We know before update, x10 not have multitouch .., and they have multittouch after update from se official., does that mean x8 had posibble too get multitouch if we can update the touch sofware?., if we see how x10 get the multitouch after update, maybe that mean multitouch not about hardware but about sofware., we need some one to solve this.. some one who can give us surprise
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About flash player., the situation it like this , we can instal its but cant use its.., adobe say its only for armv7 and hight., and not for armv6.., but i think x8 its not support any flash player.. i had try instal any kind flash player apk to my x8., but no one realy can work and play swf file.,that mean flash player must include from the original rom.
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aren't u ppl bored of it already??
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aren't u ppl bored of it already??
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+9999999999 this same quest has been ask gazillion time.
TO THE OP: Multitouch? Dualtouch? no one can make it real because our x8 only have one sensor..unless u good enough to add more sensor mybe? and flash,no its not included in original rom..its a software by adobe and u can install it..and thats mean even U CAN INSTALL IT, but without arm7 processor how come its gonna work?
AND PLEASE DONT OPEN THREAD REGARDING THIS TOPIC AGAIN. MOD Lock This Thread Please.
So what's up with Flash Lite?
Even the "w" series can play sfw-s with FL.
kecil26 said:
+9999999999 this same quest has been ask gazillion time.
TO THE OP: Multitouch? Dualtouch? no one can make it real because our x8 only have one sensor..unless u good enough to add more sensor mybe? and flash,no its not included in original rom..its a software by adobe and u can install it..and thats mean even U CAN INSTALL IT, but without arm7 processor how come its gonna work?
AND PLEASE DONT OPEN THREAD REGARDING THIS TOPIC AGAIN. MOD Lock This Thread Please.
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One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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yea... but those are not android...
sukartochen said:
One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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if u're so smart, go tell THAT to doixanh... =.=
"other flash software" ??? u mean adobe isn't the only one making flash???
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One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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dude..x8 does have one sensor(maybe)..do you even know what one sensor means really?..it means you can use only one finger at a time..
if i am reading and understanding his argument correctly, it would seem that that X8 will have 320x480 = 153,600 sensors... quite a nice number considering the Xperia Play has "only" 32...
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if i am reading and understanding his argument correctly, it would seem that that X8 will have 320x480 = 153,600 sensors... quite a nice number considering the Xperia Play has "only" 32...
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ohh..i see...thats a lot of sensors
sukartochen said:
One sensor?.. you make laught., if one sensor, how you can touch any way of screen to excute some command.,maybe you must learn more to say its , i think x8 touch like x10 ., must change some sofware to function multitouch.,
, i dont only say about flash player 101 adobe .., but other flash sofware cant work too in x8..
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...why don't you try reading existing threats?
FIRST READ PREVIOUS THREATS... THEN YOU WILL NOT BE EMBARASED FROM POSTING STUPIT THINGS.
We can get multitouch. Ok... Only some of us These ones who had Cypress digitizer can got it , but not many ppl got it.
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if u're so smart, go tell THAT to doixanh... =.=
"other flash software" ??? u mean adobe isn't the only one making flash???
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...there are other flash softwares... Gnash... they try to port it on andoid but don't expect much.
Once more.
Multitouch/dualtouch: Not possible, most of us has the Synaptics digitizer and their specs on the Clearpad 1000 says it is Singletouch Read more here: http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
Now, there is another digitizer called Cypress, but i doubt it will have support for multitouch either.
Flash: Won´t happen. Adobe flash does not support Armv6 cpus, which our phones are equipped with.
Please stop spamming the forums with threads like this! Flash and multi/dual touch wont happen no matter how many threads like these you create! Trust the devs here, they know what they talk about!
Ok, I'll explane to you some things:
QUOTE:
* Nobody sees this, at step 14? It's Synaptics T1021A !
* And nobody sees this? T1021A is ClearPad 1000 !
* And nobody also sees this? ClearPad 1000 is Single-Touch !
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here you have sorces:
1: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10-Mini-E10i-Teardown/3124/2
2: http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedFiles/ECN/Articles/2011/02/December%202010.pdf
3: http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
CLEARLY ENOUGHT?!
