Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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Nope. Downgrade IMHO. Price point sucks.
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dottat said:
Nope. Downgrade IMHO. Price point sucks.
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I have to agree with this. I'm still using my M8 and held out to see what Nexus/Pixel brought, but for the price I'm going to get a used HTC 10 instead. I have always liked HTC since the M7 and nothing on the pixel seemed to pull me away. And then there's the price.
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Not an upgrade IMO. I'm sticking with the 10.
No SD card, also no wireless charging, ugly back, fingerprint on the back (forcing a hole in the case), maybe better camera, but not much.
No good reason to switch.
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Thanks for the opinions - that's basically how I feel
Ditto with the statements above. The only thing I'd love over the HTC 10 is the slightly smaller size of the Pixel and built in 128gb of storage (Still having SD card issues on my 10).
Considering I took advantage of the $100 promo right when the device came out in addition to a promo that gave me $300 for my old Turbo I only ended up paying $250 for the 10. Can't even get close to that for the Pixel.
Once Google puts their own custom SoCs aboard the Pixels....they'll have all my money.
Agree with everyone else observing that a 10 to a Pixel is a downgrade. I have a 200gb sdcard in my 10; it's easily rooted via Sunshine, running all my preferred mods via Magisk and Xposed and I have no desire to tinker with perfection for a bigger handset with smaller specs.
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Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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I am also Verizon HTC 10 user and yes, I am very happy with my phone.
But in future, if I have to buy a new phone even then I am not going buy Google Pixel XL. The only thing I like in Google Pixel XL is its camera quality. I don't know about other countries but in India Google Pixel XL is very expensive. For me, buying Google Pixel XL is definitely not a good move
I got one yesterday at the local Verizon store. It seems like a pretty nice phone. I like the build quality. The camera auto-focus seems hit-or-miss - that's a huge disappointment to me. Overall I prefer (and am still using) the HTC 10 as my main phone.
FWIW, I would never buy a phone as expensive as the Pixel with my own money. I got the smaller screen with the smaller memory capacity and it was still over $700 US. Lucky for me the company I work for paid for it.
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I checked out and had a play with both Pixel and Pixel xl a few days ago at JB Hifi. Although I liked the Google assist and great camera, the price couldn't be justified, especially here in Australia $1419 [USD $1080] for the 128gb XL version. I love my HTC 10, a great smartphone, and will stay with this for a while. Maybe when the market adjusts by Christmas or after New Years, the price will come down hundreds of dollars, as Pixel will be old news by then, until they launch their new version. As PocketNow stated, Pixel is quite boring from an aesthetic point of view.
Ps. Telstra carrier has exclusivity with Pixel and Pixel XL, and I can't stand their lying customer service so I'll never use their service again personally. JB Hifi sells them, but no deals atm.
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Nope...i get why Google would want to come out with something like the Pixel. It basically follows the Apple's strategy with the iPhone...which, whether you hate iPhones or not, is a business model that equals high profits. Its just that if they had taken this approach a long time ago they would actually have something. These days though, the Android market is too saturated with quality phones @ low prices for the Pixel to gain any traction
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Nope...i get why Google would want to come out with something like the Pixel. It basically follows the Apple's strategy with the iPhone...which, whether you hate iPhones or not, is a business model that equals high profits. Its just that if they had taken this approach a long time ago they would actually have something. These days though, the Android market is too saturated with quality phones @ low prices for the Pixel to gain any traction
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I agree, and I looked at a display model pixel xl at a verizon corporate store and honestly holding it, it feels cheaply made in my hand compared to my unlocked Htc 10. My Htc 10 feels more rigid and solid, like it is made of aluminum and the pixel xl in my hand feels like its plastic, I mean like there is basically nothing to it. To me you go too small and light weight and it can make it feel cheap and weak.
Anyone feel that way holding a pixel xl compared to your Htc 10 ?
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I agree, and I looked at a display model pixel xl at a verizon corporate store and honestly holding it, it feels cheaply made in my hand compared to my unlocked Htc 10. My Htc 10 feels more rigid and solid, like it is made of aluminum and the pixel xl in my hand feels like its plastic, I mean like there is basically nothing to it. To me you go too small and light weight and it can make it feel cheap and weak.
Anyone feel that way holding a pixel xl compared to your Htc 10 ?
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I held both and don't necessarily agree. The 10 is definitely heavier, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it's more "solidly built." I don't like rear fingerprint scanners (have it on the One Max). The Pixel is definitely more slim, sorta like the A9. That could appeal to some.
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I held both and don't necessarily agree. The 10 is definitely heavier, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it's more "solidly built." I don't like rear fingerprint scanners (have it on the One Max). The Pixel is definitely more slim, sorta like the A9. That could appeal to some.
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To me the Htc 10 feels stronger. The pixel xl felt really light compared to it and it just felt weaker. If they do a bend test on a pixel xl as they did the Htc 10 I bet its no where near as rigid as the 10. I went a head and bought one any way, but it will definitely go in to a nice sturdy case but I definitely would never use one without a case. I think the less weight of the pixel xl compared to the Htc 10 is they either made the aluminum case thinner or the used less metal inside, and the pixel xl is even a bigger phone, so I definitely would recommend a strong sturdy case to everyone using a pixel xl. But I guess to the masses lighter is better. I just also felt the pixel xl in my hand really seemed so light like it might not want to stay in your hand as well but maybe that is just me being use to the beefier Htc 10.
