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Would the kf work in the uk

i want to order a kindle fire but i am not sure if it will work here in the uk as it is not for me but for a family member the person would just use the device as stock

Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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krelvinaz said:
Stock right now,the KF would not be a good choice for use in the UK. They would have a hard time accessing any media. Amazon app store and the Amazon cloud would not work.
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Right, in the UK you'd be unable to access the media stores. Too much conflict in copyright stuff between here and there.

I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.

Thelgow said:
I believe I heard the Kindle would burst into flames once it crossed US borders...
I'm quite sure the Kindle would work perfectly fine elsewhere.
I've been having a blast with it for over a week and haven't touched a single amazon based feature, which I believe would be the only place you'd have issues.
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Yeah, if you had media to fill it yourself and could use your cloud account for music in the UK (don't see why you couldn't) then yeah that would work. But a lot are likely buying it due to them already buying into Amazon services. If his friend was going to hack it, that's be one thing, but stock currently I'm not sure it's the best choice outside the US as none of the Amazon features work.
Don't get me wrong, I'm sure you could find uses for it, I just think that your tablet would be a bit more crippled stock without Amazon services than other possible choices, at least currently. So I'll say it honestly depends on what your friend would get out of it.

I'm using one here in Brazil, so I guess you would have the same experience I have.
All Amazon stuff are useless, except Kindle for books (the same Android app you install in any device). You even can't install other Apps because Amazon App Store blocks everything outside US (even free apps).
The only useful thing you can do to a Fire outside the US is to install third-party apps and root your device to make it like any other Android device. And I loved it for that: a cheap Android tablet, open, unblocked, and easy to hack. Everything I wanted.
The reality is that you'll be buying an Android tablet, not a Kindle as it is in America.

I got the amazon apps to work outside the us using us address and test card.I have rooted and installed aneroid market aswell.Just waiting for touch recovery and then the fun will start.

thanks for the info i will just buy the normal transformer or a ipad

it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.

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it is possibile to have Kindle Fire working fully outside US using for example unblock-us.
With fully i mean, cloud, streaming content (audio, video, books, etc), amazon app store, etc.
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Yes, i can confirm. Using unblock-us is the solution, i use it in Germany and it works fine.

Considering the Kindle

Hey everyone,
So I'm taking online classes for web design and new media, and it deals a lot with online reading, video watching and I have to do my assignments on my Macbook pro.
I was thinking of getting a tablet that will allow me to read my text books easier and watch my instructor videos while I work on my laptop. I know it only has 8GB's of storage, but I would only load in one week's worth of video at at time that can equal up to about 100+MB total (or use my Mac as a media server and just stream it).
I don't think a 10" tablet is the way to go for me, because I want something a bit more portable and obviously low cost with a quality build. So I came across the Fire and did my research, I feel like I'm sold on it and I come here to get your opinions on it too.
I've had an iPad before, it's cool, heavy and large.
How's the email experience?
Does the browser support flash and how is the browsing experience?
Can I download the Dolphin Browser on this? Or is the default browser better then Dolphin?
I appreciate your thoughts and opinions.

From what you describe, the Fire should be a good fit for your requirements. It supports flash, the native email app is adequate,
And it will run Dolphin browser.
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The dolphin browser doesn't show up on the stock market. I bought the Kindle because I can mess around with flashing custom ROMs. If that's not your thing I'd suggest looking at the Blackberry Playbook. More storage and better stock experience I believe. There is supposed to be an update this month to add an email client. Not sure if there's a different one in their market.

Well I got the KF not too long ago (maybe 2 weeks) but I think its a solid device. Email is fine on it, but i'm sure if you don't like it, you could side load others. The device has flash in the browser and you can side load just about any browser as long as you have the APK. The default is okay. I prefer either dolphin or opera though.
Well the devices specs say it has 8GBs but you will only be about to use about 5. It sets different storage for different things. 1gb for applications 5gbs for sd storage. You can put your media on the amazon cloud though and stream it.
You could go for the New Nook. I believe it has 16 Gigs internal with an SD card slot. as well as a gig of RAM. I'm not too sure on its stock performance, but there's a forum for it on this site, so i'm sure it can be rooted.
In my personal experiences with the KF, I have had no problem with it and I really love the screen. The glare can be a downside, but if you plan on using services from amazon go ahead and get it. If not, you could always root+recov and run cm7.

