Hello, I recently installed the above Android unit into my 2014 Mitsubishi EVO with Rockford system. It came with the can bus decoder MT-SS-03 for 2014 Outlander. I set everything up in the factory settings menu but I'm having a major audio problem that sadly is ruining an otherwise awesome experience.
If I listen to any music at high volume all system audio cuts out completely for 5-10 seconds at a time. I've found this problem is directly related to the volume. The louder it is, the quicker the audio will cut out. I've double and triple checked all wiring and pins, updated to the latest MCU 2.59, Android system (8-3-2017), etc.
I'm out of ideas on what to try next but hoping someone here can shine some light on the situation. Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting an end to this issue!
do you have proper canbus?
Yes I do, according to them. I did get a red one though which was labeled for 2014 Outlander which I understand to be the newer can box for 2014-2015 EVO but the pictures I've seen show a black box and mine was red but labeled as the newer one. I thought the older 2008-2013 units were red. Not sure if that makes a difference or not but I do have sound from all speakers so it works it just cuts out at high volume. However, the amplifier settings on the Android unit do respond a bit strange. The sub slider seems to change all speaker output and not the sub directly and has a pretty minimal effect. The fader seems right at least as far as the channels go.
In the meantime I did contact the seller on Amazon about the issue. They told me the issue is caused by the high power protection of the factory amplifier. To fix the issue they want me to re-install the factory radio, turn the volume sliders down to the "middle part" and then install the Android unit again. This seems a bit strange to me but it could be the factory radio interfaces with the amp in a different way and is able to control the gain of the sub and the Android unit cannot. With the newer Android unit I noticed the max volume is much louder so maybe I'm hitting some sort of over current protection causing the amp to momentarily shut down. Has anyone ever heard of this?
What I'm not sure about is when this procedure would be needed. Is it because I had the amp slider on factory unit is set too high before I removed it or is it because I disconnected the battery and the amp defaults to a higher setting that only the factory unit can adjust? It would be a real shame if every time power is cut from the amp I need to repeat the process. I fear that may be the case because I'm not sure the amp has an internal EPROM or non-volatile memory that's saving the settings and I did in fact disconnect the battery.
Either way I'll be happy to finally get to the bottom of the issue and I'm sure I'll find out whether or not I'll need to swap the radios again. Until then I'll keep the factory unit closeby. Luckily it's very easy to swap out so fingers crossed this fixes the problem. It's going to be a few days till I pull the radio out since I'm also waiting for a replacement USB harness since one of mine is inop due to a damaged wire.
Please let me know if anyone has any input about this. Thanks again.
Ditto - did you try swapping back and lowering the volume, if so, did it resolve the issue?
I have only had mine for 3 days, Dasiata HA2106-S720 with Dasaita CB003 Canbus harness in a 2013 Mitsubishi ASX with Rockford Fosgate. I would agree that the volume seems higher, so there could be some truth in the Sellers theory.
By the way my experience with Subwoofer control also matches yours - adjusting the lowest frequencies on the Graphic Equalizer seems to affect the main speakers more than the subwoofer, and I am not getting the same 'punchy' bass as the OEM Head Unit.
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Hello, I recently installed the above Android unit into my 2014 Mitsubishi EVO with Rockford system. It came with the can bus decoder MT-SS-03 for 2014 Outlander. I set everything up in the factory settings menu but I'm having a major audio problem that sadly is ruining an otherwise awesome experience.
If I listen to any music at high volume all system audio cuts out completely for 5-10 seconds at a time. I've found this problem is directly related to the volume. The louder it is, the quicker the audio will cut out. I've double and triple checked all wiring and pins, updated to the latest MCU 2.59, Android system (8-3-2017), etc.
I'm out of ideas on what to try next but hoping someone here can shine some light on the situation. Thanks in advance and looking forward to putting an end to this issue!
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You made also the Car Settings to work well ? Things like keyless operations, windshiel wipers operation, lights time out, auto fold mirror, etc ? Thanks.
Morning everyone.
I have been searching and trying but found nothing so far. I have a pumpkin head unit and have installed car launcher which is a great app. However on boot up the radio app starts automatically (quite loud too) but as it's the Mrs car she doesn't want the radio to load up first and as loud as it does. I have tried setting car launcher to load on start up but does not work as the radio app still does it. I have also tried numerous apps such as autostart but non of these apps find the radio or car launcher to select which one starts or disable one on start up.