I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
I pulled the trigger on a verizon pixel xl. It went against my better judgment, because of no sd card slot, no dual speakers, the fingerprint scanner on the back hate that put it on the front like the Htc 10, then there is the fact that its not as rigid as the 10. I got it because of the bigger screen and the quicker updates.
I purchased from Best buy and I got a $200 best buy gift card. Actually it came the following day after I ordered on their web site, via email. I also got a free chromecast.
If Htc made a bigger screen 10 plus and a dev edition or google play edition that got quick updates then I would have bought it but since Htc's m7 max fiasco they wont make another phablet for here. I have no problem with Htc sense and I like Htc products as they are the best built phones. Hopefully next spring the Htc 11 has a plus model with a 5.7 or 5.9 screen and get the dev or google play fast updates like lets say with in 2 weeks of google releasing system updates, just something way better than 90 days. If they release the dev or gp models they can have updates out with in 2 weeks as its pure stock android. I just want quick updates.
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pjd2011 said:
I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
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You can purchase from Best buy like I did and I got a $200 best buy gift card. Actually it came the following day after I ordered on their web site, via email. I also got a free chromecast.
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I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
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This is exactly what made my decision. I was on the M8 and waited until after the Pixel was announced to make my choice. I ended up buying a used HTC 10 for $375 (ironically) and I love it! Most of the posts here agreed that the Pixel wasn't enough of an upgrade over the 10 to justify the price and so I figured why not.
Now I have not even seen a Pixel in person yet so I really can't compare, but I know I'm happy with my M8 to 10 transition.
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Don't really see the point in spending hundreds on another 2016 flagship when you already have a 2016 flagship. You'll have more of a difference saving that money and getting a 2017 flagship.
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bturkel said:
Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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I was considering it, but then CM 13 came out, so I could satisfy my desire for a stock android feel. CM 13 is actually surprisingly stable for what I need it for, and Android N-ify is fully functional, so I had no problem with not have Nougat either.
Well- I grabbed a 32gb Silver for $480 from a guy here - I am testing it this weekend - already rooted and Hotspot working - I will see how I like it - thought it was a good deal so WHY NOT. Still Love my HTC but I run with this for a bit and see how it compares
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The title is in all caps because I felt like yelling
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The title is in all caps because I felt like yelling
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Out of anger or excitement? For me it'd be out of anger Canadian dollar still sucks so the chances of this device getting into my hands are definitely not XL
I've been waiting for Pixel XL for soooo long, and I just hope pricing is not super high. I'm planning to get the 64 gig version...
Design seems to be a disappointment. Huge bezel and 5.5" screen? If the price is high I'm getting the frost 6P, because white XL looks disgusting. Almost like a cheap Chinese copy of iPhone 6, especially the front side. I feel like I've been waiting for nothing, could have gotten 6P months ago.
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Out of anger or excitement? For me it'd be out of anger Canadian dollar still sucks so the chances of this device getting into my hands are definitely not XL
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Out of me being me, I want one now so I can get to work
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I've been waiting for Pixel XL for soooo long, and I just hope pricing is not super high. I'm planning to get the 64 gig version...
Design seems to be a disappointment. Huge bezel and 5.5" screen? If the price is high I'm getting the frost 6P, because white XL looks disgusting. Almost like a cheap Chinese copy of iPhone 6, especially the front side. I feel like I've been waiting for nothing, could have gotten 6P months ago.
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I have had 6P since launch, I will be getting a Pixel XL regardless and maybe a normal Pixel depending on the hardware differences
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I've been waiting for Pixel XL for soooo long, and I just hope pricing is not super high. I'm planning to get the 64 gig version...
Design seems to be a disappointment. Huge bezel and 5.5" screen? If the price is high I'm getting the frost 6P, because white XL looks disgusting. Almost like a cheap Chinese copy of iPhone 6, especially the front side. I feel like I've been waiting for nothing, could have gotten 6P months ago.
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I remember the first 6P renders looking horrid, but it turned out to be nice and slick (but still not the biggest fan of the glass camera back). I'm sure once the official pictures come out, everyone will be drooling over it.
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Out of me being me, I want one now so I can get to work
I have had 6P since launch, I will be getting a Pixel XL regardless and maybe a normal Pixel depending on the hardware differences
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I wish I had that phone... I sold myö iPhone 6 Plus for Pixel XL and currently I'm using S6 Edge, although it's not my phone and I'm supposed to give it back to my friend once I get Pixel XL/6P. I will have to buy a phone eventually and I want Pixel XL so bad, but I find 6P awesome provided that Pixel XL render is not so good. But they are only renders, so I just have to wait patiently.
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I remember the first 6P renders looking horrid, but it turned out to be nice and slick (but still not the biggest fan of the glass camera back). I'm sure once the official pictures come out, everyone will be drooling over it.
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Exactly. We will wait and see, I'm also hyped up for Andromeda. Oct. 4 is going to be a big day, no matter how horrible/good Pixel is
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I wish I had that phone... I sold myö iPhone 6 Plus for Pixel XL and currently I'm using S6 Edge, although it's not my phone and I'm supposed to give it back to my friend once I get Pixel XL/6P. I will have to buy a phone eventually and I want Pixel XL so bad, but I find 6P awesome provided that Pixel XL render is not so good. But they are only renders, so I just have to wait patiently.
