New FireTV Sticks (2020 edition) - Fire TV General

Hi,
Looks like Amazon released two new Fire TV Sticks (Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen and FireTV Stick Lite 1st Gen).
Both devices are running off a MediaTek MT8695D CPU and a PowerVR IMG GE8300 GPU and they come with 1GB of RAM (DDR4).
Apparently, Amazon decided to ship them with Android 9 (FireOS 7).
You can see the full device specs in the "Amazon Device Specification Page":
Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen
Fire TV Stick Lite 1st Gen
I'm wondering if somebody got one of those in their hands and could share with us their experience with them.
The Kernel Source Code can be found here or here (yes, both are the same zip, they just changed the name).
I also mirrored those sources in my github.
Here are some interesting articles that talk about those two devices:
Amazon Fire TV Stick, Stick Lite, and Stick 4K specs compared
Amazon Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen is Powered by MediaTek MT8695D SoC
The Fire TV Stick Lite could be Amazon’s next cheap streaming TV dongle
New 3rd-gen Fire TV Stick and Fire TV Stick Lite announced by Amazon
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If you're somehow interested, you can also find in the attachments some pictures of the Fire TV Stick Lite's motherboard (courtesy of @0815hoffi).
Regards!

Rortiz2 said:
Hi,
Looks like Amazon released two new Fire TV Sticks (Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen and FireTV Stick Lite 1st Gen).
Both devices are running off a MediaTek MT8695D CPU and a PowerVR IMG GE8300 GPU and they come with 1GB of RAM (DDR4).
Apparently, Amazon decided to ship them with Android 9 (FireOS 7).
You can see the full device specs in the "Amazon Device Specification Page":
Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen
Fire TV Stick Lite 1st Gen
I'm wondering if somebody got one of those in their hands and could share with us their experience with them.
As for now Amazon didn't released the Kernel Source Code: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201452680
Regards!
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Excellent share @Rortiz2 was looking at these Lite editions on another forum. Do you think may be possible with same fireos patched Linux similar to 4k unlock but with amonet instead of kamakiri? As you say, won't know until kernel is spilled or someone can grab a log of one.
Here is techdoctoruk review of one @Rortiz2
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Bertonumber1 said:
Excellent share @Rortiz2 was looking at these Lite editions on another forum. Do you think may be possible with same fireos patched Linux similar to 4k unlock but with amonet instead of kamakiri? As you say, won't know until kernel is spilled or someone can grab a log of one.
Here is techdoctoruk review of one @Rortiz2
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Hey,
Thanks for the video, looks interesting [emoji106]
About amonet/kamakiri I really dunno if somebody will work on that. I'm sure Amazon already patched the exploits we used in tank/mantis and they probably even disabled the USB DL mode (device not visible in bootrom mode). If bootrom is accessible (I really doubt as even some newer tanks have disabled usbdl), finding a new exploit would require a lot of time and knowledge so yeah, i'd say it will be kinda difficult to unlock the thing.
However who knows.. Maybe after 2 years somebody manages to unlock those two devices. Something similar happened with Fire Tablets (Released in 2015-2017 and unlocked in 2018-2019)..
Regards.
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Rortiz2 said:
Hi,
Looks like Amazon released two new Fire TV Sticks (Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen and FireTV Stick Lite 1st Gen).
Both devices are running off a MediaTek MT8695D CPU and a PowerVR IMG GE8300 GPU and they come with 1GB of RAM (DDR4).
Apparently, Amazon decided to ship them with Android 9 (FireOS 7).
You can see the full device specs in the "Amazon Device Specification Page":
Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen
Fire TV Stick Lite 1st Gen
I'm wondering if somebody got one of those in their hands and could share with us their experience with them.
As for now Amazon didn't released the Kernel Source Code: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201452680
Here are some interesting articles that talk about those two devices:
Amazon Fire TV Stick, Stick Lite, and Stick 4K specs compared
Amazon Fire TV Stick 3rd Gen is Powered by MediaTek MT8695D SoC
The Fire TV Stick Lite could be Amazon’s next cheap streaming TV dongle
New 3rd-gen Fire TV Stick and Fire TV Stick Lite announced by Amazon
Regards!
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Source code
https://fireos-tv-src.s3.amazonaws....ZPrH/FireTVStickLite-7.2.2.3-20200916.tar.bz2

0815hoffi said:
Source code
https://fireos-tv-src.s3.amazonaws....ZPrH/FireTVStickLite-7.2.2.3-20200916.tar.bz2
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Thanks, OP updated.

