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i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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krelvinaz said:
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
Thelgow said:
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.
I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.
I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.
thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad
it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.
All,
I am from India and seriously considering buying KF.
Only issue is that I am doubtful as to how much of the device's capability would I be able to utilize being outside US.
Also, Would I be able to purchase apps through KF?
What about books and magazines?
Would love to hear from people outside US who have bought KF.
Thanks!
You should adjust your title to ask about whether you should buy it as you live outside the US.
Your thread is right next to another thread with the EXACT same title and about something completely different.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion. Edited the title. Hoping to get a better response this time
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Using a Kindle outside of the US is not a problem if you are happy to do a little work.
It is possible to buy apps and watch moves via Amazon prime using a vpn.
It is also relatively easy to side load apps from other sources by literally searching for the apk file and then download and install them directly to the Kindle.
Again it is not too difficult to root the device and install a different launcher and the full Android Market, you will lose the ability to stream from Amazon prime but to be honest you won’t be losing much.
Ive gone through all the above and am now running the CM7 Rom which again completely changes the device to a fully unlocked working Android tablet which is not pad for 200 dollars.
The only downside I have found is nothing to do with geological location, for me a tablet this size is just too small.
duquesa said:
Using a Kindle outside of the US is not a problem if you are happy to do a little work.
It is possible to buy apps and watch moves via Amazon prime using a vpn.
It is also relatively easy to side load apps from other sources by literally searching for the apk file and then download and install them directly to the Kindle.
Again it is not too difficult to root the device and install a different launcher and the full Android Market, you will lose the ability to stream from Amazon prime but to be honest you won’t be losing much.
Ive gone through all the above and am now running the CM7 Rom which again completely changes the device to a fully unlocked working Android tablet which is not pad for 200 dollars.
The only downside I have found is nothing to do with geological location, for me a tablet this size is just too small.
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What he said. It's still a great device to use outside the U.S. If you don't plan on messing with it (rooting, installing another launcher or CM7/9) and want to keep it on stock like its meant to be used, then don't buy it.
i'm using kindle fire on europe (portugal), and with the stock rom.
I can watch movies on prime, listen to music, buy books, install apps (free on amazon store and sideloaded the other ones).
So i will keep stock room, cause i can do everything.
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i'm using kindle fire on europe (portugal), and with the stock rom.
I can watch movies on prime, listen to music, buy books, install apps (free on amazon store and sideloaded the other ones).
So i will keep stock room, cause i can do everything.
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Same here from germany, it works fine!
well am also in India and just ordered mine. will get it in 10 days. I already have amazon account with fake US address and some 200 apps collected by me. Also I plan to root it and use some other launcher and maybe install cm7 too. I have no intention of watching videos on Amazon prime and only want to use to read a few ebooks, play games and movie which I can load on the storage. At the price and for the quality it serves this purpose great in my opinion. Depending on your needs this might vary.
you can do that with the stock room.
i mean, install apps (the free ones at amazon app store) or install from unknown sources. or sideload them.
kindle fire outside us
I am living in germany. Yes, small money for a great tablet once its rooted and you side loaded whatever you are interested it. Without routing it, its a crippled and restricted amazon content using device only.
But rooting it its really easy, if you are able to read and understand a little bit.
I now can watch movies, listen music, read colored ebooks or any pdf file and play games like nova2 or other stuff. the tablet runs smooth and imho its the best bang for the buck available on the market.
I am not interested in amazon content a lot, but i can buy books or videos there if i really want to or use the amazon services while being temporarily "unrooted".
I didnt made it possible to view streamed videos and using the cloud, but to be honest, i dont like the idea to put personal data on a public server or show people what i like to read and view, i am happy to be private. I am using my pc as a streaming server or just download some videos into the storage every now and then. Its good enough for 5-6 videos plus a ****load of books and music.
But look around.. there is so much other content availabe on the internet, you will not get bored in 10 years, so who really needs amazon?
I really prefer to sideload anything via wifi or usb cable which works great and isnt that difficult. I have a lot of fun and for sure I saved a lot of money not buying an expensive high end tablet.
The kindle fire just dont have gps, vibrator, camera, microfon and bluetooth. If you really want that dont buy the kindle fire.
I personally have a small mobile phone just for that so i dont need to use a tablet as a phone and i also have a highend digital camera so wtf why i need a camera on my tablet ? (google for wifi tethering, works great). They are not good anyway even on the most expensive tablets on the market compared to a real one.
But i am pretty sure someone will find a solution for that somehow.
I have it and I love it. I live in Bosnia and have no problems with it. Great little thing for a good price.
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I am living in germany. Yes, small money for a great tablet once its rooted and you side loaded whatever you are interested it. Without routing it, its a crippled and restricted amazon content using device only.
