've got more closeups of the board for whoever wants to see them, just ask.
Hey @surfer63 or @gtxaspec @xxRaiyanxxYT do you know what the connector circled in red (4 pins) is for? It was not connected to anything in my unit. The other 2 are USB (5 pins) and the one on top (2pins) is microphone.
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Sorry didnt upload for some reason.
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Connect those Plugs Red, Green and Blue
Wondering that myself... Could it be power for a fan?
I have the same unused plug in mine.
Any info would be appreciated
Cheers,
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Connect those Plugs Red, Green and Blue
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What? No you didn't understand. I disconnected the plugs before i took the picture to get a clearer view of the board. The 2 plugs in the Blue circle are both for USB cables that go out from behind the unit, and the green one is for the external microphone which I also use. The one I don't know about is the one in the red circle. it was not connected to anything when I opened the unit and I'd like to know what it might be useful for.
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I have the same unused plug in mine.
Any info would be appreciated
Cheers,
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I was thinking the same thing, I was going to hook the fan up to them but I needed to measure the voltages across those pins and my car is downstairs in the basement and I don't have a proper kit to power the it up on the bench. I would've made one but I was in a hurry yesterday. I need a whole day to mess around with it properly and find out what each part does but right now I'm working through the weekends until the end of the year. Until I get some time like that, I'm trying to gather some more info about it so I won't take it out for nothing (it's a ***** to install this unit back in the car).
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I was thinking the same thing, I was going to hook the fan up to them but I needed to measure the voltages across those pins and my car is downstairs in the basement and I don't have a proper kit to power the it up on the bench. I would've made one but I was in a hurry yesterday. I need a whole day to mess around with it properly and find out what each part does but right now I'm working through the weekends until the end of the year. Until I get some time like that, I'm trying to gather some more info about it so I won't take it out for nothing (it's a ***** to install this unit back in the car).
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I will see what I can do.. Running my unit on the bench right now with a CPU power supply...
Might be able to test it tonight.. If not it will go to this weekend I'm afraid..
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I will see what I can do.. Running my unit on the bench right now with a CPU power supply...
Might be able to test it tonight.. If not it will go to this weekend I'm afraid..
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Good stuff, that'd be great, thanks! Which unit have you got? (specs) And have you managed to change the bootloader or flash a custom rom on it? Feel free to share pics of the motherboard.
Kyle M. said:
Good stuff, that'd be great, thanks! Which unit have you got? (specs) And have you managed to change the bootloader or flash a custom rom on it? Feel free to share pics of the motherboard.
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I have the JY-HOS01P4
8.8" 4GB/32GB
No Hardware button at all. Not reset hole.. nada (Will make it easier to weatherproof.. )
Will at some point put a heatsink on it.. But being single DIN the room is limited...
So far I have only have it rooted and JET installed on it.
I do not think I will mess with the bootloader/custom ROM as it does pretty much what I want out of the box.
Testing different software now.
And the unit will be installed in my HD Roadglide.
So basically the sound output will be 2 fold:
Speakers driven by an external AMP so I can shut of sound by turn the amp off thru the settings
Bluetooth comms headset connected to a bluetooth transmitter taking it's input from RCA jacks
My requirements are the following:
Launcher: CarWebGuru
Radio -> will use stock app
MP3 -> Still testing players but for now I'm happy with google play music
GPS -> Osmand+ with data on SD card
Phone-> Android Auto + Headunit Reloaded (will finish testing and probably will buy.. Do not link ZLink.. even thought it works sort of ok) At this point I'm able to dial/see the phone on the radio and hear/talk with my BT headset
That is pretty much it.. Might attempt to put a DVR at some point...
I'll take a pic tonight of the board but aside from the location of that big capacitor (Mine is beside the wall of the radio) it is pretty much the same as yours.
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I have the JY-HOS01P4
8.8" 4GB/32GB
No Hardware button at all. Not reset hole.. nada (Will make it easier to weatherproof.. )
Will at some point put a heatsink on it.. But being single DIN the room is limited...
So far I have only have it rooted and JET installed on it.
I do not think I will mess with the bootloader/custom ROM as it does pretty much what I want out of the box.
