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Back from the 6P

I just can't seem to help myself, every year I buy the new Nexus as soon as it comes out. This year was no different with the Nexus 6P. After using the 6P for a few months, I am back to the N6. The 6P was great but there is just something about the N6 that keeps me coming back. Here is what I found;
The larger screen on the N6 is better for me. (The phones are almost the same size in height)
Wireless charging - I liked it more than the fingerprint unlock.
The bottom and top bezels on the N6P are just too large - almost like an iPhone.
What are your thoughts?

The lack of wireless charging was/is the deal breaker for me. I've had all the latest and greatest Nexus phones since the Nexus S. Hopefully my lack of voting with my dollars send a message to Google... I choose wireless charging over a phone that's a 1mm thinner. Time will tell, in the meantime I've got my 64g N6 and a backup 32g N6 just in case.
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Trade my n6 for a 6p.. Lol who's down ?

geebee1932 said:
I just can't seem to help myself, every year I buy the new Nexus as soon as it comes out. This year was no different with the Nexus 6P. After using the 6P for a few months, I am back to the N6. The 6P was great but there is just something about the N6 that keeps me coming back. Here is what I found;
The larger screen on the N6 is better for me. (The phones are almost the same size in height)
Wireless charging - I liked it more than the fingerprint unlock.
The bottom and top bezels on the N6P are just too large - almost like an iPhone.
What are your thoughts?
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I'm coming up on my deadline to be able to return my 6p and am also missing my n6. I really miss the wireless charging also.
Mostly what has me concerned is the whole bending controversy on the 6p. I baby it but would be really pissed off if I found a bend on the frame for no reason. Anyways, I feel the 6p was not a huge step forward besides the camera and fingerprint sensor, there isn't much that wows me. Maybe I'll get the 6 again and wait til the next iteration of nexus.
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Henrock11 said:
I'm coming up on my deadline to be able to return my 6p and am also missing my n6. I really miss the wireless charging also.
Mostly what has me concerned is the whole bending controversy on the 6p. I baby it but would be really pissed off if I found a bend on the frame for no reason. Anyways, I feel the 6p was not a huge step forward besides the camera and fingerprint sensor, there isn't much that wows me. Maybe I'll get the 6 again and wait til the next iteration of nexus.
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I have not had any bending issues, but I keep a case on it.

I wirelessly charge my N6, but wireless charging was not the deal breaker for me. The 6P just wasn't a large enough step forward. Like @Henrock11 said, the camera and fingerprint scanner weren't reason enough to move forward. My 6 gets great battery life and is buttery smooth with M.
Hopefully the 2016 Nexus 6 will have the Snapdragon 820. I'll be all over it this fall.

I haven't owned a N6p but fingerprint sensor to me is pretty important in my next phone, it has a lot of security implications and major uses in authenticating. I hate entering my credentials in lastpass and Google authenticator.

A Huawei can't just pretend to be like a Motorola. There is a learning curve...

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The bezel craze and the rip off of iPhone was unbearable in 2016.
Never understood Android OEMs. IPhones are bland and uninspired,with huge bezels and a design language that doesnt speak to males or females.
If i wanted a phone that looked like an iPhone., i would get an iPhone.

IPhone advantage is there warranty . it follows device from the time activated. Not the purchaser. I found this out when I bought my daughter an iPhone 6 that I knew was broke. The apple support I found out it had 4 days of warranty left according to the serial number. They swapped me a new iPhone 6 64gb . others should follow apples customer service. I was amazed.

I don't really care about the wireless charging or fingerprint scanner tbh so both are a non-issue for me. The big thing is:
1. The phones are size-wise nearly the same, yet the 6p has slightly less screen.
2. I don't feel like replacing all my charger cables and the 6's micro USB is just easier with everything I have set up.
3. I don't like the build or look of the 6p. I don't know how much merit the bending issue has, but I like the plastic, it's sturdy and durable enough.