A full review now including the bench marks:
https://youtu.be/205UpjggP-I

Rortiz2 said:
Here are some interesting articles that talk about those two devices:
Amazon Fire TV Stick, Stick Lite, and Stick 4K specs compared
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The stick with the best specs (most RAM) runs an older OS than the new ones
Where the f*ck is that f*cking android pie update for the 4k?
I really hope nobody buys this crap, because there isn't any support at all.

Sus_i said:
The stick with the best specs (most RAM) runs an older OS than the new ones
Where the f*ck is that f*cking android pie update for the 4k?
I really hope nobody buys this crap, because there isn't any support at all.
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Yeah mantis and sloane are better indeed ?

Can anybody confirm, if these devices have the same issue as the cube 2 with some sideloaded app icons not showing?
I wonder if it is a problem just with the cube 2, or fire os 7 in general.

ASCiiDiTY said:
Can anybody confirm, if these devices have the same issue as the cube 2 with some sideloaded app icons not showing?
I wonder if it is a problem just with the cube 2, or fire os 7 in general.
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Yes i have the same Problem with Amazon Launcher.

0815hoffi said:
Yes i have the same Problem with Amazon Launcher.
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Mmm. Frustrating. I don't understand why they haven't patched this yet. If they want people to use the original launcher, stuff like this needs to stop happening.
This bug alone was enough to make me use a custom launcher for the first time in 5 years as an amazon user, got my cube 2 yesterday to replace my 2nd gen box.

My Post works on FireTV Stick Lite, but amazon Settings and AppStore not available.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=83704367&postcount=20

ASCiiDiTY said:
Mmm. Frustrating. I don't understand why they haven't patched this yet. If they want people to use the original launcher, stuff like this needs to stop happening.
This bug alone was enough to make me use a custom launcher for the first time in 5 years as an amazon user, got my cube 2 yesterday to replace my 2nd gen box.
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Actually its not a bug, if you see the logcats you will find out that on FireOS 7 the Banner icons of apps are downloaded from Amazon Servers and not from the apps.
So if the app is not Present on the store then there will be no icons

SweenWolf said:
Actually its not a bug, if you see the logcats you will find out that on FireOS 7 the Banner icons of apps are downloaded from Amazon Servers and not from the apps.
So if the app is not Present on the store then there will be no icons
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That's not 100% the case. Some side loaded apps still show a logo. There is a not very good work around here: https://www.aftvnews.com/how-to-fix-missing-or-broken-icons-for-sideloaded-apps-on-amazon-fire-tv/
I applied this fix to many apps, and it works, but obviously is no good when using apps that check app signature, and at least two apps I use, do this, so they won't work after rebuilding the apk.
Do you think Amazon did this on purpose? To make it sideloaded apps look nasty? Do you know any better fix? For now I'm using your launcher instead.

Rortiz2 said:
Thanks, OP updated.
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Hey, is this a link to new Firestick Lite firmware? anyway of extracting boot.img from firmware and patching with magisk then re inserting it patched back into the zip? Or will the bootloader need to be unlocked first and twrp before this is attempted? just a thought

Bertonumber1 said:
Hey, is this a link to new Firestick Lite firmware? anyway of extracting boot.img from firmware and patching with magisk then re inserting it patched back into the zip? Or will the bootloader need to be unlocked first and twrp before this is attempted? just a thought
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No,
Stock recovery only allows you to install signed zips (replacing something would already break the signature) and you can't manually flash zips in FireTV sticks/boxes (no such option in recovery mode).
Yes, you probably want an unlocked bootloader + TWRP in order to do such thing.

Hi there!
Whats going on?
Any mainboard pics out there?

Fire TV Lite
https://github.com/0815hoffi/FireTV-2k-4k-debloat/tree/main/FireTVLite

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Fire TV Lite
https://github.com/0815hoffi/FireTV-2k-4k-debloat/tree/main/FireTVLite
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Thanks,
I added those in the first post. If you want me to remove them just let me know.
Yes, It's a zip archive. Couldn't get the images to show up as attachments.
Regards.

Rortiz2 said:
No,
Stock recovery only allows you to install signed zips (replacing something would already break the signature) and you can't manually flash zips in FireTV sticks/boxes (no such option in recovery mode).
Yes, you probably want an unlocked bootloader + TWRP in order to do such thing.
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OK bro thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering as I'd seen something on 4pda about a guy managing to patch an android box on android 9 the way I described.
I forgot about the signature with the firestick. Thanks m8

Related

TV Out?