Testing different software now.
And the unit will be installed in my HD Roadglide.
So basically the sound output will be 2 fold:
Speakers driven by an external AMP so I can shut of sound by turn the amp off thru the settings
Bluetooth comms headset connected to a bluetooth transmitter taking it's input from RCA jacks
My requirements are the following:
Launcher: CarWebGuru
Radio -> will use stock app
MP3 -> Still testing players but for now I'm happy with google play music
GPS -> Osmand+ with data on SD card
Phone-> Android Auto + Headunit Reloaded (will finish testing and probably will buy.. Do not link ZLink.. even thought it works sort of ok) At this point I'm able to dial/see the phone on the radio and hear/talk with my BT headset
That is pretty much it.. Might attempt to put a DVR at some point...
I'll take a pic tonight of the board but aside from the location of that big capacitor (Mine is beside the wall of the radio) it is pretty much the same as yours.
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Ah I see, so what they're doing is basically hooking up a different screen to the same single-din box. Have you had any issues with the wifi since the last update?
Kyle M. said:
Ah I see, so what they're doing is basically hooking up a different screen to the same single-din box. Have you had any issues with the wifi since the last update?
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I have not seen any issues.. Mind you I only have an internal network.. Still waiting for internet to be installed ^%@%#
I had to hotspot my phone for connectivity when needed but it is chewing my data!!!
I did all my downloads from work and brought the files/apk home to install.
What kind of issues are you seeing?
Which version of the latest do you have? the first 2018-11-7 or the 2nd 2018-11?
(I hate how the have they same file name.. Joying is pretty bad naming stuff...)
Hi,
I tested the header last night and got nothing. 0 power
Now, I have not had the time to play with the settings in the radio so I do not know if something would turn that on.
Cheers,
haven't tested it myself, but from my memory this red-circled connector has something to do with audio (either Ins or Outs).
Here is the picture of the inside of the single DIN unit
https://www.dropbox.com/s/dnf4p64l5a1gizc/20181212_202622.jpg?dl=0
Cheers
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Which version of the latest do you have? the first 2018-11-7 or the 2nd 2018-11?
(I hate how the have they same file name.. Joying is pretty bad naming stuff...)
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I didn't realise they published the 2018-11. I downloaded the previous update, 2018-11-7. I think they published the second one after the first november update gave us issues and somehow forgot to put the full date on it. I'll try flashing that update at some point and see what happens.
A few weeks ago, I decided to order an Android head-unit: I didn't wanna spend to much money, so ordered a low spec unit. After my holiday I could finally install it, and overall I'm satisfied.
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It runs on an ARM A7 1.3Ghz Quad-Core, scrolling through the screen is quick enough. Although starting apps takes a little bit longer, than used to on my smartphone. However Android Auto seems to work perfectly wired, I haven't been able to get it work wireless.
Also my original USB port of the car, doesn't seem to work with my current Xiaomi Mi 10T Lite. Which uses USB C: perhaps the USB port, is simply not supporting these new USB. My experience with the original car radio was, that this USB didn't even provide enough power to run my dashcam.
Anyway, the AlliExpress seller wasn't honest: they sold me an Android 10 headunit, but it's fake. In reality it runs on Android 8, which is okay to me. Expect than I want a part of the money back, because I wouldn't have ordered it for € 150 if I knew it's actually running Android 8.
Yes I know, it's possible that Android 10 wouldn't do these low spec headunits any good, but it's still false advertising. It seems to support sleep mode just fine, it went on instantly after I turned the car on and off. But for now I have disabled deep sleep, because I wanna avoid draining my battery.
The reverse camera is slightly titled, because of the license plate bracket. But this way, I don't need any drilling or what so ever.
I did some more testing: the screen is bright enough, even during sunny days. When connecting the phone to USB, than Android Auto will start automatically. Which is to my opinion the main feature of this Android Head-unit.
Reversing camera work, but when engine is running: there is flickering, not sure what's the cause. Perhaps the 12LED's draw to much power?
Google Maps and Spotify can work standalone together, but it's slow. So better use Android Auto, because it's safer and more stable. Also sound seems to be better, when using Android Auto. Not sure if it's because, most of the processing finds place on my phone.
