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Htc 10 Upgrading to Pixel? Anyone

Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?

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Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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Nope. Downgrade IMHO. Price point sucks.
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dottat said:
Nope. Downgrade IMHO. Price point sucks.
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I have to agree with this. I'm still using my M8 and held out to see what Nexus/Pixel brought, but for the price I'm going to get a used HTC 10 instead. I have always liked HTC since the M7 and nothing on the pixel seemed to pull me away. And then there's the price.
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Not an upgrade IMO. I'm sticking with the 10.
No SD card, also no wireless charging, ugly back, fingerprint on the back (forcing a hole in the case), maybe better camera, but not much.
No good reason to switch.
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Thanks for the opinions - that's basically how I feel

Ditto with the statements above. The only thing I'd love over the HTC 10 is the slightly smaller size of the Pixel and built in 128gb of storage (Still having SD card issues on my 10).
Considering I took advantage of the $100 promo right when the device came out in addition to a promo that gave me $300 for my old Turbo I only ended up paying $250 for the 10. Can't even get close to that for the Pixel.
Once Google puts their own custom SoCs aboard the Pixels....they'll have all my money.

Agree with everyone else observing that a 10 to a Pixel is a downgrade. I have a 200gb sdcard in my 10; it's easily rooted via Sunshine, running all my preferred mods via Magisk and Xposed and I have no desire to tinker with perfection for a bigger handset with smaller specs.

bturkel said:
Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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I am also Verizon HTC 10 user and yes, I am very happy with my phone.
But in future, if I have to buy a new phone even then I am not going buy Google Pixel XL. The only thing I like in Google Pixel XL is its camera quality. I don't know about other countries but in India Google Pixel XL is very expensive. For me, buying Google Pixel XL is definitely not a good move

I got one yesterday at the local Verizon store. It seems like a pretty nice phone. I like the build quality. The camera auto-focus seems hit-or-miss - that's a huge disappointment to me. Overall I prefer (and am still using) the HTC 10 as my main phone.
FWIW, I would never buy a phone as expensive as the Pixel with my own money. I got the smaller screen with the smaller memory capacity and it was still over $700 US. Lucky for me the company I work for paid for it.
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I checked out and had a play with both Pixel and Pixel xl a few days ago at JB Hifi. Although I liked the Google assist and great camera, the price couldn't be justified, especially here in Australia $1419 [USD $1080] for the 128gb XL version. I love my HTC 10, a great smartphone, and will stay with this for a while. Maybe when the market adjusts by Christmas or after New Years, the price will come down hundreds of dollars, as Pixel will be old news by then, until they launch their new version. As PocketNow stated, Pixel is quite boring from an aesthetic point of view.
Ps. Telstra carrier has exclusivity with Pixel and Pixel XL, and I can't stand their lying customer service so I'll never use their service again personally. JB Hifi sells them, but no deals atm.
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Nope...i get why Google would want to come out with something like the Pixel. It basically follows the Apple's strategy with the iPhone...which, whether you hate iPhones or not, is a business model that equals high profits. Its just that if they had taken this approach a long time ago they would actually have something. These days though, the Android market is too saturated with quality phones @ low prices for the Pixel to gain any traction

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Nope...i get why Google would want to come out with something like the Pixel. It basically follows the Apple's strategy with the iPhone...which, whether you hate iPhones or not, is a business model that equals high profits. Its just that if they had taken this approach a long time ago they would actually have something. These days though, the Android market is too saturated with quality phones @ low prices for the Pixel to gain any traction
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I agree, and I looked at a display model pixel xl at a verizon corporate store and honestly holding it, it feels cheaply made in my hand compared to my unlocked Htc 10. My Htc 10 feels more rigid and solid, like it is made of aluminum and the pixel xl in my hand feels like its plastic, I mean like there is basically nothing to it. To me you go too small and light weight and it can make it feel cheap and weak.
Anyone feel that way holding a pixel xl compared to your Htc 10 ?