Exactly. We will wait and see, I'm also hyped up for Andromeda. Oct. 4 is going to be a big day, no matter how horrible/good Pixel is
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Andromeda is mostly targeted for 2 in 1 devices
Have a Note 7 which is as we all know best in class for camera, water resistance but despite being a PhoneAholic can't decide whether or not to go for Pixel XL..had every Nexus device and sometimes miss extra features that Samsung provide...but then HATE their slow firmware update schedule....decisions decisions !
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Have a Note 7 which is as we all know best in class for camera, water resistance but despite being a PhoneAholic can't decide whether or not to go for Pixel XL..had every Nexus device and sometimes miss extra features that Samsung provide...but then HATE their slow firmware update schedule....decisions decisions !
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They will always lack some features. But I think Google is giving up on stock firmware, so I'm guessing Pixel phones will be different in terms of features you mentioned compared to Nexus phones. Still those features won't be heart rate sensor or something.
By the way, if we buy devices on Canadian Google Store, do we also get 1 year hardware warranty like the US customers?
It is my understanding the Pixel XL is stock firmware, quick updates as we got with the Nexus Devices.
My theory one of the reason why Google rebranded Nexus to Pixel because recycling names was getting confusing.
Nexus 6, 6p, ... 6 (2016) or 6xl or something .... let us just call the next devices Pixel.
If it is like most years the Pixel XL will not release in Canada at the same time as the Americans get it but when it is released in Canada I will likely pick one up.
I'm hoping the XL is a badass phone and comes to Wind. My S6 is good but dev support and updates have me regretting buying it. If not I guess it's a 6p, op3 or htc 10 maybe.
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Out of anger or excitement? For me it'd be out of anger Canadian dollar still sucks so the chances of this device getting into my hands are definitely not XL
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Off topic, but your user name gave me a quick laugh. : D
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I remember the first 6P renders looking horrid, but it turned out to be nice and slick (but still not the biggest fan of the glass camera back). I'm sure once the official pictures come out, everyone will be drooling over it.
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It looks odd with the back half glass and half metal....like its patched up lol. At least the white one looks odd anyway.
Would have looked much better all of one material instead of half and half.
I still think it was a stupid idea to shrink the screen and lose the stereo speakers. Not a strong selling feature for me at any rate.
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mistaliu said:
I'm hoping the XL is a badass phone and comes to Wind. My S6 is good but dev support and updates have me regretting buying it. If not I guess it's a 6p, op3 or htc 10 maybe.
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I hope it comes to Fido too. Do we get hardware warranty if we buy it through a provider?
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I hope it comes to Fido too. Do we get hardware warranty if we buy it through a provider?
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Yes. Return it to you provider.
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Well 1179$ + taxes for the Canadian model Pixel XL 128gb. This is crazy.
pretty disappointed to see such a ridiculous price point on the XL. Over $1000 for 32GB's and no device protection. Not sure what Google is trying to do here but I'm definitely not buying it at that price. No phone is worth $1000.
Very expensive, the XL came to $1300 with tax for the 128GB model with no insurance.
Canadian prices (before taxes):
Pixel 32GB: 900$
Pixel 128GB: 1030$
Pixel XL 32GB: 1050$
Pixel XL 128GB: 1180$
alray said:
Canadian prices (before taxes):
Pixel 32GB: 900$
Pixel 128GB: 1030$
Pixel XL 32GB: 1050$
Pixel XL 128GB: 1180$
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Thats so funny...more than a note 7 and lacking so many features not the least of which would be sd card support and waterproofing. They even ditched some of the 7P features dont even offer 256gb of storage but charging that kind of money.
Google is smoking something, they are totally out their minds.
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Had very high hopes of buying this! Should wait and see if some sale/discount comes soon!
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At USD $649 for a 5" Google Pixel phone compared with nexus 5x price of USD $379
what are your thoughts on pricing, (POLL on top)
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Article by xda, talking about Pixel price.
http://http://www.xda-developers.com/renouncing-the-nexus-legacy-priced-the-pixel-into-a-battle-it-may-not-win/
How about an option "too high, but eff it, I bought one anyway"?
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How about an option "too high, but eff it, I bought one anyway"?
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maybe the last option ?
128 GB Flash and a 5 inch screen. This is what i'm looking for, a long time now.
Hopefully the Pixel phones also have an unlockable bootloader like all the Nexus phones have - otherwise it's a no-go.
See my thread:
Just bought a Nexus 5X 32 GB for 245 € instead of Pixel 759€
unrealmac said:
See my thread:
Just bought a Nexus 5X 32 GB for 245 € instead of Pixel 759€
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Thats a good price but these 2 phones are technicaly not compareble.
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Thats a good price but these 2 phones are technicaly not compareble.
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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I completely agree with you. I will not get one of these 2 devices either because of the price and its not a huge upgrade from the 6P imo.
The RAM is the main advantage to me.... (2GB for 64-bit android is an error, even the N5 2013 has less redraws. N5X should have had 3GB! )
On the other hand, the battery life (seems to have much better autonomy) and the AMOLED panel is another advantage.
But I bought the 5X at 300€ in Amazon (6 months after the release date). So I'll wait to see this Pixel at 500€ before buy it.
Much prefer LCD to AMOLED.
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Much prefer LCD to AMOLED.
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seems like technology is moving towards amoled, the last of big brands that used lcd is apple
The camera sensors are NOT the same. They're just the same in terms of megapixels, which most photographers know isn't everything. Pixel should win in that category as well.
