Hey guys, Ive noticed that older devices like oneplus 5t and newer devices like oneplus 7 have better developer support . However, OP6T does not seem to get such love from the devs. Why is that so??
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80538403&postcount=3533
I'll do my best to explain my understanding:
In this current month, OnePlus is pushing out two new phones (7T and 7T Pro) and working on supporting the smart TV they just released in India. The OnePlus 6T is not their primary focus by any standard. They're busy keeping the 7 and 7T series as current as possible to push their sales. I'm not a software developer, and I don't know how big OnePlus' development team is, nor do I know what they're tasked with. I was eager to experience Android 10 on the 6T myself, but the newer devices come first in terms of software support. That's part of the reason why you don't see development moving along very quickly. For the 6T, we don't have official Android 10-based firmware or proper sources to build with. What kinda development is gonna pop up when you have no sources to work with? Not much, I'll tell ya that.
I think op is asking about custom rom support and if so there is one simple answer. There is no need because oos is THAT GOOD! Put that in your survey. And as far as custom roms go the OP 6T has quite a few good choices when compared to the 7 which has almost zero.
Short answer? It's almost a year old. In the "smartphone" world...that's old
Indisplay FP was a massive hold up on top of their quick model releases hence op6 having more options
Hi, I'm just sign in to say calm down, guys, android 10 will officially come this month, check the oneplus telegram channel. Why is this late? 3 reasons here:
Oneplus 7
Oneplus 7t (yes, newer devices always come first when it is about updates)
officially claimed errors in developing the ROM and they don't want to release a piece of sh** as other manufacturers do in order to rush updates --> they want to release an update that can give us that buttery smooth user experienxe we all got used to
Maybe this is a little shortsighted, but I think the wiping the entire device and losing your data thing scares a lot of people away from switching back and forth on this phone and probably slowed the demand down for more custom ROMs. It's very time consuming and easy to screw up if you don't do it all the time. The slow data speed of the USB-c port also plays a role in how slow it is to back up stuff to your PC and then load everything back up after.
I know other OP phones have this issue too, but combine that with the fingerprint problem and the quick release of OP phones since the 6t came out, I think you have a perfect storm of people just happy enough with OOS, and maybe jumping to the beta program.
Having come from a lot of other phone brands in the past, there is a lot less clamoring for certain custom ROMs because people actually like OOS, versus whatever Samsung, LG, or HTC put out in years past. Just my opinion though.
Google implementation is not always the best Devs try to do the best but sometimes things not help in this case the encryption by hardware plus partitions a/b and the massive headache for most people and devs trying to make things a lot easier for example look here OP6T Custom Roms everyone has different flashing instructions……make sense? And maybe One Plus is to pay the Google failures implementing things that in the long run need be reverted well this is my opinion in Android world
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Maybe this is a little shortsighted, but I think the wiping the entire device and losing your data thing scares a lot of people away from switching back and forth on this phone and probably slowed the demand down for more custom ROMs. It's very time consuming and easy to screw up if you don't do it all the time. The slow data speed of the USB-c port also plays a role in how slow it is to back up stuff to your PC and then load everything back up after.
I know other OP phones have this issue too, but combine that with the fingerprint problem and the quick release of OP phones since the 6t came out, I think you have a perfect storm of people just happy enough with OOS, and maybe jumping to the beta program.
Having come from a lot of other phone brands in the past, there is a lot less clamoring for certain custom ROMs because people actually like OOS, versus whatever Samsung, LG, or HTC put out in years past. Just my opinion though.
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I personally hate OOS - crappy UI and battery guzzler.
I cant change fonts , no theme support etc without root unlike many manufacturers like Huawei and Samsung.
Plus, the so called "speed" is not there on my phone - stock oos is laggy af
The only custom ROM that seems to work in a stable fashion (except fingerprints) is cr droid - other roms dont seem to work and always fail to install on my Oneplus 6T.
I regret buying this phone - i had the oneplus one earlier and it still has better rom support despite being obsolete.