I'm holding out for 2016 Nexus especially if it really turns out to be HTC.

watzone69 said:
I'm holding out for 2016 Nexus especially if it really turns out to be HTC.
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If its htc I wonder if we will have a bad time getting s-off or if that would be an issue . my last htc device took a long time for s-off

mike102871 said:
IPhone advantage is there warranty . it follows device from the time activated. Not the purchaser. I found this out when I bought my daughter an iPhone 6 that I knew was broke. The apple support I found out it had 4 days of warranty left according to the serial number. They swapped me a new iPhone 6 64gb . others should follow apples customer service. I was amazed.
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Probably because when you buy an Iphone you pay for a couple of spare iphone..

siggey said:
Probably because when you buy an Iphone you pay for a couple of spare iphone..
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Samsungs S and Note devices are just as xpensive as iPhones nowadays in the EU

gee2012 said:
Samsungs S and Note devices are just as xpensive as iPhones nowadays in the EU
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With Knox and Exynos, the Samsungs are basically iPhones at this point.
HTC A9= iPhone rip off

I love my Nexus 6 as well! Seeing your thread only helps me confirm that my decision in not ordering a 6P was the right choice. I actually ended up ordering a Brand New Cloud White 64GB Nexus 6 when Amazon had them for $250! Well, I actually ordered 10, but one was for myself! A nice phone "refresh" for me. HaHa. I ordered them the first time Amazon had the $250 sale, left them sealed and ended up selling 8 of them locally via Craigslist for $400-$450 a piece. I'm still sitting on number 9 and I sold my used one for $250, what I paid for my new one! HaHa

I forgot about the price issue. For $250 for a new nexus 6 that's easily a no brainer

Good to know they've kept some value!
I bought the Nexus 6 32GB off Amazon specifically for Project Fi at just $300, Brand new, but missing the original box and accessories. (Original owner received as a warranty replacement from Motorola, not even a refurb!)
When I received it and went to activate, Fi tossed my Google Voice number instead of using it and assigned a random replacement instead.
After hours on the phone with Google, they can't figure out how to port their own GV number into Fi.
In the meantime I had gone into the Fi app and chose the option to add another device, and a few minutes later I was approved for payments on a 6P 64GB!
Prior to activating that N6, all attempts to be approved got shot down right away. I'm thinking it's much easier to get approved with an active account, or as I've heard from others too.
Now I have an extra Midnight 32GB N6, though I wasn't too hopeful on resell without any accessories, but I had low expectations anyway.
Anyone know of a place to purchase these types of items; like just the box to a N6 and an OEM charger? I figure it may be the difference between listing it for $250 or $300.

Htc 10 Upgrading to Pixel? Anyone

Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?

bturkel said:
Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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Nope. Downgrade IMHO. Price point sucks.
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dottat said:
Nope. Downgrade IMHO. Price point sucks.
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I have to agree with this. I'm still using my M8 and held out to see what Nexus/Pixel brought, but for the price I'm going to get a used HTC 10 instead. I have always liked HTC since the M7 and nothing on the pixel seemed to pull me away. And then there's the price.
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Not an upgrade IMO. I'm sticking with the 10.
No SD card, also no wireless charging, ugly back, fingerprint on the back (forcing a hole in the case), maybe better camera, but not much.
No good reason to switch.
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Thanks for the opinions - that's basically how I feel

Ditto with the statements above. The only thing I'd love over the HTC 10 is the slightly smaller size of the Pixel and built in 128gb of storage (Still having SD card issues on my 10).
Considering I took advantage of the $100 promo right when the device came out in addition to a promo that gave me $300 for my old Turbo I only ended up paying $250 for the 10. Can't even get close to that for the Pixel.
Once Google puts their own custom SoCs aboard the Pixels....they'll have all my money.

Agree with everyone else observing that a 10 to a Pixel is a downgrade. I have a 200gb sdcard in my 10; it's easily rooted via Sunshine, running all my preferred mods via Magisk and Xposed and I have no desire to tinker with perfection for a bigger handset with smaller specs.

bturkel said:
Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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I am also Verizon HTC 10 user and yes, I am very happy with my phone.
But in future, if I have to buy a new phone even then I am not going buy Google Pixel XL. The only thing I like in Google Pixel XL is its camera quality. I don't know about other countries but in India Google Pixel XL is very expensive. For me, buying Google Pixel XL is definitely not a good move

I got one yesterday at the local Verizon store. It seems like a pretty nice phone. I like the build quality. The camera auto-focus seems hit-or-miss - that's a huge disappointment to me. Overall I prefer (and am still using) the HTC 10 as my main phone.
FWIW, I would never buy a phone as expensive as the Pixel with my own money. I got the smaller screen with the smaller memory capacity and it was still over $700 US. Lucky for me the company I work for paid for it.
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I checked out and had a play with both Pixel and Pixel xl a few days ago at JB Hifi. Although I liked the Google assist and great camera, the price couldn't be justified, especially here in Australia $1419 [USD $1080] for the 128gb XL version. I love my HTC 10, a great smartphone, and will stay with this for a while. Maybe when the market adjusts by Christmas or after New Years, the price will come down hundreds of dollars, as Pixel will be old news by then, until they launch their new version. As PocketNow stated, Pixel is quite boring from an aesthetic point of view.
Ps. Telstra carrier has exclusivity with Pixel and Pixel XL, and I can't stand their lying customer service so I'll never use their service again personally. JB Hifi sells them, but no deals atm.
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Nope...i get why Google would want to come out with something like the Pixel. It basically follows the Apple's strategy with the iPhone...which, whether you hate iPhones or not, is a business model that equals high profits. Its just that if they had taken this approach a long time ago they would actually have something. These days though, the Android market is too saturated with quality phones @ low prices for the Pixel to gain any traction