I'm having a real tough time deciding on what to do.... Buy a Pixel for 750 with protection plan, (no way in hell I'm financing at 29 .9% APR, friggin criminals), or buy an HTC 10, which is comparable to the Pixel, plus it has an SDCard and it's 550 bucks right now.....
Way overpriced - just like Apple's iPhone 7. Very dissapointed.
The pricing on these is out of touch with reality. Maybe its a part of the same pricing model they did on the Nexus 6 where all the fanboys and people who just dont know better pay full price, then 2 months later, its selling for $349.
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I think these western phone manufacturers just prices them out of the market when chinese cheap and same spec phones are getting into the hands of masses. When people are getting poorer and poorer they just dont have money to purchase 750$ phones.
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At USD $649 for a 5" Google Pixel phone compared with nexus 5x price of USD $349
what are your thoughts on pricing, (POLL on top)
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Wow that definitely does look quite shocking for the new pixel though you are forgetting some of the new features of the Pixel!
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technically yes. And yep I was really looking forward for more than 2gb Ram and an AMOLED screen but this phone simply doesn't offer for me the justification to be 500€ more expensive than the Nexus 5X.
Come on: I think everyone was kind of waiting for the secret killer feature that wasn't announced. I personally bet that the glass/plastic back is touch enabled for swipe/scroll gestures but that did not happen. Daydreams seems still not 100% ready..
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The non-metal part of the back is there so that the antennas behind it will actually pick up RF. Doesn't make sense for a cell phone to not be able to get cell service!
Daydream is a gimmick and will ALWAYS be a gimmick.
The way forward for hardware, is always going to be better (smaller/faster/more capable) hardware.
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I completely agree with you. I will not get one of these 2 devices either because of the price and its not a huge upgrade from the 6P imo.
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The 6P is a bit of an oddball unit, not really necessary, since it is a downgrade from the 6 before it (face it, 64bit doesn't provide any benefit to the workloads you get on a PHONE), and a very highly optimized and cool running 32bit chip can run circles around a run of the mill bone stock A57 reference toaster element.
Now the new kryo cores... those are optimized cool running 64bit chips in the same way as the 32bit krait450. Certainly not enough to be worth spending a pile of money on to replace a Nexus 6, but if you're in need of a phone, it is definitely the best and would be the best choice.
I'm hanging on to my Nexus 6, but I'm getting the pixel 5/128 for the wife, whose Nexus 5 is starting to flake out.
I think that one of the problems that people have is in understanding when to buy a phone and when not to. There are NO "revolutionary" new things to be had, the changes are incremental. So don't do stupid things like continually replacing your phone with whatever the "newest" one is, since there won't be a significant difference. But when you *need* a new phone, then pick the best nexus/pixel and buy it.
boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
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boy they missed the boat on this one. Pricing is outrageous. I'm not an iphone user . but As much as it looks like it wants to be, its not an iphone. Your average joe isn't going to buy this at this price. They'll say, google pixel, eh never heard of it, i'm not dropping $900 on a phone i've never heard of. But they will drop $900 on an iphone because it has created a brand that people know and trust. This is a major fail in pricing. At this price it should have EVERYTHING out there, it doesn't even have wireless charging, no expandable memory, no removalable battery, and isnt' even water proof. It'd be a HARD sell to get a normal person to fork out 100-125 more for this over a S7 or similar. FAIL
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Those features are not there yet because there has to be something left for the coming generations of pixels in case there is no big development of software...
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In Germany you have to pay 759€ for the version with 32GB.
Sorry Google but I just did something I thought I'd never do: buy a Nexus from last year instead buying the very best Google has to offer.
For 245€ I got a 32 GB Nexus 5x. A good upgrade form my 16GB Nexus 4 which I loved so much.
Sure, I get it: let's just price the Pixel nearly the same as an iPhone 7 but for a company that's doing 'its very own phone' (hello HTC) for the first time this price is just nuts.
I am so angry atm but I really want to hear your opinion on pricing. Except daydream VR this phone has simply nothing that stands out from the competition and now please don't come with the 'best camera in any smartphone'. I have waited for a big nexus upgrade for years now and I can't believe that this is ruined by a price that's beyond good and evil. I kinda waited the whole time for 'one more thing'.....the pixel will support Andromeda via USB type C in the future or something similar but no.
BIG DISAPPOINTMENT.
Very happy that I got a Nexus 5x now so cheap!
I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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I totally agree. I've been waiting for an upgrade to the Nexus 5 for years and Google have blown it with this crazy price. :crying:
I bet the pixel won't even run as well as the Nexus 5 in the good old days of kit kat and for double the price. WTF, Google. Apart from doze, it's all been down hill since kit kat.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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I was burnt by the low ram on the Nexus 9 so I'm giving the 5x a miss. It will be the one plus 3 or a Nexus 6p if I see one at the right price. Thanks for the suggestion seb. :highfive:
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You'll love the 5X if you are coming from the Nexus 5 (Specially because of the Fingerprint sensor). But I must confess the only cons is the RAM. Nexus 5 have much more free ram because it's android x86. The 5X consumes much more ram and, hence, it redraws more apps.
Also, the hi frequency of the cores in the N5 sometimes gives a good boost of performance, but that's more personal, and I still prefer 5X's SoC, because the 5's SoC used to thermal throttle and decrease performance often in summer.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.
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N5 is not x86 its arm.