X8 have ClearPad 1000 who not support real mt.
Cypress also supports only one finger.
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Ok, I'll explane to you some things:
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here you have sorces:
1: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony-Ericsson-Xperia-X10-Mini-E10i-Teardown/3124/2
2: http://www.ecnmag.com/uploadedFiles/ECN/Articles/2011/02/December%202010.pdf
3: http://www.synaptics.com/sites/default/files/190-000015-01-Rev-D-CP1K.pdf
CLEARLY ENOUGHT?!
X8 have ClearPad 1000 who not support real mt.
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nokia n8 got real multi touch and got the very same digitizer that we got !!
here see yourself :
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia-N8-Teardown/3641/2
now what?! i'm really confused !! can we get multi touch as the nokia n8 both phones n8 and x8 use the same touch chip the Synaptics T1021A !
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nokia n8 got real multi touch and got the very same digitizer that we got !!
here see yourself :
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nokia-N8-Teardown/3641/2
now what?! i'm really confused !! can we get multi touch as the nokia n8 both phones n8 and x8 use the same touch chip the Synaptics T1021A !
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Yeah I like the people too, whose not looking around, and writes that synaptics T1021A is only single tuch. I mean ok, it IS single touch, but with a little logic, it will be possible to make a pretty good emulated multitouch, like what if we force the sensor to refresh the position of second and first touches alternately with 0,5-1ms delay, and force it to merge the recieved datas in one datastream (e.g.: to send the information to the cpu in 1-2ms breakdowns [logicly the double time that each position's data arrives], when the two positions has merged)? It will be a little laggy, but it won't be annoying.
To be more simple: It's like you touching for example the bottom left corner and bottom right corner alternately with really high speed. In this case the screen won't shake in a game, because it's not like you slide your finger left and right (with common software it percieves sliding, try it)
Damn I can't program in C...
Wonder if it will work...
it will be possible to make a pretty good emulated multitouch
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Yeah that makes sense. I guess they developed something like our x8gesture.
@skyboyextreme, look at this clip
Look carefully at 0:14 and 0:30, when the user zooms out. It seems to be not a real dual-touch zoom-out to me. It looks like a gesture
And don't expect too much about MT/DT capabilities. You really want that, come and get a better phone
/edit: also, look at this
At first, 0:01, it seems to zoom at correct center (between two fingers), then at 0:02, the zoom center is at the black area near top of the screen. It isn't at the correct zoom center (which was supposed to be between two fingers).
/edit #2: another one, this seems good,
This is map app, seems a good zoom, but look, it always zoom at the screen center...
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hi you all ı find the cab which name is htc hologram ı didnt make it to work may be you will do here you are
oh sorry
you can watch it in youtube with little search may be we will see games with this 3d
What does it do? The title intrigues me.
Too difficult to add the YouTube link?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8EgbEfaOn0
if u think it'll work on other devices without an accelerometer, then im sorry to say but youre wrong
OMFG, I love this !!!! If you could make it fullscreen it was perfect.
And do a QVGA version as well plz.
regards,
Martin
Pretty good. Using the camera to perceive movement. Very nice.
dammend, absolutly sensless, but really cool, how is this workin ? ,i think not with the accelarator, because it reacts on very small movements of the device ?
Edit: okay it uses the G-Sensor, its a xda devs baby, look and download here:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425216
did not know that the g-sensor is so sensitive.
Someone mentioned that it uses the cam. Would be great for a QVGA version...
Might require some Mhz though.
this is megacool. and i think i'll draw the last breath from my polaris for this.
No way this is going to work with the camera.
The software currently works only with HTC Diamond/Pro due to its Hardware accelerated 3D and Accelerometer.
hei looks funny will it run on normal device? I mean not only diamond and pro?
This would be cool, but probably be a lot of work for something you'd have fun with for a grand total of maybe five minutes.