Nexus 7 TV Out?
I'm considering a purchase but like the idea of watching my movies on a hotels TV screen.
So is TV out possible with the Nexus 7 either with an RCA composite output via the 3.5mm headphone socket
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5M-Long-...#ht_1981wt_689
Or
Using something like this micro-USB to HDMI type connector?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-...#ht_4714wt_922
I was wondering this too,but couldn't findthe answer. with a mod ROM, special software and adapter, will it ever be possible to get any video out of the device?
Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, stick drive, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS.
theres no hdmi or any physical way to connect it to the tv yet. The best bet by the looks of it is by using a miracast dongle (which by the way, dont quite exist yet....) its basically another standard similar to DLNA, take a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso
Another possibility coming out soon is ESRLabs Android Transporter using the Raspberry Pi. My Raspberry will be here today, been wanting one to play with for a long time. Not ETA for the Transporter but hopefully soon.
My RP arrived today!
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That thing is cool.
I've been using Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) to beam my laptop incl. protected blue ray HD movies to my HD TV via belkins wireless adapter.
I wanted something like that for my N7.
I just emailed ETA about it and am awaiting their reply.
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That thing is cool.
I've been using Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) to beam my laptop incl. protected blue ray HD movies to my HD TV via belkins wireless adapter.
I wanted something like that for my N7.
I just emailed ESR about it and am awaiting their reply.
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tektools said:
I just emailed ESR about it and am awaiting their reply.
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Most likely not going to get a direct reply from ESR. The email address they have posted gets you on their Mailing List so when they have something to say they will post via that and their website. Can't imagine how many people are pinging them daily about their project.
I can't wait until they release something. Even at 150ms latency, for what I want to use it for it won't matter (not much of a gaming guy). Latency will have no effect on images, watching videos (netflix, google etc..) on the big screen which is where it will end up.
Another option is the HTC MediaLink.
Billy
JeepFreak said:
Another option is the HTC MediaLink.
Billy
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Doesn't that require an HTC phone though?
Cl8rs said:
Doesn't that require an HTC phone though?
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No it doesn't Jeepfreak is correct it works very well. But it is only for media viewing only. This does not output the N7 screen like MHL!
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Update
Got a reply from ESR! Ahss-sahm!
hi paul,
we received a Nexus 7 last week and are working on it. will keep you updated...
best,
gerd
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Got a reply from ESR! Ahss-sahm!
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Cool. figured they would be inundated.
I setup my RPi this weekend. have it now running headless with a WiFi dongle. Have it setup to work with both a DVI monitor and the big screen via HDMI.
Just streamed a full 1080p movie to the Big Screen from it, though the video was on the RPi not from another source. Output was flawless.
Can't wait to see their software and start doing the same from the Nexus 7.
I dont understand google.
They want to sell movies, but you cant connect it directly to a TFT / TV via HDMI or similiar to watch it on your big screen.
What went wrong there ?
ed.:
(Is it: Buy expensive wireless things from us so you don't need even a cheap dirty cable. ?)
krelvinaz said:
Cool. figured they would be inundated.
I setup my RPi this weekend. have it now running headless with a WiFi dongle. Have it setup to work with both a DVI monitor and the big screen via HDMI.
Just streamed a full 1080p movie to the Big Screen from it, though the video was on the RPi not from another source. Output was flawless.
Can't wait to see their software and start doing the same from the Nexus 7.
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I received my raspberry pi two weeks ago and LOVE it now that I have it running OpenELEC. Unfortunately I ordered from two different companies since the turnaround time sucked and just received the second one. Allied is super hard to get ahold of for refunds so I guess I'm just going to use the second one for the living room as soon as this gets released so I can stream Netflix.
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An USB-storage works with a GTO-adapter and the app Nexus Media Importer.
So for HDMI could there in future maybe also be an app to enable some kind of USB to HDMI-Adapter ?
"As of today, the company says that the shipping build of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean doesn't support the Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) which would allow it to double as an HDMI port, nor advanced USB On-The-Go (OTG) functionality."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3127278/nexus-7-mhl-usb-otg
Aww, looks like no mhl here. The point is that it wud have likely Increased the price. And the whole idea of "Google play" is that you don't HAvE to connect ur Tablet to TV, since all. Movies u bot or rented are available from any device on Google play site. My TV at home is internet enabled like a lot of TV s nowadays, so its easy. Also the reason they didn't bother with the storage ... its all supposed to be "web content viewer" type thing. The problem is WiFi or internet is not as common. Outside of some countries like the us or so.
Very good points.
Playing games wireless on the big screen isn't supported yet, is it?
Here in Europe lot of people don't trust the clouds, as they don't know where their data is stored and therefor by which laws it is protected.
As to me and new TV's including wifi streaming:
I try to buy devices to last very long because of the embodied energy a device needs to get produced.
So until a new device doesn't saves more energy then the old cost, or it stops working, it will be used.
(Most devices need more energy to get produced then they consume in their short living time, not to talk about the toxic byproducts... )
I have also a Mediaplayer with wifi, but it is still more complicated to switch it on and switch to streaming instead of plugging the cord of the TV to the Tablet.
Of course to be wireless is/would be a nice thing, but eg. I wouldnt like to sleep next to the wifi router...
splotz said:
I dont understand google.
They want to sell movies, but you cant connect it directly to a TFT / TV via HDMI or similiar to watch it on your big screen.
What went wrong there ?
ed.:
(Is it: Buy expensive wireless things from us so you don't need even a cheap dirty cable. ?)
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They want you to buy the NexusQ (whenever they decide to bring it out again)
Update! Just released: http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
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46. warDNo
Aw. That looks amazing but having to install custom firmware is overkill. Just got a Nexus 7 and a Nyko blue tooth controller. Little disappointed there's no way to get the display on a television, guess I should have done my homework first