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You re right I tend to confuse x86 with 32-bit. I'd meant 32-bit
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Here in Germany it starts at 759,00 € or $851.37.
I think it would be cheaper to buy it in the US and pay the taxes.
Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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Bummer that the pixel is so expensive. On the other hand though, Google allows you to finance the phone so I MAY do that. $649 up front is too much, but $27/month is fine.
I'm very interested in the new google assistant because I use google now a lot. Also, I use google photos as well so the free unlimited storage is very enticing.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
$$$ no way Jose
Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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It doesn't look like you can do the financing option in the UK yet.
For anyone in a location in which the financing option is available is it possible to upgrade after a year? One nice thing about the Apple upgrade program is that even though it is a 2 year agreement you can upgrade every year provided you return your old phone in good condition which shouldn't be too hard as it includes accidental damage cover.
Obviously if you only upgrade your phone once every 2 years either would be fine, but I'm a bit worried Google will actually work out twice as expensive as owning an Apple device if you upgrade each year...
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My EXACT thoughts, as well. I recently made the switch away from Android for the first time to see what all the fuss was about with the iPhone 7. So far, I must admit that I am very pleased with the phone. Especially with how seamless it is with my Mac. But I was still anticipating the Pixel launch to see what Google had to offer. The phone itself looks great. But what you mentioned above is the big thing preventing me from returning the iPhone and getting the Pixel phone. With the iPhone, I'm locked in for two years but when the new one comes out next year I just take this one into the Apple store and walk out with the new one. It's a really great concept.
I'm afraid you are right about Google. I imagine if they were going to have an upgrade program, they would have announced it when discussing pricing to help justify the extremely high price point. Without that and with the resale value of these phones being about 50% 12 months after purchasing (based off what I've seen from the recent Nexus phones), the total cost to upgrade to the new Google phone every year just skyrocketed compared to what it used to be with the sub $450 nexus phones.
Because of this I'm having a very hard time trying to justify picking one up. Which is sad considering this will now be the first Nexus (i know... "Pixel") I haven't purchased after initial release.
EDIT: After wasting my afternoon reading tons of articles about the phone and watching the first few "hands on" videos, I decided to bite the bullet and purchase the 5" Pixel (Black, 128GB version). I have 3 more days to return my iPhone 7 for a full refund so it was either do it now or face the possibility of regret and be stuck with this $850 iPhone.
I still think the Pixel is overpriced but it does look to be an extremely solid phone. And I opted for the 128GB version to give myself a little future proofing. I'm planning on holding onto the Pixel for 2 years this time around, rather than making a quick phone jump again next year. This mindset helped me justify the price. Hopefully I can stick to that plan.
The pixel is so average, it has nothing my £300 OnePlus 3 doesn't have. Google's phone is overpriced and about as naff as their new bull**** chat app, Allo. Not impressed. Sub par. And those prices? Google has shot right up the ranks of overpriced **** to join Apple and Samsung. Ludicrous.
another thing I want to mention: Google spoke all the time about how Hardware and Software works together in this phone, especially with the Google assistant but hell, we all know that the assistant has nothing to do with hardware. It's just Android 7.1 and exclusivnes. Plus most of the talked about 'features' were just apps you can get in the playstore.
Another thing: if I buy an iPhone for the same price, I kind of know that I can sell it after like 11month for about 75% of the original price. NOT so with the pixel plus Apple provides the longest software updates. Just remember how freacking long the iPhone 4 was supported..!!
I am happy if my upcoming 5x would get fully featured Android 8. Even now when Android 7.1 seems ready they said that first betas can be expected by the end of the year..??!
I'd suggest the honor 8 if you want a one handed phone that's cheap and great quality
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Bought the wife a 5x on sale 6 weeks ago for $199 shipped (new)
I've had a nexus 5 since release in 2013.
Was chomping at the bit for the new Google phone.
Was hoping no more than $499, nope.
So bought a moto g4 plus yesterday for $249.
Only 2 gigs ram and 16 gig storage but has an sd card slot.
Much better looking display than the 5x. 3000 mah battery.
Unless you need a lot of ram for gaming or whatever the moto is a good choice.
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Me too, bought the Moto G4 Plus for 266 euro`s a week ago and its working perfect for me and has a front firing speaker. I`am never paying more then 400 euro`s tops for a phone again
Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Everyone moans about the price. No shet its expensive. Its got the latest and greatest hardware in
Same in computing, same in cars
I hate apple with a passion but they do make well put together phones. If this is anything like that of be happy to shell out
Hardly any android phones feel premium. Only one that comes close is the s7edge but that's just because of the screen (which is pretty pointless)
Jesus Christ
Even if you compared stuff like ram I guarantee the ram in the pixel is faster than anything else out all for about a month lol
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Nexus was never about premium feel. It was nexus just like an iphone is iphone. It was for people who wanted more from their device, who liked to tinker it, play with it. In short having a nexus meant you own your device and at affordable price.
Now with newer, pricier and premium pixel, they may hit new customers who like premium devices, people who change phones faster than seasons change, but they lost their fan base, tinkerers, developers. Most of them are students, young part time workers.
I feel pixel is just an iphone made by google and i m hugely disappointed. It may offer a great experience for user but as an android enthusiast, I don't see it's worth of that much money.
I was really interested in replacing my Honor 6 within the next months, but honestly, with those prices, I think I'll either stick with it, or go buying the Honor 8....
Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
Any recommendations for 5" pixel substitute? I need something unlocked but can't don't want to carry anything larger than 5.