Any advice would be appreciated on either getting the radio not to start or even able to select volume to be quieter on start up would also be advantageous.
Hope that makes sense.
Thank you in advance
Andy
With my headunit (not joying btw) I can go to Settings > Factory Settings > Enter Password (usually 126) > Audio (or similar) and can adjust audio for all sorts, example, Radio, GPS etc
Usually has a slider 1-10 (or 20) and just make the radio audio maybe 3 or so sliders down, or whatever suits you
But you might not have this "Factory Settings" option, but there might be something similar perhaps
I had to edit this way for my GPS, as the GPS voice was too quite compared to the Radio, so whilst the Headunit Radio was set at 15, the GPS was sooo quiet, so I went into these Audio settings and changed the slider on my GPS to almost max, and now the GPS is perfectly overpowering the Radio Voice , if that makes sense
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91-3WgSnB0k
This video shows the same steps for me, when he goes into Factory Settings , you'll be able to use "Voice" tab, that's where these audio sliders are
On Joying HU (hope on other brands too) there is a setting: at what volume should HU start. Hope this helps.
Unfortunately I can't find this setting at all. There is no factory setting at all. I have been into the sound and notifications settings too....hmm I'm at a pass really
An app called Startup Manager (free) works for me on my Joying.
Write up for Startup Manager (free) to disable the radio app from automatically starting after fresh boot.
Sticks after reboot for me. Radio app does not automatically start once set.
If I try the Startup Manager on my phone the DPI is way off and too small to read but it works fine on the headunit.
Once you start it, it's says there is a newer app with more features, but just hit the button to stay with this one and it works great.
It comes up with 3 tabs. User apps, system apps and custom. Be careful and don't click anything under the system tab unless you know exactly what it is. You could cause needed system apps not to load on reboot. Under system apps is where you find the radio app. Just click on the minus symbol beside the radio app and your good to go. If you want anything to automatically boot, you can add that under the custom tab.
Skinzaholic said:
An app called Startup Manager (free) works for me on my Joying.
Write up for Startup Manager (free) to disable the radio app from automatically starting after fresh boot.
Sticks after reboot for me. Radio app does not automatically start once set.
If I try the Startup Manager on my phone the DPI is way off and too small to read but it works fine on the headunit.
Once you start it, it's says there is a newer app with more features, but just hit the button to stay with this one and it works great.
It comes up with 3 tabs. User apps, system apps and custom. Be careful and don't click anything under the system tab unless you know exactly what it is. You could cause needed system apps not to load on reboot. Under system apps is where you find the radio app. Just click on the minus symbol beside the radio app and your good to go. If you want anything to automatically boot, you can add that under the custom tab.
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Thank you the response. I have tried that one as I've read it somewhere.. ..however for some reason the radio app doesn't appear on it which confused me alot!! Also tried the newer one it recommended just in case that one would work. But no success though
You cannot turn radio off at startup.
Run aux and next time you turn on the unit it goes to aux automatically instead of radio.
I have this same issue with both the new Xtrons 8.0 and an older 6.0 headunit. Even if the radio function is disabled through the factory settings page, it will then just start up in another function when it awakes from sleep (music/video/etc). It is absolutely maddening and Xtrons support has been useless. Have you found any workable solutions?
I own a Fünrover head-unit, running Android 6.
I have the same requirement: to stop FM radio app which is starting automatically, because I want to use DAB+ app instead.
Startup Manager (Free) does not show me Radio app in the system tab, but I have been able finally to stop it by auto-starting Video app with Startup Manager.
The only remaining problem is that Startup Manager is starting very lately (almost 1 minute after Radio app start)
Do you have any idea how i could change the boot order to speed up Startup Manager start?
Sorry to resurrect this thread. But this is literally the only thing that bugs me about the Joying unit I have. Has anybody had this issues and solved it? I've tried tasker(may not be setup properly, startup manager and a task killer. Damn radio app sets the volume to 15 everytime!
I'll send an email to Joying asking about this over the weekend. But would love any input.
Battery?
Hello, I have the same problem but not always.If it starts up with loud sound I have to power it off and on. Cant do anything els when the problem is there. Don,t know if it is the same problem like you have.
For what I know is that it's the car battery. When I drive not enough and have the radio eating battery more than it have charged, the power will be to low on the next time you start up the radio and I think the radio will not boot up right.
