Hey guys, just putting this out there.
Valve said that you can install any OS you want on this including windows which is better for game support. Proton is great and all but doesnt have 100% coverage.
So what this means is it probably has an accessible BIOS (maybe even cpu undervolting possible) and should let you boot from sd card. This would be great for keeping steam os on the main storage just to see how it goes and for emulators. And then any game that doesnt run properly under proton you can quickly plug in an sd card with bootable windows and play those games there.
What do you guys think if this is possible would you do it? or what other os would you install?
As seen on many SBCs (i.e. RPi, odroid...), sd-card booting is rather slow.
You Do not want that for a Windows-Installation.
My guess is that they wanted to make thing as cheap as possible. A Windows 10 license adds somewhat $50-$100 to the pricetag. Plus they would have to certify the steamdeck for Windows.... Also adds costs, time and maybe IT is not possible at all.
I'd rather go with swapping PCIe-SSDs. Although that might void the warranty.
I agree, I think sd card booting will be slow. But, it's not impossible. Think, booting Ubuntu with a CD. It's slow to boot but once booted mostly everything is in memory and pretty quick.
Ssd... usb... same ole...
My ole elite book 820 1st version, is a corporate laptop, more open than oems, I5 is rapid, 256 pcie used for (broken)wan, wiped giving me a 250 c drive, sata filled with 250gig of fruity midi and softsynths, when hooked up to my studio, best sounds where i live lol, no lag, latency pretty much zero, using win 7 x64 ultimate
Same speeds, usb3 speed, that's how I see it, or usb 2 most likely for most...
That's your actual hardware speed...
chip performance re: running an os, my ssd is faster than the old ones with moving part's... ssd loses files, the old ones we could find easier... with rstudio etc..
Think about it... your ssd is using usb (most likely 3) to transfer through the usb bus...
And if memory serves me correctly, ssd's can only handle on average 200,000,000 read write's, now what does all this mountin partitions do?
Wear the heck out of those rw
ssd all the way.... the frequencies are the key to speed
i wish they would have put a usb A port on the device and that they would have planned for easier replacement of SSD.
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Hi there, a rant a question, but i will try and keep it brief,
First me rant, why oh why when an ipod can carry 40gig of data in its tiny little space, have HTC not taken the concept behind their Hard Drive systems, I would NOT complain for a second if my pda got half a cm or a cm thicker but gained a gig memory, or more,
And question, I use a Hymalaya, (m1000) i have been interested in the Universal and the WM5 upgrade, My sister has just got one and i have had an explore of hers, whats with the 44meg for programs, i struggle with the xda getting over clogged, is this a problem for the Universal, i can only see that iam going to be more limited to what i can install on the Universal than iam on the hymalaya, this has stopped me upgrading,
Looking to confirm if iam right or seriously needing to revise more.
Thanks Guys, sorry the brief idea went,
OK, for a start, an Ipod uses a mini harddrive, which would NOT be suitable for a PPC (in my opinion, its not suitable for a music player) as they are so fragile. Also, a hard drive chews power, alot more than flash memory.
The approach adopted with most PPCs is to use an exteral storage card, which you install your programs onto.
WM5 uses a different method of storing data to previous versions. It uses RAM to run programs, and it uses ROM for persistent storage (e.g. installed programs).
My advice, get yourself a 1gb sd card (~£42) and install your programs onto that.
I have got a 1gig SD in my M1000, but have refused to install programs to the sd card because of crashing it its removed, (sdio wifi card in use as well) and the time factor for the device to have to access the sd card for system files,
take it this is the way forward for the wm5 devices
Yeah have to agree with you on the ipod thing, like i say, was just a rant, coincidentially, less than 10 minutes after a hard reset cos it all got a bit much for it,
Think iam going to try installing to the mmc card and see how stable it is,
Thanks heliosfa
dunno if this has been discussed here cause i havent seen anything about it. it is know that vista has a program called ReadyBoost, which integrates usb removable storage to the ram and i was wondering seen as it was ported to XP could it be done for windows mobile? using the storage card of course. sorry if this topic was dismissed already, i couldnt find anything related.
Smart thought acctually
But i doub't it
storage card is much slower than onboard ram therefore the idea is pretty weak.
I'm not sure it it would be of much use, since SD cards are extremely slow compared to ram memory.