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Sorry Google, but this is just too overpriced to be a *good* phone.
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This sentence doesn't make any sense. The price has nothing to do with whether or not it is a "good" phone.
Quite frankly, the more I think about it, the more comfortable I am with the increased pricing. Over the years the Nexus sections of XDA have become overly saturated with kids whose parents bought their ~$350 phones for them and then they flood the Nexus sub-forums expecting to be spoon-fed everything without trying to learn things themselves from the plethora of guides and helpful posts readily available to them. All while refusing to contribute anything worthwhile to the community. It's gotten so bad that spending time in the Nexus forums has me wondering why I even bother anymore. Many developers have expressed the same feelings.
I'm really hoping the increased pricing of the Pixel phones will help keep the kids away and allow the Pixel forums to remain clean and full of people who actually like to contribute. Similar to how it was back in the early Nexus days.
I'm on my G3 right now -- happily using a rooted stock-based ROM from our very own XDA. My battery life has been decreasing a while now for years, so I think it's just time to replace my phone.
I was excited for the Pixel 2's, but all the screen problems have me worried. I think I've narrowed down my choices to:
Pixel 2
Moto Z2 Force
S8
Essential Phone, with the Price Drop
So I'm wondering which do you think I should get? This is on Verizon btw. I'm really torn and love my G3 so I'm really hesitant to get fully convinced to buy one.
Pixel 2: Better camera, fastest android update and "exclusive" features. Many of which you can install apps to get those feautures and eventually google will make them public, just like the assistant last year.
Moto Z force: Smaller battery than the Essential but you have many mods available.
S8: Samsung bloat is just horrible.
Essential: Hardware and build quality is great but we have very limited accesories. Stock android out of the box is amazing, no need of custom roms at the moment.
Ok, so want a new phone coming from my current Nexus 6P, which I love, but battery issues, and the speakers have gotten bad, so need a new phone in the next month or so. I originally liked the Pixel 2 XL, but for $950 for the 128GB version, I find that outrageous, especially with the poor bad displays most are shipping with, and news today they are failing Quality Control tests from Google too now. I paid $499 for my 64GB Nexus 6P brand new from Google, to me the Pixel 2 XL is what a Nexus 8P could have been, and would have priced like $599 or so. Out of principle I won't give Google the cash for a Pixel. But let's not go there with this discussion.
- Essential @ $499 ( root and ROM's supposedly should start coming in November )
- OnePlus 5T @ ? $550 ? ( 6" display, fingerprint scanner on the rear, 18:9 aspect ratio. Officially announcement due soon )
I want a stock Android type OS, with good battery life, that will get me 6h Screen On time or more. I want a bright display, and smooth OS. I always root my phones, and maybe a custom ROM too. And I want the price under $600. So Essential or OnePlus 5T ?
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Ok, so want a new phone coming from my current Nexus 6P, which I love, but battery issues, and the speakers have gotten bad, so need a new phone in the next month or so. I originally liked the Pixel 2 XL, but for $950 for the 128GB version, I find that outrageous, especially with the poor bad displays most are shipping with, and news today they are failing Quality Control tests from Google too now. I paid $499 for my 64GB Nexus 6P brand new from Google, to me the Pixel 2 XL is what a Nexus 8P could have been, and would have priced like $599 or so. Out of principle I won't give Google the cash for a Pixel. But let's not go there with this discussion.
- Essential @ $499 ( root and ROM's supposedly should start coming in November )
- OnePlus 5T @ ? $550 ? ( 6" display, fingerprint scanner on the rear, 18:9 aspect ratio. Officially announcement due soon )
I want a stock Android type OS, with good battery life, that will get me 6h Screen On time or more. I want a bright display, and smooth OS. I always root my phones, and maybe a custom ROM too. And I want the price under $600. So Essential or OnePlus 5T ?
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I came from the 6p then HTC u11. I love the essential. I always root and flash latest and greatest but that is not available and we may never see a strong dev community. With that being said the essential is amazing stock. Between the one plus and essential I think it'll come down to preference. The essential looks and feels great while the one plus looks very Samsung like. I do not regret the 700 I spent on the essential and might cancel my pixel 2 xl order after seeing all the screen issues. But I'll for sure keep the essential
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Ok, so want a new phone coming from my current Nexus 6P, which I love, but battery issues, and the speakers have gotten bad, so need a new phone in the next month or so. I originally liked the Pixel 2 XL, but for $950 for the 128GB version, I find that outrageous, especially with the poor bad displays most are shipping with, and news today they are failing Quality Control tests from Google too now. I paid $499 for my 64GB Nexus 6P brand new from Google, to me the Pixel 2 XL is what a Nexus 8P could have been, and would have priced like $599 or so. Out of principle I won't give Google the cash for a Pixel. But let's not go there with this discussion.
- Essential @ $499 ( root and ROM's supposedly should start coming in November )
- OnePlus 5T @ ? $550 ? ( 6" display, fingerprint scanner on the rear, 18:9 aspect ratio. Officially announcement due soon )
I want a stock Android type OS, with good battery life, that will get me 6h Screen On time or more. I want a bright display, and smooth OS. I always root my phones, and maybe a custom ROM too. And I want the price under $600. So Essential or OnePlus 5T ?
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I think that we all are missing an important feature from Essential, mods. Yes, we only have on the moment but maybe in a few months essential and third party will bring great features to the essential phone using mods. That for me gives an advantage to the essential over OP5T, because software and hardware are almost the same.
