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Nexus 7 TV Out?
I'm considering a purchase but like the idea of watching my movies on a hotels TV screen.
So is TV out possible with the Nexus 7 either with an RCA composite output via the 3.5mm headphone socket
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-5M-Long-...#ht_1981wt_689
Or
Using something like this micro-USB to HDMI type connector?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Micro-USB-...#ht_4714wt_922

I was wondering this too,but couldn't findthe answer. with a mod ROM, special software and adapter, will it ever be possible to get any video out of the device?
Nexus 7 16gb, unlocked, rooted, stick drive, trinity 7 kernel, stock OS.

theres no hdmi or any physical way to connect it to the tv yet. The best bet by the looks of it is by using a miracast dongle (which by the way, dont quite exist yet....) its basically another standard similar to DLNA, take a look here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b52zqNIeQso

Another possibility coming out soon is ESRLabs Android Transporter using the Raspberry Pi. My Raspberry will be here today, been wanting one to play with for a long time. Not ETA for the Transporter but hopefully soon.

My RP arrived today!
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That thing is cool.
I've been using Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) to beam my laptop incl. protected blue ray HD movies to my HD TV via belkins wireless adapter.
I wanted something like that for my N7.
I just emailed ETA about it and am awaiting their reply.
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That thing is cool.
I've been using Intel Wireless Display (WiDi) to beam my laptop incl. protected blue ray HD movies to my HD TV via belkins wireless adapter.
I wanted something like that for my N7.
I just emailed ESR about it and am awaiting their reply.
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tektools said:
I just emailed ESR about it and am awaiting their reply.
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Most likely not going to get a direct reply from ESR. The email address they have posted gets you on their Mailing List so when they have something to say they will post via that and their website. Can't imagine how many people are pinging them daily about their project.
I can't wait until they release something. Even at 150ms latency, for what I want to use it for it won't matter (not much of a gaming guy). Latency will have no effect on images, watching videos (netflix, google etc..) on the big screen which is where it will end up.

Another option is the HTC MediaLink.
Billy

JeepFreak said:
Another option is the HTC MediaLink.
Billy
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Doesn't that require an HTC phone though?

Cl8rs said:
Doesn't that require an HTC phone though?
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No it doesn't Jeepfreak is correct it works very well. But it is only for media viewing only. This does not output the N7 screen like MHL!
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Update
Got a reply from ESR! Ahss-sahm!
hi paul,
we received a Nexus 7 last week and are working on it. will keep you updated...
best,
gerd
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Got a reply from ESR! Ahss-sahm!
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Cool. figured they would be inundated.
I setup my RPi this weekend. have it now running headless with a WiFi dongle. Have it setup to work with both a DVI monitor and the big screen via HDMI.
Just streamed a full 1080p movie to the Big Screen from it, though the video was on the RPi not from another source. Output was flawless.
Can't wait to see their software and start doing the same from the Nexus 7.

I dont understand google.
They want to sell movies, but you cant connect it directly to a TFT / TV via HDMI or similiar to watch it on your big screen.
What went wrong there ?
ed.:
(Is it: Buy expensive wireless things from us so you don't need even a cheap dirty cable. ?)

krelvinaz said:
Cool. figured they would be inundated.
I setup my RPi this weekend. have it now running headless with a WiFi dongle. Have it setup to work with both a DVI monitor and the big screen via HDMI.
Just streamed a full 1080p movie to the Big Screen from it, though the video was on the RPi not from another source. Output was flawless.
Can't wait to see their software and start doing the same from the Nexus 7.
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I received my raspberry pi two weeks ago and LOVE it now that I have it running OpenELEC. Unfortunately I ordered from two different companies since the turnaround time sucked and just received the second one. Allied is super hard to get ahold of for refunds so I guess I'm just going to use the second one for the living room as soon as this gets released so I can stream Netflix.
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An USB-storage works with a GTO-adapter and the app Nexus Media Importer.
So for HDMI could there in future maybe also be an app to enable some kind of USB to HDMI-Adapter ?
"As of today, the company says that the shipping build of Android 4.1 Jelly Bean doesn't support the Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL) which would allow it to double as an HDMI port, nor advanced USB On-The-Go (OTG) functionality."
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3127278/nexus-7-mhl-usb-otg

Aww, looks like no mhl here. The point is that it wud have likely Increased the price. And the whole idea of "Google play" is that you don't HAvE to connect ur Tablet to TV, since all. Movies u bot or rented are available from any device on Google play site. My TV at home is internet enabled like a lot of TV s nowadays, so its easy. Also the reason they didn't bother with the storage ... its all supposed to be "web content viewer" type thing. The problem is WiFi or internet is not as common. Outside of some countries like the us or so.

Very good points.
Playing games wireless on the big screen isn't supported yet, is it?
Here in Europe lot of people don't trust the clouds, as they don't know where their data is stored and therefor by which laws it is protected.
As to me and new TV's including wifi streaming:
I try to buy devices to last very long because of the embodied energy a device needs to get produced.
So until a new device doesn't saves more energy then the old cost, or it stops working, it will be used.
(Most devices need more energy to get produced then they consume in their short living time, not to talk about the toxic byproducts... )
I have also a Mediaplayer with wifi, but it is still more complicated to switch it on and switch to streaming instead of plugging the cord of the TV to the Tablet.
Of course to be wireless is/would be a nice thing, but eg. I wouldnt like to sleep next to the wifi router...

splotz said:
I dont understand google.
They want to sell movies, but you cant connect it directly to a TFT / TV via HDMI or similiar to watch it on your big screen.
What went wrong there ?
ed.:
(Is it: Buy expensive wireless things from us so you don't need even a cheap dirty cable. ?)
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They want you to buy the NexusQ (whenever they decide to bring it out again)

Update! Just released: http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
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46. warDNo
Aw. That looks amazing but having to install custom firmware is overkill. Just got a Nexus 7 and a Nyko blue tooth controller. Little disappointed there's no way to get the display on a television, guess I should have done my homework first