chrisz5z said:
Nope...i get why Google would want to come out with something like the Pixel. It basically follows the Apple's strategy with the iPhone...which, whether you hate iPhones or not, is a business model that equals high profits. Its just that if they had taken this approach a long time ago they would actually have something. These days though, the Android market is too saturated with quality phones @ low prices for the Pixel to gain any traction
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I agree, and I looked at a display model pixel xl at a verizon corporate store and honestly holding it, it feels cheaply made in my hand compared to my unlocked Htc 10. My Htc 10 feels more rigid and solid, like it is made of aluminum and the pixel xl in my hand feels like its plastic, I mean like there is basically nothing to it. To me you go too small and light weight and it can make it feel cheap and weak.
Anyone feel that way holding a pixel xl compared to your Htc 10 ?

M9guy said:
I agree, and I looked at a display model pixel xl at a verizon corporate store and honestly holding it, it feels cheaply made in my hand compared to my unlocked Htc 10. My Htc 10 feels more rigid and solid, like it is made of aluminum and the pixel xl in my hand feels like its plastic, I mean like there is basically nothing to it. To me you go too small and light weight and it can make it feel cheap and weak.
Anyone feel that way holding a pixel xl compared to your Htc 10 ?
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I held both and don't necessarily agree. The 10 is definitely heavier, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it's more "solidly built." I don't like rear fingerprint scanners (have it on the One Max). The Pixel is definitely more slim, sorta like the A9. That could appeal to some.

hgoldner said:
I held both and don't necessarily agree. The 10 is definitely heavier, but it doesn't necessarily feel like it's more "solidly built." I don't like rear fingerprint scanners (have it on the One Max). The Pixel is definitely more slim, sorta like the A9. That could appeal to some.
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To me the Htc 10 feels stronger. The pixel xl felt really light compared to it and it just felt weaker. If they do a bend test on a pixel xl as they did the Htc 10 I bet its no where near as rigid as the 10. I went a head and bought one any way, but it will definitely go in to a nice sturdy case but I definitely would never use one without a case. I think the less weight of the pixel xl compared to the Htc 10 is they either made the aluminum case thinner or the used less metal inside, and the pixel xl is even a bigger phone, so I definitely would recommend a strong sturdy case to everyone using a pixel xl. But I guess to the masses lighter is better. I just also felt the pixel xl in my hand really seemed so light like it might not want to stay in your hand as well but maybe that is just me being use to the beefier Htc 10.

I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.

I pulled the trigger on a verizon pixel xl. It went against my better judgment, because of no sd card slot, no dual speakers, the fingerprint scanner on the back hate that put it on the front like the Htc 10, then there is the fact that its not as rigid as the 10. I got it because of the bigger screen and the quicker updates.
I purchased from Best buy and I got a $200 best buy gift card. Actually it came the following day after I ordered on their web site, via email. I also got a free chromecast.
If Htc made a bigger screen 10 plus and a dev edition or google play edition that got quick updates then I would have bought it but since Htc's m7 max fiasco they wont make another phablet for here. I have no problem with Htc sense and I like Htc products as they are the best built phones. Hopefully next spring the Htc 11 has a plus model with a 5.7 or 5.9 screen and get the dev or google play fast updates like lets say with in 2 weeks of google releasing system updates, just something way better than 90 days. If they release the dev or gp models they can have updates out with in 2 weeks as its pure stock android. I just want quick updates.
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pjd2011 said:
I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
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You can purchase from Best buy like I did and I got a $200 best buy gift card. Actually it came the following day after I ordered on their web site, via email. I also got a free chromecast.