Little worried buying one from Best Buy, scared it may be old original manufactured units, and the ones bought directly from Essential themselves would be newer manufactured phones, with fixes ?
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Little worried buying one from Best Buy, scared it may be old original manufactured units, and the ones bought directly from Essential themselves would be newer manufactured phones, with fixes ?
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At least if you get it from Best Buy you can pick it up or they will actually give you shipping information. Ordered one from the Essential website at 7am yesterday, got order confirmation, they took the money and I have heard nothing since about shipping.
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At least if you get it from Best Buy you can pick it up or they will actually give you shipping information. Ordered one from the Essential website at 7am yesterday, got order confirmation, they took the money and I have heard nothing since about shipping.
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I ordered mine Sunday and didn't get the shipping info until today. Should be here by Friday.
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Little worried buying one from Best Buy, scared it may be old original manufactured units, and the ones bought directly from Essential themselves would be newer manufactured phones, with fixes ?
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What is wrong with the older batch of essential phones?
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I ordered mine Sunday and didn't get the shipping info until today. Should be here by Friday.
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Got my info late yesterday as well. Mine is also Friday by 10:30. Seems they have no warehousing in the US since they ship from China.
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Little worried buying one from Best Buy, scared it may be old original manufactured units, and the ones bought directly from Essential themselves would be newer manufactured phones, with fixes ?
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I purchased mine form Best Buy yesterday and it seems fine. I haven't even looked at the speaker grill and I'm not going to. My phone seems perfect so far, and if something goes wrong in the future, I'll just send it to Essential. All of the problems I've had in the last month with other flagships, the Essential phone is a breath of fresh air.
Edit...This phone against other flagships. I would either get this phone or the OnePlus. But I chose the Essential because of the beautiful hardware, and big screen on a small frame.
Old essential phones
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What is wrong with the older batch of essential phones?
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I am also curious as to what the difference is. I bought mine from Best buy as well.
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I am also curious as to what the difference is. I bought mine from Best buy as well.
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There have been complaints about the speaker grill on older phones. Apparently Essential used a piece of fabric as the speaker grill. This fabric seems to be damaged easily. If you get a newer phone, this fabric has been replaced with a something else, maybe metal, I don't know. I'm not going to worry about it though. There have also been reports of the newer phones having tougher ceramic on the back, more scratch resistant. That is pure speculation though. I say don't worry about these things, and enjoy your new phone. If you have a problem later, surely Essential will fix it.
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There have been complaints about the speaker grill on older phones. Apparently Essential used a piece of fabric as the speaker grill. This fabric seems to be damaged easily. If you get a newer phone, this fabric has been replaced with a something else, maybe metal, I don't know. I'm not going to worry about it though. There have also been reports of the newer phones having tougher ceramic on the back, more scratch resistant. That is pure speculation though. I say don't worry about these things, and enjoy your new phone. If you have a problem later, surely Essential will fix it.
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I see. Yes mine is definitely "metal" I'm guessing titanium? It looks no different than the rest of the side band.
I've keep hearing speaker grill issue and I just got one from Best Buy the day before. What exactly the speaker grill issue is? Any photo?
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I've keep hearing speaker grill issue and I just got one from Best Buy the day before. What exactly the speaker grill issue is? Any photo?
THanks
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. There is a thread with photos on Reddit about this. Essential was replacing older phones with new phones with an updated speaker grill, but now someone said that they are repairing the phones instead of replacing them. I don't think it's a big issue myself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/essential/comments/74bkv5/here_is_the_difference_in_speaker_grills/
Edit...FYI, the speaker grill on last year's Pixel is also fabric.
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I wouldn't worry too much about it. There is a thread with photos on Reddit about this. Essential was replacing older phones with new phones with an updated speaker grill, but now someone said that they are repairing the phones instead of replacing them. I don't think it's a big issue myself.
https://www.reddit.com/r/essential/comments/74bkv5/here_is_the_difference_in_speaker_grills/
Edit...FYI, the speaker grill on last year's Pixel is also fabric.
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My phone has the old style speaker grill, and I could really care less. I'm not sure why so many people think this is an actual issue.
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I was trying to sell one pixel 2 xl on swappa and the prices are going crazy low. How are all these people selling new 128 GB for just $700ish range ? The phone isn't really that old yet.
Verizon's running a $300 off on it.
I'm noticing the same thing. I considered selling my 2 XL and picking up a OnePlus 5T. When I took a look at pricing on SWAPPA I was very surprised to see the current prices people are selling the phone for. Previously, the Nexus/Pixel line-up held their value much better than what I'm seeing with the current 2 XL. It's sad but I think it can be chalked up to all the bad publicity this phone keeps receiving. Talk of these issues is seemingly more widespread than I thought.
For instance, on Christmas day a family member was checking out my phone and even though he is not a tech guy by any means, even he brought up the screen burn-in issues as well as the speaker buzzing noise issues. It threw me off, to be honest. Especially considering that this is a guy who never researches phones and has stuck with the Galaxy phone line-up simply because I recommended it to him like 3 years ago.
There is a reason why both Google and the carriers have already dropped the price. It sucks and it's directly affecting resale value.
On the plus side, I've experienced no issues with my device and it's the best phone I've ever owned. So this is just a good nudge for me to hold onto it and enjoy it longer, rather than making a jump to something else and inevitably regretting it.