Reminds of the development for the Wii.
i just wish somehow someone could make this work using the camera...
htc touch pro 2
i know this works for htc touch pro 2
you only have to instal some extra software and a ati driver
can someone provide that software (in a link or something like that)
thanks in advance
I'm sure this is about 1 Year old.
There must be an old Thread here at XDA about this but iam too lazy to search now.
I remember using this on my Omnia and its definately using the G-Sensor and not the Cam.
Not working on HTC Imagio WinMo 6.5...
Not working on HTC HD2 but i see on youtube working please help
Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNAr0_24-nk
here the download link of untouched X10 handson: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9299167/00244.MTS
but please don't reupload anywhere else! or it will be the first and last time i upload an untouched video
Please post in General Section.
Besides, i see only a white picture...
I only see a white picture also.
the_black_dragon said:
Hey Guys
i made a small report about IFA in Berlin and i also tried the Android 2.1 update for X10 in a not completed state.....
you can see it here:
starts @ 3:40
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Thanks
*10 chars*
Maybe the flash starts like the comment above picture :
starts @ 3:40
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SORRY GUYS
it was my mistake
now it should work.....
if it is in the wrong section please would a mod move it?
The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
chandyperry said:
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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hmm yes sorry..... this is my new news portal and i still have not much experience in such things so i missed a lot of things.....
- looking for live wallpaper
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)
chandyperry said:
The lockscreen has finally changed!
Too bad you couldn't zoom a little more on your video...
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Use 1080p and full screen.
Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?
You should of had a laptop in your bag and dumped the Rom
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tvachev said:
Moxier still there.
New tabs in Timescape.
Bigger clock or the whole of the title bar.
As far as I can see there is a SwitchPro widget ...
5 screens - coming from Android 2.1
anything else .. ?
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It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.
the_black_dragon said:
- looking for multitouch *damned* (but i think its still not there)
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ehm... since it's not possible because of hardware limitations, you can stop looking...
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It's the android power widget. Copied by switchpro and then improved with transparency and stuff.
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Thanks a lot. Did not know this.
@the_black_dragon thanks for the video
No Youtube access at work so with my X10!
Well thank you for video mate, thumbs up.
Andreas
Thanks for the video!
ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter
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ahh!! didn't test the browser? or multi-touch, someone chop off my right hand and all my fingers on the left except the pointer. no multi touch test, i might as well just keep one finger. the wait is killing me. with no more than one finger multi touch wont matter
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FFS when will people understand that multitouch will NEVER come to the x10 - it is not possible since the hardware doesn't support it!!
much faster!!!
and it seems that you can use 2 exchange accounts.... one with android itselve and one with Moxier mail that's nice....
ne new tab in Timescape is XING!
hi i have been have a very big problem with the multitouch on the HD2 running in android NAND the best way of showing this is using the app multitouch visualizer 2 which is free on the market its shows that when the touching two points on the screen when two axis become near each other from the vertical axis or the horizontal it will move both points that are being touched
is anyone working on this problem and if so are you working on more than 2 point multitouch for the HD2 android
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hi i have been have a very big problem with the multitouch on the HD2 running in android NAND the best way of showing this is using the app multitouch visualizer 2 which is free on the market its shows that when the touching two points on the screen when two axis become near each other from the vertical axis or the horizontal it will move both points that are being touched
is anyone working on this problem and if so are you working on more than 2 point multitouch for the HD2 android
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You should post this in the right section Android Q&A
The multi touch is a known issue. There are debates on whether or not the HD2 supports more than two fingers also, but that is irrelevant right now, as two finger multi touch doesn't even work properly. However we also don't know if it is the HD2 that simply can't handle the two finger touch or is it the drivers.
