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Would the kf work in the uk

i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock

Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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krelvinaz said:
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.

I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.

Thelgow said:
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.

I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.

I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.

thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad

it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.

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it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.

[Q] Kindle Fire in Canada

Hey all, just wondering what the Fire experience is like in Canada? I just ordered one today, and having second thoughts after reading that Canadians aren't able to get through the registration phase on the device.
All I want is something that I can surf with, run apps/games that I install myself, and music/video streamed over wifi.
So, did I make a mistake, or what? I'm sure at some point soon there will be a custom Android ROM and everything will work then, but am concerned that the stock ROM won't be useful for me.
Thanks!

I have a kindle fire and I'm in Canada as well. I had no problems registering any US only kindle devices in Canada. I even got Prime to work, but I'm using a DNS re-routing service called Unblock US. You can install any apps that you like, however I couldn't install any apps from the amazon app store as it said that it was not available in my area. It must be because I didn't have a US credit card as my 1 purchase 1 click payment method. I installed Google's market and sideload everything that isn't there (facebook, twitter, etc). I'm using it to listen to Pandora and Netflix US in Toronto and I'm using Go Launcher EX. It's great! The kindle is a great device for Canadians, assuming that you're a bit technically savvy and you're willing to root the device. As Amazon released the source code for their port and ICS is also open source, it's only a matter of time until ICS is ported to Kindle Fire. You didn't make a mistake. I'm sure that you'll enjoy the device.

Thanks! I hadn't seen the Europe or Australia threads when I posted mine. Thanks for the confirmation though!

6.2 update suspicious

Earlier I posted about bypassing the 6.2 update and future updates from Amazon------->
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19850082&postcount=85
I wanted to see if there were settings to disable automatic updates on the kindle and checked the license agreement and terms of use and that's when I noticed it said :
"In order to keep amazon silk up to at, amazon may automatically update or upgrade the software at any time and without notice to you. Further, amazon may change, suspend, or discontinue Amazon silk or any part of Amazon silk without notice or liability."
There is more in the Disclaimer, in regards to silk. Read it.
This whole update thing seems really strange to me.
I'm still looking for an alternative e-reader besides the kindle app. it does in fact ask me to register with amazon, but only when I try to access external reading material(not purchased from amazon) in my carousel . I can pretty much access the apps and sites fine without amazon registration.
I want to know what this update actually does and it seems no one knows besides suspecting it's purpose is to unroot .At first, I just wanted to make sure I could negate amazon's updates if they decided to start a war to avoid having to perpetually customize my kindle but now, I wonder what they are to.
I found this article about Amazon being sneaky and I will definitely hold off on this update. Apparently, they are being very discreet about the personal information collected from kindle users and kindle sales.
You can read the article here:
http://www.computerworld.com/s/arti...n_Kindle_Fire_s_data_harvesting?taxonomyId=15
here's another w/ video commentary from google about silk
http://www.techi.com/2011/10/amazon-silk-is-just-another-invasion-of-privacy/

Well, in the meantime I am enjoying the heck out of my KF while all this hoopla goes down. I have modded it to my satisfaction and the update was just a minor inconvenience while it improved the function of the unit.
Since I do not use the silk browser, Dolphin instead, I wonder if the privacy issue applies to that browser too. I would think on Dolphin it is a matter of what DNS your network is using and thats that.

I don't like this, although I'm not surprised...
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Dont like silk? Turn it off, problem solved.
The update had nothing to do with root, otherwise people wouldn't have been able to reroot so easily.
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Amazon could care less about me being rooted, and if they did, they would probably would have done more than inconvenience me for the one minute it took to re-root. The nook tablets boot loader is locked because of some deal with Netflix streaming in HD on the nook tablet. Very doubtable that they would start caring now about a few people rooting their devices, seeing as how it doesn't really hurt their business.
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How to Operationalize Kindle Fire HDX

I was an ambitious rooter that thought that rooting was the only way to go, regardless of device. I had a change of heart and decided NOT to root my HDX. Obviously this presents many challenges, the lack of google's presence amoung the top. So my story is how I managed to install almost everything (except play store) and how now I can do just about everything I wanted without rooting.
The trick was to find apps that simulate or sync within the web and they trick the HDX into thinking it has a google account installed. This has allowed me to access gmail, google calendar, search, tasks and more. I even got wifi text messaging working, which is a big deal for me.
Finally, I found the perfect launcher that replaces the tedious Amazon interface. I'm not kidding. You wouldn't tell the difference between a rooted HDX and mine.
Open to questions...
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can you share with us what you did? I would like to try it on my 7" if it would work.

