Has anyone tried any of the new 2020 Fire tablets to see if they have finally implemented app pinning (guided access in IOS parlance).
We've had Fire tablets in the past and they are completely useless for children, despite selling Kids versions, as they can easily switch from whatever app they are using to something random.
Just a quick bump. Someone must own one of the new Fire tablets to check this?
The HD 8 Plus does have App Pinning as an option. I would assume that means the 2020 HD 8 has it, as well.
Thanks JT, I discovered the answer by buying one.
The problem isn't as bad as I expected as they've hid the square app launcher instead.
Am a little confused by your comments above. I can only assume when you tried the kindles before that you didnt have the Kids mode enabled? Both of my Niece and Nephew have Older Kindle FIre devices (admittedly kids editions) and i always thought they seemed to be locked down well.
When in the childs profile they can only access the apps and stuff allocated to them. And all of the content is curated by Amazon to be age appropriate and no costs/in game charges if using the kids fire subscription (free for first 2 years then Amazon Kids + is £1.99/Month if you are a Prime Subscriber).
Having the kids tablets on this has meant that we can be confident they aren't doing anything they shouldn't and are protected from the worst the Amazon and Google stores have to offer.
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just curious to see your reasoning...
Bought both and returned the nook tablet.
the NT was far too restrictive.. they lock you down into their little world.
At least with the fire I have some options
Cheaper, its amazon, oh and the boot loader isn't locked.
Instant video app.
I have other tablets with more storage and functionality, but they don't stream Amazon instant video without some stuttering.
Still haven't decided if this is enough for me to keep the tablet.
Because ....
... my wife ordered it before the Nook tablet was announced. But now that both are public, I'm happier with the (fairly open) Kindle than I would be with the (locked down) Nook.
I'm an Amazon Prime member, and the ecosystem Amazon provides is much better than Barnes and Noble.
The only tablet out there that plays Netflix,Amozon VOD and stream espn3 without issues. Also like the UI. It does what I need it for with minimum of screwing around and now that I have rooted and installed market and side loaded some apps, it's perfect for my needs.
This is from a guy who has bought or used most of the tablets that has come around recently including i pad. I bought one for wife initially and ended up getting one for myself.
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I'm a amazon prime member, so easy choice for me! also I enjoy the form factor of the kindle better than the nook (what in the world is that little hole for?)
Price and I have always wanted a kindle
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Mainly the build quality of the device it feels solid in hand as oppose to the flimsy feel of the nook tablet. I don't like the extra weight of having a case so the kindle fire is perfect and also the unlock bootloader.
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The interface, the entire experiance. I like that amazon is truely offering a different experiance and bundled it in all in a nice package. I mean, no offence to other manufactures, but I feel like amazon really brought something to the table that is truely unique. I mean look at the vast options of honeycomb tablets, or gingerbread tablets, their all pretty much the same, they may have some skins on top, but underneath their all just the same old interface, don't get me wrong, I love android, but what amazon has done is organize everything that I do into a neat package. I can click on a section for the launcher and I am presented with specific content, I love that if I want to catch up on some shows, I can click the videos tab, or play a game click on my apps tab, and from there I can quickly access the app store, it all just makes sense to me.
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I have about 300 dollars worth of Kindle books. Simple as that, really.
Before the Nook Tablet announcement I pre-ordered the Kindle:
-Price (I even bought the cover with a $20 credit)
-All my Kindle books available out of the box, without waiting for a root or hack
-Easier to buy from Amazon, free two-day shipping as a Prime
Best buy gave me a 50$ dollar gift card by accident.