M9guy said:
I agree, and I looked at a display model pixel xl at a verizon corporate store and honestly holding it, it feels cheaply made in my hand compared to my unlocked Htc 10. My Htc 10 feels more rigid and solid, like it is made of aluminum and the pixel xl in my hand feels like its plastic, I mean like there is basically nothing to it. To me you go too small and light weight and it can make it feel cheap and weak.
Anyone feel that way holding a pixel xl compared to your Htc 10 ?
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I held both and don't necessarily agree. The 10 is definitely heavier, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it's more "solidly built." I don't like rear fingerprint scanners (have it on the One Max). The Pixel is definitely more slim, sorta like the A9. That could appeal to some.

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I held both and don't necessarily agree. The 10 is definitely heavier, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it's more "solidly built." I don't like rear fingerprint scanners (have it on the One Max). The Pixel is definitely more slim, sorta like the A9. That could appeal to some.
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To me the Htc 10 feels stronger. The pixel xl felt really light compared to it and it just felt weaker. If they do a bend test on a pixel xl as they did the Htc 10 I bet its no where near as rigid as the 10. I went a head and bought one any way, but it will definitely go in to a nice sturdy case but I definitely would never use one without a case. I think the less weight of the pixel xl compared to the Htc 10 is they either made the aluminum case thinner or the used less metal inside, and the pixel xl is even a bigger phone, so I definitely would recommend a strong sturdy case to everyone using a pixel xl. But I guess to the masses lighter is better. I just also felt the pixel xl in my hand really seemed so light like it might not want to stay in your hand as well but maybe that is just me being use to the beefier Htc 10.

I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.

I pulled the trigger on a verizon pixel xl. It went against my better judgment, because of no sd card slot, no dual speakers, the fingerprint scanner on the back hate that put it on the front like the Htc 10, then there is the fact that its not as rigid as the 10. I got it because of the bigger screen and the quicker updates.
I purchased from Best buy and I got a $200 best buy gift card. Actually it came the following day after I ordered on their web site, via email. I also got a free chromecast.
If Htc made a bigger screen 10 plus and a dev edition or google play edition that got quick updates then I would have bought it but since Htc's m7 max fiasco they wont make another phablet for here. I have no problem with Htc sense and I like Htc products as they are the best built phones. Hopefully next spring the Htc 11 has a plus model with a 5.7 or 5.9 screen and get the dev or google play fast updates like lets say with in 2 weeks of google releasing system updates, just something way better than 90 days. If they release the dev or gp models they can have updates out with in 2 weeks as its pure stock android. I just want quick updates.
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pjd2011 said:
I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
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You can purchase from Best buy like I did and I got a $200 best buy gift card. Actually it came the following day after I ordered on their web site, via email. I also got a free chromecast.

pjd2011 said:
I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
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This is exactly what made my decision. I was on the M8 and waited until after the Pixel was announced to make my choice. I ended up buying a used HTC 10 for $375 (ironically) and I love it! Most of the posts here agreed that the Pixel wasn't enough of an upgrade over the 10 to justify the price and so I figured why not.
Now I have not even seen a Pixel in person yet so I really can't compare, but I know I'm happy with my M8 to 10 transition.
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Don't really see the point in spending hundreds on another 2016 flagship when you already have a 2016 flagship. You'll have more of a difference saving that money and getting a 2017 flagship.
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bturkel said:
Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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I was considering it, but then CM 13 came out, so I could satisfy my desire for a stock android feel. CM 13 is actually surprisingly stable for what I need it for, and Android N-ify is fully functional, so I had no problem with not have Nougat either.

Well- I grabbed a 32gb Silver for $480 from a guy here - I am testing it this weekend - already rooted and Hotspot working - I will see how I like it - thought it was a good deal so WHY NOT. Still Love my HTC but I run with this for a bit and see how it compares

Anyone switching from the Galaxy S7 to OnePlus 5?

I'm considering upgrading to the OnePlus 5 (or 3T) from the Galaxy S7, but is it worth it after only one year? I guess I could sell my Galaxy S7 to partially make up for the OnePlus 5/3T expenses, but still unsure if they are that much better of phones.

I'm switching from s6 to OP5, why? Because want bigger (not curved) screen and better battery. S6 do better photos indoor.

I switched over from my S7 Edge. Depends on what you want out of your phone. I like stock Android, overall speed of the phone, dual camera, and the customizability. I also prefer the metal unibody.