JAG50 said:
I was an ambitious rooter that thought that rooting was the only way to go, regardless of device. I had a change of heart and decided NOT to root my HDX. Obviously this presents many challenges, the lack of google's presence amoung the top. So my story is how I managed to install almost everything (except play store) and how now I can do just about everything I wanted without rooting.
The trick was to find apps that simulate or sync within the web and they trick the HDX into thinking it has a google account installed. This has allowed me to access gmail, google calendar, search, tasks and more. I even got wifi text messaging working, which is a big deal for me.
Finally, I found the perfect launcher that replaces the tedious Amazon interface. I'm not kidding. You wouldn't tell the difference between a rooted HDX and mine.
Open to questions...
Sent from my SM-G900P using XDA Premium HD app
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Yup - I ran native (unrooted) Fire OS 3.2.6 for nearly a year before moving to a different rom. It's quite possible (and often rather easy) to either sideload play store apps or find high quality equivalents that duplicate the best from google. Some I still use today even though I have full access to the play store. Toss in a few Xposed modules and life is pretty sweet. That said, there was always the challenge of dealing with new versions or accommodating the various limitations inherent with Fire OS. I think the story here is an unrooted HDX can be still be a useful/productive tool but the work effort definitely goes up once you step outside the Amazon ecosystem.

JAG50 said:
Finally, I found the perfect launcher that replaces the tedious Amazon interface. I'm not kidding. You wouldn't tell the difference between a rooted HDX and mine.
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Which launcher are you using? Inquiring minds want to know!

JAG50 said:
I was an ambitious rooter that thought that rooting was the only way to go, regardless of device. I had a change of heart and decided NOT to root my HDX. Obviously this presents many challenges, the lack of google's presence amoung the top. So my story is how I managed to install almost everything (except play store) and how now I can do just about everything I wanted without rooting.
The trick was to find apps that simulate or sync within the web and they trick the HDX into thinking it has a google account installed. This has allowed me to access gmail, google calendar, search, tasks and more. I even got wifi text messaging working, which is a big deal for me.
Finally, I found the perfect launcher that replaces the tedious Amazon interface. I'm not kidding. You wouldn't tell the difference between a rooted HDX and mine.
Open to questions...
Sent from my SM-G900P using XDA Premium HD app
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Is there an "How To Do It" tutorial

Fire HD (2020) - App Pinning / Guided Access?

Has anyone tried any of the new 2020 Fire tablets to see if they have finally implemented app pinning (guided access in IOS parlance).
We've had Fire tablets in the past and they are completely useless for children, despite selling Kids versions, as they can easily switch from whatever app they are using to something random.

Just a quick bump. Someone must own one of the new Fire tablets to check this?

The HD 8 Plus does have App Pinning as an option. I would assume that means the 2020 HD 8 has it, as well.

Thanks JT, I discovered the answer by buying one.
The problem isn't as bad as I expected as they've hid the square app launcher instead.

Am a little confused by your comments above. I can only assume when you tried the kindles before that you didnt have the Kids mode enabled? Both of my Niece and Nephew have Older Kindle FIre devices (admittedly kids editions) and i always thought they seemed to be locked down well.
When in the childs profile they can only access the apps and stuff allocated to them. And all of the content is curated by Amazon to be age appropriate and no costs/in game charges if using the kids fire subscription (free for first 2 years then Amazon Kids + is £1.99/Month if you are a Prime Subscriber).
Having the kids tablets on this has meant that we can be confident they aren't doing anything they shouldn't and are protected from the worst the Amazon and Google stores have to offer.