The ability to change car logo is nice, and steering wheel control is very bugged. It will only allow me to assign one button? If I assign multiple buttons, than all of them have number 2. Suggesting to me, it might not see that my steering wheel control has three button's.
In order to avoid the car radio everytime deleting your contacts from the phone: go in phone bluetooth setting, and disable allow sharing of contacts. Overall when mainly using it for Android Auto, then it's a good unit. As screen isn't a TN screen.
But I feel, all Android apps including Google Maps aren't made to use directly on a head-unit. So no matter how fast your headunit is, still the integration is bad. The GPS works fine, no issue there. But there isn't a compass inside the head-unit, so it relying mainly on GPS for is position.
Not sure if HereWeGo might work better, because it has the ability to download maps. Also you don't need to run Spotify on the head-unit, it can run just like the OEM car radio play by Bluetooth.
There is a button called Bluetooth, that's where you find the handsfree and everything related to your phone. I would still however refrain from using it, especially while driving. Because it's very distracting.
That's why I already start Google maps on my phone, connect the USB and with less than 30 seconds it will automatically connect to Android Auto. Also music from Spotify would start playing automatically.
If you ask me: these head-units would be way better, if Android was striped down from all useless features.
Dispute
The dispute still is going on, I have used to different apps: both report API Level 27 which means it's running Android 8.1 instead of Android 10. I knew I was buying a low budget device, which increased in price because of chipset crisis and weak euro currency.
But Android 8 is officially not supported by Google anymore: you can still use it, no issues in that. Only I wouldn't have bought it, if I knew the Android version was fake. And obviously because of my working colleague, recommending this seller. If he didn't... I wouldn't have bought from EKIY.
Now it's a back and forth, and the seller saying the information the Fake Device Test and CPU Z give are fake instead. It's a pain in the ass, and most bugs found in this cheap device are even found in the more expensive ones.
I read, that the bug from deleting your contacts on the phone already existing for many years. People even reported it on Joying units, which makes me think. No matter a low or mid range chipset, all going have similar software bugs. It's up to you, how much you wanna spend.
Thank you for a good and detailed review.
I bought an android head unit from EKIY last month, but it is the highest spec. EKIY S7 8G+128G
I don't have any issues you mentioned in the post (lucky me).
Did you buy a general android device or it is tailored specifically for your car?
Regarding the reverse camera try different picture resolution settings. I see they are selling camera rectifiers to provide stable 12V DC if the problem persists.
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32954917237.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.60062e241jGhBO&algo_pvid=689c7955-2a19-4aa1-b802-97f8a8142b59&algo_exp_id=689c7955-2a19-4aa1-b802-97f8a8142b59-0&pdp_ext_f=%7B%22sku_id%22%3A%2212000018709179697%22%7D&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21AED%2133.06%2116.53%21%21%2110.91%21%21%402101e9cf16602900534683194e028f%2112000018709179697%21sea&curPageLogUid=9lfhYfopE8tz
I bought device specifically for my car, but that just means EKIY puts the universal Android head-unit in a frame matching the car. And then providing the harness...
So if I buy any other universal 9 inch Android headunit, which same type of 9 inch screen. Then it should fit as well. Device works fine for Android Auto and built-in apps, so no complaints there.
But I was cheated by the seller: it is not running Android 10, but Android 8.1 which isn't supported by Google anymore. So in a way I overpaid, because it has false specifications specifications. That's why I'm having a dispute running against EKIY, but it still hasn't been resolved.
I had to provide detailed information, so I even provided a video. Now I'm waiting for a solution, the best would be full refund without having to send back. Because I would never have bought it, when it advertise the real Android version.
Also sending back isn't a real option, so I would already be happy with a partial refund and perhaps selling the device locally. But for now I'm keeping it in the car, to use it a bit longer.
I have tried this solution for the flickering, but don't know the result yet. As I haven't started engine. When I know it worked, then I will update this post. But the 12 led camera they give for free, is really bad quality image and I believe there is no need for LEDs on a reverse camera when you have a good lens.
So I have ordered an more expensive reverse camera, from GreenYi which seems good to me. I think wider view would also befit highly when reversing, so I choose option D AHD 720P. There isn't any need for 1080p, because the display don't support this resolution anyway.