Now iunno if anyone is actually even going to bother with the problem as the only times the problem is an annoyance, is during gaming, but that is, gaming with a joystick and etc. So I don't think devs are actually going to bother with a problem they don't even know whether its the device or software.
ah...
but since it only support two touch i think mine got a lil bit problem with 2 touch,
like it will get trouble when i am trying to put 2nd touch... like playing gt game, which im breaking it also react my steering that makes me unable to play it...
so it is cant be fix then?
thank for the information then
The hd2 can only support 2 touches, there is no problem with axis inversion , although when the two points are close to each other they lock and that is a hardware problem
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hentyanto said:
ah...
but since it only support two touch i think mine got a lil bit problem with 2 touch,
like it will get trouble when i am trying to put 2nd touch... like playing gt game, which im breaking it also react my steering that makes me unable to play it...
so it is cant be fix then?
thank for the information then
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No, can't be fixed. When the touch touches are near the same axis, they will both show touches on the same axis. Pretty sure it's a hardware problem. This is one of the big points I always tell people when they're trying to decide between HD2 and a native android phone, along with the fact the HD2 screen is only 56,000 colors compared to 4million a native device has.
well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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Why would you need a source, it has been proven changing the code wont do anything it is know that these panels have issues with point locking
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well if it is a hardware problem can some one give me a link to a source that shows this
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I'm not about to dig up old threads about the touchscreen driver development or irc logs... any of the devs that have worked on drivers for the touchscreen have said this. I remember seeing cotulla discussing it in irc sometime in the last few months. Touchscreen is not going to get any better than it is right now... there has been a lot of work on it over the last year and a half.
i resume this thread to notice that isn't an android issue... it happend on windows mobile also.. and is irritating..
daevoq said:
i resume this thread to notice that isn't an android issue... it happend on windows mobile also.. and is irritating..
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yeah, hardware normally doesnt change when moving to another os
M..N said:
...there is no problem with axis inversion , ..
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There is definitely axis inversion and a few other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8ipacbcao
The Hd2 is single-touch and pinch-to-zoom.
It was never intended to have multitouch or android.
well... let this multitouch be for pinch to zoom only but this issue is disturbing while normal tapping on the keyboard.... You tap next letter of your word and You don't release the previous letter so this "next" letter won't be recieved. The touch runs between my fingers, look :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTsvyRh3fqE
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There is definitely axis inversion and a few other bugs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV8ipacbcao
The Hd2 is single-touch and pinch-to-zoom.
It was never intended to have multitouch or android.
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It is not single touch, it dual touch not true multitouch axis inversion is happening in the video as they are putting the fingers to code to the edge of the screen so its messing up.
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Is the keyboard multi-touch? Many keyboards aren't and can only receive a single input at a time so even if you type really quickly, you need to make sure you left one finger completely off the screen before typing the next. I can type pretty fast using the HTC_IME that comes with multi-touch. I mean, you can't hit "shift+a" to get a capital "A" but you can hit a key before letting go of another key and the keyboard will still pick up the correct keystrokes most of the time.
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It is not single touch, it dual touch
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Dual touch mode allows a two sensor system to track the absolute location of two simultaneous events provided that they are located in different regions of the screen.
What you mean is Dual Control or Gesture Input aka pinch-to-zoom.
M..N said:
It is not true multitouch axis inversion
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yeah, it's virtual...your Multi Dual Touch...
h.nocturna said:
...keyboard will still pick up the correct keystrokes most of the time.
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because the first pressed button gets released first
When I was using MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.1_NAND, i think, Multitouch was doing well. There were no such thing like multitouch problem, even while crossing the fingers. Now I'm using BOYPPC-SHIFTPDA GINGER 2.3.3_V10 and I have problem with multitouch. I'm 100% sure that I was using some ROM with well working multitouch. Maybe someone should check it?
Sorry for poor English...
Edit: I was not MDJ_FroYo_Revolution_v._2.1_NAND. When i figure out, I will make a video for a prove.
where is the proof?
arhanghel92 said:
where is the proof?
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Umm I starting to think that i was dreaming... -.-'
Honestly i have no problems with multitouch either using Gingerbread .
There s a couple other things that are a lil quirky but nothing that would make it unusable
The video here tells you what exactly Smart AR can bring on the table. Whenever one happens to use their smartphone's camera to click pictures, this will pull up extra information on the device's screen like anything from virtual objects to images and texts which are otherwise not visible. It makes use of markerless approach where it dispenses with the need of any dedicated requisites for special markers which also includes 2D barcodes. So you'll have all the information displayed over the 3D space in front of you. All that you can see can also be navigated by touching the AR information on the device's screen
Click here to see the video
Source
Whoa. Great find. Thanks for the link.