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I switched over from my S7 Edge. Depends on what you want out of your phone. I like stock Android, overall speed of the phone, dual camera, and the customizability. I also prefer the metal unibody.
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Yeah I definitely want stock Android and better overall speed, battery life, and customization. But I'm wondering if it's too early to upgrade after only a year, and whether the S7 isn't that much far off from the OnePlus 5.

I am using S7 but decided to get OP5, but same time I will keep S7 so I can spent more time comparing with them , but it's too early to say if I will sell S7 or not

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Yeah I definitely want stock Android and better overall speed, battery life, and customization. But I'm wondering if it's too early to upgrade after only a year, and whether the S7 isn't that much far off from the OnePlus 5.
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If you're satisfied with the S7 then keep it. I like to live on the bleeding edge of phone tech, that's honestly one of the main reasons I upgraded.

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If you're satisfied with the S7 then keep it. I like to live on the bleeding edge of phone tech, that's honestly one of the main reasons I upgraded.
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I've noticed that it's begun to slow down (but not to the extent that I need to get rid of it), but my primary reason for considering the upgrade is to be able to not only use a brand new phone, but to flash ROMs on it and likely keep it for 2 years because of that.

I switched from my S7 today

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I've noticed that it's begun to slow down (but not to the extent that I need to get rid of it), but my primary reason for considering the upgrade is to be able to not only use a brand new phone, but to flash ROMs on it and likely keep it for 2 years because of that.
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I would go for the OP5 then, but you could also get a mint 3T on swappa for cheap right now. The development for that device is much more abundant than the 5 at this point.

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I would go for the OP5 then, but you could also get a mint 3T on swappa for cheap right now. The development for that device is much more abundant than the 5 at this poepint.
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Sounds good. So would you prefer the OnePlus 5 right now, or wait a few months for a possible OnePlus 5T or next summer for the OnePlus 6?

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Sounds good. So would you prefer the OnePlus 5 right now, or wait a few months for a possible OnePlus 5T or next summer for the OnePlus 6?
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I don't see them coming out with a 5T, and if they did it would be marginal. The only difference I think would be a 2k screen and OIS. Which won't really impact day to day use. I'd grab the 5.

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I don't see them coming out with a 5T, and if they did it would be marginal. The only difference I think would be a 2k screen and OIS. Which won't really impact day to day use. I'd grab the 5.
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Makes sense. Yeah hopefully I can sell my S7 for at least $250 to help pay for the OP5. Thanks for your help!

MARIO SHARK said:
Makes sense. Yeah hopefully I can sell my S7 for at least $250 to help pay for the OP5. Thanks for your help!
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No problem. You should definitely be able to get $250 if it's in good shape. Good luck!

MARIO SHARK said:
I'm considering upgrading to the OnePlus 5 (or 3T) from the Galaxy S7, but is it worth it after only one year? I guess I could sell my Galaxy S7 to partially make up for the OnePlus 5/3T expenses, but still unsure if they are that much better of phones.
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I sold my OnePlus 3T for $430 and now have the OnePlus 5 in my hands. Note that there's a promotion on the S8/S8+ right now, so you can pick one of those guys up for $~450. So if you like the S-Line, I'd weigh my options carefully.
No doubt the 3T/5 is much faster and smooth than the S7/S8 with a superior stock experience in terms of speed. If you want to try out Custom ROM's, then OP5 is the place to go for sure.

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I sold my OnePlus 3T for $430 and now have the OnePlus 5 in my hands. Note that there's a promotion on the S8/S8+ right now, so you can pick one of those guys up for $~450. So if you like the S-Line, I'd weigh my options carefully.
No doubt the 3T/5 is much faster and smooth than the S7/S8 with a superior stock experience in terms of speed. If you want to try out Custom ROM's, then OP5 is the place to go for sure.
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I've actually been an HTC fanboy since 2010 (until last year), but was so close to picking a phone with stock Android that year, and I wish I did. Don't get me wrong, the S7 has been very solid for me, but I'm not a huge fan of Touchwiz and I really miss the ability to flash ROMs which improves the longevity of phones. I'm just trying to figure out if an upgrade after only a year is worth it even if I can sell my S7 for a lot of money to nearly make up for the OP5.