Ouya vs The World (Comparisons and why Ouya has much competition)

I figured nobody else had started this thread already, and it'll be a great starting point for discussions of Ouya up against it's brothers-in-Androids in your market. This is NOT an Ouya bashing thread, merely a compare and contrast between the newly flooding market of miniature Android powered devices.
Now, to begin, I would like to first point out that I do own multiple Android powered devices, but none which are mentioned here in this post, so please don't cry "fanboy" as I have 0 allegiance to anything except Android. And yes, I'm kicking myself for not getting in on the Ouya kickstarter (even though I had multiple chances).
Ouya is poised to become the next big multimedia console to enter the consumer market and home, and it's got quite the uphill battle ahead of it. There's already plenty of small low-powered Android devices either announced or already released which fill one niche or another. While Ouya markets itself primarily as a game console, the fact that it runs Android means that it's got to compete with every other low-powered Android device which feasibly can accomplish everything the Ouya can. I'll expound on this further.
Ouya vs ...:
Google TV. Starting at the same price point for the VIZIO Co-Star, this device provides more than enough power in a small frame to power your perfect TV setup, providing internet access as well as local network streaming for your entertainment needs. Now, while the Google TV platform is marketed as a STB, it's still a competitor in mild/moderate gaming as well as web content accessibility. With the fact that Google TV is synonymous with "everything Google, now on your TV," Ouya's name will lend to confusion as to what it really is for the mass market in the beginning, hurting intial adoption rates outside the Android community.
Win: Google TV, brand recognition.
Raspberry Pi. Starting at a paltry $25, this little low-powered Android stock device is actually quite a surprising little power house. All manner of network appliances have been developed around this hardware, and with the drivers for most of the hardware being provided for other flavors of Linux, it's range and scope is expanding fast. While again, only techies will really know what the Pi is, it's heavily marketed (ignore the fact i'm using this term loosely) towards Android and computing enthusiasts as a replacement for all those things that are big, hot, and noisy. This little gem has already received more builds of Linux than I can count, a port of XBMC that can easily handle streaming 1080p without a sweat, it really comes down to accessibility. In the long run the Ouya is pricier, and for those just looking for a cheap XBMC device, you can't beat the Pi at $25. That and it's kawaii-small.
Win: Raspberry Pi, price point.
nVIDIA Shield. In the closest thing to apples to apples comparison of devices based on how they're marketed, we have the nVIDIA Shield, the Tegra 4 powered nVIDIA Android handheld gaming console (announced). This little gamer's wet dream is a powerhouse in your hands, and throw in the ability to play your PC games on the handheld thanks to special integration with the nVIDIA graphics processor on your PC, and you've got an almost universal system to enjoy anywhere, anytime. Again, being that it's Android, don't expect that it won't be without it's ports of XBMC and many many other wonderful pieces of software to further enhance the cost-to-value ratio of this handheld. Being that this is the closest competitor to the Ouya, it's worth noting that there are a few caveats to the Shield which bring it down. As of this writing, the "Play PC" feature is heavily Steam oriented (not a bad thing), will likely require Multi-Band Wireless N (MIMO) (not prevalent, likely have to buy one), and the biggest bullet to chew on, a whopping GeForce GTX 650 (cheapest on Newegg as of writing $110 new) in order to enjoy this device to it's fullest. While the Ouya lacks this functionality to begin with, it brings it down, but this feature feels more like a power-play by nVIDIA than something that could end up becoming mainstream.
Win: Ouya, will integrate with everything you already have provided tools and/or apps are provided to link it, no need to upgrade everything around it to make full use of it.
Mods: Sorry for the perceived dupe topic, I was at work getting calls every 15 minutes interrupting me for upwards half an hour after I started writing this just after lunch.

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I myself was wondering how the similar, android-based GameStick would fair against the Ouya. It has similar characteristics and from what I have seen will be released to those who pre-ordered around the same time as those who backed the Ouya.
Although I have seen a few comments about the Ouya and GameStick as being (or not being) competitive, I would like to here what your guys' thoughts are on the topic.
GameStick was also first on kickstarter, check it out:
(Read the updates as well, there were some major ones!)
->GameStick Page<-

Raspberry Pi is an educational device,and can't handle anything worthwhile.

When i was doing the backing for Ouya, i wasn't really aware of Gamestick project itself. Now had a check on the video and both the guys looks same in terms of strategy and Games, even the game store !
But i assume the Ouya hardware is bit better than the Gamestick one.
I could feel only one challenge they going to face - GAMES !! and more GAMES!
But we all know - we all will end up in flashing a custom mod into this thing :laugh:

Feelings about the OUYA
I just hope that the OUYA is all it has been hyped up to be. I don't want to see a box with some Allwinner A10, a gig of RAM, and a modded version of the Google Play store. I want to see a full on Android gaming console with dev support and proprietary games and add-ons. I really hope that when the OUYA gets dropped, it has a major impact on the console market.

BasedChefJoeyB said:
I just hope that the OUYA is all it has been hyped up to be. I don't want to see a box with some Allwinner A10, a gig of RAM, and a modded version of the Google Play store. I want to see a full on Android gaming console with dev support and proprietary games and add-ons. I really hope that when the OUYA gets dropped, it has a major impact on the console market.
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It doesn't have the power or support to make an impact on the realm that Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo occupy.

cmdrdredd said:
It doesn't have the power or support to make an impact on the realm that Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo occupy.
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Because obviously we all want to play call of duty 14 or whatever braindead sequel is served up on the pop machines (you know, just like pop music, no creativity and sold to the herd of sheeps)
I look forward to some real creativity in gaming which hopefully the indie dev will be able to bring to Ouya
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Raverbunny said:
Because obviously we all want to play call of duty 14 or whatever braindead sequel is served up on the pop machines (you know, just like pop music, no creativity and sold to the herd of sheeps)
I look forward to some real creativity in gaming which hopefully the indie dev will be able to bring to Ouya
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I would love to see the Ouya find it's niche as the premier indie console, gawd knows none of the big three (M$, Sony, Nintendo) have really welcomed the indie devs. Check into the "Indie Game" movie, and you'll see what I'm saying. If Ouya welcomes the indie developers (which it sounds like they are), then they'll have plenty of backing from new blood which will eventually draw the bigger names to capitalize on a market they can make more in.