Since data that needs to be accessed fast and frequently usually gets stored in ram, attempting to use falsh card as RAM would cause extreme slowdown of your device.
Also, the readyBoost doesn't integrate into RAM, but serves more as something like extended disk cache - some frequently accessed files can be stored in flash memory (faster then HDD and less power-consuming), so there are less random reads of HDD needed, resulting in better performance, and increased battery life on laptops.
For pocket PC's doing it the other way around (ramdisk - using part of RAM as emulated storage card) makes a bit more sense an is quite useful on devices with much RAM - for example keeping web browser's temporary files in ramdisk can boost its performance a lot.
i knew it is slower but i had the doubt these days and i wanted to ask. i read about the hardware way that works on some PPCs but i dont want to mess with mine like that.
mr_deimos another way could be using storage memory for it, it wont be as slow as storage card but it could work, the way windows use it, using HDD storage as temp. newer ppcs have a lot of memory, 32mbs of extra ram will be really usefull. i hope u get the idea.
While ReadyBoost is pretty much useless with today's RAM setups and the XP port is pretty much worthless for the same reason, it actually could make some sense under Windows Mobile. Even some of the newer devices come out with a measly 64MB of RAM that probably could profit from some extra (even slow) memory. SD card File transfer rates may be beyond good and evil on a mobile, but access times are actually very good and that is exactly what ReadyBoost uses to begin with. Focusing on the currently active program in favor of some swapped background applications could save the day every now and then. Think about it the next time Navigon and Opera crap out on you because you don't have enough free memory :>
I know that the storage Ram is different than the Memory Ram, however a ramdisk using the extra storage ram would be nice.
I've asked this question before and have yet to ever find a solution.
chris
I searched similar threads, but i found no proper answer to my question.
Is this a general android-build problem on the HD2?
I tried it with different PC's (XP/W7) and Roms (SD and NAND) and everytime
i get a only a transfer rate between 300 to 500 kbyte/s
(this is really slow! WM 6.5 connection was up to 10 Mbyte/sec)
It's a C10 sdcard and i already installed the SD read forward patch with 2048kb.
So internal reading/writing speed is not the problem.
What can i do to speed up the USB - Connection ??
(...please don't tell me to use a cardreader - this was not questioned!)
thanks!
there is a solution i believe... check out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010767
hellraiser-rh said:
I searched similar threads, but i found no proper answer to my question.
Is this a general android-build problem on the HD2?
I tried it with different PC's (XP/W7) and Roms (SD and NAND) and everytime
i get a only a transfer rate between 300 to 500 kbyte/s
(this is really slow! WM 6.5 connection was up to 10 Mbyte/sec)
It's a C10 sdcard and i already installed the SD read forward patch with 2048kb.
So internal reading/writing speed is not the problem.
What can i do to speed up the USB - Connection ??
(...please don't tell me to use a cardreader - this was not questioned!)
thanks!
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I hate you man i was opening Q&A to post exactly about the same issue!
However i had a very satisfying SDcard read and write speeds, that is when i formatted it with SD formatter tool and WITHOUT any partitioning of it!
Today i wanted to try a sence build with EXT partition so i formatted the SDcard with the internal Partitioning tool of CWR to 1GB EXT. Then i formatted the SDcard (both FAT32 and EXT) with CWR.
I flashed a ROM and went to USB storage mode, and i was shocked!
The SDcard is now muuuuuuccccchhhh slower!!! Why is that?! And what can we do about it?!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010767
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Man he said that he applied that, besides that only affects internal speeds!
So can I just format my 32gb class 10 stick and run 1 fat32 partition and enjoy better performance or do we need the ext3 partition? Mines only like 200MB or so.
If using windows do you have some sort of Virus Scan going on. Is the USB hub on the computer really at USB 2.0 or more?
yep. It's a external powered 7 port usb 2.0 hub. When I plug the micro sdhc card into my usb card reader which plugs into the hub I get write speeds of 15MB/s+! Then I plug it in the phone and It pulls off 2MB/s barely. This is a CLASS 10 32GB Micro SDHC card. I changed the read_ahead_kb to 2048. No change. I'll test out 3072 and 4096. I think there's some driver issue with windows and the android usb driver or something. It's slow on several machines all operating at usb 2.0 specifications. Do we need to install software for the device? If so let me know! I get an unknown device when i plug the phone in and not usb mass storage, it tries to install the Android internal memory driver with no success. Supposedely google has a special driver for windows where u need the java developtmental sdk and the google java sdk. I'll update later. Any suggestions would be killer awesome!
any idea?