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Well I got the KF not too long ago (maybe 2 weeks) but I think its a solid device. Email is fine on it, but i'm sure if you don't like it, you could side load others. The device has flash in the browser and you can side load just about any browser as long as you have the APK. The default is okay. I prefer either dolphin or opera though.
Well the devices specs say it has 8GBs but you will only be about to use about 5. It sets different storage for different things. 1gb for applications 5gbs for sd storage. You can put your media on the amazon cloud though and stream it.
You could go for the New Nook. I believe it has 16 Gigs internal with an SD card slot. as well as a gig of RAM. I'm not too sure on its stock performance, but there's a forum for it on this site, so i'm sure it can be rooted.
In my personal experiences with the KF, I have had no problem with it and I really love the screen. The glare can be a downside, but if you plan on using services from amazon go ahead and get it. If not, you could always root+recov and run cm7.
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Thank you all for your comments! And yes, I do have an amazon credit account and regular account, so that's definitely something to add to the pro's. I was thinking of flashing it, but for my purposes, I think the stock OS will do just fine. How much cloud storage do you get? I already have the 5Gig free, but do I get any additional storage with it?

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I already have the 5Gig free, but do I get any additional storage with it?
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I believe all amazon related data (like books or amazon mp3) is unlimited. But anything else is capped at 5gigs. Not 100% sure though

dovazaan said:
I believe all amazon related data (like books or amazon mp3) is unlimited. But anything else is capped at 5gigs. Not 100% sure though
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it only stores amazon stuff and its a dollar a gig beyond 5

What the Amazon app store doesn't have I get at 1Mobile Market and getjar. 1Mobile seems to get the updates more regulary then getJar though. They have Dolphin HD which works better then stock IMO, along with drop box, and box. Which is 5gb free each with those. Box had a free 50gb promo awhile back which i was able to get in on. Not sure if they are still doing it though. I run stock and they all loaded easily through the 1Mobile app. I also got the facebook and twitter apps from there as well and have no complaints so far.
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There's a low-key special going on right now at Walmart - buy a Kindle Fire for $199 and get a $50 Walmart card. So, in effect, you're paying $149 for the Fire. I don't how much longer it's going on, but that's a great deal.
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I would get the kindle fire

The fire is a great pick and any app can be loaded from a Pc transfer if you choose not to root.
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What do you think of the Seagate Wireless HD device? They have a 500GB unit with a wireless radio that should allow you to stream or access your files from the kindle fire.

What would make you get one?

Hi everyone
I haven't posted / lurked the firums here since back when I baught my original nexus one phone.
Shortly after that the iPhone 4 and eventually the 4s came out and I have found it hard to go back to android ( I liked the simplicity of iOS)
Lately i am getting over the struggle between Apple and the hackers that allow customers do do what they want with their device. ( I always have my iPhone hacked just so I can run the tweaks apple don't provide)
The apple tv pairs quite nicely with my iPhone and I have also hacked that to run plex so I can stream from my pc.
Development for plex on apple tv is slow and usually buggy due to apples restrictions and every update means developers need to wait for a jailbreak before they can continue development..
Which brings me to the point of this post. The nexus q just might be what I need to come back to android.
These are what would convince me to come back
1. Streaming from pc not just from google play ( I believe it's already being worked on / almost done )
2. Plex / other apps like airtight working ( I believe they should eventually)
3. This would be the icing on the cake. Being able to start a movie / tv show that is on my pc over 3G. Eg. Tge girlfriend is at home and wants to watch a movie but is not too tech savvy so I load plex or a similar app on my phone while I'm at work and select a movie from my library that is on my pc at home and it starts playing on the nexus q!
Should these become a reality I would buy a galaxy s3 and a nexus q right away.
What other things would MAKE you buy a nexus q?