BasedChefJoeyB said:
I just hope that the OUYA is all it has been hyped up to be. I don't want to see a box with some Allwinner A10, a gig of RAM, and a modded version of the Google Play store. I want to see a full on Android gaming console with dev support and proprietary games and add-ons. I really hope that when the OUYA gets dropped, it has a major impact on the console market.
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NVIDIA Tegra3 quad-core processor
1GB RAM
8GB of internal flash storage, expandable via USB 2.0 port
Up to 1080p HD (via HDMI)
5.1 surround sound
WiFi 802.11 b/g/n, and Ethernet port
Bluetooth
Micro USB port
Wireless Bluetooth controller with standard game controls and touchpad
the web says this..

I'm not impressed by the examples. Google TV is Google's take on Roku, Boxee Box, and Apple TV. Not a game console.
My Raspberry Pi, while freaking cool, is most definitely NOT a gaming console. It doesn't have the power, the games, or any of that. It's not even a computer, it's a little wonder box that I put in the middle of projects.
The Shield is pretty cool I'd say, and yes, it's a gaming console. But I keep my Nexus 4 on hand always and I like to keep my pockets lightweight and I don't need one extra gadget or pocket filled. And so I don't understand why people say Shield will have a better fate than the OUYA. In the end it's just an Android with an excellent processor and a fancy controller slapped on it. If it's more than $250 there's no way I'll buy it. I don't care about the PC game streaming. It's a completely different social segment from what I can tell. And most of you, I can guarantee, don't even have the specified graphics setup to begin with.
This is a TV console for $100. OUYAs only professional opposors at the moment: Wii Mini ($100), and gamestick.tv ($80)... I suppose Xbox 360 has a few options, but they will end up costing you at least $200 to enjoy without games from my person experience.
And maybe, a budget Xbox quite soon. But you and me both know that the Xbox "720" and/or PS4 will be very expensive, maybe $400 or so. And the Wii U is already pricey, low functionality and low on the games. And Nintendo is paying the price.
Google TV, Roku, Boxee Box, Apple TV are Streaming Boxes, which all somehow cost as much as this fully featured box. I enjoy my Roku but it can barely get Angry Birds right... Angry Birds.
Microsoft and Sonys latest consoles as well as the new Valve segment are most likely destined for the mid hundreds ($300-$550)
The Xperia Play was unfortunately DOA, and even the promising PS Vita and nVidia Shield are absolutely positively handheld systems, not TV consoles.
So we have a chance of dominating this side of the market if we can beat the experience of other $100 gadgets that hook up to your TV, feature, function, and marketing wise.

Cynagen said:
I figured nobody else had started this thread already, and it'll be a great starting point for discussions of Ouya up against it's brothers-in-Androids in your market. This is NOT an Ouya bashing thread, merely a compare and contrast between the newly flooding market of miniature Android powered devices.
Now, to begin, I would like to first point out that I do own multiple Android powered devices, but none which are mentioned here in this post, so please don't cry "fanboy" as I have 0 allegiance to anything except Android. And yes, I'm kicking myself for not getting in on the Ouya kickstarter (even though I had multiple chances).
Ouya is poised to become the next big multimedia console to enter the consumer market and home, and it's got quite the uphill battle ahead of it. There's already plenty of small low-powered Android devices either announced or already released which fill one niche or another. While Ouya markets itself primarily as a game console, the fact that it runs Android means that it's got to compete with every other low-powered Android device which feasibly can accomplish everything the Ouya can. I'll expound on this further.
Ouya vs ...:
Google TV. Starting at the same price point for the VIZIO Co-Star, this device provides more than enough power in a small frame to power your perfect TV setup, providing internet access as well as local network streaming for your entertainment needs. Now, while the Google TV platform is marketed as a STB, it's still a competitor in mild/moderate gaming as well as web content accessibility. With the fact that Google TV is synonymous with "everything Google, now on your TV," Ouya's name will lend to confusion as to what it really is for the mass market in the beginning, hurting intial adoption rates outside the Android community.
Win: Google TV, brand recognition.
Raspberry Pi. Starting at a paltry $25, this little low-powered Android stock device is actually quite a surprising little power house. All manner of network appliances have been developed around this hardware, and with the drivers for most of the hardware being provided for other flavors of Linux, it's range and scope is expanding fast. While again, only techies will really know what the Pi is, it's heavily marketed (ignore the fact i'm using this term loosely) towards Android and computing enthusiasts as a replacement for all those things that are big, hot, and noisy. This little gem has already received more builds of Linux than I can count, a port of XBMC that can easily handle streaming 1080p without a sweat, it really comes down to accessibility. In the long run the Ouya is pricier, and for those just looking for a cheap XBMC device, you can't beat the Pi at $25. That and it's kawaii-small.
Win: Raspberry Pi, price point.
nVIDIA Shield. In the closest thing to apples to apples comparison of devices based on how they're marketed, we have the nVIDIA Shield, the Tegra 4 powered nVIDIA Android handheld gaming console (announced). This little gamer's wet dream is a powerhouse in your hands, and throw in the ability to play your PC games on the handheld thanks to special integration with the nVIDIA graphics processor on your PC, and you've got an almost universal system to enjoy anywhere, anytime. Again, being that it's Android, don't expect that it won't be without it's ports of XBMC and many many other wonderful pieces of software to further enhance the cost-to-value ratio of this handheld. Being that this is the closest competitor to the Ouya, it's worth noting that there are a few caveats to the Shield which bring it down. As of this writing, the "Play PC" feature is heavily Steam oriented (not a bad thing), will likely require Multi-Band Wireless N (MIMO) (not prevalent, likely have to buy one), and the biggest bullet to chew on, a whopping GeForce GTX 650 (cheapest on Newegg as of writing $110 new) in order to enjoy this device to it's fullest. While the Ouya lacks this functionality to begin with, it brings it down, but this feature feels more like a power-play by nVIDIA than something that could end up becoming mainstream.
Win: Ouya, will integrate with everything you already have provided tools and/or apps are provided to link it, no need to upgrade everything around it to make full use of it.
Mods: Sorry for the perceived dupe topic, I was at work getting calls every 15 minutes interrupting me for upwards half an hour after I started writing this just after lunch.
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You got it completely wrong. None of those are real competitors to the OUYA. Google TV is... hold your breath... TV. It has the ability to run games but that's neither its purpose nor its strength. Raspberry is an amazing low cost miracle. As one of the early adopters I can say that you won't spend 25$ (or whatever the price was back then) better. But comparing it to a Tegra3 device in terms of gaming is a joke, right? The SHIELD is intended for the hardcore gamers. Unlike the OUYA it can stream PC games, it's portable, has better hardware... and costs more. Those two will more likely benefit from each other than compete, because the OUYA will have the numbers and the SHIELD will have the raw power to make big developers look at Android more seriously.
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tkolev said:
You got it completely wrong. None of those are real competitors to the OUYA. Google TV is... hold your breath... TV. It has the ability to run games but that's neither its purpose nor its strength. Raspberry is an amazing low cost miracle. As one of the early adopters I can say that you won't spend 25$ (or whatever the price was back then) better. But comparing it to a Tegra3 device in terms of gaming is a joke, right? The SHIELD is intended for the hardcore gamers. Unlike the OUYA it can stream PC games, it's portable, has better hardware... and costs more. Those two will more likely benefit from each other than compete, because the OUYA will have the numbers and the SHIELD will have the raw power to make big developers look at Android more seriously.
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I never once said that these devices were in direct competition (only in the respect to they share Android space), just that based on what people know of each device, how they may compare them, and which ones would come out on top. Most of these devices are semi-interchange-able, but if you have simple needs (like XBMC), then there are better alternatives out there for you (in this case Pi). This was to highlight some of the strengths of Ouya's perceived competitors. The only real direct competitor is the SHIELD, which in it's own right is still a generation ahead, literally.