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pitnefor, in which way?
guys when i went to bestbuy, netflix was laggy. it seems to be that way on the reviews i've watched too. plus, they've achieved full root with the nook. the bootloader point still stands though...what about the gig of ram, and one piece screen?
i agree daggy. but it stuttered when i tried to play with it.
and to everybody who talks about cost, if that wasn't an issue would you still stay with your kindle?
plus, it has one button. what recovery will you use? one where you press that button a certain amount of seconds to scroll up, down, etc. ? thanks
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i agree daggy. but it stuttered when i tried to play with it.
and to everybody who talks about cost, if that wasn't an issue would you still stay with your kindle?
plus, it has one button. what recovery will you use? one where you press that button a certain amount of seconds to scroll up, down, etc. ? thanks
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They have a touchscreen recovery in the works apparently.
Also I would never trust any test that uses internet in bestbuy. I worked there for a year and it was the worst. They didnt even have a separate network for the display equipment, so if people kept going on sites, it would crash up the sales machines and you couldn't punch in/out.
Horrors.
We had to use a verizon mifi to get any real work done.
rockstarar said:
i agree daggy. but it stuttered when i tried to play with it.
and to everybody who talks about cost, if that wasn't an issue would you still stay with your kindle?
plus, it has one button. what recovery will you use? one where you press that button a certain amount of seconds to scroll up, down, etc. ? thanks
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You commented about stuttering in 2 of your 3 consecutive posts.
I believe this thread is the "why you picked the Kindle over the Nook Tablet", not the "why I like to bash Kindle thread".
I will say that I have no issues playing video on my Kindle Fire. Netflix, Prime, or the conversions to MP4 I've loaded onto my device.
sodaboy581 said:
You commented about stuttering in 2 of your 3 consecutive posts.
I believe this thread is the "why you picked the Kindle over the Nook Tablet", not the "why I like to bash Kindle thread".
I will say that I have no issues playing video on my Kindle Fire. Netflix, Prime, or the conversions to MP4 I've loaded onto my device.
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yes, i know what the thread says, i created it. yes, i did comment about it because i noticed it but thelgow is right (thanks thelgow). thanks for your input too soda.
but again, if the NT and KF cost the same, which would you all buy then, and why?
i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
Thelgow said:
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.
I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.
I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.
thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad
it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.
I am giving Kindle Fires to family members (children).
Is it possible to set up "sub-accounts" under my Amazon and Android Market accounts, so that those sub-accounts cannot buy any additional apps or content but so that I can push my purchases to these accounts/devices?
Admittedly, I am also asking because it would be nice to not have to re-purchase some apps, which work perfectly on my Kindle Fire and my phone (but I would need to set up the other Kindle Fires with my amazon and gmail accounts to achieve the same for the kids).
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I am giving Kindle Fires to family members (children).
Is it possible to set up "sub-accounts" under my Amazon and Android Market accounts, so that those sub-accounts cannot buy any additional apps or content but so that I can push my purchases to these accounts/devices?
Admittedly, I am also asking because it would be nice to not have to re-purchase some apps, which work perfectly on my Kindle Fire and my phone (but I would need to set up the other Kindle Fires with my amazon and gmail accounts to achieve the same for the kids).
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Nobody else interested in this?
There are a lot of similar questions on the Kindle Forums, but I thought that xda might have found a solution ...
I have never heard of anything like this being possible.
I think something like this would be a good idea. However, I am sure Amazon and Google don't want to make it easier for people to "share" and not re-purchase stuff. I do think it would make a lot of sense for Amazon to have a limited "kids account" under a parents account so that parents could buy a Kindle for their kids without said kids having the ability to make purchases.
Maybe you should contact Amazon and Google and make this suggestion!
I couldn't agree more, starting tomorrow I will have 3 kids plus mine, all I have is I will know as soon as you do something wrong because I will get an email...
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A tablet of this size and style has a very specific space in the pantheon of tablets, and I don’t believe the Amazon app store and Fire UI are robust enough to support the tools users may want from a tablet at this price.
shamina said:
A tablet of this size and style has a very specific space in the pantheon of tablets, and I don’t believe the Amazon app store and Fire UI are robust enough to support the tools users may want from a tablet at this price.
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I paid $129 for my Kindle Fire HD during the black Friday sale in November.