Well only two reasons prevent me from buying one.
Nexus Q is not available in Europe
No Music/Movie/TV Shows in the german Play store
So without the ability to stream whatever I want without the Play Store, it is quite useless at the moment. As soon as stable Custom Roms allow me to stream over WiFi and/or run XBMC I'll import one.
I like the Design, the basic Idea and well, Android. I just don't get why Google kind of messed this up by leaving it up to the Community to make this Ball of any use.

I am hoping the awesome devs have this thing cracked wide open with opportunity soon.
As for the leaving it to the community i kind of like the idea. Its like Google saying we trust the community and don't want to influence them one way or another so they gave them pretty much an empty slate to work with.

You can do music. vpn into music.google then it activates.

I just wish this thing wasn't $299.
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You can do music. vpn into music.google then it activates.
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I have activated music, however I can't order anything since checkout does not let me buy stuff with my credit card. Besides that I'd have to use a proxy 24/7 which slows down everything. That is not the kind of "experience" google wants to deliver and I don't want to have it either.
It is time that Google goes global with those things, can't be that hard...

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I have activated music, however I can't order anything since checkout does not let me buy stuff with my credit card. Besides that I'd have to use a proxy 24/7 which slows down everything. That is not the kind of "experience" google wants to deliver and I don't want to have it either.
It is time that Google goes global with those things, can't be that hard...
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My guess is the problem lies with the content deals being restricted by geographic region. Blame the content owners.
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I say a realistic price would spur my purchase. $99.

Frankly, with my PC connected to my TVs and audio receiver already, and my phone, tablets, etc already able to connect to my PC and/or TV, I just don't see an advantage to this device.

I'm sure the new nexus q will have some awesome features, I'm not sure about the ones you need but the wonderful thing about android is I'm sure one of our great developers will make that all possible. I have the q and I like it, I'm definitely going to need some more features to really love it but what I have now is great... Especially because it's free.
The new one will most likely be cheaper and have more features I think that it will be better than the Apple tv.
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Frankly, with my PC connected to my TVs and audio receiver already, and my phone, tablets, etc already able to connect to my PC and/or TV, I just don't see an advantage to this device.
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Agreed
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Samsung Phones
If you own Samsung devices, just get allshare.

I have a ps3 and I can stream content to it via Wi-Fi from my PC or my nexus 7.... really no reason for a Q. If I were to get it, it would be because it looks cool.
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Logomotph said:
I have a ps3 and I can stream content to it via Wi-Fi from my PC or my nexus 7.... really no reason for a Q. If I were to get it, it would be because it looks cool.
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+1 I was pretty excited about the Q when I first saw it. I liked the design, the size of it etc but the reviews had me thinking I was better off with my PS3 set up.

hey
has anyone hacked one of these to do other things

Someone needs to buy/donate one of these for a capable dev for Christmas.

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Of course. The thing that I did immediately was get SqueezePlayer running on it. This allows the Q to play local music over the network in just about any format (e.g. mp3, 24-bit flac, etc.). Control is handled by an app on your phone/tablet like Orange Squeeze, Squeeze Commander, Logitech Squeezebox Controller, or by pointing your browser to the Logitech Media Server's web interface. Oh, by the way, this also works with Squeezebox apps (e.g. Spotify, Pandora, Rhapsody, Slacker, MOG, etc.). Checkout the list here: http://www.mysqueezebox.com/appgallery
The Q has a ton of potential right out of the box and is easily worth what it is going for on eBay these days - if the user is savvy enough to exploit its potential.

I think the Q was the perfect device for a place like a bedroom where you'd otherwise just have a simple shelf unit (or I do at least). It's more convenient and a bit cleaner than always connecting your phone to the aux input. Plus, it's nice to be able to control it remotely.
The only thing is that it's too expensive. It's priced as a high-end device, but in most of us already have a "high-end" solution for this sort of thing (ie: a PC or similar) which can do a lot more. A device like the Q needs to be [just a bit] cheaper so that it can compete with a shelf unit. Though I realize I'm not the first one to say this.