GreenYi 170° AHD 720P
https://a.aliexpress.com/_v1Yg6B
DexterMorganNL said:
It seems to support sleep mode just fine, it went on instantly after I turned the car on and off. But for now I have disabled deep sleep, because I wanna avoid draining my battery.
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Hello, can you tell me where to turn off sleep mode
Yes, you are right, the seller is a liar, the android is not 10, but 8. and he does not send me the factory firmware as a backup
DexterMorganNL said:
But I was cheated by the seller: it is not running Android 10, but Android 8.1 which isn't supported by Google anymore. So in a way I overpaid, because it has false specifications specifications. That's why I'm having a dispute running against EKIY, but it still hasn't been resolved.
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I have another car and considering buying one more device, but probably I will skip EKIY for now.
Smith76 said:
Hello, can you tell me where to turn off sleep mode
Yes, you are right, the seller is a liar, the android is not 10, but 8. and he does not send me the factory firmware as a backup
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Go to settings, factory settings and then you find an option called deel sleep or named slightly different. There you can put it off. But I have decided to keep it on, and now I'm observing if battery voltage doesn't drop below 12. In the last 48 hours that hasn't been the case, so I'm guessing it doesn't drain the battery.
Cold boot however is very slow: it takes 47 seconds and going from ACC to start engine will shortly switch off the device. Resulting in a second cold boot of another 47 seconds. So totally it would take about 2 mins, but when you connect the USB cable to your phone. It would automatically start Android auto. When in settings, you selected Car Link to start when usb is connected.
I filmed the boottime, you can see it's really slow. And yes don't expect any support from the seller, especially not after calling him out for cheating. Now I'm just in a big dispute and I finding it quite frustrating to be honest.
I'm regretting this purchase a little, mainly because the false Android version. Because that's something I find important as well. Basically you pay to much, when it claims to be running Android 10. No one would pay € 150 for a head-unit, running an Android version that isn't supported by Google anymore.
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And yes don't expect any support from the seller, especially not after calling him out for cheating. Now I'm just in a big dispute and I finding it quite frustrating to be honest.
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Thank you.
I also really regret that I contacted this brand.
Did you win the dispute or not? I also want to open a dispute with a partial refund.
lissics said:
I have another car and considering buying one more device, but probably I will skip EKIY for now.
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I'm considering Mekede this is an UIS7862 unit, and it has some support on XDA. Looks way better to me, than EKIY. But Mekede is also displaying fake Android 11, but they show the API Level 29 which is Android 10.
So not so much lying as EKIY: you can still find out the truth, if you know about API levels of Android.
Smith76 said:
Thank you.
I also really regret that I contacted this brand.
Did you win the dispute or not? I also want to open a dispute with a partial refund.
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The dispute is still running: AlliExpress firstly declined my evidence, so now I have made it very detailed. Seller just the whole time kept showing Android settings, claiming the Fake Device Test show false information.
I suggest half refund, but even that the seller refused. So I'm having AlliExpress step in and waiting for their solution. It's kinda a pain in the ass, but I'm hoping for a satisfied solution.
DexterMorganNL said:
I'm considering Mekede this is an UIS7862 unit, and it has some support on XDA. Looks way better to me, than EKIY. But Mekede is also displaying fake Android 11, but they show the API Level 29 which is Android 10.
So not so much lying as EKIY: you can still find out the truth, if you know about API levels of Android.
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Yes, the one I bought from EKIY is UIS7862 and it shows API29 in CPU-Z. It runs fast and smooth, but I paid around 300 usd
firmware for this <miracle> from where you can download ?
lissics said:
Yes, the one I bought from EKIY is UIS7862 and it shows API29 in CPU-Z. It runs fast and smooth, but I paid around 300 usd
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Atleast I have an IPS screen, I mean I'm happy with the quality of the screen. I'm guessing that's a specification, which wasn't lied about.
I will keep the thread updated, about the dispute. That doesn't go so fast sadly.
I just went from my hometown to Düsseldorf: the Android Auto works really well, but using the volume button is a pain in the ass. The best is to set volume before driving, because it's hidden behind my steering wheel.