I,m going to upgrade my battery with some more amp and one that charges fast. Hope thate wil solve the problem.
These radio,s like to use battery when powered on.
Default volume
I have joying and to adjust start up volume I go to settings>car>extra settings>power on/off setting>default volume on-off have mine set at 5
My problem is a little different. The Radio app show on the screen after every startup instead of Home screen. i have to press a Home button every startup. Is there a way to override this? I still want to Radio to play, just not see the app on the foreground.
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Sorry to resurrect this thread. But this is literally the only thing that bugs me about the Joying unit I have. Has anybody had this issues and solved it? I've tried tasker(may not be setup properly, startup manager and a task killer. Damn radio app sets the volume to 15 everytime!
I'll send an email to Joying asking about this over the weekend. But would love any input.
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This question is asked again and again on this forum for all brands.
You can't stop this. Not on a Joying and not on any other unit. And note that the radio app is actually only an interface that forwards commands to and receives data from the radio chip via the MCU. It is not an active app like your mediaplayer that does everything in Android.
When the unit boots, the hardware is up and running long before Android is. That means that the radio chip and amplifier are already working before Android has even booted. That is why you hear the radio. And that is why every manufacturer starts the radio app on boot: to enable you to mute the radio channel from the app.
The radio is never switched off as it cannot be switched off. It is only muted.
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nile13mx5 said:
My problem is a little different. The Radio app show on the screen after every startup instead of Home screen. i have to press a Home button every startup. Is there a way to override this? I still want to Radio to play, just not see the app on the foreground.
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Update MTCU! Mine came with 2.78 en all above that solved my problem.
You can also check you're factory settings if you can disable going to last used app at startup.
If you need help/advise you can sent me a PM.
I'm thinking it may be a wiring issue. Is the blue amp/radio trigger wire on the aftermarket harness connected to amp/radio wire on the harness? If so, you might try splicing the blue wire into the 12V ACC wire on the harness. This would only turn the radio on after ignition on(its a switched wire) and power goes through the head unit - not first through the cars radio, then through the head unit... I believe it is a function to allow the radio to play even when key removed. But you can stop that by routing the trigger wire to a switched wire.
to prevent radio app start automatically go to the setting,
Andwat16 said:
Morning everyone.
I have been searching and trying but found nothing so far. I have a pumpkin head unit and have installed car launcher which is a great app. However on boot up the radio app starts automatically (quite loud too) but as it's the Mrs car she doesn't want the radio to load up first and as loud as it does. I have tried setting car launcher to load on start up but does not work as the radio app still does it. I have also tried numerous apps such as autostart but non of these apps find the radio or car launcher to select which one starts or disable one on start up.
Any advice would be appreciated on either getting the radio not to start or even able to select volume to be quieter on start up would also be advantageous.
Hope that makes sense.
Thank you in advance
Andy
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to prevent launch ,go to setting for andriod, for each app, like radio ,music ,launcher, ,go to setting ,change permissions, auto not allowed , over ride not allowed, then take out key of car,then try ,to start after lights of system go off, this may solve ,other wise try to prevent permissin of othe apps in similar way. basically to many app are given permission to launch so some app launch .check for each app.
This is a wiring issue. In some cars, like VW, following the wiring instructions provided in the manual makes the head unit losing the saved settings (e.g. saved radio stations) or the FM radio turning on automatically when you start the car. To resolve this kind of issues, change the position of two wires. On the head unit's socket: red wire goes to yellow wire's position, and yellow wire goes to red wire's position.
This is actually bothering me too.
The thing is , this was not aways this way, somehow i disabled the frequency that the stereo hardware operates and this never happened before, i could not use fm radio tho , but it didnt bothered me because i have a memory stick, but after i enable the function this has been an issue.. dont know how to fix this either... think i might disable the radio back again on the factory settings..
just got a joying , mine does the same after I've left the car off for a few days and it boots from scratch. Auto loads the radio. It's a android 8 single din. Any fix for this?
Hi all,
I posted this in the Joying forum but have had no success so figured I'd try my luck here too.
I just installed a Joying JY-VQ131N4GN Android 10 unit with newest firmware shipped into my '14 VW Passat with Fender Audio. Here are some of the issues I am running into and hope other people that may have experienced/solved these problems can help. I purchased the Can bus option for my vehicle and it was supposed to be plug and play.
