I'm trying to wipe my head around this. It saying I've used 13.62 GB from Feb 12 to Mar 11 . I checked all my apps and Google Play Store(being the most data transferred) is only at .69 GB. What other apps can be using data thats not being listed? I also feel like this is whats causing my battery to drain.
Some apps use data in the background. Disable all bloatware apps you don't use and download the app greenify from the play store. This should help with data and battery.
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i have around 100 apps installed and only have around 88 megs free internal. is that normal. and how can i free more. i use the clear cache for root user and it seems to do a little.
pitmanr2003 said:
i have around 100 apps installed and only have around 88 megs free internal. is that normal. and how can i free more. i use the clear cache for root user and it seems to do a little.
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With a fresh clean install I sit at about 140 megs free. Once you factor in the cache that build up and everything it's probably closer to 100. You have 100 apps installed and only lost about 12 megs (thanks to apps2sd). It's normal. Why do you need or want more? Based on that you could install 660 more apps before you ran out of free space.
ok just wandering. making sure its normal. is there a app that can keep programs from auto starting. i downloaded one, but it messed with something important that i cant remember at this time. wouldnt let it run
There's also an app called "TA Utility" on the market that lets you move the cache (browser, market, maps etc.) to the SD card as well.
now im down to like 54mb of memory. thats crazy.
Using stock rooted ROM I wanted to remove some of the apps (most Google apps) that come with the ROM. For this purpose I use the Rom Toolbox lite app. I was able to remove the apps but everytime I go into the play store they show up as an update available.
Can anyone recommend a permanent solution to get rid of these apps that come pre-packed with the stock ROM ?
mjehan said:
Using stock rooted ROM I wanted to remove some of the apps (most Google apps) that come with the ROM. For this purpose I use the Rom Toolbox lite app. I was able to remove the apps but everytime I go into the play store they show up as an update available.
Can anyone recommend a permanent solution to get rid of these apps that come pre-packed with the stock ROM ?
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Use Titanium Backup to uninstall them, go to the system/apps folder and delete the APK, or you can just disable them in the Settings->Apps screen. Take your pick.
dont login to play store
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Use Titanium Backup to uninstall them, go to the system/apps folder and delete the APK, or you can just disable them in the Settings->Apps screen. Take your pick.[/QUOTE
If your going to disable them in settings>app you have to uninstall any updates first then you can disable them. This feature was introduced in ICS.
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munchy_cool said:
dont login to play store
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why?
What Google apps are safe to remove without screwing up the phone (Google play music, magazine, one time init, partner setup, search, currents)
Don't delete Google apps because you won't be able to get ota updates
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BigDig said:
Don't delete Google apps because you won't be able to get ota updates
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Seriously? So we're stuck with the books, magazine and current crap?
texaslittleangel said:
Seriously? So we're stuck with the books, magazine and current crap?
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Yep! I deleted the bloatware as soon as got my N4 back in November, it was running 4.2 , when Google pushed 4.2.1 it wouldn't install so I had to flash back to stock 4.2 and lost all data and settings...
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If you disable them you're fine. If you remove them and they are updated within the ota, it will fail.
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All you gotta do is either push them back or copy them back with root explorer.. That's what I had to do for the update..
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I know I deleted books on Monday when I got my phone but I can't remember if the ota came in before or after the deletion. I froze them with TBP for the time being but they occupy precious memory space.
No they don't. Those apps are located in /system on a different partition.
It has no effect on the space available to the user under normal circumstances. Not normal would be a root user moving files into that partition instead of their normal location.
Example would be converting a app into a system app.
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No they don't. Those apps are located in /system on a different partition.
It has no effect on the space available to the user under normal circumstances. Not normal would be a root user moving files into that partition instead of their normal location.
Example would be converting a app into a system app.
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Please help me understand how this phone works in terms of space then. It is supposed to be 16GB right? We get the phone and it has 12GB only (I am assuming it is because 4GB is being occupied by the system/stock rom). I installed a few apps and I now only have about 7GB left. I downloaded the system analyzer app and it tells me that TB is occupying a hell of a lot more space (due to an initial back-up I performed of apps and data) than what it was occupying on my previous phone. How do I go about loosing between 5 -6 GB of space?!?
Before removing the update of the Googlea apps and disabling them, current was up to 50MB, magazine was higher, etc...
I really do want to learn more about my phone, how best use my storage, save battery etc.
TIA guys
The phones have 16gb of nand in them.