But rooting it its really easy, if you are able to read and understand a little bit.
I now can watch movies, listen music, read colored ebooks or any pdf file and play games like nova2 or other stuff. the tablet runs smooth and imho its the best bang for the buck available on the market.
I am not interested in amazon content a lot, but i can buy books or videos there if i really want to or use the amazon services while being temporarily "unrooted".
I didnt made it possible to view streamed videos and using the cloud, but to be honest, i dont like the idea to put personal data on a public server or show people what i like to read and view, i am happy to be private. I am using my pc as a streaming server or just download some videos into the storage every now and then. Its good enough for 5-6 videos plus a ****load of books and music.
But look around.. there is so much other content availabe on the internet, you will not get bored in 10 years, so who really needs amazon?
I really prefer to sideload anything via wifi or usb cable which works great and isnt that difficult. I have a lot of fun and for sure I saved a lot of money not buying an expensive high end tablet.
The kindle fire just dont have gps, vibrator, camera, microfon and bluetooth. If you really want that dont buy the kindle fire.
I personally have a small mobile phone just for that so i dont need to use a tablet as a phone and i also have a highend digital camera so wtf why i need a camera on my tablet ? (google for wifi tethering, works great). They are not good anyway even on the most expensive tablets on the market compared to a real one.
But i am pretty sure someone will find a solution for that somehow.
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But it isnt possible sideload without root?
I cant still play all the movies, music, etc i want with a unrooted kindle fire. And i really enjoy the curated amazon app store. If i need any other app i just download it on fire and install. or sideload.
So if i just want to play movies, listen music, read books watch docs, why i need to root my kindle?
@therethere. You do not need root to sideload. I upload my apks to dropbox and then download to Kindle. The only reason I might decide to root is to change lockscreen and perhaps use a different launcher.
I'd really love a thread in this forum with everything you need to know to run your Kindle Fire outside US without rooting
LilaLurch said:
Same here from germany, it works fine!
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How that? I can't get it to work. Is there a chance to do it without rooting?
I'd prefer to sideload what I need, but it doesn't work.
Any tips?
Thanx in Advnce..
Dirk
dmenker said:
How that? I can't get it to work. Is there a chance to do it without rooting?
I'd prefer to sideload what I need, but it doesn't work.
Any tips?
Thanx in Advnce..
Dirk
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If you cant follow the tipps here in this forum, try with watching this videos from here: http://www.kindlefirewire.com/2011/11/16/how-to-root-kindle-fire-video-tutorial/
Not necessary to root.
Use a usb cable to sideload android apps. Most apps work.
Usa account and credit card(sample) for free Amazon apps.
Vpn for streaming.
Go launcher makes Fire a "real"Android.
I couldn't be happier with mine. In barely a month since release, it's now overclockable, CM7 running near perfectly, and a touch recovery coming tonight.
Since I got mine at release, my grandparents are buying three as gifts, my Dad might get one and I'm getting one for my Mom for Christmas.
Kindle Fire is easily one of the best value tablets out there. It's freakin awesome.
it shouldn't matter if your in India or anywhere. get one.
Chiwaz said:
I'd really love a thread in this forum with everything you need to know to run your Kindle Fire outside US without rooting
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There aren't really a lot of steps:
-Just enable install from unknown sources in the Kindle settings
-Install a file manager from the browser: search for and download the .apk of any known android file manager
-Copy the desired apps via USB
-Install via file manager
What you can do with the Kindle outside the USA without rooting is:
-Browse the web
-Buy and read Kindle books
-Copy via USB and read documents (.DOC and PDF)
-Everything else that allows the apps installed by yourself
I just love my kindle(/s), even I'm not able to use unblock-us properly to see Prime videos.
I don't care about gps, camera or 3g (even with it, I'd never make another contract, tethering is enough for me). All things I already have on the phone.
I just miss bluetooth, because I'd like to use a keyboard with this device and that's the only way to plug one, so far.
- Reading pdf (for simple books I usually use the other kindle);
- Newspapers;
- RSS, web browsing;
- Listen some music, radio or watching some TVs when I'm cooking, shaving or taking a shower;
- And yes, play some games sometimes (Tetris is freaking me out );
All stuff I was already able to do with the phone, but way more enjoyable on a tablet, without concern about battery life, on a big and beautiful screen, and better speakers.
And finally, I love the fact I don't need to carry it in a bag or a nerdy cover. Just my freaking pocket.
I have installed CM7 and it is working great, however the Amazon App Store no longer recognizes that it is an Amazon Fire. I would like to download the Kindle version of a few games, is there a way to trick the app store to think it is the Fire again? I assume CM7 just thinks it is a generic gingerbread phone.
Thanks for any help.