This wouldn't be an issue for British drivers, because they sit on the right. But in the Netherlands we sit on the left seat, so it's a bit more difficult to adjust volume while driving. I think this will be the same on the more expensive units.
Seller came back with: friend how you proof, your app that shows fake Android version isn't fake. Something like that she or he said.... I said the app gets information from the system, which you try to hide.
He also said, that they sell Android 10 headunits. I say yes, but the one you sold me is a fake and I wouldn't have bought it if I knew it.
Also found the option, to disable the AHD for the reverse camera. Perhaps this is the issue with the reverse camera, because it wasn't the ground wire I disconnected this morning. The reverse camera I have is definitely not AHD.....
One negative part about Android Auto, or actually the USB connection of this device: while Android Auto is running, it gets hardly any charge. So better make sure you battery isn't to empty to begin with.
The seller all of a sudden send me an update, for the EKIY D7. But when I go into the FYT Build Prop, then it's labeled as an ATOTO...
And the last line in the build prop says: ro.build.version.release=11
I'm guessing that's how they fake the Android version? In this update, which I haven't installed yet on the device. They are faking the Android version to be Android 11 making it even worse.
And in metadata, I can actually see the Android is 8.1.0
post-build=SPRD/sp7731e_1h10_native/sp7731e_1h10:8.1.0/OPM2.171019.012/19115:user/release-keys
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Or at least I'm guessing, this number refers to the real Android version.
I seriously don't know for which device this update was meant? But it didn't work on my update, and I was afraid that this stupid update almost brick the device. That doesn't matter if I get a full refund from AlliExpress....
But I still don't know what's the solution from AlliExpress going be.
So finally AliExpress made a decision about my dispute: from the € 150 I spend for this headunit, I'm going be getting € 30 back. Which I think is reasonable....
It's still a fully functional Android headunit, although running on Android 8.1 and basically incapable of running Google Maps straight from the head-unit. Other navigation apps might work perhaps better, but I haven't tested it anymore.
Now I'm looking into Mekede, which I guess I could open a dispute against this seller as well after receiving the FYT Based UIS7862 headunit.... because they also lie about Android version. Only they mention the correct API Level, so I already know it runs fake Android 11.
I'm guessing I will just be selling the headunit, either completely. Or I'm going be taking it out of the frame, and then order a new one. Because I would still need an Android head-unit, if I wanna keep the reverse camera.
Well I used the device in the end for three weeks, and have decided to replace it with an Mekede M500s. Which I should have gotten in the first place, but I simply made a wrong decision.
My end verdict would be: totally useable for Android Auto or Apple Carplay and listen to your FM-Radio or music etc. Not so much useable for running heavier Android apps.
I haven't found many light Android Apps? I tried Mapy.cz a Czech Google Maps, but that made the headunit crash and reboot. So in the end I haven't bother anymore, finding working navigation apps. Although I noticed for some kind of reason, they preinstall iGo navigation. Is that supposed to be some kind of light weight navigation app?
Another thing this headunit is useful for: hooking up your reverse camera, believe it or not it supports AHD. Because I switched the 12led reverse camera for an 720p AHD reverse camera and it worked.
Actually the main reason I'm still sticking with Android headunits, is because it seems the best choice if you don't have the option to get something OEM.
Ofcourse a JVC headunit could have done, but those have limited functionality: do they even support AHD reverse camera's? And what I have seen, the screens in these devices are of really bad quality. Similar to something you get for €$ 60 bucks on AliExpress.
I'm just hoping these head-units last a long time, because I read someone who had an iDoing headunit: it broke after a year. The only thing people never mention, how much it actually had been used.
@DexterMorganNL Thank you very much for detailing your experience with these scammers! I was very close to ordering an android T7 head unit from them so I'm very grateful for the warning. It's a shame they didn't punish these scammers harder but at least you go a bit of justice out of it by preventing others from giving them money.
Hello everyone.
I received the head unit three days ago for my Ford Fiesta (2011). It was easy to set-up. I haven't had time to install the rear camara yet.
There's one thing I find annoying however : everythime I start the device, it starts with Youtube? I'd like to start on the homepage. Do you know what to do ?