pjd2011 said:
I think we can all agree that the specs just don't warrant the price premium. A quick check on Swappa is showing as some used 10's going for $375. If you have to have Verizon this is the best phone (price wise) we can get. If the One Plus 3 worked with Verizon it might be a different story.
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This is exactly what made my decision. I was on the M8 and waited until after the Pixel was announced to make my choice. I ended up buying a used HTC 10 for $375 (ironically) and I love it! Most of the posts here agreed that the Pixel wasn't enough of an upgrade over the 10 to justify the price and so I figured why not.
Now I have not even seen a Pixel in person yet so I really can't compare, but I know I'm happy with my M8 to 10 transition.
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Don't really see the point in spending hundreds on another 2016 flagship when you already have a 2016 flagship. You'll have more of a difference saving that money and getting a 2017 flagship.
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bturkel said:
Anyone getting the Pixel, upgrading from HTC 10? I am a rooted HTC10 Verizon phone user. Just wanting to see if anyone else is contemplating on getting the Pixel, if so the Google or Verizon version?
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I was considering it, but then CM 13 came out, so I could satisfy my desire for a stock android feel. CM 13 is actually surprisingly stable for what I need it for, and Android N-ify is fully functional, so I had no problem with not have Nougat either.

Well- I grabbed a 32gb Silver for $480 from a guy here - I am testing it this weekend - already rooted and Hotspot working - I will see how I like it - thought it was a good deal so WHY NOT. Still Love my HTC but I run with this for a bit and see how it compares

Going to buy a used 6p

Hi all,
As the title says , I'm going to buy a 1yr used nexus 6p tomorrow,so, what are all the things to check while buying it?
Is there any app to check all the components,features,sensors,battery?
Guide me on this...I don't want to get cheated..
Thank you

udahy.manna said:
Hi all,
As the title says , I'm going to buy a 1yr used nexus 6p tomorrow,so, what are all the things to check while buying it?
Is there any app to check all the components,features,sensors,battery?
Guide me on this...
Thank you
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check for battery measurements when you first get the phone and check again after you have reviewed other details, just cause you wouldn't wanna get stuck with a phone that has a bad battery ( which might happen cause of the early shut off issues reported here ) if it is a bad battery you can buy an after market one and that will fix the issue but you can sway seller for a better price
check the volume and power buttons and ensure that it has click and are fully functional
check head phone jack for audio
check charger port for any damage
ask seller if it has the early shut down issue and if so since when and at what percentage does it do it on.
ask seller if he has orignal proof of purchase he can provide so in case of a warranty claim you can get a hold of that POP which he can black out as all they need is a picture of the receipt .
make sure to ask where the device was purchased from.
does the screen work fine?? go on google.com and see if theres any abnormalities against the white back ground.
do the speakers work>>?
how about the cameras??
does it make phone calls with no mic or headset issues?
hope this helps.

TBH, I wouldn't buy a 6P. Many of them are having battery issues right now, and unless it still has warranty support and/or was purchased from the Google store, it will be really annoying. May I ask what you'll be paying for it? That may change my mind, but I would wait for the G6, S8 or the Pixel to drop and get one of those instead.
I've loved my 6P, but it's now outdated since Google isn't really supporting it anymore with the Pixel out and the widespread battery issues.
edit: the guy above me has a good post on what to look for. you may want to use swappa to make sure the imei number hasn't been reported for anything. https://swappa.com/esn

lotreaglesfan said:
TBH, I wouldn't buy a 6P. Many of them are having battery issues right now, and unless it still has warranty support and/or was purchased from the Google store, it will be really annoying. May I ask what you'll be paying for it? That may change my mind, but I would wait for the G6, S8 or the Pixel to drop and get one of those instead.
I've loved my 6P, but it's now outdated since Google isn't really supporting it anymore with the Pixel out and the widespread battery issues.
edit: the guy above me has a good post on what to look for. you may want to use swappa to make sure the imei number hasn't been reported for anything. https://swappa.com/esn
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I'm getting it for 290 bucks..He has the bill and warranty got over..

i42o said:
check for battery measurements when you first get the phone and check again after you have reviewed other details, just cause you wouldn't wanna get stuck with a phone that has a bad battery ( which might happen cause of the early shut off issues reported here ) if it is a bad battery you can buy an after market one and that will fix the issue but you can sway seller for a better price
check the volume and power buttons and ensure that it has click and are fully functional
check head phone jack for audio
check charger port for any damage
ask seller if it has the early shut down issue and if so since when and at what percentage does it do it on.
ask seller if he has orignal proof of purchase he can provide so in case of a warranty claim you can get a hold of that POP which he can black out as all they need is a picture of the receipt .
make sure to ask where the device was purchased from.
does the screen work fine?? go on google.com and see if theres any abnormalities against the white back ground.
do the speakers work>>?
how about the cameras??
does it make phone calls with no mic or headset issues?
hope this helps.
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Thanks a lot for this..
Sorry for being a noob..But How to get the battery measurements and how to identify whether it's good or not?