Only the Japanese Arc officially got it...Let's wait for the developers to port it to the x10 XD
that's cool as hell...
That level of interactivity.
Oh ****! That's awesome!
They use a ARC to show this...
BTW did anyone notice Japanese are obsessed with Pink Arc..all Arc videos from Japan have a Pink Arc..I am sure there must be a hello kitty under the battery !!
O_O i love it.
How much to have it flashed to my brain?
OmegaRED^ said:
O_O i love it.
How much to have it flashed to my brain?
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Lol...this is (as my 6 year old boy says)
AWESOME!!!
Cant wait to get this ported!!
WOW!! Awesome!! SONY ROCKS!!!
Looks awesome, but i would like to see how it goes in real life situations
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This would be awesome if it can be ported to X10. Hope its not hardware dependent.
something like that is allways hardware depended.
And i dont't think that a 1ghz cpu and a bit of gpu is powerful enough to calculate a waterfall in realtime, for me not possible. (that can my PC-gpu with a power use of more than 80Watt!!
It probably will be easy to get on our phones. There are already normal simple AR apps that work and it probably comes down to the devices CPU and camera
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Looks awesome, but i would like to see how it goes in real life situations
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I guess, it will work just like 2D barcoder !
the code would be embedded on the product and by using your cell phone cam, and Sony SmartAR App you'll able to decode it.
Kya bath a bhai saab
zmbutt said:
I guess, it will work just like 2D barcoder !
the code would be embedded on the product and by using your cell phone cam, and Sony SmartAR App you'll able to decode it.
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Wouldnt that mean something would have to be added into the product design by the product manufacturer so it has something to decode?
If so, that means us down here (Australia) probably wont have a use for it for another 15 years
Would be awesome to play with, even if no practical uses
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Wouldnt that mean something would have to be added into the product design by the product manufacturer so it has something to decode?
If so, that means us down here (Australia) probably wont have a use for it for another 15 years
Would be awesome to play with, even if no practical uses
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Notice the video, in which they create a virtual person and virtual environment, I guess, it has nothing to do with "embedded code" on the product side ...
embedded code was my assumption, not necessary to be correct.
zmbutt said:
Notice the video, in which they create a virtual person and virtual environment, I guess, it has nothing to do with "embedded code" on the product side ...
embedded code was my assumption, not necessary to be correct.
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True.... either way looks dam cool...
Cant wait for a port!
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Well i am messing around with my X8. I made some thing that holds my X8 and i Put down my X8 on it and it gone Landscape mode then i was testing with 2 fingers and i saw 2 touches ( 2 fingers) then i was moving them around like crazy then i saw a Blue , Red And a GREEN one just poped out of nothing and 3rd touch was thare it just flashed a green touch! So i think meybe its not at all clearpad 2000. Or maybe its just a Multitouch visible test app bug? Or is it andrej's module?
i hope to see that in your srom...its going to be the perfect rom if its in landscape..(but not in our mdpi x8)...
No this has nothing to do with my rom. Its in the matter or a firmwere limitation or just a bug. Who knows.
Spevky said:
No this has nothing to do with my rom. Its in the matter or a firmwere limitation or just a bug. Who knows.
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Maybe you can try to use another multi touch tester to see the results. Let us know! ;-)
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Nice meybe in future it will work
Oh i tested on other multi-touch app's and i get same resoults! 3 touches but in some it just flashes and in some it is really thare! I wasn't able to take a screenshot becouse i was flashing rom's like crazy my X8 got overheated so i installed a normal 2.2 until it cooled down. With andrej's module.
well can you mabe get a video up of that demonstration? I spent like 3minutes hard playing on that little screen and then ****ing dropped it.
Yea spevky,make a video i gotta se that!
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+1 for video...
Me too! +1 for video!
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Buy me a video camera! . But srsly it works on 2.2 froyopro + andrejs module. Just mess around with it on multi touch test.