To be frank I just got my Pi and it's a pain in the butt, I am still periodically working on making the SD card perfect so the darn thing will boot. At the initial launch, the optimized Tegra 3 and 1GB RAM will blow the Pi's tech out of the water. And if we can push it to a second release we'll have a Tegra 4 SoC and most likely at least 2GB RAM.
I really think this OUYA project is going to benefit from Nvidias support. Let's be honest, Nvidia makes the best graphics tech in the PC market. The best. Really. They've been doing this for a very, very long time. And I think it's going to upstage the Qualcomm 800.

my Galaxy S3, with MHL hdmi connection, plus sixaxis bluetooth controller... bigger specs than an ouya and does exactly the same thing... no wait, it does more!

devnut said:
my Galaxy S3, with MHL hdmi connection, plus sixaxis bluetooth controller... bigger specs than an ouya and does exactly the same thing... no wait, it does more!
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and wait... it costs 5 times more.

devnut said:
my Galaxy S3, with MHL hdmi connection, plus sixaxis bluetooth controller... bigger specs than an ouya and does exactly the same thing... no wait, it does more!
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So your S3 core runs with 1,7ghz and never downclock.
Because the ouya has a powersupply and don´t need to save any batterie.
Also the android on ouya is cut down to a minimum of ressources to give the game more power.
It will only be a matter of time to have ouya games which will not work on any S3 or Note2 or other devices with tegra 3 or equal.

devnut said:
my Galaxy S3, with MHL hdmi connection, plus sixaxis bluetooth controller... bigger specs than an ouya and does exactly the same thing... no wait, it does more!
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I think we better compare the respective categories based on the space they are in..
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OOH-YAA :highfive: :good:

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OOH-YAA :highfive: :good:
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Anyways, back on topic! If the Pi is as "Pi"tiful as everyone is claiming, then the biggest names the Ouya will have to deal with will be the Google TV (which has huge brand recognition), and the nVidia SHIELD (again, brand recognition, and better hardware). Ouya doesn't have to topple either of these platforms, each has their niche, but can easily be extended to include the extra functionality needed. The Google TV platform may not have the powerful graphics processor to keep up with demanding games, but for artsy 2d kids games, no problem. Why buy a new system (that you likely know nothing about), when you can just extend the capabilities of your already existing Google TV installation by rooting and working with that? SHIELD is more of a direct competitor as it's seeking the gaming market that's been woefully ignored in terms of mobility, and while the Ouya will likely be a better item for the simple fact that you're going to get some good mileage out of the platform for $100, it still has to compete with brand recognition, which is overall going to hurt the Ouya. The only people really aware of the Ouya are kickstarter backers, and the Android enthusiast community. There's been plenty of press, but I've dropped the name Ouya in conversation with some of my other tech-oriented friends and gotten blank stares which tells me that there's not enough marketing going out to inform the masses of the product. Word of mouth is great, especially in tech-oriented circles, but outside of that, they're falling short. In reality, this all boils down to Ouya vs their marketing department.

If you and your friends are like me everytime I visit a Walmart, Target or Amazon online the first place I visit is the electronics dept. So, come June they will definitely srart having exposer to the OUYA.

[Q] Ouya or MK908 for HTPC Use ?

