hey all ~
I have the internal memory widget installed on my homescreen and it shows that i have used up 130 / 159 mb on my sprint Hero.
this morning, I had 126 mb used up
my text messages were acting REAL slow this afternoon, so i booted up the Flipz kitchen (0.2) and backed up/deleted my text messages. works great now. but that added more crap to my phone's memory
What I've done to my phone:
rooted under windows
loaded recovery img
flashed Fresh 1.1
have like 60 apps (I could get rid of at least 5 of em right away, prolly more)
176 contacts - w/ Facebook connect
loaded custom bootscreen - some nexus one / hero hybrid thing with sound
custom theme - ClearLock w/ Stock icons found on geekfor.me/kitchen/lockscreens/
I feel like my phone is running out of internal storage. Am i overracting? Is it actually okay? what can i do to free up some space? how long will this much space last?
I don't want to do apps2sd, it just doesn't seem like a good idea.
thanks all, and sorry if this is not really a problem!
~Jimbo
I just wouldn't go below 10mb of free internal storage, otherwise you should be fine and any preformance issues you may be experiencing are most likely caused by one of the apps you have installed.
Also I remember hearing reports of the phone bugging out when it reaches over 70 apps. I'm not sure if that's still an issue but I'd tread that water slowly if you know what I mean.
prior to this phone, I had a blackberry that bugged out if i had too many messages displayed. I'm not worried at all about the SMS app slowdown
My I9000 is very laggy. Not always, just most of the time.
Closing com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una & Daily Briefings with TasKiller gets me back around 30 MB, available memory now back around 60MB & phone now useable.
I've found a couple of samsung apps in system/app, SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk is 8.9MB, I think that's the culprit. How do I stop it running? Do I just delete it? (I'd probably copy it to the SD card & backup just in case.)
Are there any others i should get rid of/prevent from starting?
wavemechanic said:
My I9000 is very laggy. Not always, just most of the time.
Closing com.sec.android.app.samsungapps.una & Daily Briefings with TasKiller gets me back around 30 MB, available memory now back around 60MB & phone now useable.
I've found a couple of samsung apps in system/app, SamsungWidget_WeatherClock.apk is 8.9MB, I think that's the culprit. How do I stop it running? Do I just delete it? (I'd probably copy it to the SD card & backup just in case.)
Are there any others i should get rid of/prevent from starting?
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I use LauncherPro so I don't (can't) use any Samsung Widgets. However, I was using touchwiz for a while, I didn't have many memory issues with it. If the widget is running you can just click and hold the widget and move it to the trash, you don't need to back it up (it'll still be installed). There are many other things running that the Samsung TaskKiller doesn't pick up, that said, Android from what I read and see myself doesn't need much more than 30-50mb free at any time (though when I'm going to start surfing and doing a lot of activity I do try to free up around 150mb, just incase) and if you happen to push the boundary it'll free up memory for you.
If you want to be able to kill more tasks get ATK (advanced task killer).
After what ive read android dont page memory the way computers do, when it runs out of working memory. Reason is lack of memory i guess. But with several gigabytes of memory in internal storage, whats the problem?
With winmo I had to share working memory with installed software (if not installing on sd).
robnil said:
With winmo I had to share working memory with installed software (if not installing on sd).
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No lah. Ram & rom, different.
my N1 is saying its running out of space. anyone runnin into a space issue too? what did u do? i dont think i have that many apps installed. i uninstalled the ones i didnt really need.
when i check SD Card/Phone storage settings, says my phone's internal storage available space is 19.07mb >.< is that low....
also, for gmail syncing, is it me or does it take like a while to sync...?
If you are running a custom rom try moving large apps like Flash to your SD card. Also clear your browser cache. Deleteing old sms's will help also.
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no custom rom. stock 2.2.1. moved what i can to SD. 32.75mb now =3
did you try removing browser cache?
removing browser cache was what increased it to 30 something mb =3 lol
is there any way to save text messages =3
Try this out for backing up SMS: code.google.com/p/android-sms/ (I can't post live links yet.)
SMS Backup & Restore from the Market
does it get saved on the sd or on the phone?
20mb is the limit for the low space warning.
removed some some unused apps again. now at avail space 48.70mb. is that good? what does everyone else have?
did the backup thing... went thru my 17k+ msgs since i got phone in august. xD
Everyone else mostly has custom ROMs with Apps2EXT, which equals pretty much unlimited space for apps.