[Q] Now it's 2014 is the Nexus 10 still worth buying?

Hi,
I've been wanting a tablet for a while now, and I have my eye on the Nexus 10, it's reasonably priced, and has been since it came out, it has an amazing display etc. etc.
But it's really quite old now, I've looked around and there's very much mixed views, I know exactly what I want from a tablet, and I was wondering if the Nexus 10 would be perfectly fine. I know the 2nd Gen. version is supposed to be coming out soon, but if this tablet does everything and want and is cheaper, what's the point in buying the newer one?
Anyway, basically I want a tablet that can easily to the following things:
Browse the internet
Watch movies
Browse Facebook
Be easily able to use Instagram
Easily able to use Snap Chat
Play games
Easily customisable (eg. Home screen backgrounds)
Have a decent front a back back camera
Updates to the latest version of android as soon as it's released
Feels good in the hand
Looks pretty good
Decent battery life
I'm pretty sure the Nexus 10 should be fine for most if not all of this, but I thought I'd check. One thing I think might help if you think I could get a better tablet for a decent price (preferably no more than £300) is that I really like the shape on the Nexus 10, but I really hate the shape of the Nexus 7. I don't know why, it's just one if those things I guess.
Thank you
Tbh I was in the same predicament as you a couple of months ago. I wanted a tablet for pretty much the same reasons as u as I'm working away from home quite often.
I've already got a Nexus 5 purely for stock android, timely updates and a great device at a great price so I thought I'd check out the Nexus 10 first. I stumbled across Expansys selling the 32gb model for £255 whereas it was still down as £390 on the playstore and I'm pleased to say I'm chuffed with my purchase. Even the tab is quite old in tech terms it's still fast, the screen is amazing and I got 4.4.3 automatically yday.
I rooted both my devices today too so that's only improved the experience. I would recommended getting the 32gb to be on the safe side but unfortunately Expansys only seem to stock the 16gb version now. However ebays worth a look, I got my dad a mint 32gb nexus 10 with a case for £260.
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Hi,
For everything you're saying Nexus 10 is a beast and you'll be very happy with your acquisition. Let me specify a little more on each topic:
Browse the internet
Nexus 10 has a reasonably good internet browsing ability, as I'm often far from my laptop I'm using it most of time. In lastest updates Chrome Beta has showed some issues (white screen with nothing, reoppening the app will fix it), but I think soon an update will be released to fix it.
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Watch movies
Front facing speakers and a 2K (qHD) screen, you'll not be disappointed. Watched lots of movies and animes in it already, must say it's a great experience.
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Browse Facebook
There's a dedicated Facebook app, but with the 10" screen you can set up web browser Facebook to show up as desktop, it works very good. I'm not a Facebook fanatic, so I don't use it too much, however every time I use it, it's not bad.
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Be easily able to use Instagram/Easily able to use Snap Chat/Have a decent front and back camera
I put those 3 together for one reason. Tablets were not born to take pictures, while the camera isn't bad, you don't have a good either. This video was recorded using the front facing camera:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKjZFW4p9z0
With my experience, the pictures of back facing seem a little whiteish, personally I don't like it too much... Here's an example:
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Never used those two apps on the other hand, but I don't expect them to be too good on any tablet out there.
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Play games
I have tons of games on mine xD. It's very pleasant to play Dead Trigger 2 on such a high resolution screen, completed Katawa Shoujo Visual Novel on it (8 hours gameplay lol), also many others. While some games like Modern Combat 4 and NOVA 3 were downscaled, but most games run pretty well and have good resolution. Just keep in mind low resolution games will look horrible, due to big screen and huge screen resolution
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Easily customisable (eg. Home screen backgrounds)
Man, you're on Android. You can customize anything you want. The way you want. If you don't like Stock Homescreen, then download another one (I, for example, use NOVA Launcher, because it's the one that I like at most). If you want a ridiculously easy app to customize, then use Themer .
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Updates to the latest version of android as soon as it's released
Soon the Android update policy will end for Nexus 10, but the next update is very likely to arrive on Nexus as soon as it will be released. Also it has a great dev support, so it's very likely we will continue to have updates for a long time
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Feels good in the hand
Yes it feels. I got a case (Poetic Case + keyboard) and with it the feel is good too.
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Looks pretty good
Very subjective matter, I like the design. Don't know if you'd like, just search for pics in the net hahaha!
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Decent battery life
9,000mAh battery. I get 4-5 hours screen on time easily! With moderate usage, with heavier usage I get 3h30min-4hours usage . So it's an amazing battery life.
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~Lord
From what I read a kindle fire hdx would better suit your needs.
Best display around. Snapdragon 800. Nothing more to say.
The display outclass nexus display and is better then iPad air.
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I second @XxLordxX
Also. The nexus 10 has one of the best if not the best gpu and awesome roms and kernels to make it even better.
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Khaon said:
From what I read a kindle fire hdx would better suit your needs.
Best display around. Snapdragon 800. Nothing more to say.
The display outclass nexus display and is better then iPad air.
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I've used a fire.. dont know on the HDX, the its not very configureable. Its not a real droid.. its a neutered. I'd rather have a true droid than that monstrosity I have (I own a first gen kindle fire)
scythefwd said:
I've used a fire.. dont know on the HDX, the its not very configureable. Its not a real droid.. its a neutered. I'd rather have a true droid than that monstrosity I have (I own a first gen kindle fire)
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Hi,
AFAIK Kindle Fire HDX also run FireOS, which is the customized version of Android by Amazon, so I don't think you'll have something too different from your current Fire. I'm not an expert on FireOS though, the best would be to find some reviews and videos about it, then you'd have a good idea of what you'd get .
Usually I read from Android Authority, here's their tablet review:
http://www.androidauthority.com/kindle-fire-hdx-7-review-315172/
~Lord
XxLordxX said:
Hi,
AFAIK Kindle Fire HDX also run FireOS, which is the customized version of Android by Amazon, so I don't think you'll have something too different from your current Fire. I'm not an expert on FireOS though, the best would be to find some reviews and videos about it, then you'd have a good idea of what you'd get .
Usually I read from Android Authority, here's their tablet review:
http://www.androidauthority.com/kindle-fire-hdx-7-review-315172/
~Lord
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its customized.. the same way mac is a customized version of next step. without root, which breaks things, you cannot do much to your desktop, very little configuration is available to the system, no play store and if you sideload theres a good chance it wont work (like chrome).