udahy.manna said:
Thanks a lot for this..
Sorry for being a noob..But How to get the battery measurements and how to identify whether it's good or not?
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If you install an app like AccuBattery you can't really measure battery health until you run the phone and do a charge. I've had zero serious issues with my 8 month old 6P but some people have had problems with early battery shutdown, random reboots and the as bad as it sounds boot loop of death. You are taking a chance buying a used 6P as the failure rate for these phones is much worse than it should be. At least one person reported that his early shutdown issue went away after the March update. This is obvious but make sure the phone is unlocked and has any lockscreen security disabled before you purchase it. People have claimed to have purchased locked phones that they couldn't get into on Swappa. I would reboot the phone and see if everything boots up ok and play some music through the speakers. There's not really much you can do beforehand to tell if the phone is a lemon. You are basically relying on the honesty of the seller to disclose if there are problems are not. You definitely want to verify that the phone is up and running before handing over any money. Good luck.

udahy.manna said:
I'm getting it for 290 bucks..He has the bill and warranty got over..
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that is quite a bit tbh. You could probably get a used s7 edge for that amount.
6p is nice but build quality isn't all that great. I got screen burn in pretty quickly too (from the soft keys), which I've never had on any phone before.

Find out the manufacturing date

I wouldn't buy a used 6P without any warranty. Just too many potential issues.
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290 for a one year 6P but 32, 64 or 128GB?
The price of used and new 6P have increased like crazy (for reference https://keepa.com/#!product/1-B019TWO6WM). I bought my 32GB 350 euros (EU is generaly more expensive) in August last year.
I love it but it's only 8 months old and there are 2 problems that affect some users after around 1y:
1/ early battery degradation with a workaround to buy and change the battery. You can calibrate the battery and check with accubattery how much it reports. Under 2700mAh the battery is officially considered End Of Life by the OEM
2/ the other is boot loop of death with no known workaround. You have a 290$ brick.
I wouldn't put more than 200 on a 32GB. And knowing the potential problems mentioned above, I'm not even sure I would by a 1y 6P.

crixley said:
that is quite a bit tbh. You could probably get a used s7 edge for that amount.
6p is nice but build quality isn't all that great. I got screen burn in pretty quickly too (from the soft keys), which I've never had on any phone before.
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I changed my mind thanks to ur advice..
Shall I go for pixel ?
I got an offer of 530$(35k INR) for pixel 32 GB (one month used ) with bill and 11 months of warranty.
What do you say?

udahy.manna said:
I changed my mind thanks to ur advice..
Shall I go for pixel ?
I got an offer of 530$(35k INR) for pixel 32 GB (one month used ) with bill and 11 months of warranty.
What do you say?
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It's supposed to be a really good phone, I would definitely get one

I bought a brand new 6P 3 weeks ago ($500) and haven't looked back or regretted. It's still really one of the top Android phones most specifically from an Android development perspective. Octos ROM with Flash kernel with substratum mods is all I need at the moment to make this thing what I need.
Maybe in several months or a year the battery gets shot, but by then I'll be ready to move on to a new device. This was to replace my Nexus 6 which I almost literally hacked to death, killed the battery. The Verizon Pixel can't be unlocked-rooted now, so the 6P was my choice. If you get a non-Verizon Pixel and want to root, then maybe that's the device to get. Huge bezel though - ouch can't get over that and the Iphone-like hardware.
To each his/her own!!

darbylonia said:
I bought a brand new 6P 3 weeks ago ($500) and haven't looked back or regretted. It's still really one of the top Android phones most specifically from an Android development perspective. Octos ROM with Flash kernel with substratum mods is all I need at the moment to make this thing what I need.
Maybe in several months or a year the battery gets shot, but by then I'll be ready to move on to a new device. This was to replace my Nexus 6 which I almost literally hacked to death, killed the battery. The Verizon Pixel can't be unlocked-rooted now, so the 6P was my choice. If you get a non-Verizon Pixel and want to root, then maybe that's the device to get. Huge bezel though - ouch can't get over that and the Iphone-like hardware.
To each his/her own!!
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IPhone hardware is great though. When you hold it it feels like a very premium device. Apple and Samsung are making the most consistent and well made phones imo. I like both personally. Even if you hate apple, there is no denying they do a good job on the hardware. So many phones have large bezels, however that will be a thing of the past soon enough.
That being said, the 6p is a great phone no doubt and I don't think anyone said otherwise. For the money he is spending though he could afford something better imo.
It was great for the price, it is nearing EOL though