Add to this, the starting prices were up there with the iPhone X and Samsung Note 8! Previously Nexus phones were a good bit cheaper than the highest premium phones...this is why they were able to hold value longer.
True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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True. Personally, I don't consider Verizon to be a viable option because it is locked down. It equates to a regular Samsung phone at this point that is locked, but that is not what everyone thinks.
What really gets me is the price. Google did not do any price drops, they just did the holiday specials which was like 50 or 75 bucks.
But on swappa some people are selling the 128 for about 700 bucks. I don't know how they're getting the phones so cheap to sell them for that price. I hope the phone doesn't end up being like the essential phone what the pricing
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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True. I am hoping it doesn't plunge down..I just think the google one should and would hold the price against the Verizon one. It's like in the old days, Verizon and att phones had lower prices used than the T-Mobile ones because of the unlocked bl stuff.
Maybe I am just mad that since the pixel XL last year held up the price value well for a few months and didn't really drop dramatically except when the pixel 2 s were announced.
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As for last year you really can't compare, unfortunately. Google didn't give 5 cents off the Pixel or the XL even on black Friday. Verizon had one day, and that was BF, that they gave a tremendous deal of $10 / month and $15 for the XL for 24 months. That was it! Eventually they had a lame trade in deal but nothing from Google. This year is way different. There is really no reason to be spending more than 4 or 5 hundred for any of the devices with trade in at Google and VZW. I mean I believe that VZW even has a $300 off with no trade in! But then you're locked into them for 2 years and no bl unlock. So I believe that the price will not drop past the 6 or 7 number for some time. But I've been wrong once or twice..
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Touchwiz on a Sammy device is not quite the same as having a Google device, whether or not you bl unlock, but that's just me. Anyway, they are selling for closer to $800 new or mint. On the Google store you can get a brand new one for about $875. But perhaps you are forgetting about the trade in too. I can trade in my old Pixel and get another $300+ off that price. So I really don't think it has lost as much value as you suspect. And as for the Verizon branded one I paid $350 on BF (Pixel XL) with no trade in. If I sold it for $650 and used my old Pixel for another year I just netted close to 3 hundred. Personally, I think we're doing ok so far. Let's see in 6 months, however.
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
Also the pixel has $300+ off but I got $425 off my note 8 and had it the day it was released thanks to a preorder! I think I was like $570 ish for the note 8 out the door and shipped so the $300 off for the pixel seems quite small now! Let's see what it is in 6 months glad I sent my first few pixels back and got the newer $75 off savings!
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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
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Touchwiz has come a long way imo. The note 8 is a beast and it runs touchwiz, it junk back on like S3 & S4 but now it is great!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
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I've gotta agree with this. I was pleasantly surprised with the Touchwiz UI on my Galaxy S8. It never stuttered or lagged and was just as fast as my previous Pixel XL and current Pixel 2 XL. Touchwiz really has come a long way. The same cannot be said for the LG V30, however. LG's skin on that phone is absolutely horrible. It lags/stutters/hangs constantly and no matter how many LG apps you disable, it doesn't fix it.
If LG would have just refrained from touching the OS on that phone and left it with stock Android, I never would have bought my 2 XL to begin with. Such a sad let down. The V30 is just collecting dust on my office shelf. I need to take it back to T-Mobile but I keep forgetting about it.
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Oh man the LG phone software dept is need of a revamp. It has been awful! I had a G4, G5, & G6 and literally could only use for a few days it was so bad!
I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I'd agree with this as well. My last Samsung device was the GS7 Edge and I was quite impressed. The performance was great and while not quite as fluid as the Pixel, was very consistent and stable, never slowing down over time. I think Samsung's kitchen sink approach from years past has paid off in the sense that the software additions they've kept are generally pretty useful and thoughtful additions not available in the pure Android experience.
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Yeah you should try the s8 or note 8. They are extremely fluid compared to the pixel not quite as fluid but very very close. Also the extra ram in note is helpful especially with the kitchen sink approach
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I agree they have good hardware but their software is just plain awful! Send the v30 to me I'll test on Verizon!!
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I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
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I would but I've got it on my JUMP-On Demand program so I need to keep it to trade in on something else, at some point. I'm considering trading it in for the iPhone X to mess with for a while.
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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
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Man I wouldn't. The Iphone X is so small and weird UI imo the swipe thing is odd, the notch is odd, no fingerprint is odd and then small screen. Just get note 8 and be done!
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Eh, I'd prefer to turn the V30 in for nothing in return but then I'd lose my JUMP On-Demand. So I'll probably just trade the V30 in on a super cheap $5/month phone to have as a back-up, just in case.
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Why are you against the note? Lol
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oneandroidnut said:
Why are you against the note? Lol
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Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
sn0warmy said:
Not against the note. I've just decided to hold on to the 2 XL because it's been great. I just need a cheap phone to keep my JUMP On-Demand program with TMobile. No sense in paying $30/month for the note to just throw it in a drawer.
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I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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oneandroidnut said:
I see. I think the note & pixel combo is going to be hard to beat. That's what I'm going to be switching between
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If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
sn0warmy said:
If I traveled more for work I'd probably get the note 8 to have the stylus, allowing me to be more productive with my phone on the go.
It's definitely something I may start considering, actually.
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I mean I don't travel on the road but I love almost everything about phone except just slightly too tall and fingerprint sensor placement. I use pen to keep screen clean if hands are dirty etc
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