Razer Forge TV - Everything Mojo should have been

http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
I, Like most of you are probably watchign coverage of CES 2015 and have stumbled across a new Android Powered Device called the Razer Forege TV that sounds very simliar to what the Madcatz Promised with the Mojo. Unlike what the Mojo was i strongely think the Forge TV will deliver.
$99 for the Device
$80 for the Controller
$150 for Device and Controller
$40 for Software to Run Computer games on Forge TV
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).
totally agree
mejdam said:
http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-forge-tv
I, Like most of you are probably watchign coverage of CES 2015 and have stumbled across a new Android Powered Device called the Razer Forege TV that sounds very simliar to what the Madcatz Promised with the Mojo. Unlike what the Mojo was i strongely think the Forge TV will deliver.
$99 for the Device
$80 for the Controller
$150 for Device and Controller
$40 for Software to Run Computer games on Forge TV
$120 for Keyboard and Mouse
If this device didnt have google cast and android tv i wouldnt even consider purchasing especially after my experience with the Mojo from Madcatz (another gaming hardware company).
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totally agree with you man , i will buy this item later maybe later this year :good:
interesting, why get that if you have a mojo (edit you can install lollypop now), it's not a step up soc wise... just get a shield tablet!
The controllers look very inspired by CTRLR, ie the phone clip.
Nothing like MC's latest controller!
http://store.madcatz.com/Mad-Catz-L...oller-for-Android-Smartphones-Tablets-PC.html
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gwaldo said:
interesting, why get that if you have a mojo (edit you can install lollypop now), it's not a step up soc wise... just get a shield tablet!
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lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
kgersen said:
lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
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I have not been able to work on it as I am busy with school. I believe in the next android release 5.0.3 we will see more android tv devices and I will be able to properly get the Google apps since the adt-1 is outdated I need an arm device with android tv and the nexus player is x86. With the razer being released I can get a dump of it and pull the apps I need. The only thing that didn't work for me was the playstore after it updated. Cast receiver does work I may boot it up today and mess with it since I have the adt-1 too.
If we could get something running similar to this on the mojo I'd be a happy happy boy... That being said, with the current custom ROM it's basically all I need bar a few minor tweaks anyways
kgersen said:
lollipop ROM != android TV ROM
There is no 'working' Android TV ROM on the mojo yet.
working = chromecast receiver works, netflix (Android TV version, aka ninja ) works, etc (everything that is Android TV specific and that work on the Nexus Player for instance)
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im a bit confused, where does one get a working android cast apk that works with the mojo?
mejdam said:
im a bit confused, where does one get a working android cast apk that works with the mojo?
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If you mean a cast receiver app so the mojo can act as a chromecast , afaik you can't.
The official app for this is called 'Google Cast Receiver' it's available on the Play Store here but it's not installed on the mojo.
The source code was release by Google too here: https://code.google.com/p/android-cast-mirrored-source/
Some people tried and managed to get the app working here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/hardware-hacking/chromecast/app-cast-receiver-app-android-t2900726. i tried the 'signed' version on the mojo, it's not working. I then tried the system-install version, the process is running and the mojo is seen as google cast device...but when casting it only displays a big red X (or a version mismatch error for Netflix). According to the topic, this app uses complex DRM security to protect some contents (Netflix for instance) and without the proper certificates (and so official hardware) it doesn't work anymore.
This should be awesome if they do it right? I am kinda bummed its Quailcomm and not NVidia surprised coming from a gaming company they would choose a processor that isn't known for its gaming ability?
Also there is Snail Games OBox coming which is NVidia . Can be upgraded anytime by changing module!
Forge TV
The Razor Forge TV is nothing special. It's just like the MOJO just running android TV. 16gb onboard storage is a joke, and the system will still not be able to run every game. I see no interest in the Razor Forge TV, and I have a hard time understanding why it won the best of CES. It's seriously nothing to be so happy about. I just think this box is a total failure, and has brought nothing special to the living room.
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The Razor Forge TV is nothing special. It's just like the MOJO just running android TV. 16gb onboard storage is a joke, and the system will still not be able to run every game. I see no interest in the Razor Forge TV, and I have a hard time understanding why it won the best of CES. It's seriously nothing to be so happy about. I just think this box is a total failure, and has brought nothing special to the living room.
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It's because it's the first android TV box officially announced. The mojo in my opinion is better. Two USB ports micro sdcard and we also have Android TV port near fully functional. The setback for me is Google has yet to support external storage devices in android TV.