I shall never buy a OnePlus again - maybe Samsung or Huawei it is for the next time..
chcheetah said:
I personally hate OOS - crappy UI and battery guzzler.
I cant change fonts , no theme support etc without root unlike many manufacturers like Huawei and Samsung.
Plus, the so called "speed" is not there on my phone - stock oos is laggy af
The only custom ROM that seems to work in a stable fashion (except fingerprints) is cr droid - other roms dont seem to work and always fail to install on my Oneplus 6T.
I regret buying this phone - i had the oneplus one earlier and it still has better rom support despite being obsolete.
I shall never buy a OnePlus again - maybe Samsung or Huawei it is for the next time..
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I have to respectfully disagree. I know everyone's experience is their own and all have varying opinions on software.
However, OOS is highly regarded as one of the best "stock" Android operating systems on the market. It's very close to vanilla Android as what the pixel devices run. I've been a Nexus/pixel user since the Nexus 5 and left the Google line to check out this whole OnePlus hype that came with a smaller price tag.
I regret nothing about purchasing this phone. OOS is phenomenal. It's basically vanilla Android with subtle improvements in the UI that just make sense and create a more fluid experience without thinking about it. The RAM on this phone is ridiculous and has a ton of speed. My pixel use to get hot all the time with intense use....I can't remember the last time my 6t heated up on me (keep in mind I don't game on my phone).
As for third party development, I think we have it pretty good. There's at least 5 stable custom ROMs to choose from and hell I lost count on the kernels. I'm running skydragon ROM and easily push over 7hrs of SOT daily. Easily change system fonts and colors.
Not to mention edXposed is a thing now. You can run Xposed on stock OOS install gravity box (the king of themeing) and make your phone look ENTIRELY different.
All I'm trying to say is, we have it pretty damn good. I'll be running and crack flashing this phone for at least another year.
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I have to respectfully disagree. I know everyone's experience is their own and all have varying opinions on software.
However, OOS is highly regarded as one of the best "stock" Android operating systems on the market. It's very close to vanilla Android as what the pixel devices run. I've been a Nexus/pixel user since the Nexus 5 and left the Google line to check out this whole OnePlus hype that came with a smaller price tag.
I regret nothing about purchasing this phone. OOS is phenomenal. It's basically vanilla Android with subtle improvements in the UI that just make sense and create a more fluid experience without thinking about it. The RAM on this phone is ridiculous and has a ton of speed. My pixel use to get hot all the time with intense use....I can't remember the last time my 6t heated up on me (keep in mind I don't game on my phone).
As for third party development, I think we have it pretty good. There's at least 5 stable custom ROMs to choose from and hell I lost count on the kernels. I'm running skydragon ROM and easily push over 7hrs of SOT daily. Easily change system fonts and colors.
Not to mention edXposed is a thing now. You can run Xposed on stock OOS install gravity box (the king of themeing) and make your phone look ENTIRELY different.
All I'm trying to say is, we have it pretty damn good. I'll be running and crack flashing this phone for at least another year.
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Well maybe your phone won the silicon lottery- cuz my phone doesn't seem to be as fast as its competition.
I have the 8 gig ram model - just below the McLaren edition. It has had issues from the time I've bought it - constant lag , overheating while on oos.
I took.it.for diagnosis to oneplus service centre - they had no clue as to what was happening!
Then, what i decided to.do was to search for custom ROMs . I found that there were no stable ROMs and i had to bear the stock rom till i found a semi stable build of cr droid. What i feel is that ever since oneplus has released this specific phone, they have gone lax on software and have stopped actually innovating (not in terms of hardware, in terms of their initial outreach for solid budget friendly nexus esque devices that have unfortunately imo now bloated into the expensive POS gimmicks they sell now.)
Just in case you want to know what oos i had , i had oos 9.0.10. I couldn't even play any YouTube or audio, forget phonecalls.
But that might not.be the case for you - chinese phones tend to follow this trend of lottery and maybe the way people use their phones varies.
