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Is this the forum for repair advice? Digitiser recalibration

I dropped my phone and the screen now doesnt respond properly: The hardware DID successfully upgrade to the XDA ROM. But touching it causes the backlight to go on, - but most of the keys dont do what one would expect them to do: The phone turns on with a reminder from the calendar on the screen which wont DISMISS or CLOSE. Pressing on the windows logo and then on the phone key causes the calendar to come up and I am not sure which numbers are entered when I do manage to get the phone to come onto the screen (none of the right hand numbers seem to work at all). Does anyone recognise these symptoms and/or could they just show that my SX-56 needs the ROM RE-flashing? I should add that pressing the Master Reset button with this ROM in place seems to make the phone shut off and then when you restart it, all of the data remains in place. I wonder if there is any possibility that the XDA ROM has prevented the reset button from working normally?
A user on another forum said that to him, '"Sounds like the digitiser is up the swanee - have you tried recalibrating it?"
10-12 vertical black lines started appearing to the right hand edge of the screen. Sometimes they are there, sometimes not. THere is usually at last one there somewhere. At about that time the screen stopped responding as I mention. Today the left third started displaying the same veritcal lines, though spaced quite far apart (about a millimetre). Screen doesn't APPEAR cracked: Does this sound like a digitiser and if so, how do you recalibrate it please or is there a link to somewhere on the XDA site which I cant find which might tell me? Or could it be the cable is loose in the circuit board? As you touch the lower right hand corner of the metal casing where the vertical lines are, those lines flash (the right 10 or 12) on and off. And every coloured bar everywhere on the screen or word of text has vertical lines on it (the white parts don't)??
Someone on ebay has said that his phone "fell from my pocket and onto the carpet and the screen cracked, I then used it for about a week" "I sold the screen to someone cause the wanted the touch pad part of the screen for there phone". and wonder what it was he sold or which part can be replaced on it? IS there a touch part and a screen part on this phone?

To be honest, itsounds like you have brocken a connection somewhere between the LCD and the gfx output, probably not possible to repair yourself.

I wonder where the break would be?
I thought that might be the case: I wonder if it would be worthwhile trying to get another screen?
I should probably try to take the unit apart and see if some break somewhere can be identified if it is a break as opposed to some electonic part having failed. It SEEMS to be in the lower right hand corner?

Keypad + screen issues (after reassembling)

I took apart my tytn, including the screen part.
After reassembling it, I've had random issues related to the keypad and screen.
By keypad, I mean all the keys on the screen part of the phone (D-pad, call/hangup,soft left/right, Internet Explorer & Email).
They will randomly cease working and randomly restart working (usually after turn on/off the screen with the power button)
The screen will also randomly turn white and come back on only if I turn off the screen and then back on.
Im thinking it has to do with a loose connection somewhere in the screen section of the phone, however, Ive taken it apart 2 more times to check everything out and the problem persists.
I wonder if anyone experienced the same thing and found which specific internal is the issue.

i would like to know too cause my buttons just stopped working. so the talk, end, message, Internet explorer, ect. but the left down up right and center button work.

I have the exact same issue.
All the keys (not keybord keys) randomly stops working. I am so used to it now, that I dont even try to answer the phone with the green key button.
The screen fades to white, sometimes (maybe 1-3 times a day).
The screen is white when awakening from "sleep mode", turning on and off the screen fixes that after a while (50% of the time white screen when from sleep mode).
I have found out that putting a finger nail between the keyboard and the screen, on the right hand side, when in closed position, and then putting the screen back on, gives me a 99% chance of funktional display.
The problem also accurs in the "full keyboard position", But putting the finger nail in the same spot helps.
So I think the problem of the connection is in the keyboard part of the phone, since those slide contact always are on the right hand side, and the display contact shift side.
I would lite to know if any body have a permanent solution for this.
(I have now opend my phone yet, and I have tryed the putting thin plastic between the display and the cover, with minimal success)
thanks for your time