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I've actually been an HTC fanboy since 2010 (until last year), but was so close to picking a phone with stock Android that year, and I wish I did. Don't get me wrong, the S7 has been very solid for me, but I'm not a huge fan of Touchwiz and I really miss the ability to flash ROMs which improves the longevity of phones. I'm just trying to figure out if an upgrade after only a year is worth it even if I can sell my S7 for a lot of money to nearly make up for the OP5.
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The OP5 will retain resale value. I sold my 3 (Originally $399) for $375 when I upgraded to the OP3T and sold the OP3T (Originally $479) for $430. I would sell the S7 before it loses more value, and you can always sell your OP5 in the future if needed without worrying about price depreciation.

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The OP5 will retain resale value. I sold my 3 (Originally $399) for $375 when I upgraded to the OP3T and sold the OP3T (Originally $479) for $430. I would sell the S7 before it loses more value, and you can always sell your OP5 in the future if needed without worrying about price depreciation.
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That's a good point. Just out of curiosity, my S7 is on T-Mobile. I know that I could take my SIM card out of it and stick it inside the OP5 (if I do purchase it). Does my phone number also get transferred and I maintain the same carrier plan? Sorry, this may be my first time switching to an unlocked phone.
EDIT: Asking because I'm wondering if I would have to pay more for talk/messaging/data after a year.

I switched from S7 (not EDGE) but still didn't received OP5. After reviews on the internet I'm considering to buy HTC U11 anyway after few weeks.

MARIO SHARK said:
That's a good point. Just out of curiosity, my S7 is on T-Mobile. I know that I could take my SIM card out of it and stick it inside the OP5 (if I do purchase it). Does my phone number also get transferred and I maintain the same carrier plan? Sorry, this may be my first time switching to an unlocked phone.
EDIT: Asking because I'm wondering if I would have to pay more for talk/messaging/data after a year.
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I do have a T-mobile SIM as well. Yeah you can just pop it into any device you want. Service is tied to the SIM.

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I do have a T-mobile SIM as well. Yeah you can just pop it into any device you want. Service is tied to the SIM.
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Oh ok, that's what I thought. But would my carrier plan stay intact, or end after the 2 year period which started in June 2016?

thoughts on how this phone compares to new pixel?

Thoughts on how this phone will compare to new pixel 2 xl? Which are you leaning towards?

Plan on getting it also. Like the Ph1 so far though.
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Main problem is this phone isn't rootable.
I really want to use ARISE, titanium, etc

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Main problem is this phone isn't rootable.
I really want to use ARISE, titanium, etc
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Not yet, but I'm sure once they release the factory images it will be rooted shortly thereafter.

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Not yet, but I'm sure once they release the factory images it will be rooted shortly thereafter.
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I've been patiently waiting!

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I've been patiently waiting!
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That's all we can do at this point. Have a beer and chill.

Pixel 2 is better in every way especially with their proven customer service
I would even rate google at par with Apple or even higher in terms of service
With all the software / hardware problems with essential phone and their customer service
I dont see myself buying their phone anymore especially at $700

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Pixel 2 is better in every way especially with their proven customer service
I would even rate google at par with Apple or even higher in terms of service
With all the software / hardware problems with essential phone and their customer service
I dont see myself buying their phone anymore especially at $700
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Pretty sure the specs are exactly the same?

johnmoon said:
Pixel 2 is better in every way especially with their proven customer service
I would even rate google at par with Apple or even higher in terms of service
With all the software / hardware problems with essential phone and their customer service
I dont see myself buying their phone anymore especially at $700
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This is true, the pixel will have an overall more polished software experience, better camera and CS....however I can't bring myself to buy one because this PH-1's design and feeling in hand outweighs everything for me. I told myself back in the iPhone 4 and 5 days that if someone ever stuffed an Android operating system with the iphone's candy bar design language, I would buy it instantly. Essential did that. And I became happy.
Tho if the pixel 2 went small bezels, I would have jumped on that
Edit: I realized op said XL lol yeah form factor alone kicks the XL out of my list.

I'm definitely waiting to see the finished product of the XL 2 before choosing. It's between the essential and the xl 2 though. The essential is just secksay, but I'm worried about it having been buggy, as well as how long big Android updates (like Oreo) will take. I guess we'll see next week!

