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Well Hi All. Madhouse here. A buddy of mine who is a firefighter is also a part time Verizon employee, he was gracious enough to let me carry a droid X demo for the day here. It's currently 12:37 pm here and i will have access to the phone for a few more hours here. I made a few videos and took some pictures, i will try my best to answer any requests made in this thread while i have the phone. A few basic principals apply. Obviously i will not be demoing any rooting or hacking type activities on the phone because it is not mine.
Look forward to the questions! Enjoy!
(Will be editing and putting links to the videos in a minute here)
This is a test sample of the droid x's video capability in 720p
Droid X Mozilla Demo
Wow, lucky! I know this may seem dumb... but an alternate home (such as LauncherPro) can be installed, right?
Also, what's the screen like? Is it very responsive/accurate?
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Wow, lucky! I know this may seem dumb... but an alternate home (such as LauncherPro) can be installed, right?
Also, what's the screen like? Is it very responsive/accurate?
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I'll check into the launcher thing for you and the screen is AMAZINGLY accurate, i'll have a video of the multitouch vis app test up in a minute. It makes the Evo (My phone) look terrible as far as touch responsiveness.
how loud does the "loud" speaker sound compared to other smartphones? Also do you feel that the dual leds are very bright? Do the hard buttons on the front feel like they are good quality?
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I'll check into the launcher thing for you and the screen is AMAZINGLY accurate, i'll have a video of the multitouch vis app test up in a minute. It makes the Evo (My phone) look terrible as far as touch responsiveness.
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Woo hoo! This is important to me, so I'm glad to hear that! Makes me even more excited for this!
Hows the keyboard working? The trouble I'm having with my touch phone right now is my fingers are too big and i'm constantly making mistakes -.-
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how loud does the "loud" speaker sound compared to other smartphones? Also do you feel that the dual leds are very bright? Do the hard buttons on the front feel like they are good quality?
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It's definitely loud. It's about as loud as an Evo 4G's or Droid Incredible's. We have all three phones present. Tested them all.
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Woo hoo! This is important to me, so I'm glad to hear that! Makes me even more excited for this!
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I was going to make a video but im using the Evo to make the videos, but yeah, it is SPOT ON for the touch sensitivity, makes the Evo look like it's stuck in the mud. Probably due to the FPS cap or something for all i know.
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Hows the keyboard working? The trouble I'm having with my touch phone right now is my fingers are too big and i'm constantly making mistakes -.-
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It's big, it's especially big if you turn it sideways. I'm a big guy too (6'4" 268 lbs.) The keyboard feels natural too, it's of good size. It has a multitouch keyboard as well as swype for fast typing.
Any chance you have a micro-hdmi cable handy to test playing a DIVX/AVI movie on a TV?
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Any chance you have a micro-hdmi cable handy to test playing a DIVX/AVI movie on a TV?
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I have the cable, i don't have an HDTV unfortunately. Sorry!
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I have the cable, i don't have an HDTV unfortunately. Sorry!
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
Awesome to hear about the keyboard! It's the only thing im iffy about considering I really was looking forward to a slide out keyboard.. but if the keys are big then no worries
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
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I can't seem to figure out how to get it to go to original launcher much less launcher pro. It's stuck in this motoblur hybrid UI
peperonikiller said:
Awesome to hear about the keyboard! It's the only thing im iffy about considering I really was looking forward to a slide out keyboard.. but if the keys are big then no worries
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Swype works VERY well for people with large fingers because its just dragging it across the keyboard and yes the keyboard feels great.
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I can't seem to figure out how to get it to go to original launcher much less launcher pro. It's stuck in this motoblur hybrid UI
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So you can't install Launcher Pro from the market?! I don't care about the default one, just need to know I can replace it with something else from the market.
This is what should happen (in case you don't know):
->Install Launcher Pro
->Hit home
->A box should come up asking what launcher you want to use (if you get to here it works).
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So you can't install Launcher Pro from the market?! I don't care about the default one, just need to know I can replace it with something else from the market.
This is what should happen (in case you don't know):
->Install Launcher Pro
->Hit home
->A box should come up asking what launcher you want to use (if you get to here it works).
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Working on it now. Gimmie a second.
(Update: It works flawlessly. Looks amazing too.)
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Working on it now. Gimmie a second.
(Update: It works flawlessly. Looks amazing too.)