alkizmo said:
I took apart my tytn, including the screen part.
After reassembling it, I've had random issues related to the keypad and screen.
By keypad, I mean all the keys on the screen part of the phone (D-pad, call/hangup,soft left/right, Internet Explorer & Email).
They will randomly cease working and randomly restart working (usually after turn on/off the screen with the power button)
The screen will also randomly turn white and come back on only if I turn off the screen and then back on.
Im thinking it has to do with a loose connection somewhere in the screen section of the phone, however, Ive taken it apart 2 more times to check everything out and the problem persists.
I wonder if anyone experienced the same thing and found which specific internal is the issue.
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These are the exact symptoms of the "SCREEN FADING INTO WHITE" problem. See this thread for more info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=303872
The common causes for this are a bad connection to the D-PAD controller PCB (in the technical manual they mention it should be carefully checked and the really small screews with same torque making a 90 degree with the PCB), a bad controller (that was my case, had to order a new one) or not enough pressure on the square black chip on controller (some people seem to have fixed it by putting a plastic sheet in between the chip and the case, to apply constant pressure).
I suggest you try to re-open your phone and reconnect the D-PAD PCB as carefully as you can, double checking the connection and the screws there.
I did fix my problem, by ordering a new PCB and replacing the old (probably bad) one. It started to happen after I dropped my phone and it's the only thing that worked. Now my phone is as good as new.
Hope this helps!

Similar Issues with screen
I have similar issues;
Anything thats on the foreground gets closed by the 'x' button and if I slide it open the start button gets continually pressed!
Seems to be the top right corner of my TS thats at fault
sometimes it's fine....most of the time its not!
Andy.

I have the same! I have a huge dead spot in the middle of my (Tytn) screen, and if you tap there it actually activates the "ok" in the top right corner. The rest of the screen works ok. Whilst drawing in notes any drawing near the center dead spot results in a streak to the top right hand corner...
Bad screen?
Bad rom?
Bad motherboard?

lepic2019 said:
I have the same! I have a huge dead spot in the middle of my (Tytn) screen, and if you tap there it actually activates the "ok" in the top right corner. The rest of the screen works ok. Whilst drawing in notes any drawing near the center dead spot results in a streak to the top right hand corner...
Bad screen?
Bad rom?
Bad motherboard?
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You can rule out the ROM and M/board in my view for this specific problem. Your issue is very similar (and I think has the same cause) as those who find programs close randomly when in portrait mode and when they open the keyboard the start menu often pops up untapped.
I think this is just a case of a bit of pressure being put on the screen top right corner. Some folks have tried the business card run around under the bezel fix and had some success others have had to return for replacement/repair.
Some have taken the device apart and removed the gasket around the screen under the bezel, but this is not guaranteed to work.
Others have replaced the screen and for this particular problem it is very rarely successful as the screen is not normally damaged.
If you have a warranty use it - all of the above "fixes" are warranty voiding.
Mike

Hi Mike
It's an interesting problem as when performing a click and drag in Notes (drawing mode) the center section of the screen seems to work normally - a square box can select an area right through the middle of the screen - suggesting that the screen (as you say) is OK. So what is causing the a tap in the middle of the screen to register in the top right hand corner, when we now know that the center of the screen can work and respond in the correct manner. The size of the affected area is about the size of a thumb print EXACTLY in the middle. Personally I would like to believe that performing screen alignment 4 - 5 times a day for the past year has worn out the center dot and that is affecting the surrounding area. The trouble is that this fault has been reported on this site a few times now, and everyone says it's caused by something else! What did I do immediately before this happen I hear you ask? I flashed a new radio rom and was fiddling with a piece of card I have wedged down the RHS side of the screen to try and help stabilise the screen alignment. Since this problem arouse, I have removed the gasket - but that hasn't fixed it. I'm going to try and boot up the phone out of the casing to see what "zero" pressure applied to the screen does.
I'll report back...
Lepic.