1. Rear speaker output is very low for all output types (radio, android auto, BT audio, etc.). When fader setting is moved all the way to the rear, I get no sound at all from the rears. I don't know if this is due to the headunit or the Fender DSP located in the car's amp. I messed with the volume balance in the factory menu but I didnt notice any difference. I ordered a 12v bench tester and will test the speaker outs directly from the headunit soon.
2. The Joying supplied BT Music app/shortcut sends you to the BT phone app when used in a launcher. Sometimes it does this even when using the native launcher/UI.
3. I am unable to set custom steering wheel control buttons within the unit. It says to "hold down button to learn" or something like that but when I hit (and hold) any button it just does what the original button normally does (I am trying to change the phone button on the steering wheel to play/pause).
4. Hand brake sensor is backwards, when the handbrake is off, the headunit says it is activated and vice versa.
5. The unit won't switch from Celsius to Fahrenheit even after changing it in the setting menu. However, car launcher pro does allow switching to Fahrenheit but the top of the screen still reads Celsius regardless.
Chief Underverse said:
Hi all,
I posted this in the Joying forum but have had no success so figured I'd try my luck here too.
I just installed a Joying JY-VQ131N4GN Android 10 unit with newest firmware shipped into my '14 VW Passat with Fender Audio. Here are some of the issues I am running into and hope other people that may have experienced/solved these problems can help. I purchased the Can bus option for my vehicle and it was supposed to be plug and play.
1. Rear speaker output is very low for all output types (radio, android auto, BT audio, etc.). When fader setting is moved all the way to the rear, I get no sound at all from the rears. I don't know if this is due to the headunit or the Fender DSP located in the car's amp. I messed with the volume balance in the factory menu but I didnt notice any difference. I ordered a 12v bench tester and will test the speaker outs directly from the headunit soon.
2. The Joying supplied BT Music app/shortcut sends you to the BT phone app when used in a launcher. Sometimes it does this even when using the native launcher/UI.
3. I am unable to set custom steering wheel control buttons within the unit. It says to "hold down button to learn" or something like that but when I hit (and hold) any button it just does what the original button normally does (I am trying to change the phone button on the steering wheel to play/pause).
4. Hand brake sensor is backwards, when the handbrake is off, the headunit says it is activated and vice versa.
5. The unit won't switch from Celsius to Fahrenheit even after changing it in the setting menu. However, car launcher pro does allow switching to Fahrenheit but the top of the screen still reads Celsius regardless.
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Looking to get this exact head unit. Did you ever overcome these issues?
Hey there.
I recently bought a Navpro Octacore (TS18) Android head unit from Aliexpress and I was wondering if I can set a default startup volume.
IE: If turn off the car while in volume 15 and start the car again, the volume starts at 8 (predefined).
There's no option in the sound settings section and I couldn't find any thing related entering in dev or engineering modes (123456 / 8888 / 7890+hour).
The odd thing is that I own two old Android Head Units that have this option.
Does anyone know where can I set this value?
Thanks.
lbraniak said:
Hey there.
I recently bought a Navpro Octacore (TS18) Android head unit from Aliexpress and I was wondering if I can set a default startup volume.
IE: If turn off the car while in volume 15 and start the car again, the volume starts at 8 (predefined).
There's no option in the sound settings section and I couldn't find any thing related entering in dev or engineering modes (123456 / 8888 / 7890+hour).
The odd thing is that I own two old Android Head Units that have this option.
Does anyone know where can I set this value?
Thanks.
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Hi.
I have similar TS18 unit but Topway, my unit remebers last know state of unit prior to shutdown (with sound volume remembered last used).
Problem is with this devices that they don't have any extra settings (not that I know of yet) to adjust sound volumes (also same thing is with navi app when mixing with radio or USB music - volume is too low when mixing with radio).
If this can help.... I solved my sound issues in sound menu of car settings - deactivated "inteligent" sound mixing and set "third party" software for sound control. Next, in some menu I don't remember where in car settings there is a option for keeping unit up for 10 min or more, deactivated that also (when deactivated unit instantly shuts down and saves units last state in memory/cache). Those helped me with a few problems with this unit.
Also, I updated system to the latest (connected wifi or 4G internet needed for update sytem and MCU online) - maybe it will help your system - maybe it's only a system glitch.
Hope this written will help you.
Try, play with unit.
And keep us informed if worked.