You should wait for ICS. I say that only because the main dev focus right now is getting ICS (CM9) working correctly. After this is done there would be ways in tricking the App store into thinking it's a specific device. Though that would most likely break some of the apps from being downloaded from the Android App store. Guess it's a bit of Catch 22.
Once we have a fully working version on ICS, I plan on working to make this happen. However I just don't have the time right now with school and family to work on the OS development. Shame as I think it would be fun.
~enjoy for now.
Hi guys,
This issue has undoubtedly been asked before but can anyone confirm a 100% successful rooting of the kindle fire from outside the states (and how did u do it/guide please)?
Preliminary searching on google for rooting the fire seems to suggest its plagued with difficulty issues/bricking etc if yer outside US Soil. I won my kindle fire and so far my wife has been using it simply as an ereader, but we can't access any of the services or download and install a single app (due to not having a credit card with a USA Address). I'm guessing this is why non usa ppl are having issues, is their an app we need to install on the device to successfully root it? It's a pretty useless tablet at the moment for us, but when I do get to steal it away from my wife (for half an hour) i want to hand it back rooted, with android market (google play?) so we can turn this thing into a more useful device.
I absolutely cannot hand it back to her bricked lol.
So please, if yer from the states this questions is unlikely for you as its doubtful u have encountered the issues us international users have.
Like i said above I can't really find in google any 'international' root guide, the videos/instructions are clearly from a 'within USA' procedure and then when you look at the comments plenty of people are getting stuck at 'part x' with no sign of help or assistance.
FYI i reside in Australia.
if you root it that has nothing to do with your location
for rooting refer to this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=23589931#post23589931
btw. im not in the us also
cheers for that, will look into it. Just wanted to make sure. How come typing in google such things as 'kindle fire root international" or "worldwide" etc doesn't show this thread :S
would think because rooting has noting to do with international or worldwide
btw. every information i ever needed is here at xda - most articles out there refer to here - if there are some interesting articles outside they are usually linked here also - and the search function of xda is great !
Just follow the instruction at the following thread to root KF any where:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=20668030
After rooting, you can install Google apps and download applications from any where.
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thanx guys xD
I'll let u know how i go.
My first hurdle is installing usb adb driver, i'm not on win 7, im on xp pro 32bit, any suggestions?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=22342376&postcount=6
ALL Kindle Fires has exactly same ROM, so your region not influenced anyway
My good friend roh rooted it for me this afternoon. xD
Hello
I just have bought this device which looked great over the internet
But after using it, my old Asus transformer is way better
Is there a way to root this new os is or to use chromecast or to make it just as useful as any other tablet
Sorry to tell you not rootable
mrewen said:
Hello
I just have bought this device which looked great over the internet
But after using it, my old Asus transformer is way better
Is there a way to root this new os is or to use chromecast or to make it just as useful as any other tablet
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Fire os 4.x is not rootable, while 3.x is. BTW, bootloader of this device is locked, and the unblock method has been discovered but won't be released for legal issues.
You can contact Amazon to rollback to 3.x to get rooted.
I wonder if we have any chance to get root on new 4.5.2 without roll back?
The waiting game
veaceslav said:
I wonder if we have any chance to get root on new 4.5.2 without roll back?
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Its going to be a waiting game buddy...my kindle is sat in a drawer with my older tablets,pads and phones doing nothing but gathering dust till a forum notification pops up saying "look what I have done" and we all bow down before him/her.......seems like I wasted money on this ****ty thing though and an option of rollback os would be nice. :crying:
Why did you buy it in the first place? The only reason for purchasing a Kindle is to take advantage of Amazon Prime content. That stuff is not available on any other tablet. Amazon Instant Video, alone, makes the Kindle a great tablet if (again) you are a member of Amazon Prime. If not, the Nexus is a far superior tablet.
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Did you try the built-in screen cast? Works perfectly with my Roku.
Hear ye Hear ye
Thanks to the poster above, totally agree on the Prime.
The only thing that irks me on the Kindle is Amazons much smaller app and often out dated selection compared to google / other stores.
I got boned into the 4.5.2 update, can you confirm this cannot be rolled back by Amazon Support.
I started with 4.2.0 on this Saturn so I think I was boned to begin with.
Strapples said:
Thanks to the poster above, totally agree on the Prime.
The only thing that irks me on the Kindle is Amazons much smaller app and often out dated selection compared to google / other stores.
I got boned into the 4.5.2 update, can you confirm this cannot be rolled back by Amazon Support.
I started with 4.2.0 on this Saturn so I think I was boned to begin with.
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Many (if not most) GPlay apps work fine on the Kindle with sideloading. As far as I know Amazon will not roll back updates. Suppose they would. Do you really want to go from Kit-Kat back back to (I'm not certain) Ice-Cream-Sandwich (possibly with some leftover Gingerbread)?