Hello,
Since a few weeks I am wondering about what device could I possibly use to play my videos on TV. Basically, they would be videos from ny NAS, with XBMC. Ouya seems like the perfect candidate for it, as it supports XBMC very well and the feedbacks are really good.
But, it is actually 99$. Thought it would be 90$. Well, it's still 10$ more. So as I was ready to order it today, I saw that I can have a MK908 for something like 75 euros.
So XBMX only, maybe install utorrent on it too, so I could sell my Nas and plug a external HDD on the Ouya/MK908: It would became my main media center/download station
What would be the best choice for me ? Thanks

alexagna said:
Hello,
Since a few weeks I am wondering about what device could I possibly use to play my videos on TV. Basically, they would be videos from ny NAS, with XBMC. Ouya seems like the perfect candidate for it, as it supports XBMC very well and the feedbacks are really good.
But, it is actually 99$. Thought it would be 90$. Well, it's still 10$ more. So as I was ready to order it today, I saw that I can have a MK908 for something like 75 euros.
So XBMX only, maybe install utorrent on it too, so I could sell my Nas and plug a external HDD on the Ouya/MK908: It would became my main media center/download station
What would be the best choice for me ? Thanks
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Probably the MK908 or Tronsmart T428. The RK3188 is a lot more powerful than Tegra 3.

Yes I saw that, but the Ouya is actually supported by the XBMC team, where the usb sticks aren't. So this is why I am wondering if the thing would be stable or not, if it could handle 1080p mkv files from ethernet, etc

I have an ouya and its really grown on me, xbmc is very snappy. and it has a native controller and ethernet (too many things can go wrong streaming 1080p over wifi in my experience). So when you think about it thats actually a better deal than those other products.And like the other poster mentioned its an official sponsor for xbmc so you know the native development will be there.

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I have an ouya and its really grown on me, xbmc is very snappy. and it has a native controller and ethernet (too many things can go wrong streaming 1080p over wifi in my experience). So when you think about it thats actually a better deal than those other products.And like the other poster mentioned its an official sponsor for xbmc so you know the native development will be there.
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Yeah, the thing that makes the Ouya a bit better for me is the ethernet connection. That and it seems like it would have less heat issues. But the heat issue is kind of a guess on my part. Oh, and Tegra 3 (with associated graphics) is quite a big better than Tegra 2 or the dual core chips. Not so much from the extra cores but the graphics chip improvements.
Then again, it's nice to get pure Android, which Ouya is not (yet).

Well I don't care about pure android, I know that within days or weeks the first stock roms will come for Ouya..
And, yes, the ethernet port is quite important for me as long as I use my NAS(which I'd like to sell to use only the Ouya and an external HDD), but a USB>ethernet adapter is something like 5$ on dealextreme so this is not what'll make a big difference between the two.
Quad core is tecnically better, but tegra 3 is better for everything video-related, is that it ? And yeah , Ouya is bigger then those sticks so no heat problem. If I want it to be on 24/7, that'd be an issue on the usb sticks I think ..

alexagna said:
Quad core is tecnically better, but tegra 3 is better for everything video-related, is that it ? And yeah , Ouya is bigger then those sticks so no heat problem. If I want it to be on 24/7, that'd be an issue on the usb sticks I think ..
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They're both quad core. The Tegra isn't actually better at anything as the RK3188 has a pretty much identical cpu - quad core ARM Cortex A9 and has a Mali 400MP4 gpu which is much faster than the Geforce ULP in the Tegra.
The OUYA does have a big advantage in that it has a fan on it so it'll be more stable. With a stick you could improvise using something like a usb fan but it wouldn't look so pretty.
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I have a MK808 which runs pretty fast and I love it. The PROBLEM is controller support. EVEN if you get more then 1 controller connected, they all read as the same controller. You also have very make-shift support. My Android Stick is AWESOME for $50 but it just doesn't do multiplayer support, which sucks. Even getting a gamepad setup is a pain. Typically requires a custom firmware to include the pad.xo module.
So it depends on what you want to do with the unit. If it is just for watching/streaming video content, whichever is faster. I've had absolutely no issues with gaming on my MK808 dualcore and it handles PSx and N64 games almost flawlessly. The only drag is, again, the multi-controller support and the stock Android user interface can be a pain unless you have a USB Airmouse. OUYA is designed to be controlled via the controller.

Yes, it'd be for the sole use of XBMC- maybe some emulators or download apps but it would not be the main use. Multiplayer support is not needed as I don't intend to use more than 1 controller(I am not even sure whether I'll use the Ouya one or not, except to play emulators but again it is not the main use)

I ordered an MK808 many moons ago for HTPC. But I could never get it to work right, it stopped working altogether with a particular TV (the one I needed it most). Plus, I had to buy a USB-ethernet jack because streaming was weak. Obviously, that's the old model, but you get my drift.
With that in mind, the sticks are decent for video playback. But for native XBMC support and less tinkering, I'd just pay the extra cash for the Ouya. If you don't plan on using the controller, you can probably get around $20-$30 for it on Ebay - haven't looked. Since they're $50 new, I'd imagine you'd get at least 50%. Ouya on Amazon no tax = $99/shipped - $25 for controller = $75 total shipped.
They should expand their platform, I know they really want to be a console but the fact remains *a lot* of people are buying these as Android TV boxes. The other TV boxes run their own platforms. This one allows people to use android apps. Market another SKU that is $79.99 without a controller and comes with a basic remote. Plus, we can just use our Xbox controllers.

You definitely get what you pay for. The Android Sticks are wonderful and powerful enough to do what you want but they are finicky. The MK808 had WiFi issues with the antenna. I had to add an external antenna to get 4 out of 5 bars with it sitting right on top of my router. You also have to find a Android Stick whose chipset is officially supported by XBMC if that is something you want to to.
I believe the MK808 has official hardware-accelerated playback now using XBMC. The Android Sticks are usually much cheaper also, typically around $50.
I am pretty excited about the Ouya but at this time, I can't see paying another $100 to essentially achieve multiple controller support. The MK808 already does everything I need it to aside from allowing multiplayers, which is not only hardware restrictive, but most emulators don't support multiple players either.
I do like how the Ouya's Interface is designed around a controller input though, so it would make it much more enjoyable to use. The Gyro Mouse/Keyboards work well but can be annoying after prolonged use.

I have the MK808, the MK908 stick look exactly the same, base on my experience there is a good chance you might get very poor WiFi performance and need the router very near it. What I found with these devices is the graphical performance somehow isn't optimized so 3D gaming doesn't seem to be as good comparing to the cellphone counterpart with the same hardware. Maybe its better to get the box type with more dedicated ports.
Playing HD videos as long as you can get hardware support and you have a good GPU it can suffice. The Tegra 3 running the hardware accelerated test build of XBMC can handle all the HD contents.