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Cool! Thanks for all your answers man, really appreciate it!
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Could you possibly answer if the launcher can be replaced? ^.^
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yes it can be replace. here's a DX with launcher pro
http://androidforums.com/motorola-droid-x/114611-home-screens-launcherpro-screen-shots.html
Jollibee said:
yes it can be replace. here's a DX with launcher pro
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Does this necessarily mean Launcher Pro is running instead of Moto's default? Or can it be on top of the original (i.e. wasting mem/cpu, running both)?
The choice it gives on pressing the home screen is just that it recognizes there are 2 registered apps that handle launcher requests, right? It doesn't necessarily kill one for the other, does it?
Only had Android for a few weeks, so sorry if silly question.
So earlier today I was in math class and the kid next to me has an iphone 4. he starts bragging about his retina display (LOL) and how his graphics are so far ahead of the Vibrants. This is my question: The iphone has games with amazing graphics--and as far as I know, there are zero games on the android market that are as smooth and crisp looking. I know my display is better and I want to be able to show him so he can stop bragging to everyone on campus about how he has the best phone available. So do you guys know of any games that will show off the Vibrants glorious screen?
The Dungeon Defenders: First Wave game is built on the Unreal engine, the same one that makes some of those cool games on there. That's probably your best bet.
Dungeon Defenders or Raging Thunder 2.
Well angry birds shows much better on the vibrant. Nfs shift is a good one to.
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Rocket Bunnies
and then you can tell him the developer will be porting it to iphone "soon"
Dungeon defenders is the only option really all the other good looking games are multi platform
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Dungeon Defenders and GT Racing Academy (not in the market, you have to get it from Gamefly) are probably the 2 best looking games on my Vibrant.
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The Dungeon Defenders: First Wave game is built on the Unreal engine, the same one that makes some of those cool games on there. That's probably your best bet.
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yea i wanted to show him Avatar since it looks beyond AMAZING on the Vibrant but I have upgraded to 2.2 via kies so Avatar is not currently working on my phone.
I will take a look at all of these games and purchase a few of them. Thanks to all of you who have helped. Other suggestions will be appreciated as well!
alecjake said:
yea i wanted to show him Avatar since it looks beyond AMAZING on the Vibrant but I have upgraded to 2.2 via kies so Avatar is not currently working on my phone.
I will take a look at all of these games and purchase a few of them. Thanks to all of you who have helped. Other suggestions will be appreciated as well!
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here's how to fix avatar
http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Samsung-Vibrant/Avatar/m-p/685089#M52072
i would just beeat him up and show him which phone is better but i assume u dont want to get kicked out of class ;p and next time he brags just rotate your phone while on desktop u know it will rotate 90 deg which i phone dont do lol and assk him if his phone can do that ! and get lcd density changer u can change resolution of your screen yo
bartek25 said:
i would just beeat him up and show him which phone is better but i assume u dont want to get kicked out of class ;p and next time he brags just rotate your phone while on desktop u know it will rotate 90 deg which i phone dont do lol and assk him if his phone can do that ! and get lcd density changer u can change resolution of your screen yo
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i checked the market for lcd density changer and it says that it doesnt exist on the market. and what do you mean by "rotate your phone while on desktop"? Do you mean I should open an app that will rotate my phones orientation?
lol i would just download froyo it does rotation on its own and next this this program is called LCD Density Changer i got it of market
and just ONE MORE tiny thing ,i got BrIcKeD KA7 and my battery last for full day listening to mp3 can his iphony do that ?
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lol i would just download froyo it does rotation on its own and next this this program is called LCD Density Changer i got it of market
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i have froyo but my phones not rotating on its own. LCD density changer is not showing up in my market... thats wierd.
and once ginger is ported to vibrant i hope this phone will eat iphone alive in every aspect ....i hope so i also think that vibrant specs are better thn iphony but i might be wrong lol
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settings - display - auto rotate screen or just pull down status bar and its last thing on right for auto rotation 0_o? u got to be on 2.1 eclair if u dont have rotation buddy
lets make it clear u have the official samsung vibrant froyo rioght ?
if u are on 2.1 eclair your phone is only good as a mp3 player , dont even take it out in class room P
I'd stop worrying so much about what other people think and enjoy your phone.
Save the competitive genes for arguments that will still be relevent a year from now.