Hallo Dexter and everyone here. I am new in this forum and hope to find some information as well as sharing some.
Couple of weeks I have bought this exact unit for my beautiful 2004 Toyota Camry. I just to have same shape of unit in my Volvo and it was working ok I think, but that one was from different seller. I chose this model thinking for my usage will be good enough. Even though I am driving a lot and long distance I am still not living in my car. I just need some music, phone, Navi and the reversing camera is just a little bonus for safety. I have find some issues with this unit. The version of the Android is clamed to be 11.xxx but Google says it’s 8.xxx. The Apple car is little slow to connect but I can live with it. The only problem with this is that when I have my phone connected via Bluetooth the Apple car will not connect.
Still with switching it manually it would work. THE major problem is my original automatic antenna. I was controlled by the original radio. Radio on -antenna goes up, radio off- antenna goes down. With this EKIY unit the antenna still goes up and down with the unit on and off, but the unit is turned on with the engine start or ACC and turned off within 1-2 minutes after the engine off. And with this goes the antenna up and down. This is the problem especially when I want to drive through car wash line ( for example). I just can’t find a way to turn the radio off while driving or the engine running. The seller is telling me that it can’t be done and I am having trouble to believe it. And the other problem is the screen brittnes. I can’t dim it witch is enjoying by driving at night. I can turn it off but the unit goes into sleep mode. I still want to use it, but the sharp light of the screen is tiresome to eyes. I know this post is almost a year old but if anyone reads this, please help me. I don’t know much about Android but I hope there is some solution to the problems. Thank you all in advance. Best regards
Mario von Hallwil
emarie3680 said:
Hello everyone.
I received the head unit three days ago for my Ford Fiesta (2011). It was easy to set-up. I haven't had time to install the rear camara yet.
There's one thing I find annoying however : everythime I start the device, it starts with Youtube? I'd like to start on the homepage. Do you know what to do ?
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Hi, I believe it can be changed in factory settings. The passcode is 3368. Or using the papier clip or pin you can reset the unit, then set up your device once more. I hope this helps
Mario von Hallwil
Hello, I hope this is the right place, I keep finding this forum every time I search trying to trouble shoot my issues. Long story short, I had been eyeing these head units for my Q5 to add CarPlay, a local installer recommended the same model, and I thought great, so I ordered it and they installed it. I am however having 3 issues, and while the seller has been helpful, they are on a completely different time zone and it’s not progressing well unfortunately. The installer can’t find anything wrong. Little did I know what I was getting into, and I can’t find a manual or even a specific model number to search on.
My Car:
2013 Audi Q5 MMI (3g, gps nav, etc built in, AMI port in glove box, but everything else is in the center console under the screen)
Unit I installed as recommended by installer:
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My 3 issues:
1) My OEM backup camera does not show video. The radar sensors work. When I put the car into reverse the unit changes to backup mode, but the video image is black. There are multiple backup camera options in the software, I have tried them all. The after market selections at least give me the radar visual and lane lines, but still no video feed. The OEM option only shows me a black screen with a picture of a Q5 on the right.
2) The audio from the head unit is not coming through the car stereo. None of the center console controls work. The right 2 control buttons around the knob are both always flashing slowly. Only Radio works and can be controlled by steering wheel. My phone seems to be synced to car‘s original Bluetooth, and audio takes over when I get a call.
3) My airbag light in the dash is on. I am certain this is because the bezel they sent me only has the hazard light switch.
The unit otherwise is getting better and better as I learn to use it and CarPlay, which I ultimately bought it for, is working well too. My wife and I though are really struggling without the backup camera, and I fear I’ll be ripping the whole thing out and putting the original unit back in if I can’t fix that.
I have pictures of everything inside and out I can share. I’ll add them later as I can. But since this forum keeps coming up in my searches, I thought I would get a conversation started and see if anyone could help me. Really appreciate any assistance in advance. At this point I’ve become versed in taking the car apart and can get behind the entire vertical stack in the center and have confirmed what I can. I’m pretty handy with software as well.