lepic2019 said:
Hi Mike
It's an interesting problem as when performing a click and drag in Notes (drawing mode) the center section of the screen seems to work normally - a square box can select an area right through the middle of the screen - suggesting that the screen (as you say) is OK. So what is causing the a tap in the middle of the screen to register in the top right hand corner, when we now know that the center of the screen can work and respond in the correct manner. The size of the affected area is about the size of a thumb print EXACTLY in the middle. Personally I would like to believe that performing screen alignment 4 - 5 times a day for the past year has worn out the center dot and that is affecting the surrounding area. The trouble is that this fault has been reported on this site a few times now, and everyone says it's caused by something else! What did I do immediately before this happen I hear you ask? I flashed a new radio rom and was fiddling with a piece of card I have wedged down the RHS side of the screen to try and help stabilise the screen alignment. Since this problem arouse, I have removed the gasket - but that hasn't fixed it. I'm going to try and boot up the phone out of the casing to see what "zero" pressure applied to the screen does.
I'll report back...
Lepic.
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It will be interesting to see what results you get. You'll need the old rubber band technique to hold the battery in place while you do it!
Mike

Well it's not due to the case squishing the sides of the screen as I just dismantled my hermes, wired it all up in bits on my desk, powered it up and still the screen has a dead spot in the middle and phantom taps in the top right. Temperature is normal room temp, approx 22deg c today.
I'm not sure the exact mechanisms of how these touch screens work out where you are tapping (resistance, voltage), but it looks like there are 3 separate strips running around the screen. 1 goes straight across the bottom, two goes up the LHS and across the top and 3 goes up the RHS. Therefore there is a gap between strips 2 and 3 in the top RH corner. Coincidence? hmmm It seems to me for it to register a tap in the top RH corner, strips 2 and 3 would register low voltages (or high resistance) and bottom wouldn't register at all. Thus suggesting a fault with the PSU that powers the touchscreen. Taps near the edges work because they are near the edges and therefore the resistance is not too great and can be detected, taps in the middle and worse off because they are far from all the detecting edge strips.
Does anyone think that there might a registry tweak for boasting power to the touchscreen?

Hermes Whie Screen Problem
To fix the "white screen" problem, you have to take your unit apart, and reconnect the ribbon cable.
I have a new 8525 and it started happeneing to me, so I took it apart this week, and reseated the ribbon connector.
Fixed the problem.

Has anyone here read and understood all that is said here:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/library/aa919680.aspx

Perhaps someone could compare the touch.dll in Black Majik to WM5 - should be the same right?
How come that HKLM/hardware/devicemap/touch doesn't show the touch.dll driver as drivername? Keyboard has it's driver...microsoft says it should say drivername = touch.dll
Do you all have that in your registry?

Touch Screen Not working.. plz help.

Hi mates yesterday i bought a used herm...with excellent condition. but when i opened any dialog. the window closed automatically. and the screen light remains always on. and touch is creating problems.
and after some time the touch screen totally stop working. i dont know what happened. al the buttons are working fine. i upgraded my t-mobile herm to its original t-mobile wm6 rom. and again the touch screen is not working. and the screen light always stay on..
so is this hardware or software problem.?
guide me if you have any clue about this..
according to my thinking.. i think some button is pressed continuesly.. but everything is working fine.. only the touch is not working.

broken digitizer for the touch screen, buy a replacement lcd/digitizer together and replace yourself, about $100Aud. Use Mike Channons site to download the service manual. Use the search function and type in "htc service manual hermes".
As for the light, you will have to use your buttons to navigate to settings>system>backlight>battery power and external power. you can select how long the backlight remains on for.
Cheers...