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bartek25 said:
and once ginger is ported to vibrant i hope this phone will eat iphone alive in every aspect ....i hope so i also think that vibrant specs are better thn iphony but i might be wrong lol
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settings - display - auto rotate screen or just pull down status bar and its last thing on right for auto rotation 0_o? u got to be on 2.1 eclair if u dont have rotation buddy
lets make it clear u have the official samsung vibrant froyo rioght ?
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yes. downloaded last week from kies. i checked the 'About Phone' and it says 2.2 firmware and the build is froyo.uvka6. EDIT: I turned off auto rotation and then turned it back on. it now works. thanks for the help.
meorah said:
I'd stop worrying so much about what other people think and enjoy your phone.
Save the competitive genes for arguments that will still be relevent a year from now.
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i respect your opinion but I completely disagree with it.
oh forgot to mention download launcher pro lol its a launcher easy on your battery and it makes your desktop rotate and u can put your custom icons on desktop which is nice if u like to make your phione flashy but im nit suggestin anything lol
hi i have been have a very big problem with the multitouch on the HD2 running in android NAND the best way of showing this is using the app multitouch visualizer 2 which is free on the market its shows that when the touching two points on the screen when two axis become near each other from the vertical axis or the horizontal it will move both points that are being touched
is anyone working on this problem and if so are you working on more than 2 point multitouch for the HD2 android
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hi i have been have a very big problem with the multitouch on the HD2 running in android NAND the best way of showing this is using the app multitouch visualizer 2 which is free on the market its shows that when the touching two points on the screen when two axis become near each other from the vertical axis or the horizontal it will move both points that are being touched
is anyone working on this problem and if so are you working on more than 2 point multitouch for the HD2 android
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You should post this in the right section Android Q&A
The multi touch is a known issue. There are debates on whether or not the HD2 supports more than two fingers also, but that is irrelevant right now, as two finger multi touch doesn't even work properly. However we also don't know if it is the HD2 that simply can't handle the two finger touch or is it the drivers.
Now iunno if anyone is actually even going to bother with the problem as the only times the problem is an annoyance, is during gaming, but that is, gaming with a joystick and etc. So I don't think devs are actually going to bother with a problem they don't even know whether its the device or software.
ah...
but since it only support two touch i think mine got a lil bit problem with 2 touch,
like it will get trouble when i am trying to put 2nd touch... like playing gt game, which im breaking it also react my steering that makes me unable to play it...
so it is cant be fix then?
thank for the information then
The hd2 can only support 2 touches, there is no problem with axis inversion , although when the two points are close to each other they lock and that is a hardware problem
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hentyanto said:
ah...
but since it only support two touch i think mine got a lil bit problem with 2 touch,
like it will get trouble when i am trying to put 2nd touch... like playing gt game, which im breaking it also react my steering that makes me unable to play it...
so it is cant be fix then?
thank for the information then
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No, can't be fixed. When the touch touches are near the same axis, they will both show touches on the same axis. Pretty sure it's a hardware problem. This is one of the big points I always tell people when they're trying to decide between HD2 and a native android phone, along with the fact the HD2 screen is only 56,000 colors compared to 4million a native device has.
well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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Why would you need a source, it has been proven changing the code wont do anything it is know that these panels have issues with point locking
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chappersjohn said:
well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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I'm not about to dig up old threads about the touchscreen driver development or irc logs... any of the devs that have worked on drivers for the touchscreen have said this. I remember seeing cotulla discussing it in irc sometime in the last few months. Touchscreen is not going to get any better than it is right now... there has been a lot of work on it over the last year and a half.
i resume this thread to notice that isn't an android issue... it happend on windows mobile also.. and is irritating..
daevoq said:
i resume this thread to notice that isn't an android issue... it happend on windows mobile also.. and is irritating..
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yeah, hardware normally doesnt change when moving to another os
M..N said:
...there is no problem with axis inversion , ..
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There is definitely axis inversion and a few other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8ipacbcao
The Hd2 is single-touch and pinch-to-zoom.
It was never intended to have multitouch or android.
well... let this multitouch be for pinch to zoom only but this issue is disturbing while normal tapping on the keyboard.... You tap next letter of your word and You don't release the previous letter so this "next" letter won't be recieved. The touch runs between my fingers, look :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTsvyRh3fqE
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There is definitely axis inversion and a few other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8ipacbcao
The Hd2 is single-touch and pinch-to-zoom.