Haha, there is plenty of development. Those talking about Huawei and Samsung, buy one of their new phones and see how much development there is....
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Haha, there is plenty of development. Those talking about Huawei and Samsung, buy one of their new phones and see how much development there is....
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Atleast their phones can play youtube on stock rom ha ha
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Well maybe your phone won the silicon lottery- cuz my phone doesn't seem to be as fast as its competition.
I have the 8 gig ram model - just below the McLaren edition. It has had issues from the time I've bought it - constant lag , overheating while on oos.
I took.it.for diagnosis to oneplus service centre - they had no clue as to what was happening!
Then, what i decided to.do was to search for custom ROMs . I found that there were no stable ROMs and i had to bear the stock rom till i found a semi stable build of cr droid. What i feel is that ever since oneplus has released this specific phone, they have gone lax on software and have stopped actually innovating (not in terms of hardware, in terms of their initial outreach for solid budget friendly nexus esque devices that have unfortunately imo now bloated into the expensive POS gimmicks they sell now.)
Just in case you want to know what oos i had , i had oos 9.0.10. I couldn't even play any YouTube or audio, forget phonecalls.
But that might not.be the case for you - chinese phones tend to follow this trend of lottery and maybe the way people use their phones varies.
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Hi, McLaren user here.
Before buying this device I was using Pixel 2XL, my 6T destroys it completely in performance, I know 835 vs 845 isn't a fair comparison, but the difference is too much to blame the processor, a thing as simple as taking a picture is an extremely slow process in my Pixel because when I open the camera app I have to wait 3-4 seconds to take the picture (The app opens, but the viewfinder is black and the shutter button can't be pressed) while with this device it's: open the camera and the app is ready to take the picture, and the performance in general (Transitions, apps opening, etc, etc) is much better on this device, I don't remember having lag or some kind of slowdown on this device (You should never say never, but I think that this case could be an exception), I'm not a "light" user, I use my device for work, studies and life in general.
I only remember one episode of overheating and it was my fault (Summer, the device was charging and I had the great idea of playing asfalt 8, yes you can call me dumb lol). Maybe it's a hardware problem? It seems too strange to me, I know many people with this device and the only problems in common are: The terrible memory management that OOS does, and the quality of the camera.
Regarding custom roms: for almost two months I was using AOSIP 9 + Neutrino, and I was very happy, I even had the feeling that the fingerprint sensor worked better in that rom than in OOS and the memory management great (A huge amount of apps loaded in memory without any problem, that was a pleasure), a week ago I flashed AOSIP 10 and I was quite surprised, obviously it was not as stable as 9 but I was expecting something worse sincerely, I went back to OOS because the safetynet failed and I use Google Pay quite often, but ignoring that problem I think I could use it as a daily driver without major problems.
I think my comments seem very pro-OnePlus but my experience with this device is very good, and as I said before I find the problems you have very strange, maybe you should send the device to OnePlus again, saying that you have some super strange problem or something so so weird like: hey, my device starts lagging and then shuts down randomly, I don't know, maybe you are lucky and they send you a new one.
Edit: Answering the main thread question:
The OnePlus 6 had many users, and the 6 > 6T change was not a great evolution, then the 7 and 7Pro were released, so many switched to that device.
In addition, the on-screen fingerprint sensor was something new, Android did not support it natively and each OEM opted for its own implementation, OnePlus made a somewhat strange implementation by calling it somehow, phhusson did reverse engineering of the Xiaomi HAL and made great contributions to this device, that helped a lot, but perhaps those contributions came too late, OnePlus 7 was very close to being launched and many people were waiting for it to make the swtich.
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Hi, McLaren user here.
Before buying this device I was using Pixel 2XL, my 6T destroys it completely in performance, I know 835 vs 845 isn't a fair comparison, but the difference is too much to blame the processor, a thing as simple as taking a picture is an extremely slow process in my Pixel, and the performance in general (Transitions, apps opening, etc, etc) is much better on this device, I don't remember having lag or some kind of slowdown on this device (You should never say never, but I think that this case could be an exception), I'm not a "light" user, I use my device for work, studies and life in general.