I've got a USB 2.0 connetction and the sdcard is not the Problem.
With my SDHC-reader in the same USB-port i get the normal speeds!
And i don't had this problem with WM6.5!!
With WM6.5 my spped was similar to the USB-reader!
But now ... with Android in NAND.....
The Speed problem occurs at all my PC's (XP,Vista and W7) and
with all the old SD-Build's (i thought that was an SD-Build problem)
and now with the NAND-Build (rafpigna Sense HD 4.02 ext) nothing changed !
So it is a general problem I think, not only me
Well, I was using dual mount SD for mounting the SDCard to the PC and the writing speed on the SD (class 6) was about 900KB ! But after I tried the native android mounting it was risen up to 3.4MB -which is also much slower than the card reader (~7MB)-
Same problem here ...
from the boot loader i get better write speeds ...
i tried ftp transfer too , no diferince in speed (still around 800 kbs).
i tried over wifi , still no difference.
iam using:
Pyramid HTC Europe 1.35.401.1 - Real 3D V2.3
I found out how to fix the problem. It lies within windows disk checker. Automatically fix file system errors, and Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors. This will take a long time depending on your speed and size of your memory stick. I do this when my speeds slow down. For my 32GB Class 10 card, it could take 2-4 Hours. However I'm getting 12-16MB/s write using windows and CWR. Make sure your device is being detected at USB 2.0 Speeds. Trust me! Doing it once ever couple days your speeds will be faster and faster. Even exceed the class specification of your card. This fixes the slow read/ write speeds!!!!
CYA
1chris89 said:
I found out how to fix the problem. It lies within windows disk checker. Automatically fix file system errors, and Scan for and attempt recovery of bad sectors. This will take a long time depending on your speed and size of your memory stick. I do this when my speeds slow down. For my 32GB Class 10 card, it could take 2-4 Hours. However I'm getting 12-16MB/s write using windows and CWR. Make sure your device is being detected at USB 2.0 Speeds. Trust me! Doing it once ever couple days your speeds will be faster and faster. Even exceed the class specification of your card. This fixes the slow read/ write speeds!!!!
CYA
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ill try it ... reporting back after trying...
ok not working on the phone... ill set the sd card into a reader and try it out there
dint work at all ... some one else should feel free to confirm this
here is a bug report for this problem:
http://code.google.com/p/cyanogenmo...etwork Owner Summary Stars Priority&start=100
Ok, sorry. I'll start at the beginning and explain every detail on how to get amazingly excellent performance from you sd card. Your going to be required to format it to fat32 64kb cluster for optimum performance. That's #1 and required. If you need your ext3,4 etc partition. I'm sorry. You will have to continue to bare the poor performance. You need a raw fresh sd card. Then I would run a disk check to correct any internal errors that windows uses, with all options checked this should take a while to complete. On my 16gb class 2 it takes atleast 45 minues and 2 hours on my 32gb class 10. Windows disk checker perfects the clusters and the file system integrity. Run it once on a fresh sd card. Then transfer a file 100MB or larger to get good speeds. Transferring a ton of smaller files will always be 50-75% of your class specification. There is no way around this. The card will transfer at it's class when transferring large files. If the card was able to transfer at it's specified class with small files, would require more energy to perform the task and cause the card to overheat since it's performing more operations a second with a lot of small files compared to a few large files. One thing you will always need to keep in mind is the performance is very delicate and will not be maintained for long if you don't take extra special care of safely removing the device from the computer. I've been lucky to just turn off usb mass storage when the transfer is complete and have maintained my speeds this way. However before I dialed in to how to keep it performing excellent I would constantly cause the card to perform way worse after only a day or 2 after the optimization. To keep it running optimum make sure to run windows disk checker once a month or when it slows down. Make sure you format using either Windows format function from my computer or Disk Management. I have found that the windows methods are far superior to maintaining excellent performance since Windows writes the format data to the card in the manner it prefers to use on a daily basis. Third party applications perform the same simple "similar" task in a different manner technically speaking. I have noticed performance loss from tests I have ran comparing 3rd party format compared to windows format. Also the 64Kilobyte cluster size performs the best on all files sizes. Do not use anything smaller than that. Also a 3072KB read ahead in android on average performs better than a 2048kb read ahead. If you have any additional questions. Don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks cya!