It's an amazing tablet, saddled with an appalling front end. I've installed ADW on mine which alleviates it a bit... I rooted mine, but then had to factory reset it which apparently renders it unable to be rooted again. So until that issue is fixed by minds far smarter than mine I'm stuck unrooted and Google'less which given the stuff I have on the Play Store is a fairly major headache. I mean I'd happily buy some of the apps AGAIN for use on the Kindle, but they're not available.
But anyway, yes, the Kindle Fire HD is akin to taking a nice little fancy-ish sportscar, and plopping a clapped out 1974 Ford Escort engine in it.
Hi,
Any ways I can install a 3rd party fresh ROM on my Kindle Fire HD 8 2017 edition? I am sorry for any confusion but did not find anything myself here.
I would like to know this as well as I just purchased one and while I like Amazon FreeTime for my kids, the lack of a REAL YouTube app makes the tab useless IMO as I'm a YouTube Red account holder and need to be able to save video offline for my son to watch while on the road. Standard Android parental controls are the best as I get to pick and choose what apps a child can use.
enjoycool said:
Hi,
Any ways I can install a 3rd party fresh ROM on my Kindle Fire HD 8 2017 edition? I am sorry for any confusion but did not find anything myself here.
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(V)eGa said:
I would like to know this as well as I just purchased one and while I like Amazon FreeTime for my kids, the lack of a REAL YouTube app makes the tab useless IMO as I'm a YouTube Red account holder and need to be able to save video offline for my son to watch while on the road. Standard Android parental controls are the best as I get to pick and choose what apps a child can use.
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Currently there is no root for FireOS 5.3.2.1 or above. Without root, you can't install a custom ROM. When, or if root is found, it will be some time thereafter before a custom ROM might be available.
(V)eGa said:
I would like to know this as well as I just purchased one and while I like Amazon FreeTime for my kids, the lack of a REAL YouTube app makes the tab useless IMO as I'm a YouTube Red account holder and need to be able to save video offline for my son to watch while on the road. Standard Android parental controls are the best as I get to pick and choose what apps a child can use.
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If YouTube is your only intention, then follow this thread. This will let you install All Google things without any problem.
If you understand things properly, you can also install newer version of those from the sources. Working fine for me. My intention is not to register my tab with Amazon but to lock apps so that my kids to not go anywhere wrong.
I just brought my Fire HD 10 2017 (12/15/17). I have it looking/ running almost like stock android. I have the play store, a few Google apps, an app draw & no adds on my lock screen. All without root. Iam still, however, fighting with getting live wallpaper to work & the lock screen wall paper changed.
Ahhhhh man I got so excited when I saw this thread then what a major let down. Any progress on root for the 7th gen. HD 8? I know you guys figured it out for the 10", but I 'm stuck with an 8" I got for Christmas so I went out and bought a SM-T580 10.1" Samsung Galaxy Tab A so I can have fun with root, custom ROMs, etc etc. I hope somebody can tell me some good news on the progress of rooting the 2017 7th gen. Kindle Fire HD 8. What about TWRP for it? No chance bc no root access I'd assume but I'm a noob, lolol. Cheers
Intelli69 said:
Ahhhhh man I got so excited when I saw this thread then what a major let down. Any progress on root for the 7th gen. HD 8? I know you guys figured it out for the 10", but I 'm stuck with an 8" I got for Christmas so I went out and bought a SM-T580 10.1" Samsung Galaxy Tab A so I can have fun with root, custom ROMs, etc etc. I hope somebody can tell me some good news on the progress of rooting the 2017 7th gen. Kindle Fire HD 8. What about TWRP for it? No chance bc no root access I'd assume but I'm a noob, lolol. Cheers
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Hi, this is currently the major thread looking for root. And, I'm really sad to say this, but the odds are very very high that there will not be TWRP available to this device, ever. Not because it's very hard to compile TWRP for MediaTek, but Amazon keeps their bootloaders locked down, forever. It will be impossible to install TWRP until we crack the bootloader, which is one of the hardest things in Android Exploiiting.