Hi mate thanks for your reply.. Actually the situation is that. the screen is working perfectly. all buttons are also working perfectly. but suddenly the touch feature stopped working.
that time i was just opening some menus and they closed automatically. it looks like that there is some button pressed. and the screen light never stops. it continuously remains on. all buttons are working perfectly and everything. on the touch feature is not working.
i upgraded my device with genuine shipped t-mobile wm6 rom and again it stopped at the starting screen where i have to click the screen and the device brings the window for stylus adjustment.
so i wanna ask that is this also possible that some touch drivers are corrupted or something like this.? or is this a hardware failure.?
Kind Regards

I had same problem, it was hardware. Thats why I said to change the lcd. It is theoretically possible to replace JUST the digitizer, BUT, it is a MAJOR hassle.
As for getting past the alignment stage, look up Remote Screen Alignment. Its a cab file that stores the alignment settings on your pc. You WILL have to have a friend that has the same phone so you can get their settings as you need to copy them to your pc first. You can then copy the settings to your phone so you can use it until you replace that pesky lcd...
Cheers.....

I had a similar problem with my hermes. After a lot of investigating, I found out that this is a heat related issue with the hermes. The unit will heat up an some connection somwhere gets messed up and continually registers ghost taps on the upper right corner of the screen, which causes the continual opening and closing of programs/task manager. This overloads the phone which then causes the screen to eventually become unresponsive due to excessive computing.
With my phone, it must be heat related because it will only occur during or after heavy use or overcharging. Other people have had this exact problem with the conclusion being overheating. The worse part is, there is apparently no way to fix this, replacing the screen doesn't change anything. setting your screen alignment very far left will fix the problem but then everything you tap needs to be compensated for.
Good luck, hate to be the harbinger of bad news, but it's better to know whats wrong and that you can't fix it then not know whats wrong and keep trying to fix it.

same problem here... only my hermes is overheating already after 5 minutes use...
in the morning it works and when i put it in front of the airconditioning the touchscreen also works...
somebody who has an idea where to look for a solution??

kingsfan said:
same problem here... only my hermes is overheating already after 5 minutes use...
in the morning it works and when i put it in front of the airconditioning the touchscreen also works...
somebody who has an idea where to look for a solution??
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Some of the suggestions in the white screen thread/s might help. The problem is that those who have the heat related problem will find it very difficult to trace the actual fault. The heat may be causing miniscule expansions on the boards / components and connectors. The tiniest of cracks or poor connections can therefore break with the expansion.
Another theory is that rather than heat it might be a capacitor that is breaking down either over time or again through heating. Unless you are a skilled electronic engineer that is virtually impossible to check, particularly since schematics are not available.
You might just be lucky if you dismantled and re-assembled - it might just re-set a connector or adjust a board so it does not get affected in future. That would be very much a matter of luck and of course potentially the situation might be made worse!
Mike

Hi mates. I am back with some issue.. i moved my device to a repair center and he said that its a software issue. and he fixed my device without changing any rom.. i dont know how..
but again when i open some window like programs. the right scrollbar make a problem... when i move scrollbar it automatically press the top close button..i aligned my screen 3 times but same problem with right side scroll bar.
and after playing with it. the touch totally stopped.
now the thing is.all the buttons are working fine and everything is working fine. even sms and calls. but when i check sms and press my scroller button. it displays the right click menu instead of opening the sms. and the screen light is continuesly on. as something is pressed. so. i think this thing wil help. i am now trying this method to check my pc.
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-99.html
check this out as well.
i will send you details soon.

might just have something lodged between the case and screen.. also to get rid of the screen alignment, cable it up and delete welcome from the startup programs and then reset it.. should get you past it so at least you can use it until you repair your screen

Replaced Screen - No Joy

OK ordered a replacement screen with digitizer, despite only my digitizer being cracked (surprisingly everything still worked even touching in the damaged half of the screen) as I had read it was far easier to replace the whole screen.
Well I can tell you its still not that easy. After a slow struggle I did manage to swap the screens over, but alas no joy. The phone is probably starting up as there is the usual vibration after release of the power button. The screen backlight is on, but no display.
So now I come to the questions I probably should have asked up front, before ordering.
Are there different models of the screen ie different generations of HD2 have different screens? Is there a way to tell which one the old and new one are? I note that the YouTube video of a screen being replaced shows slightly different internals to mine, thus my suspicions regarding variations of screen.
Lastly would the Telstra Phone version have a different screen from the universal version of the same era?
I will pull it apart again this evening and see if I can see any obvious differences (or install errors) but if there is anyone with knowledge that can guide me as to whether I have the wrong version screen I would be grateful.
Cheers.