Agreed. The Sticks are great toys but support is scattered. The Ouyas backing hopefully will yield greater support. Eventually the Ouya will see unique development outside standard Android apps. Hopefully it will blossom.
I'm already seeing lots of neat apps and features similar to Nvidia Shield with remote PC play and great regards in terms of performance.
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The MK808 already does everything I need it to aside from allowing multiplayers, which is not only hardware restrictive, but most emulators don't support multiple players either.
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Almost every emulator supports multiple controllers
On subject: from what I have read the MK908 is having some issues playing 1080p smoothly. Something to do with poor drivers from the manufacturer. Its effecting every newer stick running that processor.
The Ouya has handled all 720p fine but 1080p stutters a slight bit. I was watching Gangster Squad last night and its an MP4 coming in at 4gb. It played smooth I'd say for bout 90% of the movie and had some stutters on and off but nothing below like a 5fps drop as measured by XBMC.
In the long run the MK908 and Ouya (anyone else think its hilarious Ouya autocorrects to Libya Lol) both cost $100 and while the Mk908 is more powerful the Ouya will see far more developer support, plus it plays great games. I just wish it supported IR out of the box
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Almost every emulator supports multiple controllers
On subject: from what I have read the MK908 is having some issues playing 1080p smoothly. Something to do with poor drivers from the manufacturer. Its effecting every newer stick running that processor.
The Ouya has handled all 720p fine but 1080p stutters a slight bit. I was watching Gangster Squad last night and its an MP4 coming in at 4gb. It played smooth I'd say for bout 90% of the movie and had some stutters on and off but nothing below like a 5fps drop as measured by XBMC.
In the long run the MK908 and Ouya (anyone else think its hilarious Ouya autocorrects to Libya Lol) both cost $100 and while the Mk908 is more powerful the Ouya will see far more developer support, plus it plays great games. I just wish it supported IR out of the box
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I'm sure the majority of the emulators do, but most hardware can't decipher between controller 1 or controller 2 outside a simple setup such as WiiMotes. I've never been able to connect more than 1 dual analog joystick and play properly.
Someone said it best: [paraphrasing] "The Ouya's biggest hand over all others is simply, Multiplayer."

I own both
I own both. Ouya wins hands down. This is based on device build quality and support community. Getting RK3188 sticks just to work properly doing the most basic things can be a real crap shoot.
Though the MK908 has better specs on paper very rarely do these media sticks run full out. Probably due to heat issues.
Currently my MK908 has a major heat problem. So hot i cant even touch it. Just watching Netflix will overheat the stick so it crashes. It got so bad that my power supply melted. I wasn't even over clocking or using a performance profile.
I only bought the Mk908 because the Ouya took so long to ship.
Hope this helps.
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I figured I'd post back, incase you're still wondering about this. I got my Ouya setup for it to be a TV box. Running the CM Experimental build located in the development section has yielded excellent results. Spotify works, Dish Anywhere works perfectly (allows me to stream/watch-live-tv without buying another "Joey" and paying the lease fee). Very stable, very fast.
My Xbox360 USB controller works fine with it, so I sold the Ouya controller. Got $49/shipped for it (*shrug*).
For this to be a good media player, you might want to invest in:
- Powered USB Hub (only has one port), so you can run a mouse + controller / etc.
If you want music without having a TV on (if you don't have a receiver with HDMI), you can get a USB audio chip. They're $8 - apparently the Syba SD-CM-UAUD works with Android. Since this doesn't have an audio out port.

Portable Gaming and the Shield Tablet. Lets discuss options

With the release of the tablet, some people were saddened at the fact that they couldn't portable game anywhere, similar to what you could do with the original Shield Portable. Especially since it doesn't have built in controls like the portable or other handheld devices
But that certainly can't be the end of it. It should still be possible to play anywhere like with the Shield Portable, with an attachable Gamepad, or a gameklip type of device
Here is one add on that apparently works with the Shield Tablet. not sure if it'll work in gamestreaming, but from what i've heard so far, it works great with android emulators.
- Ipega PG 9023
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2. Another is called the utorcase
http://www.shapeways.com/model/2491653/ps4-controller-nvidia-shield-tablet.html?materialId=25
Anyone here have any other options, or ways to turn their tablet into a portable game machine? Certainly there have to be more attachable gamepads, or better ways to mount your tablet to your controller, without the feeling being too bulky.

Hello,
Gamepad Ipega 9023 really surprised me, exactly I was looking for something like this, though perhaps with this gamepad + tablet will be a problem to reach with your thumb on the touch screen display when the index finger on R1 or R2 button. I am now waiting until I arrives, then we'll see
gameklip utorcase - it can be a problem. Problem is center of gravity, the device is heavier, this will not be comfortable to holding for me.
I prefer to gaming on tablet Toshiba Encore 8 with Windows 8.1, where I play GTA4 or Crysis 1 without streaming and long battery life.
I show you my invention - ​​gamepad with which you can easily control First person shooter game with a thumb riding the touch screen display and special ergonomics - buttons below the display .Gamepad is very small and mobile.
Counter-Strike: Source
Crysis 1:

John6670 said:
With the release of the tablet, some people were saddened at the fact that they couldn't portable game anywhere, similar to what you could do with the original Shield Portable. Especially since it doesn't have built in controls like the portable or other handheld devices
But that certainly can't be the end of it. It should still be possible to play anywhere like with the Shield Portable, with an attachable Gamepad, or a gameklip type of device
Here is one add on that apparently works with the Shield Tablet. not sure if it'll work in gamestreaming, but from what i've heard so far, it works great with android emulators.
- Ipega PG 9023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixFXcDQbrQM
2. Another is called the utorcase
http://www.shapeways.com/model/2491653/ps4-controller-nvidia-shield-tablet.html?materialId=25
Anyone here have any other options, or ways to turn their tablet into a portable game machine? Certainly there have to be more attachable gamepads, or better ways to mount your tablet to your controller, without the feeling being too bulky.
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Either that PS3 controller has lead in the grips or this is staged. Seems no way the weight would keep it from tipping.