Many things eat away at the so called 16gb. From the mb to bytes way of counting storage ( like any other drive) to the things you mentioned
The phone has a bit under 900 mb set aside for the ROM. Then there is the other stuff like radio / recovery bootloader etc that take up space / have a partition
The extra space you see being used by the apps you mentioned is just data. Currents for example downloads the stuff that you sync so it can be read offline. Its stored locally and takes up space. Same basic idea for the other apps you mentioned.
Once you update a system app also have two of the apks on the phone. One in /system/app and the other in /data/app. So the updated apk itself takes up a bit of space.
Think of it in simple computer terms. You have one 100gb hard drive that is spilt up into two partitions that you cant change ( got to pretend you can't change them for this). 20gb c partition for windows and 80gb left over for whatever. No matter how much stuff you delete off the 20gb you're not going to gain space on the 80.
In our phones all the pre installed apps would be on the 20gb. Anything that gets downloaded/cached etc would go into the 80gb.
If you need space you can free up space by clearing the caches of apps. Getting the titanium backups off the phone and onto a computer or the cloud. Converting some apps to system apps can gain you a couple hundred mb since they wouldn't be on our make believe 80gb partition anymore. Their data and cache will still end up on your regular storage but the apks won't be there...
It's all a translational from marketing to what a computer sees.
In marketing, (and everywhere else I guess based on the mathematical prefixes) they assume:
1Kb = thousand bytes
1Mb = million bytes
1Gb = billion bytes
(kilo- = 10 to the 3rd power, mega- = 10^6, giga- = 10^9)
Whereas a computer sees:
1Kb = 1024 bytes
1Mb = 1048576 bytes
1Gb = 1073741824 bytes
Now the Nexus 4 is 16 Gb = 16 billion bytes.
16 billion divided by 1073741824 = 14.901 Gb
You say before you used TB you had 12 Gigs. With 14.9 of play space, assume your rom/etc is 2.9 Gigs. After backing that up in TB, assuming there is compression, let's say 9.3 Gigs are left.
idk what apps you installed but 2 gigs is easy to kill with games, apps, music, syncing contact photos, etc. (Not to mention caches)
Heck, I install 1 game it takes up 3 gigs.
Albundy, THNAKS a million for explaining this to me. GREAT info!!!
PcFish thank you for the breakdown. No games. I've got the Advanced Task Killer app that helps clean up the cache
Hello!
My Atrix on Bell 45.21.78 Android 2,3,6 boots extremely slow.
Unit is rooted (no ROM or other fancy stuff), normal boot takes ~6 minutes while first boot into wiped Dalvik cache takes 8 minutes (cleaned once Dalvik cache)
-No improvement after the Dalvik cache clean.
-Application data cache cleaned -no impact
-I cannot relate it to applications installed or other things
From Settings:
Storage:
Available space 622 MB
Internal:
Total: 10.71GB available 9.05GB
SD
Total 29.76GB available:13.60GB
From NQ Android Booster:63% memory used 520/816MB
Any suggestion welcome
Adam
I'd say you've likely overloaded your phone with tons of apps. What all apps do you have?
ravilov said:
I'd say you've likely overloaded your phone with tons of apps. What all apps do you have?
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Running apps reported by NQ:
3Gwatchdog
Swiftkey
bump
text messaging
gesture search
stocks
facebook
viber
smart stock
calendar storage
jorte
music
winamp
nabvogator
drm protected content storage
titanium backup
hangouts
youtube
gmail
whatsapp
fring
super task killer
maps
quik video
dlna
nq androis booster
All together under Apps (counting pages of apps and 4x6 apps per page) maybe ~110 apps
Hm, yeah. No idea really since I haven't even heard of many f those apps. Guess you'll have to wait for someone else to pitch in. Overall I'd say about 100 apps is not all that much, I have about 75-80 myself and I have no boot speed problems whatsoever. (Then again, I'm using a custom ROM.)
My Galaxy s5 has been super laggy. I cleared the cache Partition and it runs great...until later tonight or tomorrow morning. Then if I clear the cache Partition again it runs great again. Is there a way to limit how much data the system cache Partition holds so my device will stop lagging? Thanks.
Find out which app is causing the problem and get rid, the cache is not causing the problem, something else is
That sounds right. Is there an app or chart that will show you which app is causing it? I'm not sure how to narrow it down.
There are plenty of apps that show rogue apps that are draining battery or using a high RAM/CPU resource, you could try one of those from the play store
But other than that, look back to approximately when the problem started, and which apps you installed just prior to that (Or however long it takes for the problem to show up once you clear cache) and remove those one by one
Or remove all apps (factory reset) and install them all again one by one
Also check play store app reviews for apps you are suspicious about, and see if anyone else is getting the same problem / google those apps and the problem
Cool. Thanks for the help. And so quickly at that!