darbylonia said:
I bought a brand new 6P 3 weeks ago ($500) and haven't looked back or regretted. It's still really one of the top Android phones most specifically from an Android development perspective. Octos ROM with Flash kernel with substratum mods is all I need at the moment to make this thing what I need.
Maybe in several months or a year the battery gets shot, but by then I'll be ready to move on to a new device. This was to replace my Nexus 6 which I almost literally hacked to death, killed the battery. The Verizon Pixel can't be unlocked-rooted now, so the 6P was my choice. If you get a non-Verizon Pixel and want to root, then maybe that's the device to get. Huge bezel though - ouch can't get over that and the Iphone-like hardware.
To each his/her own!!
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The verizon pixel can't be rooted or the bootloader unlocked? Since when?
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bigmatt503 said:
The verizon pixel can't be rooted or the bootloader unlocked? Since when?
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From what I've read, 7.1.1 Verizon Pixel XL bootloader cannot be unlocked as of earlier this month, but perhaps that's changed recently.

darbylonia said:
From what I've read, 7.1.1 Verizon Pixel XL bootloader cannot be unlocked as of earlier this month, but perhaps that's changed recently.
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Wow that's horrible that would totally defeat the purpose of having a "nexus" (I know it's pixel but still same concept, pure android device)

crixley said:
Wow that's horrible that would totally defeat the purpose of having a "nexus" (I know it's pixel but still same concept, pure android device)
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Yep, that's why i didn't get it since I'm on Verizon. And didn't want to spend so much $$$ for a device with hardware and form that didn't work for me. Can you imagine a google phone that you can't mod? Nope. :silly:

Nexus 6P in 2017?

So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.

akaTRAP said:
So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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If you can get a NEW model 64GB for a great price, then yeah. In the US, Walmart is selling a new 32GB model for $365. The phone is still fast as hell, runs 8.0 and gets monthly security updates. Ongoing community support is guaranteed for a LONG time. :good:

I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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I used my 6P for about a year without any issues but I can't recommend it to those that need a reliable phone. Definitely wouldn't pay anywhere near $400. Just too many potential issues and there's better options in that price range. I bought my 64 GB gold 6P over a year ago for about $400 but had other options (5x and 6) if it had boot loop or battery issues. Now I have the 3T and will probably sell the 6P.
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Yea I'm still weary of the bootloop. The phone I found was an official refurb from Google, but still, if it's unreliable even afterwards, I'd rather spend the extra money now so I don't have to spend even more later.
BTW I would prefer to buy one that works on all four networks. Currently on Sprint (hot garbage) but I'm looking to move to T-Mobile after I graduate.

My Pixel XL died and I picked up the Nexus 6P.
It's 95% as fast as the Pixel XL.
Apps do open faster on the Pixel, but the difference is negligible.
I never realized I'd be this happy with the 6P.
My only issue is premature battery failure.
I'd budget $25 to get a replacement battery if you're comfortable doing it yourself.
If not, then budget a lot more, or get a better phone.

how long have you had it?

Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.

wizardwiz said:
Have my 6P for 14 months now. 95% battery health and working flawlessly so far.
Can't see any reason to replace it. if the only issue I'll have in the future is the battery than I'll simply replace it and keep using it.
It got a 2K AMOLED screen , 2Ghz big cluster and 1550 little cluster CPU, 3 Gb RAM.. can't see any reason to replace it by now.
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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.

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What are you using to check your battery life? I've been trying to find something but haven't been able to.
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Accubattery

I still think it's very worthy phone even in 2017. It's my all time favorite Android phone. I've owned it twice now. I as of about 4 days ago just bought another Nexus 6p from an individual who had bought it from Google but never even opened it up. It had just been sitting in the box unopened at his house for the past two years. Although I really wanted the silver, the one he had was 64g and in frost white. When he told me what he'd sell it to me for I went into shock. I bought a brand new 64g Nexus 6p for $150!!! Sealed in box never even turned on. This phone is butter smooth. The screen is amazing. It's great for media. Runs the very latest software from Google. I like it tens times better than the Pixel. The Pixel is absolutely ugly and it's not even a true XL at 5.5 inches where the 6p is 5.7 which I would consider that to be an XL. The phone design thanks to Huawei is stunning. So yeah if you can find one in the original box at the right price that was purchased from Google in case you do need a replacement then I'd say definitely yes to getting one. Don't let the boot loop scare you. Although it happens it's not to the majority of the phones. You only hear of the bad apples and not the good ones. Well mine is perfect although it was brand new it's still two yesrs old just never opened up and my battery is fine. Just do your research and ask questions and get you one. You won't regret it. This phone is by far the best and most smooth Android phone I've ever used. It's definitely at the right price very worth buying even in 2017. I believe it will get updates until late 2018 so you're good there too. Like I said research it and definitely fine one that comes in the original box with the contents. It'll help your resell value down the road.