Continued
Opening up everything again shows both screens have the same HTC part number: 60H00295-DOP and similar serial numbers. So I reinstalled the old display - no change - a blank screen. Checked over all the connectors, ribbon cables, etc all look correct. So reassembled with the new display and performed a Hard Reset. This occurs as expected though with no display. All the buttons work and I hear a peep as the volume is raised up and down. The soft reset button causes the usual restart effect. I also note that back light comes on, stays on for 30 secs, then dims then turns off 30 sec later. I can even tell that the touch part is working as I can feel small vibrations to each touch and if I'm in the volume set screen and I touch where vibrate is I get the usual vibration confirming it has changed to vibrate mode.
It would appear that in the process of changing the display I have damaged the display driver chip or something along those lines as the other processes above tend to indicate the processor is still working and reading button presses, making sounds etc....very sad.

Screen becomes unresponsive to touch frequently

I've searched a good bit and wasn't able to find any information regarding the exact problem I'm having.
Bought a used G6 for starters
No water damage indicated by the sticker
The phone works great on the home screen and app drawer
I turned on dev mode to show touches
When you're in the camera it will stop responding to touches, you can still take pictures using the side buttons. The screen will become responsive again after a couple minutes. This whole time you can take pictures and the screen is functioning just not responding to touch
This happens also when you're loading web pages, even a Google search the screen will stop responding to touch and then eventually start responding again for a short while till you load another page or start moving around the page too quickly it seems. However again the screen is functioning, video previews are playing, just no response to touch.
Loading a game like Asphalt 8 the phone doesn't respond to touches until a couple minutes after the game has been fully loaded.
Even after a hard reset/factory reset the screen will sometimes be unresponsive upon the initial welcome/setup screen and then it will become responsive and you can go through the whole setup without an issue.
Any insight? Any suggestions? If I can't figure it out I'll just get rid of it but it's in great condition a shame it just doesn't function properly.
Thanks in advance!

Looks like some sort of hardware issue...
But before you start to worry...
This might sound like a stupid question but have you tried cleaning your screen with some cleaning solutions?
Sometimes dust mixed with dried sweat can cause severe touch responsiveness issues even if the screen looks like it's clean.

This is an older thread, but maybe I can help someone.
I replaced a touchscreen on a LG G6 and saw that the touchscreen did not work if the back cover was not mounted correctly and the data transfer between the phone and the fingerprint sensor was interrupted. This may be a common problem for users because the connector is small and the back cover is attached with a double-sided tape nearby this connector. It seems that the touch screen is disabled by the phone software without the back cover.

MaBaGeMiFlo said:
This is an older thread, but maybe I can help someone.
I replaced a touchscreen on a LG G6 and saw that the touchscreen did not work if the back cover was not mounted correctly and the data transfer between the phone and the fingerprint sensor was interrupted. This may be a common problem for users because the connector is small and the back cover is attached with a double-sided tape nearby this connector. It seems that the touch screen is disabled by the phone software without the back cover.
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Thank you so much for this comment!
My gf phone had problems lagging and becoming insensitive to touch, the problem got worse and worse, almost never responding anymore. Performed a factory reset etc, didn't help.
After reading your comment I tried pushing on the back cover while swiping. Now I'm able to revive the phone after pushing hard on the top and bottom left corners, of the back cover.
Thanks a mille !

Lg g6 has back panel from glass and under it you have contact for fingerprint sensor.Somehow if the back panel is loose it can cause touch fail,and you cant use the device touch function!
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So you will have to turn screen off using back button,and then try to press back glass on left and right side of the camera lens !
Then simultaneously press the power button and try to use the touch .
If it does not work tru again around camera lens and turn off screen each time you press the back glass!
For me it worked !