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It's because it's the first android TV box officially announced. The mojo in my opinion is better. Two USB ports micro sdcard and we also have Android TV port near fully functional. The setback for me is Google has yet to support external storage devices in android TV.
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The mojo was $250 with a controller (and a mandatory controller so if you already have BT controllers it was a waste).
ForgeTV will be $150 with a controller (optional controller so only $100 if you already have BT controllers).
The SN 805 beats the Tegra 4 everywhere: http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582
Same RAM and internal storage.
One the 2 USB ports of the Mojo is for the controller dongle. So practically 1 usb port each.
ForgeTV ethernet port is 1Gbps, Mojo port is 100Mbps.
16Go is enough because you can have as many as you want of external storage with an USB OTG storage (sd/stick,sdd, hd,etc).
According to the a XDA Nexus Player forum topic that external storage can also be used for apps (using some mounting apps).
I fail to see where the mojo is better. really. even more that Mad Catz practically abandoned it.
and so far "Android TV port near fully functional" is a one man job (you) and not guaranteed.
kgersen said:
The mojo was $250 with a controller (and a mandatory controller so if you already have BT controllers it was a waste).
ForgeTV will be $150 with a controller (optional controller so only $100 if you already have BT controllers).
The SN 805 beats the Tegra 4 everywhere: http://www.androidauthority.com/tegra-k1-exynos-5433-snap-805-541582
Same RAM and internal storage.
One the 2 USB ports of the Mojo is for the controller dongle. So practically 1 usb port each.
ForgeTV ethernet port is 1Gbps, Mojo port is 100Mbps.
16Go is enough because you can have as many as you want of external storage with an USB OTG storage (sd/stick,sdd, hd,etc).
According to the a XDA Nexus Player forum topic that external storage can also be used for apps (using some mounting apps).
I fail to see where the mojo is better. really. even more that Mad Catz practically abandoned it.
and so far "Android TV port near fully functional" is a one man job (you) and not guaranteed.
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We will just have to wait and see about that. Have a little surprise tomorrow.
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You big tease lol
Having been at CES and having got hands on time on the Forge TV here is my take. I think that Razer should have added a second USB port and SD storage. In my opinion these 2 things will be a disadvantage. They did, however, bring some welcome improvements over the MOJO in the full Gigabit Ethernet and the entire UI. There is no doubt that the Forge TV is much more a consumer friendly product. However, from what I could tell from talking to folks at CES this is not going to be able to be easily rooted nor allow custom backup options. I could be wrong and just talked to the wrong folks (this was my first CES). The 2 areas that I thought the Forge really out did the MOJO was in it's ability to Stream almost any game from almost any PC (not just those running NVidea) to the forge. I tried a couple of high end games and they ran flawlessly. This will be huge because you will no longer need to really on 3rd party apps and subscription services such as OnLive to do this.
I was not impressed with the Serval. To me it was just another controller and at an $80 price point found it to be extremely over priced. I also have come to truly appreciate the media buttons on the CONTRLr and find the lack of them on the Serval to be disappointing. This is after all going to function as a remote as well as a controller.
The Turret was just the opposite. I was blown away by it. This is the first laptop keyboard I have used that feels good. It really feels and responds like a gaming keyboard. The mouse having a low level of magnetism so it stays where it is when you let go is fantastic. Only downside I had is that I have large hands and the mouse was on the small side. Along those same lines though, the key spacing was just enough that I did not feel cramped when typing.
In the end will I be buying any of these? I will most definitely be purchasing the Turret. Most likely a couple of them. I will also most likely be picking up a Forge TV down the road as well. As for the Serval, unless Razer rethinks the price point or I can get it at a Black Friday level discount I will be passing on this. It just does not bring anything to the table that any other Bluetooth controller doesn't and at half the price or less.
Unjustified Dev said:
We will just have to wait and see about that. Have a little surprise tomorrow.
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Did I miss the surprise?
I'm keen to see what MINIX are about to release for their control pad. I'm getting pics in a few days as well as a test unit soon.
From what they've told me it is supposed to make touch games playable so I keep thinking of a PS4 controller type of thing
Sir Jaxxy said:
Did I miss the surprise?
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Follow the development forum.
gwaldo said:
Follow the development forum.
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Yeah I just got caught up over there.
Sir Jaxxy said:
The 2 areas that I thought the Forge really out did the MOJO was in it's ability to Stream almost any game from almost any PC (not just those running NVidea) to the forge. I tried a couple of high end games and they ran flawlessly. This will be huge because you will no longer need to really on 3rd party apps and subscription services such as OnLive to do this.
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According to Razer web site (http://www.razerzone.com/cortex/stream), the streaming feature isn't specific to the Forge and will work on any Android 5.0 device.
The end game for Razer with the Forge is more to sell the accessories (Serval and Turret) than the console itself. That is where the high margins are. Peripherals are still their core business after all.