???? apps2ext??
I hover around 25mb-30mb free space usually. I also have a bunch of games I could uninstall since I only every play maybe 3 of them.
Every time I got the low space warning it was from having way too many windows going in the browser.
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i close em tho =3
iandroo888 said:
???? apps2ext??
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[Sigh] Search is your friend...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715940
clear cache.. browser usually has 5mb or more.
move apps to SD; froyo style.
Hope that helps.
moved all i could over to sd. uninstalled whatever apps i could. cleared cache.
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
-edit-
I'm running Fresh 3.5.0.1 rom rooted and such
mastermarc said:
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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Maybe it's browser cache? Does the contacts storage also include text messages?
I've never used Apps2SD but if it works like the native 2.2 SD storage then it doesn't completely move apps to the SD card. I'm pretty sure that the App itself is stored in the internal storage and only non-essential data is moved to the SD card.
Nope already cleared browser caches.
SMS messages are under 5mb, (already had to fix that issue when having 3000+ messages started killing my sms program)
But whats weird about this whole thing is that it's not like i went on an app installing spree. I installed all these apps long ago and haven't messed with it much, then one day i get the low storage space issue.
try "disk usage" in the market. its free, and it should show you what's using all your free space.
dschoenike
Cool this works, shows:
Data
Applications 310MB
Contacts storage 157.3MB
System data 78MB
Free space 39MB
Guess i'll start digging through it
mastermarc said:
this is only good for your storage card.... Same thing i can do by plugging it into my computer.
I want the same thing but for internal memory
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really? when I use it, it shows storage card and application storage. sorry, thought that's what you were looking for (application storage I mean).
dschoenike
oh cool. glad its working for you.
Award Tour said:
I've never used Apps2SD but if it works like the native 2.2 SD storage then it doesn't completely move apps to the SD card. I'm pretty sure that the App itself is stored in the internal storage and only non-essential data is moved to the SD card.
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This seems to be the case, i've got (303MB-157contact storage=146MB) in "Applications" even though the apps2sd program only shows something like 76mb
57MB under "System Data" Anyone else know if this is reasonable?
Uninstalled a few apps, namely the video messenger add on for yahoo (until it goes down in size or i actually find someone to video chat with)
so i'm up to 66MB free...guess that will be ok for a while.
not sure whats normal regarding system data space, but I'm at 12.2mb, im running cm6.1. just an fyi cause I saw you were in the 50's.
mastermarc said:
So i started getting the low space error, and despite my efforts, i keep losing more space.
I first got the error with ~40mb of internal space left, and so i started uninstalling apps, doing searches on how to fix the issue, clearing cache etc. This brought me up to a whopping 50mb and the error went away.. For a night.
Then it came back, 43mb, and now that i look at it today i'm down to 39mb
So where the hell is my space going?
I've already moved all the apps that can be moved on the SD card with apps2sd, and i added up all the apps in the apps2sd program that says "phone only"
I get 76mb from apps,
+157mb contacts storage
=233mb used internal space
I'm looking for a program or something like "Jdiskreport" which allows you to graphically view your files based on their size, so you can find large files no matter where they are hiding instead of just randomly browsing through the root explorer.
When i open up manage applications here are my top space users
Contacts storage 157mb
Messenger voice and video 22.57mb (on sd card)
Adobe flash 10.9mb
Officesuite 8.7mb
RockPlayer 8.39mb (on sd card)
Handcent SMS 5.32mb
facebook 5.14mb
Then i have a bunch of >5mb programs, but many of them are on the sd card.
Anyone got any suggestions? I thought the evo had lots of space.
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I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd.
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I almost forgot to mention that you must be rooted and have a rom that supports it. I use myn's.
If your evo phone is root, there's an app in the market call install manager , you'll be able to install your app on the SD Card, with no problem.
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Sounds like you have a **** load of apps. I have like 20 right now but I have 350 MB of free space. I imagine I would have to have a hundred in order to be that low. However I am rooted and I got rid of most of the Sprint crap.
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lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
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I'm having the same issue. How does one move the dalvik to sd?