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So recently my M8 has decided to degrade a lot faster than a typical Android phone would, so I'm looking for an upgrade. Considering I'm still a college student, I can't make sense of spending over $500 just for a phone. I recently saw a few models (64GB and 128GB) for under $400, but would anyone still recommend buying this phone in 2017? The bootloop issue keeps me from pulling the trigger. I would rather not purchase another phone that I'm gonna want to throw at a wall only a few months into owning it.
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Don't do it... Worst build quality ever, it's essentially made out of tin foil

Until the Google Pixel dual partition phones get Xposed working, I'm sticking with the 6P.
Even TWRP doesn't backup/restore reliably for Pixel dual partition setup yet.
My 6P has RR and Xposed for Nougat working just right and I'm not letting that go.

I have my 6p for over a year now and to be honest I am not happy In 2017 you would end up much better with OnePlus 5 that has similar performance to iPhone 8 and much better than Samsung Galaxy 8. Nexus 6p is way behind them now
The "frame" (thin plastic around the screen) goes off quickly and it looks quite bad and the body is made of soft metal so you would have a lot of tiny holes and few scratches after few months (and drops). Battery is good though, after a year still holds about 95% (due to AccuBattery app) and performance itself is neither bad or good.

No it's not a good buy. You want a phone to last long look elsewhere. You might get lucky and get a good model or you might get one that has one of the many issues that plagues these phones. Go for a one plus 3T

I absolutely love mine. expect to replace the battery at some point, but other than that, I think it's still a relevant phone in 2017. buy it if you see it cheap.

So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?

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So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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kingdazy said:
So hey guys. I've not really used XDA in a while, last time really active was when I got my Note 3 (that I am STILL using today.)
My budget for a "new" phone is small, aprox 200-300. I was looking at the LGv20's, but not able to nail one down (locally) for that price.
I have an offer of a great condition Nexus 6p for 225. Should I? Any idea how common the batt/loop issues are?
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No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally

seabro01 said:
Swappa has v2O for 250-300.
My 6P has been great for over a year but I wouldn't buy even a cheap 6P unless I didn't need it to be a reliable phone. My 6P is now used as a backup.
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No. Short battery life, lag and overheating, very poor build, terrible support from Huawei. I would avoid it personally
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Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.

kingdazy said:
Thanks, guys.
When this phone came out, I SUPER wanted one bad, but pretty glad I avoided it, if what I've read online is truly a common thing and not just a vocal minority. (I tried to see if I could find actual failure stats/percentages, but nothing concrete.)
And yeah, I looked at swappa, but I'm one of those "must be in my hand to inspect before I spend" guys, online purchase of expensive used electronics makes me nervous.
Found an LG V20 for ~200 this morning, but its a bit of a drive. Might do it...
Thanks again for the XDA community support.
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Glad to help out. I try not to fanboy out on any phone I own, and be honest about the good and the bad. XDA can be the worst place to ask for advice about buying phones honestly. People will say anything is good.
I keep mine around to play around with and test android updates. It hasn't been my main phone in a while though.

Would you still buy a PH-1? How does it compare to the Oneplus 5(T)?

Hi everyone,
As I write this the Oneplus 5T launch event is a day away, however the price of the PH-1 (at Telus in Canada) has now dropped to less than the Oneplus.
To those of you who have an Essential Phone .... would you still buy it again, knowing what you do now? Have software updates fixed the negative issues that were reported in initial reviews, especially wrt camera speed? If you were choosing now between the Essential Phone and the Oneplus 5T, which way would you go?
Any advice is appreciated.

I would especially buy it now. With essential seemingly coming around with their promise to be developer friendly, I'm hoping we see more and more developers hopping on board. Seems to me that this thing is just as open as a Pixel.

I would buy one again at the lower price.
I returned mine and got a LG G6.
If I hadn't bought the LG, I'd be buying the PH-1 at the lower price.It is now a bargain.

Seeing as i am beholden to a CDMA carrier (and not leaving anytime soon), and the PH-1 works just fine with my carrier of choice, the OnePlus doesn't register on my radar. Plus i lucked out and got my PH-1 for less than half..
If OnePlus came over to the dark side...