Same phone on Mac & Windows
I have tried the same phone Samsung Galaxy S2 doing a 1 GB write to SD on a Windows machine vs a Mac. The Mac transfers in about 5 min the Windows machine takes about 20 min. Both machines are with the External SD mounted and copy and paste a folder with 10,000 files in it.
I then tried it with Motorola Atrix and get the same results.
I need a way to rapidly write 8GB of data every night to 46 phones... No I am not going to take the SD cards out of the phone and use a card reader.
Anyone have any idea what could be causing the slow down on Windows?
Read the above post and it will fix your problem.
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Ok, sorry. I'll start at the beginning and explain every detail on how to get amazingly excellent performance from you sd card. Your going to be required to format it to fat32 64kb cluster for optimum performance. That's #1 and required. If you need your ext3,4 etc partition. I'm sorry. You will have to continue to bare the poor performance. You need a raw fresh sd card. Then I would run a disk check to correct any internal errors that windows uses, with all options checked this should take a while to complete. On my 16gb class 2 it takes atleast 45 minues and 2 hours on my 32gb class 10. Windows disk checker perfects the clusters and the file system integrity. Run it once on a fresh sd card. Then transfer a file 100MB or larger to get good speeds. Transferring a ton of smaller files will always be 50-75% of your class specification. There is no way around this. The card will transfer at it's class when transferring large files. If the card was able to transfer at it's specified class with small files, would require more energy to perform the task and cause the card to overheat since it's performing more operations a second with a lot of small files compared to a few large files. One thing you will always need to keep in mind is the performance is very delicate and will not be maintained for long if you don't take extra special care of safely removing the device from the computer. I've been lucky to just turn off usb mass storage when the transfer is complete and have maintained my speeds this way. However before I dialed in to how to keep it performing excellent I would constantly cause the card to perform way worse after only a day or 2 after the optimization. To keep it running optimum make sure to run windows disk checker once a month or when it slows down. Make sure you format using either Windows format function from my computer or Disk Management. I have found that the windows methods are far superior to maintaining excellent performance since Windows writes the format data to the card in the manner it prefers to use on a daily basis. Third party applications perform the same simple "similar" task in a different manner technically speaking. I have noticed performance loss from tests I have ran comparing 3rd party format compared to windows format. Also the 64Kilobyte cluster size performs the best on all files sizes. Do not use anything smaller than that. Also a 3072KB read ahead in android on average performs better than a 2048kb read ahead. If you have any additional questions. Don't hesitate to ask.
Thanks cya!
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Hi!
Thank you for this thorough and correct advice. It solved my problem with my SDHC class 4 card used in a Samsung Galaxy Gio. My computer (Win7) could write on the card with only 150 kb/s, now it is around 2200-3000 kb/s.
Hi all,
I had a freaky idea this morning. Windows 8 installations can also be turned into 'Windows to go' drives, meaning that you can run the whole os off a usb drive. I thought a lot about an idea and then i tried to implement it. Few basic things first though, windows 8 needs an ntfs formatted drive, which android (officially) doesnt support. Before i reached the android part though, i took my 32gb class 10 sd card and with a reader, made a 'windows to go' drive. I then booted into it and customized it for extreme performance. Once booted, it was zipping on the OS. Satisfied, i took out the card and inserted it into my galaxy note (running gb). Thats when i realized it had problems detecting it. I got past that issue too by following this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1416923 . Then it could read the ntfs formatted sd card and with a bit of effort (the script had to be run every time after it disconnected), got it to mount as a UMS. Now i restarted my machine and went to the boot order (that gave me enough time to mount the card as UMS) and in the boot menu it showed me 2 options 'Android UMS Composite' and 'Android UMS Composite 1'. Sadly though, neither booted win 8 and went to the win 7 os on my hdd. What went wrong here? Could anybody help me to actually implement the idea? Just to check whether it could work? I dont plan to use it......but it would be cool just to think that it could work.