I'm either crazy or I swear the leaks for the PXL essentially made it out to be LG V30 more or less (no DAC probably)... and why wouldn't you compare the Essential phone to the Pixel 2 instead XL since they're different form factors. Personally, I love the Essential form factor and plan on keeping it, making it my main phone (if and when I get a fully working one anyways lol).

Well if you're a Sprint customer I think the Essential is a good option. We don't have many phones that we can get from our carrier that are development friendly. In fact, the only 2017 flagship you can get from Sprint at the moment that has an unlockable bootloader is the HTC U11. Plus Sprint being CDMA you can't bring in devices like the OnePlus or other Chinese phones or the international unlock able versions of phones. So pretty much we're left with the google phones which ARE compatible with Sprint, but pretty pricey. Buying from your carrier there are usually perks like 50% off or loyalty credits, interest-free financing, etc. Now that we have the Essential phone purchasable through Sprint we have a bootloader unlockable STOCK android nexus-like device with high-end specs.
Overall though I'm sure the Pixel 2 will be a better phone than the Essential, but the essential is close enough IMO and the fact that it will likely be cheaper than a 128gb Pixel, especially when you factor in carrier incentives makes me pick it over the google phone.

Nexus 6P in 2017?

So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.

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So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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If you can get a NEW model 64GB for a great price, then yeah. In the US, Walmart is selling a new 32GB model for $365. The phone is still fast as hell, runs 8.0 and gets monthly security updates. Ongoing community support is guaranteed for a LONG time. :good:

I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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Yea I'm still weary of the bootloop. The phone I found was an official refurb from Google, but still, if it's unreliable even afterwards, I'd rather spend the extra money now so I don't have to spend even more later.
BTW I would prefer to buy one that works on all four networks. Currently on Sprint (hot garbage) but I'm looking to move to T-Mobile after I graduate.

My Pixel XL died and I picked up the Nexus 6P.
It's 95% as fast as the Pixel XL.
Apps do open faster on the Pixel, but the difference is negligible.
I never realized I'd be this happy with the 6P.
My only issue is premature battery failure.
I'd budget $25 to get a replacement battery if you're comfortable doing it yourself.
If not, then budget a lot more, or get a better phone.

how long have you had it?

Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.

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Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.
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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.

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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.
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Accubattery

I still think it's very worthy phone even in 2017. It's my all time favorite Android phone. I've owned it twice now. I as of about 4 days ago just bought another Nexus 6p from an individual who had bought it from Google but never even opened it up. It had just been sitting in the box unopened at his house for the past two years. Although I really wanted the silver, the one he had was 64g and in frost white. When he told me what he'd sell it to me for I went into shock. I bought a brand new 64g Nexus 6p for $150!!! Sealed in box never even turned on. This phone is butter smooth. The screen is amazing. It's great for media. Runs the very latest software from Google. I like it tens times better than the Pixel. The Pixel is absolutely ugly and it's not even a true XL at 5.5 inches where the 6p is 5.7 which I would consider that to be an XL. The phone design thanks to Huawei is stunning. So yeah if you can find one in the original box at the right price that was purchased from Google in case you do need a replacement then I'd say definitely yes to getting one. Don't let the boot loop scare you. Although it happens it's not to the majority of the phones. You only hear of the bad apples and not the good ones. Well mine is perfect although it was brand new it's still two yesrs old just never opened up and my battery is fine. Just do your research and ask questions and get you one. You won't regret it. This phone is by far the best and most smooth Android phone I've ever used. It's definitely at the right price very worth buying even in 2017. I believe it will get updates until late 2018 so you're good there too. Like I said research it and definitely fine one that comes in the original box with the contents. It'll help your resell value down the road.

akaTRAP said:
So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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Don't do it... Worst build quality ever, it's essentially made out of tin foil

Until the Google Pixel dual partition phones get Xposed working, I'm sticking with the 6P.
Even TWRP doesn't backup/restore reliably for Pixel dual partition setup yet.
My 6P has RR and Xposed for Nougat working just right and I'm not letting that go.