I think that's a faux-tablet for displays. Also, that's a PS4 controller, but they're not heavier than PS3 controllers.
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Either that PS3 controller has lead in the grips or this is staged. Seems no way the weight would keep it from tipping.
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Good news. video of the ipega 9023 with the Shield Tablet in action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2BPhnRWd6Q
Apparently works during gamestreaming. If you guys have any questions, be sure to ask him in the video

Just ordered the ipega 9023. Seemed like a cool thing to try. Now gotta sit back and wait for it to ship from China.

ugoff said:
I think that's a faux-tablet for displays. Also, that's a PS4 controller, but they're not heavier than PS3 controllers.
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Hello Guys.
UtorCase maker here.
Re UtorCase photos for small tablets
I did use a small support for the photos, so the unit does not tip over. Still, using UtorCase with a large phone or a small tablet is perfectly convenient. These small tablets are extremly lightweight around 300-400 grams, so you can hardly notice their weight while playing with a Utorcase. Here is a review from another XDA member http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/accessories/utorcase-controller-mount-ps3-ps4-360-t2807699 for the largish Xperia Ultra Z.
Will be putting up some in game / in hand pics soon, but meanwhile you can also see a video with a small tablet in action in the middle for the Xbox 360...
Finally, what controller could be better for gaming than the good old PS and Xbox controllers?

Nice to hear from you. I am going to be purchasing one of your cases(is it really a case? It's more like a bracket....) for my phone. Would you consider making one that will fit the Shield Controller to the Shield Tablet?
giorgio79 said:
Hello Guys.
UtorCase maker here.
Re UtorCase photos for small tablets
I did use a small support for the photos, so the unit does not tip over. Still, using UtorCase with a large phone or a small tablet is perfectly convenient. These small tablets are extremly lightweight around 300-400 grams, so you can hardly notice their weight while playing with a Utorcase. Here is a review from another XDA member http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/accessories/utorcase-controller-mount-ps3-ps4-360-t2807699 for the largish Xperia Ultra Z.
Will be putting up some in game / in hand pics soon, but meanwhile you can also see a video with a small tablet in action in the middle for the Xbox 360...
Finally, what controller could be better for gaming than the good old PS and Xbox controllers?
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I wanted to buy the ipega while i wait for the gamegrip STG one to eventually hit the market. Sadly, the ipega has been rumored to have horrible deadzones. Upon request, a brand new buyer tested his for the camera, and it looks to be a defect thats baked in as a "Feature".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7-Lp7i4iV0
Its unlikely based on ipega's past, that there will be a firmware update to correct the problem, nor is there any guarantee the micro usb port interfaces with the controllers microcontroller

ugoff said:
Nice to hear from you. I am going to be purchasing one of your cases(is it really a case? It's more like a bracket....) for my phone. Would you consider making one that will fit the Shield Controller to the Shield Tablet?
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Hi,
Thanks! Yeah the naming is tricky. Utor is a latin word meaning "to fetch / to enjoy", and I kind a liked it. Otherwise, yes UtorCase is more of a bracket.
I have some requests for the Shield Controller, so I am currently looking at it. I would like to see the Shield controller getting some traction, but given the Shield tablet is compatible with PS4 and X1 or X360 controllers I am unsure that will happen.

I can see your point about controller popularity. It also seems a little silly to attach the two, considering that's kinda what the Shield Portable is.
giorgio79 said:
Hi,
Thanks! Yeah the naming is tricky. Utor is a latin word meaning "to fetch / to enjoy", and I kind a liked it. Otherwise, yes UtorCase is more of a bracket.
I have some requests for the Shield Controller, so I am currently looking at it. I would like to see the Shield controller getting some traction, but given the Shield tablet is compatible with PS4 and X1 or X360 controllers I am unsure that will happen.
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IPEGA PG 9023 - deadzones for the analog sticks tests are my videos
- no problem for me ,I prefer D-Pad + touch mouse pointer on my tablet Toshiba Encore with Windows 8.1 32bit
if I can still here a small sample of gaming:
according to me better than NVidia shield? None streaming and long battery life
NFS: Most Wanted, NHL 09:
Soldier of Fortune 2:

here is a video from nielo, reviewing the Ipega9023
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCO7pK-uvts

I soldered on a ps3 Six axis joystick replacing the right stick. The dead zone dissapeared, but the fitmware was written to work around the shoddu sticks. The usability has improved somewhat but the acceleration is way off. Looks like there isn't an easy way to make the ipega useable for fps play.

Hey,
UtorCase now has a pretty sweet "over the controller" version. Check it out
https://www.shapeways.com/product/QTKWBW72G

I own both the ipega and the sixaxis. The analog dead zone issue for the ipega is very noticeable, driving games and FPS are a pain.. Things like 3rd person shooters are more playable but is very difficult to aim precicely.. Dpad is decent but unusable with beat em ups. Also i can't play any GRID game with ipega connected, maybe is a bluetooth-wifi issue. The sixaxis works great, to connect via cable and without root I use sixaxis enabler, the only problem I found is some dpad issue on grid games, it seems to work in menu but not in games (like switching weapons)

jnnar said:
I own both the ipega and the sixaxis. The analog dead zone issue for the ipega is very noticeable, driving games and FPS are a pain.. Things like 3rd person shooters are more playable but is very difficult to aim precicely.. Dpad is decent but unusable with beat em ups. Also i can't play any GRID game with ipega connected, maybe is a bluetooth-wifi issue. The sixaxis works great, to connect via cable and without root I use sixaxis enabler, the only problem I found is some dpad issue on grid games, it seems to work in menu but not in games (like switching weapons)
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Odd I've been playing grid since day one with my ipega.... Picked it right up and ran (played dead island) my router fails the big one so I didn't get far. But it did work.....