It was never intended to have multitouch or android.
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It is not single touch, it dual touch not true multitouch axis inversion is happening in the video as they are putting the fingers to code to the edge of the screen so its messing up.
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Is the keyboard multi-touch? Many keyboards aren't and can only receive a single input at a time so even if you type really quickly, you need to make sure you left one finger completely off the screen before typing the next. I can type pretty fast using the HTC_IME that comes with multi-touch. I mean, you can't hit "shift+a" to get a capital "A" but you can hit a key before letting go of another key and the keyboard will still pick up the correct keystrokes most of the time.
M..N said:
It is not single touch, it dual touch
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Dual touch mode allows a two sensor system to track the absolute location of two simultaneous events provided that they are located in different regions of the screen.
What you mean is Dual Control or Gesture Input aka pinch-to-zoom.
M..N said:
It is not true multitouch axis inversion
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yeah, it's virtual...your Multi Dual Touch...
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...keyboard will still pick up the correct keystrokes most of the time.
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because the first pressed button gets released first
When I was using MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.1_NAND, i think, Multitouch was doing well. There were no such thing like multitouch problem, even while crossing the fingers. Now I'm using BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER 2.3.3_V10 and I have problem with multitouch. I'm 100% sure that I was using some ROM with well working multitouch. Maybe someone should check it?
Sorry for poor English...
Edit: I was not MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.1_NAND. When i figure out, I will make a video for a prove.
where is the proof?
arhanghel92 said:
where is the proof?
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Umm I starting to think that i was dreaming... -.-'
Honestly i have no problems with multitouch either using Gingerbread .
There s a couple other things that are a lil quirky but nothing that would make it unusable
Why the games screen is too big like the all buttons stick likee i dont know can any one here can help mee ?
Sorry about bad english im latvian !!
because the resolution of the game is biger then display resolution on x8!
If you're getting APKs not from the market, then it's likely they're not completely tailored to the X8 screen. Either get the apps from the market if you want apps that are compatible, or, look for apps from phones with lower resolution screens.
You can change you phone desity in a lower value... bigger screen.
@up
ThT doesn't work , I tried
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mati96PL said:
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ThT doesn't work , I tried
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Mmmm... so the only thing left is to replace apk with one for our phone...
We know before update, x10 not have multitouch .., and they have multittouch after update from se official., does that mean x8 had posibble too get multitouch if we can update the touch sofware?., if we see how x10 get the multitouch after update, maybe that mean multitouch not about hardware but about sofware., we need some one to solve this.. some one who can give us surprise
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About flash player., the situation it like this , we can instal its but cant use its.., adobe say its only for armv7 and hight., and not for armv6.., but i think x8 its not support any flash player.. i had try instal any kind flash player apk to my x8., but no one realy can work and play swf file.,that mean flash player must include from the original rom.
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// TOPIC REPEAT #73462349743265934 ///
aren't u ppl bored of it already??
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aren't u ppl bored of it already??
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+9999999999 this same quest has been ask gazillion time.
TO THE OP: Multitouch? Dualtouch? no one can make it real because our x8 only have one sensor..unless u good enough to add more sensor mybe? and flash,no its not included in original rom..its a software by adobe and u can install it..and thats mean even U CAN INSTALL IT, but without arm7 processor how come its gonna work?
AND PLEASE DONT OPEN THREAD REGARDING THIS TOPIC AGAIN. MOD Lock This Thread Please.
So what's up with Flash Lite?
Even the "w" series can play sfw-s with FL.
kecil26 said:
+9999999999 this same quest has been ask gazillion time.
TO THE OP: Multitouch? Dualtouch? no one can make it real because our x8 only have one sensor..unless u good enough to add more sensor mybe? and flash,no its not included in original rom..its a software by adobe and u can install it..and thats mean even U CAN INSTALL IT, but without arm7 processor how come its gonna work?
AND PLEASE DONT OPEN THREAD REGARDING THIS TOPIC AGAIN. MOD Lock This Thread Please.
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One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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yea... but those are not android...
sukartochen said:
One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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if u're so smart, go tell THAT to doixanh... =.=
"other flash software" ??? u mean adobe isn't the only one making flash???