Swyped from my EVO
To enable dalvik to cache you must flash a rom that has that feature. I don't believe its possible with stock/non superuser (unrooted phone)
Swyped from a galaxy far far away......
lloydcabraham said:
I had the same problem until I used Darktremors a2sd and moved my Dalvik to sd also. The Dalvik is the reason that you're running out of space and the Froyo apps2sd does nothing for it. just remember to keep all apps using a widget on the phone instead of sd. I hover between 107 and 120mb free with 230 user apps and an additional 150 in system apps.
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Could you explain the part in bold? Anyway here is what i did and what my results were.
So since i have a rooted rom i went ahead and installed this via the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
Doing this alone brought me up to 81MB (from 39)
Then i followed the instructions for the command line interface of darktremors a2sd here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
I opened up terminal and typed in:
cachesd
-Moves Dalvik cache files to the ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your secure digital card. Creates Dalvik Cache to SD flag.
It immediately restarted and now it shows i'm up to 174MB available space
I booted back into the terminal and ran
/system/bin/a2sd check
I found an X next to one of the things about apps, so i ran the repair.
/system/bin/a2sd repair
It forced closed 2 apps and then restarted itself
At this point it went down to 130MB on reboot
Went back into a2sd and ran check again, the [X] on the apps part is now a [!]
So i ran
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall
Waited for that to do its thing, force closed something or other and then rebooted itself
Upon reboot i'm back up to 173MB free, rerunning a2sd check shows no [X]'s so that all looks good.
Everything seems to be working as of now with a good amount of free space so that's where i'm at.
If you move apps with widgets to the sd with apps to sd, the widgets won't load. You gotta leave those on the phone.
Are you using just the native froyo "move to sd" kind of functionality or are you using the DarkTremor's Apps2sd root functionality?
It sounds like you're just moving the apps that have that support moving to sd card, with the other method ANY app can be installed to your sd card.
mastermarc said:
Could you explain the part in bold? Anyway here is what i did and what my results were.
So since i have a rooted rom i went ahead and installed this via the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021325&postcount=2
Doing this alone brought me up to 81MB (from 39)
Then i followed the instructions for the command line interface of darktremors a2sd here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7021609&postcount=5
I opened up terminal and typed in:
cachesd
-Moves Dalvik cache files to the ext2/ext3/ext4 partition on your secure digital card. Creates Dalvik Cache to SD flag.
It immediately restarted and now it shows i'm up to 174MB available space
I booted back into the terminal and ran
/system/bin/a2sd check
I found an X next to one of the things about apps, so i ran the repair.
/system/bin/a2sd repair
It forced closed 2 apps and then restarted itself
At this point it went down to 130MB on reboot
Went back into a2sd and ran check again, the [X] on the apps part is now a [!]
So i ran
/system/bin/a2sd reinstall
Waited for that to do its thing, force closed something or other and then rebooted itself
Upon reboot i'm back up to 173MB free, rerunning a2sd check shows no [X]'s so that all looks good.
Everything seems to be working as of now with a good amount of free space so that's where i'm at.
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That's good. What I mean about the bold part is that anything you install will automatically go to the sd. If you create a widget or shortcut, upon reboot it probably won't show unless you do a hot boot. To avoid that, just go to settings, applications and move the app to phone and it should work fine.
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lloydcabraham said:
That's good. What I mean about the bold part is that anything you install will automatically go to the sd. If you create a widget or shortcut, upon reboot it probably won't show unless you do a hot boot. To avoid that, just go to settings, applications and move the app to phone and it should work fine.
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Ah sounds good, i can manage that when i run into the issue.
What have you done to your contacts to make them so huge? Custom high res pictures for everyone? 10,000 contacts? I have a decent amount of contacts with some customizations and it takes up <10mb. You're definitely losing a lot of space there...
Not really sure, i probably don't have more than 200 or so contacts, could have something to do with all the facebook pictures being synced in or something.
What's a good app to clean the cache and ram? Also how do you utilize the space on the phone using OneDrive. I have auto sync set up and i got the additional 100 gbs on OneDrive. I have always had a mem9ry card lol. Do I delete the pictures from the gallery once I take them because they are synced to OneDrive?
What cache are you talking about? Individual apps' caches can be cleared in stock settings, system cache can be cleared in recovery.
You shouldn't really ever have to worry about RAM, as Android does a fine job of managing it under normal circumstances.
Had some problems with ram aswell on the stock firmware. I used Clean Master to improve it
You have the stock app like smart manager, if you want another you can use SD Maid pro, is the best.
Clean master for me