(At the very least to start, a picture of my backup camera options in the software, I’ve tried them all)
jcapxda said:
Hello, I hope this is the right place, I keep finding this forum every time I search trying to trouble shoot my issues. Long story short, I had been eyeing these head units for my Q5 to add CarPlay, a local installer recommended the same model, and I thought great, so I ordered it and they installed it. I am however having 3 issues, and while the seller has been helpful, they are on a completely different time zone and it’s not progressing well unfortunately. The installer can’t find anything wrong. Little did I know what I was getting into, and I can’t find a manual or even a specific model number to search on.
My Car:
2013 Audi Q5 MMI (3g, gps nav, etc built in, AMI port in glove box, but everything else is in the center console under the screen)
Unit I installed as recommended by installer:
Android 10.0 Head Unit for Audi Q5 2009-2017 Car GPS Navi Stereo Radio 4G BT RDS 732910618142 | eBay
Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Android 10.0 Head Unit for Audi Q5 2009-2017 Car GPS Navi Stereo Radio 4G BT RDS at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!
www.ebay.com
My 3 issues:
1) My OEM backup camera does not show video. The radar sensors work. When I put the car into reverse the unit changes to backup mode, but the video image is black. There are multiple backup camera options in the software, I have tried them all. The after market selections at least give me the radar visual and lane lines, but still no video feed. The OEM option only shows me a black screen with a picture of a Q5 on the right.
2) The audio from the head unit is not coming through the car stereo. None of the center console controls work. The right 2 control buttons around the knob are both always flashing slowly. Only Radio works and can be controlled by steering wheel. My phone seems to be synced to car‘s original Bluetooth, and audio takes over when I get a call.
3) My airbag light in the dash is on. I am certain this is because the bezel they sent me only has the hazard light switch.
The unit otherwise is getting better and better as I learn to use it and CarPlay, which I ultimately bought it for, is working well too. My wife and I though are really struggling without the backup camera, and I fear I’ll be ripping the whole thing out and putting the original unit back in if I can’t fix that.
I have pictures of everything inside and out I can share. I’ll add them later as I can. But since this forum keeps coming up in my searches, I thought I would get a conversation started and see if anyone could help me. Really appreciate any assistance in advance. At this point I’ve become versed in taking the car apart and can get behind the entire vertical stack in the center and have confirmed what I can. I’m pretty handy with software as well.
(At the very least to start, a picture of my backup camera options in the software, I’ve tried them all)
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Sorry to say, issue 1 and 3 are quite sure installation issues.
For the first one: Quite clear and could be measured: The backup camera has no power. There should be a connector for the power feed. --> instructions.
Third one: They removed the connector for the airbag, while checking the unit with ignition on. Can be reset at the dealer or by someone who has the right tooling.
Second one: Look into the settings of the unit and check the settings for the CAN box. 2 possibilities here: You got the wrong CAN box or the setting is not set to external amplifier.
@rigattoni thank you
rigattoni said:
Sorry to say, issue 1 and 3 are quite sure installation issues.
For the first one: Quite clear and could be measured: The backup camera has no power. There should be a connector for the power feed. --> instructions.
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Well installation issues, at this point I think I can fix (famous last words). Getting parts / seems to be harder with communication challenges. (was instructions supposed to be a link?)
I pulled things out last night, I didn't find the RCA yellow video in I expected (there are 2 but they both seemed to be for aftermarket and are disconnected. There wasn't the obvious yellow <-> yellow rca adapters I see everyone else have with the power feed to the reverse lights. I'm assuming it's (in theory) feeding in through the primary adapter (block of plugs) going in to the back of the Android unit. I was able to account for all other connectins.
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Third one: They removed the connector for the airbag, while checking the unit with ignition on. Can be reset at the dealer or by someone who has the right tooling.
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They reset it, it keeps coming back on. My original had a light, this bezel doesn't. As I understand there is likely some resisitance that's supposed to be here ...
rigattoni said:
Second one: Look into the settings of the unit and check the settings for the CAN box. 2 possibilities here: You got the wrong CAN box or the setting is not set to external amplifier.
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Thanks, I will check settings. There's a "key settings" and offers 4 & 8. It's the only major configuration section I don't understand. But I think I've tried both. Will look again.