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One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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dude..x8 does have one sensor(maybe)..do you even know what one sensor means really?..it means you can use only one finger at a time..
if i am reading and understanding his argument correctly, it would seem that that X8 will have 320x480 = 153,600 sensors... quite a nice number considering the Xperia Play has "only" 32...
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if i am reading and understanding his argument correctly, it would seem that that X8 will have 320x480 = 153,600 sensors... quite a nice number considering the Xperia Play has "only" 32...
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ohh..i see...thats a lot of sensors
sukartochen said:
One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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...why don't you try reading existing threats?
FIRST READ PREVIOUS THREATS... THEN YOU WILL NOT BE EMBARASED FROM POSTING STUPIT THINGS.
We can get multitouch. Ok... Only some of us These ones who had Cypress digitizer can got it , but not many ppl got it.
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if u're so smart, go tell THAT to doixanh... =.=
"other flash software" ??? u mean adobe isn't the only one making flash???
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...there are other flash softwares... Gnash... they try to port it on andoid but don't expect much.
Once more.
Multitouch/dualtouch: Not possible, most of us has the Synaptics digitizer and their specs on the Clearpad 1000 says it is Singletouch Read more here: http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
Now, there is another digitizer called Cypress, but i doubt it will have support for multitouch either.
Flash: Won´t happen. Adobe flash does not support Armv6 cpus, which our phones are equipped with.
Please stop spamming the forums with threads like this! Flash and multi/dual touch wont happen no matter how many threads like these you create! Trust the devs here, they know what they talk about!
Ok, I'll explane to you some things:
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* Nobody sees this, at step 14? It's Synaptics T1021A !
* And nobody sees this? T1021A is ClearPad 1000 !
* And nobody also sees this? ClearPad 1000 is Single-Touch !
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here you have sorces:
1: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10-Mini-E10i-Teardown/3124/2
2: http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedFiles/ECN/Articles/2011/02/December%202010.pdf
3: http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
CLEARLY ENOUGHT?!
X8 have ClearPad 1000 who not support real mt.
Cypress also supports only one finger.
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MrCzAjNiK said:
Ok, I'll explane to you some things:
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here you have sorces:
1: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10-Mini-E10i-Teardown/3124/2
2: http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedFiles/ECN/Articles/2011/02/December%202010.pdf
3: http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
CLEARLY ENOUGHT?!
X8 have ClearPad 1000 who not support real mt.
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nokia n8 got real multi touch and got the very same digitizer that we got !!
here see yourself :
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia-N8-Teardown/3641/2
now what?! i'm really confused !! can we get multi touch as the nokia n8 both phones n8 and x8 use the same touch chip the Synaptics T1021A !
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nokia n8 got real multi touch and got the very same digitizer that we got !!
here see yourself :
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia-N8-Teardown/3641/2
now what?! i'm really confused !! can we get multi touch as the nokia n8 both phones n8 and x8 use the same touch chip the Synaptics T1021A !
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Yeah I like the people too, whose not looking around, and writes that synaptics T1021A is only single tuch. I mean ok, it IS single touch, but with a little logic, it will be possible to make a pretty good emulated multitouch, like what if we force the sensor to refresh the position of second and first touches alternately with 0,5-1ms delay, and force it to merge the recieved datas in one datastream (e.g.: to send the information to the cpu in 1-2ms breakdowns [logicly the double time that each position's data arrives], when the two positions has merged)? It will be a little laggy, but it won't be annoying.
To be more simple: It's like you touching for example the bottom left corner and bottom right corner alternately with really high speed. In this case the screen won't shake in a game, because it's not like you slide your finger left and right (with common software it percieves sliding, try it)
Damn I can't program in C...
Wonder if it will work...
it will be possible to make a pretty good emulated multitouch
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Yeah that makes sense. I guess they developed something like our x8gesture.
@skyboyextreme, look at this clip
Look carefully at 0:14 and 0:30, when the user zooms out. It seems to be not a real dual-touch zoom-out to me. It looks like a gesture
And don't expect too much about MT/DT capabilities. You really want that, come and get a better phone
/edit: also, look at this
At first, 0:01, it seems to zoom at correct center (between two fingers), then at 0:02, the zoom center is at the black area near top of the screen. It isn't at the correct zoom center (which was supposed to be between two fingers).
/edit #2: another one, this seems good,
This is map app, seems a good zoom, but look, it always zoom at the screen center...