All NEW Fire TV Cube Beats 4k Firestick & 2nd Gen FireTV !

Positives
Amazing Performance
Dolby Vision, Dolby Atmos, Netflix and Youtube in 4K 60fps
Adaptive frame rate switching.
Can control all other A/V equipment
8 far-field mic (no need to use remote to control Alexa)
Android 9
Negatives
1 Micro USB port only
No Built-In Ethernet
32bit OS
No HDMI cable supplied
You can see a full review with 4K video, gaming, benchmark tests against 4K Firestick / Nvidia Shield / 2nd Gen FireTV here
And mtk too?
Rortiz2 said:
And mtk too?
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The CPU is the ARM Amlogic @ 1.91 GHz (1 processor, 6 cores)
Intenti0n said:
The CPU is the ARM Amlogic @ 1.91 GHz (1 processor, 6 cores)
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Ok thanks
Then IDK if it's worth to buy it since amlogic can't be exploited like with amonet?
Regards.
Rortiz2 said:
Ok thanks
Then IDK if it's worth to buy it since amlogic can't be exploited like with amonet?
Regards.
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Can be exploited this, just donate to @xXhighpowerXx for hack Amlogic devices
Not a great buy at the moment IMO. You can usually get deals for the FireTV 4K Stick for ~$25. The cube is more than 3x the price.
Why would you invest so much in the cheap crappy devices? Might as well jsut get a real Android TV box.
TimmyP said:
Why would you invest so much in the cheap crappy devices? Might as well jsut get a real Android TV box.
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Well I like Amazon devices and when side loaded with the right apps they work very well, I was using the Amazon Fire TV 2nd Gen (the flat square one) which I still think was Amazons best. I saw a Cube going a lot cheaper so bought one and well so far it's working great. The trouble with my old 2nd gen was the low on storage issue even though it was not really low on storage I think Amazon as slipped something on there to make it look as if the storage was low. The Cube I think is not a cheap crappy device at all and I would not go back to an Android box, ever.
Some other cons..
1. Amazon Game Controllers are no longer supported
2. Many sideloaded app icons show blank
I love mine though regardless of it's faults, with custom launcher anyway. Was finally worth the upgrade at prime day prices from my 2nd gen fire tv box.
2. Many sideloaded app icons show blank
Yes have a couple of apps were the icon does not load but they still work OK, but it does spoil the Cube. Also when I used my old TV 2nd gen (flat one) my amp would be turned up to 2 to 3 lights this Cube as to be turned up 5 to 6 lights so there is also a sound issue.
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Well I like Amazon devices and when side loaded with the right apps they work very well, I was using the Amazon Fire TV 2nd Gen (the flat square one) which I still think was Amazons best. I saw a Cube going a lot cheaper so bought one and well so far it's working great. The trouble with my old 2nd gen was the low on storage issue even though it was not really low on storage I think Amazon as slipped something on there to make it look as if the storage was low. The Cube I think is not a cheap crappy device at all and I would not go back to an Android box, ever.
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But you are on an Android box. You are rooting your device to make it closer to an Android box. You are basically telling people you prefer the Android software over native Android then what in gods name are you doing on XDA?
OK I see your point the Cube runs on Android and as for rooting to be honest I have no idea how to root
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2. Many sideloaded app icons show blank
Yes have a couple of apps were the icon does not load but they still work OK, but it does spoil the Cube. Also when I used my old TV 2nd gen (flat one) my amp would be turned up to 2 to 3 lights this Cube as to be turned up 5 to 6 lights so there is also a sound issue.
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Yes, it completely ruins the UI. I use Wolf Launcher instead. Would of returned it and carried on using 2nd gen box if no custom launcher..