I would like to root this device. The reason is that I want to use the Google Now launcher. It actually works fine now except that it cannot be set as a permanent default. I also want to install BubbleUPnP. Bubble works but the paid license requires GPlay. However, there is no way in hell that I would roll back my O/S to do so.
Doesn't look like there's many custom roms for this device. Black Friday 4g £119 couldn't resist the spec
May be a long wait for the next exploit.
Just out of curiosity, can anyone point me in the direction of a good tutorial on using another ROM slot?
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Why did you buy it in the first place? The only reason for purchasing a Kindle is to take advantage of Amazon Prime content. That stuff is not available on any other tablet. Amazon Instant Video, alone, makes the Kindle a great tablet if (again) you are a member of Amazon Prime. If not, the Nexus is a far superior tablet.
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Did you try the built-in screen cast? Works perfectly with my Roku.
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Well I bought it for its superior specs and cheap price I didnt know that itd thst limited also I thought it was rootable :/
Regarding roku, you know misery loves company, I bought google chromecast with my kindle so I am suffering to get it working
Thanks for your reply
Why did you buy it in the first place? The only reason for purchasing a Kindle is to take advantage of Amazon Prime content. That stuff is not available on any other tablet.
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I have to disagree with that statement. I subscribe to Amazon Prime and I can watch my vids on anything with a browser just so long as I'm within the UK.
alib_15 said:
I have to disagree with that statement. I subscribe to Amazon Prime and I can watch my vids on anything with a browser just so long as I'm within the UK.
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That works im the rest of Europe too, at least in germany... And no, amazon prime is not the only reason to buy a quadcore fullhd 7" tablet for around 130 euros... My NAS has much better content than amazon prime Video.. So i use kodi to watch movies, not the Browser...
The Hardware is great, after really bypassing the bootloader issue, i am sure lollipop is just around the corner and we will get a real good device with recent and usable OS...
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Well, at least I won my tablet, would definitely go for nexus, if I had choice.
I'm not a gamer, but still miss some pure Android features...
@openWeb74 - I can't view my Amazon Prime video in the Republic of Ireland which is a bit odd considering Amazon has various offices & distribution centres here. I've tried changing my location .. probably some bureaucracy or tax issue
Suppose I could try a proxy or vpn. Any suggestions?
Play Store, sideloading
Hi guys,
Has anyone had luck with side loading gaps on 4.5.2 on 3 gen fire HDX 7?
I have tried to install basicly all versions of Playstore, play services and google framework but store still not working
PS: i am able to add google account and gmail works, but play store won't connect
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Hi guys,
Has anyone had luck with side loading gaps on 4.5.2 on 3 gen fire HDX 7?
I have tried to install basicly all versions of Playstore, play services and google framework but store still not working
PS: i am able to add google account and gmail works, but play store won't connect
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Unfortunately the play store will not work without root. You can however pull some play store apps off a device that has a working version of google play and side load them onto the kindle hdx. I have been testing this recently and a good number of my apps work but unfortunately some do not.
Your card,residential address and location (determined via IP address) will be the factor for availability or unavailability of videos.
Every site of Amazon has geographical restriction, be it .UK .COM or .De
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alib_15 said:
@openWeb74 - I can't view my Amazon Prime video in the Republic of Ireland which is a bit odd considering Amazon has various offices & distribution centres here. I've tried changing my location .. probably some bureaucracy or tax issue
Suppose I could try a proxy or vpn. Any suggestions?
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Does having fulfilment centers and / or offices determine the content availability ?
Well they are for physical items not digital content and if you ate a member of this forum then you can understand the digital age access, licensing, encryption and tracking mechanisms as well
VPN can help you.
awinston said:
Unfortunately the play store will not work without root. You can however pull some play store apps off a device that has a working version of google play and side load them onto the kindle hdx. I have been testing this recently and a good number of my apps work but unfortunately some do not.
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That is what i was afraid of: no root - no store...
Sideloading from other device works well on other hand so not that big problem - not that comfortable but works
Thanks for clarifying it for me!
PS: In case someone needs some guidance with whole produre of sideloading and list of GApps working without root i found great post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58475282&postcount=72
someone with 4.5.2 on hdx 8.9 can post the file produced by
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.4.5.2.log?
thankou
dpeddi said:
someone with 4.5.2 on hdx 8.9 can post the file produced by
adb shell dmesg > dmesg.4.5.2.log?
thankou
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I would, but I have the 7" running 4.5.3.
Could someone help me understand some of the Kindle lingo? When folk refer to Thor and Apollo are they referring to the bootloader firmware?
alib_15 said:
I would, but I have the 7" running 4.5.3.
Could someone help me understand some of the Kindle lingo? When folk refer to Thor and Apollo are they referring to the bootloader firmware?
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That refers to the model.
7" is Thor
8.9" is Apollo
New 8.9" is Saturn