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Well installation issues, at this point I think I can fix (famous last words). Getting parts / seems to be harder with communication challenges. (was instructions supposed to be a link?)
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No link, the seller should at least provide some installation instruction with the unit.
As I don´t know the unit and don´t know what has been provided with the unit itself, I am not able to help.
Your backup camera should have a video output which needs to get connected with the head unit. Where to put, needs to get from the seller. If he is not able... send this crap back.
The same for the airbag error message... If the seller is not able to give clear instruction... send the crap back.
Seller finally agreed they didn't send me all the right cables. Specifically they mentioned I need an AMI cable, but also the LVDS plug (in the photo above, in the top left) ... should have an adapter. Which I've specifically asked them about a few times in pictures, but as I suspected it, it can't just be unplugged and needs an adapter to plug into the rest. So... those are on their way, we'll see. I suspect the OEM backup cam video comes in via that cable based on my research and wiring diagrams, but again, we'll see.
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Seller finally agreed they didn't send me all the right cables. Specifically they mentioned I need an AMI cable, but also the LVDS plug (in the photo above, in the top left) ... should have an adapter. Which I've specifically asked them about a few times in pictures, but as I suspected it, it can't just be unplugged and needs an adapter to plug into the rest. So... those are on their way, we'll see. I suspect the OEM backup cam video comes in via that cable based on my research and wiring diagrams, but again, we'll see.
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Good to know.
Did they give you a guide how to fix the airbag issue?
Just to let you know: In case of an accident, the airbags can be activated or not without control. This is a severe security issue, you should take care of.
The AMI cable just provides audio and is normally used for external audio sources like iPod, IPhone and such things. May be they use it to get the head unit speaking to your OEM amplifier. I don´t know your unit and the specs. At least Audi is not that easy with these kind of units.
Well, predictably, nothing's easy.
They sent me a splitter cable for the airbag (passenger occupancy light) and hazard button. (but there's only one input to split into ....
LVDS cable was missing, so that connects the LVDS feed -> back of android. I do finally have some sight to the OEM UI, but only briefly, and I can't interact with it with any buttons. The backup camera will come on but only briefly, and only the first time. After that it cuts to OEM nav, and then only for a second.
AMI adapter (straightforard) would in theory help audi, but I suspect the priori issue with the oem system and lack of mmi buttons working is somehow blocking control / and thus "aux" audio.
However, at the least, I was able to remove the OEM occupancy / hazazrd button, and attach it to the splitter they gave me. Tucked it into the dash (meaning I can't... see the light but for now fine) and cleared the Air bag code. And yes, air bag stays off. Finally. So that's better.
I'm awaiting their reply on all the rest. Driving me crazy. Based on searches, I'm starting to wonder if this is programmed for the wrong baud rate? I only vaguely know these terms, but have stumbled across similar symptoms of people retrofitting MMI 3G+ and issues witht the controls not working, flashing red lights.
jcapxda said:
Well, predictably, nothing's easy.
They sent me a splitter cable for the airbag (passenger occupancy light) and hazard button. (but there's only one input to split into ....
LVDS cable was missing, so that connects the LVDS feed -> back of android. I do finally have some sight to the OEM UI, but only briefly, and I can't interact with it with any buttons. The backup camera will come on but only briefly, and only the first time. After that it cuts to OEM nav, and then only for a second.
AMI adapter (straightforard) would in theory help audi, but I suspect the priori issue with the oem system and lack of mmi buttons working is somehow blocking control / and thus "aux" audio.
However, at the least, I was able to remove the OEM occupancy / hazazrd button, and attach it to the splitter they gave me. Tucked it into the dash (meaning I can't... see the light but for now fine) and cleared the Air bag code. And yes, air bag stays off. Finally. So that's better.
I'm awaiting their reply on all the rest. Driving me crazy. Based on searches, I'm starting to wonder if this is programmed for the wrong baud rate? I only vaguely know these terms, but have stumbled across similar symptoms of people retrofitting MMI 3G+ and issues witht the controls not working, flashing red lights.
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Hello where did you put the splitter into?
1 goes to the original cable
1 goes to the new framepanel (without the air bag light)
and where goes the third cable?
Please help thx