Cheers
Xyan
Galaxy note is an ARM device. Windows 8 is x86. Thats a pretty damn big limiting factor right there. Although where windows 7 comes in I dont know as windows 7 is also x86 and wont boot on the note unless your post was incomplete
xyancompgeek said:
Hi all,
I had a freaky idea this morning. Windows 8 installations can also be turned into 'Windows to go' drives, meaning that you can run the whole os off a usb drive. I thought a lot about an idea and then i tried to implement it. Few basic things first though, windows 8 needs an ntfs formatted drive, which android (officially) doesnt support. Before i reached the android part though, i took my 32gb class 10 sd card and with a reader, made a 'windows to go' drive. I then booted into it and customized it for extreme performance. Once booted, it was zipping on the OS. Satisfied, i took out the card and inserted it into my galaxy note (running gb). Thats when i realized it had problems detecting it. I got past that issue too by following this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1416923 . Then it could read the ntfs formatted sd card and with a bit of effort (the script had to be run every time after it disconnected), got it to mount as a UMS. Now i restarted my machine and went to the boot order (that gave me enough time to mount the card as UMS) and in the boot menu it showed me 2 options 'Android UMS Composite' and 'Android UMS Composite 1'. Sadly though, neither booted win 8 and went to the win 7 os on my hdd. What went wrong here? Could anybody help me to actually implement the idea? Just to check whether it could work? I dont plan to use it......but it would be cool just to think that it could work.
Cheers
Xyan
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You should look into drivedroid. I remember finding a tutorial online explaining how to boot from ntfs using drivedroid. It could be a start into what you are trying
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You should look into drivedroid. I remember finding a tutorial online explaining how to boot from ntfs using drivedroid. It could be a start into what you are trying
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that won't help, issue here is that he is trying to boot windows on a device that physically cannot run windows.
SixSixSevenSeven said:
that won't help, issue here is that he is trying to boot windows on a device that physically cannot run windows.
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Did you read it properly? He is clearly saying he want to boot win8 from the devices storage. Acting as a hdd
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Did you read it properly? He is clearly saying he want to boot win8 from the devices storage. Acting as a hdd
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the storage of a galaxy note smartphone which is an arm device incapable of running windows 8, clearly I read it more than you did. As I also pointed out in my first post he then become completely ambiguous as to whether he is still talking about his note or an actual windows 8 machine (many of which won't boot from SD anyway which then solves the problem a second time).
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the storage of a galaxy note smartphone which is an arm device incapable of running windows 8, clearly I read it more than you did. As I also pointed out in my first post he then become completely ambiguous as to whether he is still talking about his note or an actual windows 8 machine (many of which won't boot from SD anyway which then solves the problem a second time).
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Well, the storage have nothing to do with processor, did you seen a usb drive with a arm processor?
And also windows 8 can be booted from a external storage medium. It just cant be fast as running it in hdd with sata interface
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Well, the storage have nothing to do with processor, did you seen a usb drive with a arm processor?
And also windows 8 can be booted from a external storage medium. It just cant be fast as running it in hdd with sata interface
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well actually usb devices do tend to have a processor on board, including arm ones occasionally, just usually with a few kb of ram at 10-20mhz and yes arm cores do go that low.
The original post says he can view the ntfs formatted SD card but cannot boot from it. So yes I am right in saying that the link to how to view ntfs storage is irrelevant as that point has been reached.
He is then saying he can't boot windows 8 on an ARM device, an ArM device cannot run windows 8 regardless of what type of storage is used. It is then confusing about whether he is now referring to a regular windows machine where again they cannot always boot from SD regardless of storage. On top of that I don't even think a galaxy note can boot from SD if provided with an operating system it can physically run.
Clearly you did not read what the problem was and lack the common knowledge than an ARM CPU cannot run an x86 OS which would cause the arm CPU to not recognise win 8 as a bootable operating system and leave it out from the boot list. A regular x86 pc which doesn't support booting from SD would also leave it off the list.
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well actually usb devices do tend to have a processor on board, including arm ones occasionally, just usually with a few kb of ram at 10-20mhz and yes arm cores do go that low.
The original post says he can view the ntfs formatted SD card but cannot boot from it. So yes I am right in saying that the link to how to view ntfs storage is irrelevant as that point has been reached.