New owner of N7, some queries

Hey there
I all be getting my piece tomorrow .
And I have decided to give reading another go now .
Can any one recommend me the best ebook reading app and the supported format that give similar experience as kindle screen.
Is rooting required at this point of time , are there any benefits at this stage, if yes then which method and may be which rom is advised .
My nexus was purchased for me by friend from play store , is there a way to transfer the play store credit to my Google account from his.
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e-book apps
lord dredd said:
Hey there
I all be getting my piece tomorrow .
And I have decided to give reading another go now .
Can any one recommend me the best ebook reading app and the supported format that give similar experience as kindle screen.
Is rooting required at this point of time , are there any benefits at this stage, if yes then which method and may be which rom is advised .
My kindle was purchased for me by friend from play store , is there a way to transfer the play store credit to my Google account from his.
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I use the nook app almost exclusively. The reason is my first device was the original Nook (then it died after warranty), so I have a lot of content through them. I also like the Free Friday selections - they put a normally paid book up for free for one day only. I've discovered tons of good books that I normally wouldn't buy (I hate to spend money on books when I don't know if it's worth the money or not).
I also use the Kindle app for the small amount of content I have on there.
I also use the Overdrive combined with SLCounty Library apps for all of my library reading. The bad thing about this is that too often I have to wait for a particular book to become available. On the other hand I have read some gems that I wouldn't have bought otherwise.
Personally I like the reading experience of Nook. It seems that I'm more able to forget the device and lose myself in the book more than the other apps. YMMV.
I rooted primarily because I wanted to get the notification bar combined with the navigation bar - tablet UI. It feels like I have more screen real-estate. That, plus I like the custom backups better than the Google backup, I've already used it to re-install apps (I did it as a test).
I will probably be adding a custom ROM in the next day or two.
I doubt you're going to be able to get your friends store credit, they shouldn't have elected to associate the device with their account when it was purchased. Oh well, live and learn.

Thanks a lot.
Actually I have a lot if books lying around in epub format , which I used to read on my iPod a while back , is that compatible with nexus as well and van they be read with nook app.
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Ouya vs google play store

I was following ouya development but I have to say its a surprise for me that I will not be allowed to play already bought games.
For me ouya was a nice looking google tv with pads, probably it will end up that way since devs will hack the living **** out of it Anyway the freemium/microtransaction model might be in conflict with the whole sourcy openness.
Who prefer cm based ouya rather than stock ouya market thingy?

I'm not to worried about it. The Kindle Fire have a closed system, but was able to get Play Store sideloaded. The Ouya is most likely going to get CM ported to it.
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yeah but the whole issue is to tweak pads controls so it will be useful on touch controlled apps. not sure if it will worm

It has sideloading, you just install Play like any other app. It's probably the 2nd or 3rd thing I plan on doing when I eventually get mine in
noted for future reference on my Note 2

This is going to be a great device to tinker with :victory:

Would just sideloading the play store .apk work?
From what I remember, the OUYA will only be running on Android - it won't have the Google apps framework. If that's the case, I think the Play Store by itself won't work unless gapps are installed as well. I'm sure that won't be hard to overcome (simply flash gapps.zip from recovery or something) but it's worth thinking about.
And on that note, if it's possible and/or necessary to flash gapps, do you think that will open up (easy) access to all Google apps on the OUYA? I'd love to see some kind of in-game chat through Babel or something. (Of course, that could be what's coming with the android games code found in the MyGlass app...)

GAPPS is just Google apps you can't download.
It may be possible to load the Play stare. Just depends all what it required to it to work. I don't know if there is something that has to be installed within the framework or not.
The bigger problem I see is that Google Play may not have listing for the Ouya and thus not a lot of apps will show up or be downloadable within Google Play if it did install.