I have my 6p for over a year now and to be honest I am not happy In 2017 you would end up much better with OnePlus 5 that has similar performance to iPhone 8 and much better than Samsung Galaxy 8. Nexus 6p is way behind them now
The "frame" (thin plastic around the screen) goes off quickly and it looks quite bad and the body is made of soft metal so you would have a lot of tiny holes and few scratches after few months (and drops). Battery is good though, after a year still holds about 95% (due to AccuBattery app) and performance itself is neither bad or good.

No it's not a good buy. You want a phone to last long look elsewhere. You might get lucky and get a good model or you might get one that has one of the many issues that plagues these phones. Go for a one plus 3T

I absolutely love mine. expect to replace the battery at some point, but other than that, I think it's still a relevant phone in 2017. buy it if you see it cheap.

So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?

kingdazy said:
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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kingdazy said:
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally

seabro01 said:
Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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crixley said:
No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally
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Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.

kingdazy said:
Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.
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Glad to help out. I try not to fanboy out on any phone I own, and be honest about the good and the bad. XDA can be the worst place to ask for advice about buying phones honestly. People will say anything is good.
I keep mine around to play around with and test android updates. It hasn't been my main phone in a while though.

DISCUSSION how is the price going down on swappa?

I was trying to sell one pixel 2 xl on swappa and the prices are going crazy low. How are all these people selling new 128 GB for just $700ish range ? The phone isn't really that old yet.

Verizon's running a $300 off on it.

I'm noticing the same thing. I considered selling my 2 XL and picking up a OnePlus 5T. When I took a look at pricing on SWAPPA I was very surprised to see the current prices people are selling the phone for. Previously, the Nexus/Pixel line-up held their value much better than what I'm seeing with the current 2 XL. It's sad but I think it can be chalked up to all the bad publicity this phone keeps receiving. Talk of these issues is seemingly more widespread than I thought.
For instance, on Christmas day a family member was checking out my phone and even though he is not a tech guy by any means, even he brought up the screen burn-in issues as well as the speaker buzzing noise issues. It threw me off, to be honest. Especially considering that this is a guy who never researches phones and has stuck with the Galaxy phone line-up simply because I recommended it to him like 3 years ago.
There is a reason why both Google and the carriers have already dropped the price. It sucks and it's directly affecting resale value.
On the plus side, I've experienced no issues with my device and it's the best phone I've ever owned. So this is just a good nudge for me to hold onto it and enjoy it longer, rather than making a jump to something else and inevitably regretting it.

Add to this, the starting prices were up there with the iPhone X and Samsung Note 8! Previously Nexus phones were a good bit cheaper than the highest premium phones...this is why they were able to hold value longer.

True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing

matteosaeed said:
True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.

bobby janow said:
Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.

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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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As for last year you really can't compare, unfortunately. Google didn't give 5 cents off the Pixel or the XL even on black Friday. Verizon had one day, and that was BF, that they gave a tremendous deal of $10 / month and $15 for the XL for 24 months. That was it! Eventually they had a lame trade in deal but nothing from Google. This year is way different. There is really no reason to be spending more than 4 or 5 hundred for any of the devices with trade in at Google and VZW. I mean I believe that VZW even has a $300 off with no trade in! But then you're locked into them for 2 years and no bl unlock. So I believe that the price will not drop past the 6 or 7 number for some time. But I've been wrong once or twice..

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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!

oneandroidnut said:
Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.

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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.

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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
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Oh man the LG phone software dept is need of a revamp. It has been awful! I had a G4, G5, & G6 and literally could only use for a few days it was so bad!
I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
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Yeah you should try the s8 or note 8. They are extremely fluid compared to the pixel not quite as fluid but very very close. Also the extra ram in note is helpful especially with the kitchen sink approach
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oneandroidnut said:
I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.

sn0warmy said:
I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!

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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.

sn0warmy said:
Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Why are you against the note? Lol
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oneandroidnut said:
Why are you against the note? Lol
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Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.

sn0warmy said:
Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
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I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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oneandroidnut said:
I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.

sn0warmy said:
If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
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I mean I don't travel on the road but I love almost everything about phone except just slightly too tall and fingerprint sensor placement. I use pen to keep screen clean if hands are dirty etc
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