..and not supporting their own controller, forcing me to sell it and use an xbox pad.. really ****ty move on their part.
Other than that though, yeah.. it's without a doubt the best amazon device.
If they put an Android TV version of All4 on the store though, I'd probably buy a shield. I also have games and apps I paid for on Amazon, which stops me getting a shield.
i think the broken icons are to do with the server where amazon gets its apps/icons from. when we install our apps the appstore cross references the apk and its icon/logo/banner with the ones on its server. if the apk isnt recognised on amazons server it presents it as a broken icon. i think there is a way round the broken icon thingy if you google atvlauncher trek icon design there is an icon generation page that lets you create your own in fact here is the link http://atvlauncher.trekgonewild.de/
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i think the broken icons are to do with the server where amazon gets its apps/icons from. when we install our apps the appstore cross references the apk and its icon/logo/banner with the ones on its server. if the apk isnt recognised on amazons server it presents it as a broken icon. i think there is a way round the broken icon thingy if you google atvlauncher trek icon design there is an icon generation page that lets you create your own in fact here is the link http://atvlauncher.trekgonewild.de/
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If it was the server then why is this only happening on the Cube my Fire TV 2nd gen is OK as is my friends stick
pr1uk1 said:
If it was the server then why is this only happening on the Cube my Fire TV 2nd gen is OK as is my friends stick
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The Sloane is an older model, that means older version of android so probably more availability of icons.
I'm only surmising now but it's possible the icons maybe device specific and that more are available for the Sloane version of firmware?
I did read something about the broken icons being caused by certain apps for certain devices not being available from amazon app store.

Fire OS 7 for 4k Firestick?

I really want that new google tv launcher for my 4k stick. However app requires minimum android 8. Will there ever be fire os 7 (android 9) update for this device? Or is it possible to port this app to fire os 6?
burcbuluklu said:
I really want that new google tv launcher for my 4k stick. However app requires minimum android 8. Will there ever be fire os 7 (android 9) update for this device? Or is it possible to port this app to fire os 6?
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i dont think they will push an oreo/pie update through to mantis 4k . The reason being is that theyve just produced these new crap 3rd Generation Pendants/sticks and also the Lite Edition . So basically instead of upgrading the OS of the best devices (Mantis & Sloane ) they have been greedy and produced more devices to encourage people to spend more .
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How much diff in hardware ability between Amzn 4K & new Google Stick?
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How much diff in hardware ability between Amzn 4K & new Google Stick?
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Benchmarking the new Fire TV Stick Lite & Fire TV Stick 3 against every other Fire TV model
Now that the new 2020 Amazon Fire TV Stick 3 and Fire TV Stick Lite have been released, it's time to see how they stack up against existing Fire TV models, past and present.
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If you can find a google stick benchmark test...
I had one and returned it 2 days ago . It;s similar in speed but I must say the launcher is pretty sweet. I returned it caused it was mad buggy for me I would get constant blue screens while using it . Even after a reload then I realized how much I value my 4k mantis as Iused root more than I realized and its Highly customized how I want it .

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