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GAPPS is just Google apps you can't download.
It may be possible to load the Play stare. Just depends all what it required to it to work. I don't know if there is something that has to be installed within the framework or not.
The bigger problem I see is that Google Play may not have listing for the Ouya and thus not a lot of apps will show up or be downloadable within Google Play if it did install.
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I think the other problem is that the controller may not play well with most of the apps on the market.

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I think the other problem is that the controller may not play well with most of the apps on the market.
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that may be an issue for anything not delivered through the Ouya Store. I think if you want an idea what may happen, if you have another android device, rooted, and have Sixaxais App installed and Playstation3 synced, try running the app with it turned on.
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Just get an mk908 Android mini pc, run all of the emulators, XBMC, Play Store, and Bluetooth PS3 controller. Oh, an air mouse also.

I have to say I am very underwhelmed and disappointed by my OUYA. Besides the fact that I had to look online to see how to even install the batteries in the controller because there was ZERO instructions in what's laughably called a manual, I had completely forgotten about the touch pad and spent a while trying to figure out why I couldn't play Saturday Morning RPG on it. I was really hoping to better the experience by either grabbing apps from GPS or worse case sideload them, but after reading the comments here and elsewhere I think I'm best off just using my phone and tablet for Google gaming and sell this so I can put the $ towards an Xbox One....now THAT is a "smart device" if I've EVER seen one!! :good:

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I have to say I am very underwhelmed and disappointed by my OUYA. Besides the fact that I had to look online to see how to even install the batteries in the controller because there was ZERO instructions in what's laughably called a manual, I had completely forgotten about the touch pad and spent a while trying to figure out why I couldn't play Saturday Morning RPG on it. I was really hoping to better the experience by either grabbing apps from GPS or worse case sideload them, but after reading the comments here and elsewhere I think I'm best off just using my phone and tablet for Google gaming and sell this so I can put the $ towards an Xbox One....now THAT is a "smart device" if I've EVER seen one!! :good:
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I'd suggest you're the only person on earth who thought that the Xbox one looked like a smart device, it's been the laughing stock of the internet.
Ouya has it's own store, having the google play store would bankrupt the company being they would make no money and google would make it all...
I'm sorry you had so much trouble, but I can't say anyone else had issues figuring out these basics, what you have is not a retail product, you got an early version that is not ready for prime time on a software/manual level, so it's rather silly to expect a retail quality manual when it does not ship for another month to retail... we are beta testers, and I thought the fact that we were paying to BUILD it clued everyone in on that.

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I'd suggest you're the only person on earth who thought that the Xbox one looked like a smart device, it's been the laughing stock of the internet.
Ouya has it's own store, having the google play store would bankrupt the company being they would make no money and google would make it all...
I'm sorry you had so much trouble, but I can't say anyone else had issues figuring out these basics, what you have is not a retail product, you got an early version that is not ready for prime time on a software/manual level, so it's rather silly to expect a retail quality manual when it does not ship for another month to retail... we are beta testers, and I thought the fact that we were paying to BUILD it clued everyone in on that.
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ha yeah, i hope he was being sarcastic. Xbox One is a joke....to gamers anyway
it looks good on the surface until you get to the details they didnt share at the conference
a few thoughts
- when i'm gaming, i'm gaming. i'm not switching to TV or Movies or IE every few minutes.
- not always online....but it has to check every 24 hrs (according to one report). what if u have no internetz or are in the military or my bro in law who cant get internet at his house (without paying thousands to have lines run)?
- pay a fee on top of the price you paid for a used game (need to hear gamefly & gamestops reaction)
- kinect always has to be connected. (also what if someone comes in the room & says "turn that XBOX OFF" there goes your progress.
- the exclusives are probably kinect titles for kids
- non-removable HDD (should be just in case of failure)
- indie developers cant self publish
- for our fellow earthlings, a lot of this wont work outside of US
- it's GINORMOUS!
- the XBOX ONE is so forward-thinking, it's not even backwards compatible with gamers.
anyway, finally got my distribution center email for my OUYA today.
reading up on all this stuff while bored at work.