He is then saying he can't boot windows 8 on an ARM device, an ArM device cannot run windows 8 regardless of what type of storage is used. It is then confusing about whether he is now referring to a regular windows machine where again they cannot always boot from SD regardless of storage. On top of that I don't even think a galaxy note can boot from SD if provided with an operating system it can physically run.
Clearly you did not read what the problem was and lack the common knowledge than an ARM CPU cannot run an x86 OS which would cause the arm CPU to not recognise win 8 as a bootable operating system and leave it out from the boot list. A regular x86 pc which doesn't support booting from SD would also leave it off the list.
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First. I opened a usb drive before. It only have a usb controller and a nand flash.
And I need to clarify this. X86 pc does support booting from sd card.
Just Google it if you still not sure.
And I have booted ubuntu on my pc using my phone. Search for an app called drivedroid
And also. He said he used mass storage mode to boot to win 8 using his phone. His phone is acting as a usb drive. It's super possible.
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First. I opened a usb drive before. It only have a usb controller and a nand flash.
And I need to clarify this. X86 pc does support booting from sd card.
Just Google it if you still not sure.
And I have booted ubuntu on my pc using my phone. Search for an app called drivedroid
And also. He said he used mass storage mode to boot to win 8 using his phone. His phone is acting as a usb drive. It's super possible.
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again, I said usb devices not specifically storage, and some usb controllers will indeed have a CPU on board, some will not.
you can come right here if you want and see my computers, I have 2 desktops, 2 laptops and 3 netbooks in my house. Neither desktop has an Sd reader but of the portable devices only 2 of them booted from SD (a dell inspiron 1525 laptop and brothers Samsung netbook) whereas the rest have no option in their bios boot order to boot from SD or otherwise, my laptop actually lists SD as a usb device for some reason which is probably how it booted from it, the Samsung netbook did list it as SD natively. All 5 laptops/netbooks booted fine from USB.
Of the 2 desktops one doesn't support USB booting either, will only boot from SATA or IDE (and it does have an IDE DVD drive).
I rest my case that not all devices support booting from USB or SD, nowadays USB is standard but one of the netbooks which wouldn't go from SD isn't even a year old.
I don't think android as mass storage actually exposes itself to bios correctly, it certainly doesn't give the system full rear/write permissions. It may well not support booting.
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again, I said usb devices not specifically storage, and some usb controllers will indeed have a CPU on board, some will not.
you can come right here if you want and see my computers, I have 2 desktops, 2 laptops and 3 netbooks in my house. Neither desktop has an Sd reader but of the portable devices only 2 of them booted from SD (a dell inspiron 1525 laptop and brothers Samsung netbook) whereas the rest have no option in their bios boot order to boot from SD or otherwise, my laptop actually lists SD as a usb device for some reason which is probably how it booted from it, the Samsung netbook did list it as SD natively. All 5 laptops/netbooks booted fine from USB.
Of the 2 desktops one doesn't support USB booting either, will only boot from SATA or IDE (and it does have an IDE DVD drive).
I rest my case that not all devices support booting from USB or SD, nowadays USB is standard but one of the netbooks which wouldn't go from SD isn't even a year old.
I don't think android as mass storage actually exposes itself to bios correctly, it certainly doesn't give the system full rear/write permissions. It may well not support booting.
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I need to agree on the first statement, but you do have to run sdcard in usbmode, so It will work on most modern pc, and drive droid somehow emulates a usb drive inorder to make the android devices looks as a hdd/usb drive
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I need to agree on the first statement, but you do have to run sdcard in usbmode, so It will work on most modern pc, and drive droid somehow emulates a usb drive inorder to make the android devices looks as a hdd/usb drive
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nothing I can do about SD cards on netbooks with integrated slots without an external adaptor in which case just use a god damned memory stick.
Drive droid does actually look like an interesting idea.
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nothing I can do about SD cards on netbooks with integrated slots without an external adaptor in which case just use a god damned memory stick.
Drive droid does actually look like an interesting idea.
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Yup, netbooks generally sucks for anything except web browsing tho.
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Yo 6677, nobody cares what PCs you have or how pedantic you can be about what the OP did or didn't say. The post was unclear; just request clarification. As for using Android UMS as a bootable drive, that actually should work (so long as it's UMS and not MTP) if you can mark the first partition as Active, which is likely not possible but I've never tried.as for permissions, the point of UMS mode is that you have raw, unbrokered access; there is no mechanism that *could* enforce permissions.