I only remember one episode of overheating and it was my fault (Summer, the device was charging and I had the great idea of playing asfalt 8, yes you can call me dumb lol). Maybe it's a hardware problem? It seems too strange to me, I know many people with this device and the only problems in common are: The terrible memory management that OOS does, and the quality of the camera.
Regarding custom roms: for almost two months I was using AOSIP 9 + Neutrino, and I was very happy, I even had the feeling that the fingerprint sensor worked better in that rom than in OOS and the memory management great (A huge amount of apps loaded in memory without any problem, that was a pleasure), a week ago I flashed AOSIP 10 and I was quite surprised, obviously it was not as stable as 9 but I was expecting something worse sincerely, I went back to OOS because the safetynet failed and I use Google Pay quite often, but ignoring that problem I think I could use it as a daily driver without major problems.
I think my comments seem very pro-OnePlus but my experience with this device is very good, and as I said before I find the problems you have very strange, maybe you should send the device to OnePlus again, saying that you have some super strange problem or something so so weird like: hey, my device starts lagging and then shuts down randomly, I don't know, maybe you are lucky and they send you a new one.
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Hmm your suggestion sounds right - lemme try contacting the OnePlus service centre again.
I honestly love the look and feel of the OnePlus 6T ( i have the mirror black- almost similar to McLaren except for the lack of orange shimmer) but the constant lag and overheating made me write such a negative view of the device.
Plus , sadly the dev scene is not so hot as their older phone ( Remember OnePlus One - how cool the modding scene was for that phone )
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Hi guys, so i heard a lot about the one plus one last year and din't buy it because i know that one plus two will be much better .! but i see some people saying that
1. There device is getting overheated real quick with just a 30 mins of gaming ( which is a deal breaker for me cause i do a lot of gaming )
2. They say that the cpu is underclocked at 1.8ghz to reduce the heating issue but is it still heating at that clock speed ?
3. Wile its throttling they say that they are facing a huge lag in gaming and even in normal usage ( is that true? )
4. Ok lets keep Gaming a side is the phone getting heated wile normal to heavy usage ? which mean just browsing continuously and other stuff for a 2hrs or soo..! except gaming
5. And i heard some people saying their fingerprint scanner stopped working, i heard a lot of issues with this phone are they really true according to your personal usage ?
BTW is the speaker loud enough to be heard in a noisy street ..! and is the in call voice quality is good enough to be heard in traffic
Hope you people will help me :good:
I haven't had any issues since I switched to hydrogen OS. Phone runs cool during normal tasks and only seems to get warm during gaming but I have not experienced any lag or fingerprint issues
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I haven't had any issues since I switched to hydrogen OS. Phone runs cool during normal tasks and only seems to get warm during gaming but I have not experienced any lag or fingerprint issues
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Thanks ,
So you might have used oxygen os for a wile atleast , can please share your experience with that rom.! just because i prefer stock android , so i'm probably not gonna use hydrogen os
It was less smooth. Games and heating were not an issue but everything seemed to kind of lag from time to time. On H2OS all of those issues are corrected and I've never had a smoother experience. It's not stock but if you flash it root it and clean up the Chinese bloat and use trebuchet launcher or Google launcher it feels somewhat stock. O2OS isn't terrible but its not as polished as H2OS in my opinion
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It was less smooth. Games and heating were not an issue but everything seemed to kind of lag from time to time. On H2OS all of those issues are corrected and I've never had a smoother experience. It's not stock but if you flash it root it and clean up the Chinese bloat and use trebuchet launcher or Google launcher it feels somewhat stock. O2OS isn't terrible but its not as polished as H2OS in my opinion
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Thanks once again , i'm gonna buy this, Ofc i should wait for an invite LOL..! :laugh:
Btw is that lag noticeable on oxygen os anything like huge stutter and stuff like that
Pm me for invite code
Don't buy this phone. You are better of with the motorola pure or style. This phone laggs, mediocre battery and very poor camera. All this on the stock version of this phone oxygenos. Don't try other stock android roms because you will lose most features, fingerscanner and laserfocus etc etc.. Even the notification slider has little to no use for me. You better think twice before buying this device. This is nothing like the oneplus one.