I've shown a lot of people the Ouya, most of them actually wanted one after seeing all of the things it would do. I've had a few who just don't get it and I understand it's not for everyone, but what does kill me are the ones who are like "ok so it plays movies at 1080P and XBMC is nice and all, but why would I pay $99 for something to watch movies and play a few phone games".. .the facepalm comes in when I find out they say this while owning an AppleTV.

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I've shown a lot of people the Ouya, most of them actually wanted one after seeing all of the things it would do. I've had a few who just don't get it and I understand it's not for everyone, but what does kill me are the ones who are like "ok so it plays movies at 1080P and XBMC is nice and all, but why would I pay $99 for something to watch movies and play a few phone games".. .the facepalm comes in when I find out they say this while owning an AppleTV.
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hah, thats hilarious.
i actually asked for a refund last friday, but heard nothing until the distribution center email today. ha. oh well.
we'll see if i actually have any time to mess with it.

I'm of the tinkering type so it was a no brainer for me, but I found I'm enjoying it even more than I thought I would, there are so many games out there I don't even want to throw down $2 for because they just don't look good... but here everything can be played for free, so I find myself trying every single game out there, I've gotten so many gaming time for nothing... and i found I loved some of these games I would have otherwise passed over.

misfit410 said:
I'm of the tinkering type so it was a no brainer for me, but I found I'm enjoying it even more than I thought I would, there are so many games out there I don't even want to throw down $2 for because they just don't look good... but here everything can be played for free, so I find myself trying every single game out there, I've gotten so many gaming time for nothing... and i found I loved some of these games I would have otherwise passed over.
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cool.
so what all have you tinkered with so far, just trying games or some other more complicated things.
basically i want to know where to start when i get mine. should i try some games or sideload some other stuff on it, etc

Sideloaded Emulators, Web Browsers, Onlive, etc..
put the Amazon app store on so I could load up Opera Mobile, Dolphin and Maxthon browser, as well as file explorer..
you can sideload apps without any external tools if you just use the built in browser to download then go to the settings menu, storage, downloads and you can launch an APK from there.
the one thing to know is that all sideloaded apps go to the developers MAKE section.. but most stuff I've loaded runs well, still hoping to get my hands on a generation 2 googletv netflix apk.

misfit410 said:
Sideloaded Emulators, Web Browsers, Onlive, etc..
put the Amazon app store on so I could load up Opera Mobile, Dolphin and Maxthon browser, as well as file explorer..
you can sideload apps without any external tools if you just use the built in browser to download then go to the settings menu, storage, downloads and you can launch an APK from there.
the one thing to know is that all sideloaded apps go to the developers MAKE section.. but most stuff I've loaded runs well, still hoping to get my hands on a generation 2 googletv netflix apk.
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sweet, thanks yo.
i'll be reading up on everything on these forums for the next 2 weeks.
thanks for the head start

misfit410 said:
I'd suggest you're the only person on earth who thought that the Xbox one looked like a smart device, it's been the laughing stock of the internet.
Ouya has it's own store, having the google play store would bankrupt the company being they would make no money and google would make it all...
I'm sorry you had so much trouble, but I can't say anyone else had issues figuring out these basics, what you have is not a retail product, you got an early version that is not ready for prime time on a software/manual level, so it's rather silly to expect a retail quality manual when it does not ship for another month to retail... we are beta testers, and I thought the fact that we were paying to BUILD it clued everyone in on that.
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I disagree 100% in that the op will be indicative of most general consumers that buy this at retail stores. That said, common sense suggests the retail units will have clear and concise guides as soon as you open the box. None the less, most retail buyers are going to balk at a proprietary market.
Their model depends on it, but most consumers will not care about that and will expect a simple, easy to start experience.
The bubble of this forum is not the best sample of tech knowledge level for mass market game systems. Lower the bar. If Ouya assumes otherwise, they may see good sales followed by a lot more returns than expected.