Pariahnoble said:
Odd I've been playing grid since day one with my ipega.... Picked it right up and ran (played dead island) my router fails the big one so I didn't get far. But it did work.....
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I can run the GRID app with the ipega on, and start every game, but is totally unplayable (lag-stuttering-freeze-force close of the app). I started to blame the ipega the first time i tried the ps3 controller. Also i have a FTTH 100mbps connection so it should works very good (and it does without the ipega)

jnnar said:
I can run the GRID app with the ipega on, and start every game, but is totally unplayable (lag-stuttering-freeze-force close of the app). I started to blame the ipega the first time i tried the ps3 controller. Also i have a FTTH 100mbps connection so it should works very good (and it does without the ipega)
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Is your router using the 2.4ghz band? Maybe the iPega bluetooth signal is interfering with the shield signal - try using the 5ghz if available. I'll try to run some tests myself, as soon as I get back my GTX970 from the RMA.

Ordered mine.... what now?

Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.

chieco said:
Hello fellow Humans,
I ordered my shield TV this weekend directly from nvidia and should get it this week! :victory:
I was wondering if there is something I should do like avoiding updates that block rooting or something like that. I know that on Amazon's Fire TV and sticks rooting is not possible due to updates.... is there maybe anything else like Hardware related that I should keep an eye on? When it comes to the Shield TV I'm a total noob. I would simply like to know what I definitely should and shouldn't do.
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Standard or Pro model?

Sub-Negro said:
Standard or Pro model?
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I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?

chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I think the free remote is being offered everywhere. Yes the 16 gig is probably fine if you're not a heavy gamer. I don't have access to the 500GB hard drive which makes it somewhat useless and it also might be one of the recall unites. The headset seems to work fine I would love to try it with a microphone if they had any multiplayer android games.

chieco said:
I got the 16gb Ver. because I own a NAS for all my media files. so I thought I won't need a 500gb drive. Apps I believe I won't install many of them. And besides doesn't it have a micro sd card slot + 2 USB ports... they have a promotion going on right now (at least in Germany) where i got the remote for free. So Shield TV and the remote for 199€ which is still expensive but that seems to be the price for the best Hardware u can get. Also big part on me deciding to get the Shield TV was the headphone jack on the remote and controller for private listening. Do you think I made a mistake by choosing the Standard Ver.? Also what do you think about the headphone jack does it work perfect or are there any issues?
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I have the 16 GB also and have have a NAS like you, with 11 TB in it The shield does have a MicroSD and and two USB ports so you can add TONS of external storage, also Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD. I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD and a 500 GB HDD connected to mine, I have a bunch of ROMs on the external HDD for RetroArch. Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it, not because it sucks at gaming, mostly because I don't find a lot of the indie games that interesting and I find the Steam and GeForce experience apps useless for me since my PC is literally right next to my TV, so an HDMI connection to my TV from my PC is far better than going throught the Shield. Nvidia GameStream is pretty cool though and as cheap as Netflix, but once again there aren't a lot of interesting titles to me. I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it, I took the plunge and rooted my first one (The v1.4 update bricked it) and then was like "now what?" there aren't really any custom kernels for it (that I know of, haven't really been active in this section in a while) and it lacks a lot of the normal root apps that one would find in the play store. If you want to use "normal" Android then that's a different story, I put normal Android on mine....and hated it. I'm perfectly happy with it using the stock Android TV build, which is extremely odd because I usually immediately root and flash a custom ROM to any Android device I get. Also getting into the bootloader/recovery menu is a MAJOR pain in the a$$ since there aren't any physical buttons on it, just the single capacitive button on top and you have to do a morse code-like tapping of that button to get into the recovery from a cold boot. Most annoying thing ever.
The only gripe I have with the Shield is that there isn't an on/off switch on the controller so I have to charge mine like every other day or so because it constantly stays on when I'm not using it. It seems to have a mind of it's own because sometimes it will stay on for an hour when untouched, other times it will turn off after 10 minutes of not being used.
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Marshmallow (whenever Nvidia finally releases it) will suppport external storage as native storage, you can already store stuff on the MicroSD but not on the HDD
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yeah saw that advertised in the official nvidia announcement video on youtube.
I currently have a 64 GB MicroSD
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was also planing to put my good old 64gb microsd card from my note 3 days in there which currently isn't used.
Even though the Shield is touted as a gaming machine, I rarely play games on it
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I also don't plan on gaming on it very much. I heard someone in a unboxing video mentioning that there is a Free 3 Months trail for their game streaming service maybe I use that trail but after looking up the titles online doesn't seem that much interesting.
Maybe some psx, psp, gamecube/wii emulation.
I mostly just use it for Netflix and Kodi.
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Yes Kodi was the reason why I got the Shield. I wanted the best possible experience for it.
IMO root doesn't really add much to it
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My main question regarding was that I was wondering if there is a certain FW or Build or something that would block all rooting. Right now I can't think of a reason for rooting the Shield but who knows maybe some App in the future needs root access.
Would I be out of luck if I would update my Shield to the most up to date FW? I would like to know. Or does it not matter on which FW I am and still root my Shield even with future updates?

I doubt anything would block root on it, Nvidia and Google seem to be pretty open about hacking it, they seem to treat it like a Nexus device (they provide system images for it and the bootloader is easily unlockable via the standard method) so I wouldn't really be worried about losing root in the future. We'll probably be seeing some new awesome games for it in the near future since Vulkan was officially released a few days ago (it's a low-overhead, bare metal, cross-platform GPU API) and Nvidia has already implemented it, along with Google and Valve (Steam).

I just ordered one as well. I'm currently using a Nexus Player, and it's not too bad, I just can't help knowing I'll have better results with everything with 3 gb vs 1 gb of ram. Having said that, I've used all of them at this point, and unlocking/rooting this will be closer to unlocking a Google device than the amazon fire. Unlocking that was one ridiculous task. The upside to rooting would be the ability to side load some apps and others like ad away, which could help out with folder apps (for example, EXFile explorer) and Youtube.