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Okay.......just to clarify....i dont want to run win8 on my galaxy note.....i want my galaxy note to act like a usb pen drive for any PC to boot win8 from my android. Btw, droiddrive only lets me make fat32 partitions. And i had already made the external sd card partition active. I wiped out the whole thing and decided to start small.....i took a 2gb card and formatted it to fat32 with dos booting......the pc booted into dos off my android perfectly. What went wrong with the win8 stuff?
It probably has something to do with Windows 8 requiring ntfs and xrivedroid not being able to mount it in such a way that it would work. That's my idea anyway
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Hi all!
I managed to get to make it boot!
It reaches the windows 8 boot logo and the spinning circle just keeps spinning on and on and on.....doesn't stop spinning but doesn't go further than that either.
When it does that, there is
a) No HDD activity
b) No response from Num Lock and Caps Lock key lights
c) No BSOD or response when the phone is unplugged
It's like it doesn't care. Just keeps spinning.
Any ideas to what could be wrong The drive is definitely NTFS, with extra space present. I've tried this on multiple PCs
I think I'll try making it again
Regards,
Xyan
I am reading up about optimizing of SSD drives and I'm seeing that Windows 8 is supposed to be pretty good with automatically deciding whether to optimize or defragment drives based on what they are (SSD vs HDD). But I have a problem. I just bought an SSD but under the Optimization menu it is showing up as a Hard Drive.
It's a brand new Samsung 840 EVO 500GB and I'm going to be using it solely for music and movies as an external drive. I also bought an Anker external SATA III to USB 3.0 enclosure. I have the drive recognized and everything under the File Explorer but I'm just a little nervous that it's listed as a Hard Drive under the Optimization menu. How can I get Windows to see that it's in fact an SSD?
Hmm. Leaving aside the fact that "solely for music and movies" is an absurdly pointless waste of an SSD (those are large, contiguous, non-latency-sensitive, moderate-to-low bandwidth files; in other words they are everything that a traditional magnetic disk is good at and an SSD is not) I would guess that the issue lies in the SATA3-USB3 conversion. If there's any drivers available for that enclosure specifically, you could try installing them (though they really ought to have installed automatically). Beyond that... does Windows even schedule automatic "optimization" of removable drives (presumably it *does* see your drive as removable)?
If I were looking for a portable media drive, I'd frankly just return that one and use the money to buy a traditional 2.5" HDD with 2-4x the storage capacity. There's literally not a single reason I can think of to use an SSD there unless you plan on dropping the drive a lot while it's in use (modern laptop drives will lock their heads if they sense a sudden drop, so even there the SSD has only a small advantage). Magnetic storage will give you much better capacity and probably last longer, too.
I got the SSD on a really good sale and I'm definitely not returning it, the price I paid for it was absolutely bonkers and I'd be foolish to return it. I figured I'd buy it because I never know when I'm going to see it for the cheap again. I got it for 150 bucks CAD. So when I get a bigger drive in the future I will have an SSD
The software that came with the SSD for some reason won't install and the Samsung software won't recognize the SSD. Windows saw it right away as a portable media drive and I went into disk management, created an MBR volume and formatted it under NTFS. This was the only solution because many other users of this SSD have had the same problems as me - it straight up won't be recognized by the software, presumably probably because of the USB 3 connection. That's ok though because the software is optional. This was suggested as a solution and it works perfectly, now I'm just worried about the drive being falsely defragmented by Windows.
Ah. Well, you could try installing the software using Compatibility Mode (maybe try Win7 first?) but it sounds like, whether or not the drive is in fact a great deal, it has lousy firmware. Unless you can flash an update to it that fixes the problem, your best bet would simply be to try making sure Windows never attempts to "optimize" the drive.
Of course, unless you remove or edit the files on there, there won't be any fragmentation anyhow. So attempting defrag probably wouldn't do anything in any case. Similarly, if you aren't deleting files then you don't need to TRIM their data, so the usual optimizations for SSDs don't matter much either. You might want to see if you can disable access-time updating for the drive though, as that's very wasteful on an SSD (you can globally disable access timestamps using fsutil, but I don't know if you can do so for a single drive on Windows).