Just gave my One plus 5 away today after going from TMobile to Sprint. One plus feels cheap compared. Also I am a bit bitter the 5t is being released 5 months later.
I had the 6gb variant, no discernable difference, maybe it's me but the blur mode vs portrait mode were similar also. Also feels like OnePlus was in a school yard discussion with the top 3 and decided not to be an flagship killer this year.

With the latest fixes for ph-1, beta Oreo, and reddit feedback I'd say it's a home run at current price point.. plus f&f gets it for 300$.. hard to pass up
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I'm thinking about this question as well. Oneplus 5T looks like Oppo R11 which I don't like. But essentail is not offical sell in China, which means I can't get warranty if I buy from Amazon US or somewhere.:crying:

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I would buy one again at the lower price.
I returned mine and got a LG G6.
If I hadn't bought the LG, I'd be buying the PH-1 at the lower price.It is now a bargain.
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Had the G6/S7 nice phones but returned them and got the Essential and have not looked back.

LordLugard said:
Seeing as i am beholden to a CDMA carrier (and not leaving anytime soon), and the PH-1 works just fine with my carrier of choice, the OnePlus doesn't register on my radar. Plus i lucked out and got my PH-1 for less than half..
If OnePlus came over to the dark side...
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Yep.
I wish I could have gottem a PH-1 for the $450 when I bought it.
The original price was just oo high for the initial issues. At $450 it's the bargain of the year.
I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon around here.
I started out with GTE MobilNet. No, old jokes please.
Anyway, I'm not interested in any phone that's not fully compatible with Verizon and fully unlocked.

No.
I like OnePlus phones, bought the One back in 2014, amazing phone, my brother was using it this year until he broke it a few months ago. But, to be honest, I really dont like what OnePlus is doing as a company for the las few years, like put out "flagships" every 6 months, giving up support for older devices, waaaaay more marketing that is a factor to the increased price of their phones. I am sure the 5T is a great device, and it is what the 5 should have been in the begining, but coming out just a few months after the 5 is kick in the nuts to their loyal and enthusiast clients, and thats the second time they do it.

I really hated the chassis of my OnePlus 5. The edges are very rounded so it's a lot more slippery than the essential. I also didn't like how wide the phone was, making it uncomfortable to hold for long periods of time. Essential feels like it's the perfect size, and for ergonomics alone, I wouldn't go back to OnePlus (although their software is WAY better than essential's at the moment, I'm banking on essential improving).

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Yep.
I wish I sould have gottem a PH-1 for the $450 when I bought it.
The original orice was just oo high for the initial issues. At $450 it's the bargain of the year.
I've been with Verizon since before they were Verizon around here.
I started out with GTE MobilNet. No, old jokes please.
Anyway, I'm not interested in any phone that's not fully compatible with Verizon and fully unlocked.
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I remember the old GTE, Bell South, Bell Atlantic days, yep..
Not to gloat, but when I said I got my PH-1 for less than half, I literally meant less than half. Lucked out and got it for literally 225 out the door. :laugh: (17 years and counting better count for something).

LordLugard said:
I remember the old GTE, Bell South, Bell Atlantic days, yep..
Not to gloat, but when I said I got my PH-1 for less than half, I literally meant less than half. Lucked out and got it for literally 225 out the door. :laugh: (17 years and counting better count for something).
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I got mine for $150 :silly:

All you sprint users...Lucky's
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I just got mine on Thursday, the pure white edition. The guy that I traded with added $250 in cash on top for my TMobile note 8 which I was bored to death with it. I'm really liking the essential phone.

stinger4321 said:
All you sprint users...Lucky's
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You can do it too! Buy 5 lines, get phone and pay it off, wait up to 48 hours, and then pay it off, finally cancel the lines. Sell as unlocked on swappa for $400 a piece. Profit $250 per phone!

JoRocker said:
You can do it too! Buy 5 lines, get phone and pay it off, wait up to 48 hours, and then pay it off, finally cancel the lines. Sell as unlocked on swappa for $400 a piece. Profit $150 per phone!
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Awesome deal.. to bad its not on their prepay..
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I would of been happy with the essential except the screen is horrible selling it and i already ordered an unlock G6

I ordered one from Telus Canada few days back and I'm gonna trust Essential to come good!
I've handled the phone and is a solid device, plus I trust Andy Rubin!
I say go for it and buy one!

Okay, so I've got a bit of a twist for you guys: first off, does the 5/5t not work on Sprint? I thought it was compatible... Second, I'm looking to upgrade my iPhone 6s, and am torn between the OnePlus 5t, Essential phone, and iPhone 8. I've heard bad things about the software on the essential phone. How bad is performance and camera really? I left Android because I couldn't stand how unusable my s7 became and don't want to go back to that