Hooray!
I think I found the app. It was Kindlde for Samsung. That thing restarts like crazy. My phone is running much better thanks for the help.
Galaxy S5 G900V Verizon
AOSP Rom 8.0.1 Oreo
My phone is working great for the most part except every few days I have to restore my TWRP backups because internal storage space starts decreasing for no reason. I start out at about 6.33GB then a couple days later i'm down to 4GB or less. No installation of apps and all photos/videos/downloads go to my external SD card. I researched the issue and have installed the app DiskUsage but can not find any apps adding storage. I have also went into Device/System/Bin and went to Dumpstate and Dumpsys properties and unchecked write and execute. I clear all app caches and davilk all the time and restart phone. But problem still persists! Since my phone isnt stock I can not access the #0990# or whatever the code is to access the menu to delete dumpstate as going thru dialer does not pull up the hidden menu even tho hidden menu is marked 'ON' in my settings. I'm getting a bit annoyed by this internal storage issue! Any ideas? Anyone!?
UPDATE: 12/22/2019 I restored backup again and took screenshot list of all app sizes to compare for later when storage drops. I've found out most of my apps are taking up more space and i'm not referring to just cache without doing anything the ones that I hardly use or know that dont save data. Why is this happening!? I went from 60% to 68% taken space over night.
Did you ever sort this out? I am having the same problem with a custom rom on my rooted A3 2017.
Dave
funkoot said:
Did you ever sort this out? I am having the same problem with a custom rom on my rooted A3 2017.
Dave
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No it's still an ongoing issue despite weather I use the android version mentioned, 7.1.2 or Android 11. Something to take note I never had this issue on STOCK roms that I can recall or before Android made the decision to use Adaptable storage for apps I want to say that happened in 2015 or 16. Previously you could just put most apps on external sd card.
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No it's still an ongoing issue despite weather I use the android version mentioned, 7.1.2 or Android 11. Something to take note I never had this issue on STOCK roms that I can recall or before Android made the decision to use Adaptable storage for apps I want to say that happened in 2015 or 16. Previously you could just put most apps on external sd card.
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My issue with disappearing internal memory appears to have settled down. I've installed the "Disk usage and storage analyser" app from the play store and for the last week my internal storage has been stable at 4GB. Don't know why but the app seems to be limiting the amount of internal memory that the apps can take.
I'll give it another week and see if things take a turn for the worst.
Dave
funkoot said:
My issue with disappearing internal memory appears to have settled down. I've installed the "Disk usage and storage analyser" app from the play store and for the last week my internal storage has been stable at 4GB. Don't know why but the app seems to be limiting the amount of internal memory that the apps can take.
I'll give it another week and see if things take a turn for the worst.
Dave
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I think I might have talked to you about this app before. Anyhow nope it didnt work for me. In the past week in storage has ballooned to more than a gig. I have to restore my phone anywhere from every couple weeks to a month because of the storage issue. Apps are writing to internal storage once installed. Thanks for trying to help with the situation.
Try something like SD Maid to clear the caches.
Google Play Services and other Google apks are notorious for building "useless" bloat data bases.
Make sure Google Firebase is disable.
Find the data hog 3rd party apps and take the trash apps out. Multiple browsers are prime targets.
blackhawk said:
Try something like SD Maid to clear the caches.
Google Play Services and other Google apks are notorious for building "useless" bloat data bases.
Make sure Google Firebase is disable.
Find the data hog 3rd party apps and take the trash apps out. Multiple browsers are prime targets.
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Thanks for the tips! I did install SD Maid it's helped clear out space but still having the issue. I looked into disabling Google Firebase but I can't find where it's located? I don't have too many apps installed and just Chrome browser. Most stock apps are trashed.
Droid9684 said:
Thanks for the tips! I did install SD Maid it's helped clear out space but still having the issue. I looked into disabling Google Firebase but I can't find where it's located? I don't have too many apps installed and just Chrome browser. Most stock apps are trashed.
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You're welcome.
Phone settings under Google.
Disabling Google play Services probably will kill it too although the data will remain.
blackhawk said:
You're welcome.
Phone settings under Google.
Disabling Google play Services probably will kill it too although the data will remain.
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Yeah I can't find firebase under google settings. Disabling google services will make Google product apps stop working. I need PlayStore, Gmail and Maps etc.