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bartjeh1991 said:
Don't buy this phone. You are better of with the motorola pure or style. This phone laggs, mediocre battery and very poor camera. All this on the stock version of this phone oxygenos. Don't try other stock android roms because you will lose most features, fingerscanner and laserfocus etc etc.. Even the notification slider has little to no use for me. You better think twice before buying this device. This is nothing like the oneplus one.
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Does It lag .......!!! but why the hell it lags i don't understand i saw many people like you saying this .! it got such a good specs and its lags may be one plus should do something for this
I really like my Oneplus 2, but if I had the choice/money would definitely go for the Nexus 6P.
IMO, the Oneplus 2 is a good phone, feels really well built, and my experience of OxygenOS certainly hasn't been as bad as some people's. The camera is pretty good; not amazing, but it's the best phone camera I've had so far, having never owned a 'proper' flagship (not just a so-called 'flagship killer')
My main reason for choosing the Nexus would be the updates. You'll always get the latest version of Android, and the software updates will be reliable. Oneplus don't seem in any rush to release OxygenOS 2 for the Oneplus One, and I wonder if that will be the case for the Two when the next generation is out. I'm hoping CM start officially supporting the Two, as I'd ditch Oxygen in a flash, if you'll excuse the pun.
But yeah, it's definitely good value.
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I really like my Oneplus 2, but if I had the choice/money would definitely go for the Nexus 6P.
IMO, the Oneplus 2 is a good phone, feels really well built, and my experience of OxygenOS certainly hasn't been as bad as some people's. The camera is pretty good; not amazing, but it's the best phone camera I've had so far, having never owned a 'proper' flagship (not just a so-called 'flagship killer')
My main reason for choosing the Nexus would be the updates. You'll always get the latest version of Android, and the software updates will be reliable. Oneplus don't seem in any rush to release OxygenOS 2 for the Oneplus One, and I wonder if that will be the case for the Two when the next generation is out. I'm hoping CM start officially supporting the Two, as I'd ditch Oxygen in a flash, if you'll excuse the pun.
But yeah, it's definitely good value.
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N6p is good..!! i mean not good the best ...! but i don't want to spend that much money for a phone which i use for a year or so ..! i really like op2 but heard some people having crazy issues so i stopped buying that for the time being and wanted know more about it ..! i just wanna ask one final thing and end this up does it really get too hot ? does it lag ? and if it heats up how much temperature you've noticed ? i hope you are on the latest oxygen os if so, suggest based on that ..!
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N6p is good..!! i mean not good the best ...! but i don't want to spend that much money for a phone which i use for a year or so ..! i really like op2 but heard some people having crazy issues so i stopped buying that for the time being and wanted know more about it ..! i just wanna ask one final thing and end this up does it really get too hot ? does it lag ? and if it heats up how much temperature you've noticed ? i hope you are on the latest oxygen os if so, suggest based on that ..!
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Pay no attention to the trolls. This is a great device. Have had mine about a month. On oxygen and latest Boeffla kernel. Never had the phone feel hot to the touch or noticed any lag whatsoever. Camera is great. Battery easily lasts the whole day with my usage. Usually at least 4-5 hours sot. Just pull the trigger you won't regret it
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In my opinion if you want NFC and good software support ,spend more and get a Nexus. If not, you can save your money and get a Oneplus two.
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N6p is good..!! i mean not good the best ...! but i don't want to spend that much money for a phone which i use for a year or so ..! i really like op2 but heard some people having crazy issues so i stopped buying that for the time being and wanted know more about it ..! i just wanna ask one final thing and end this up does it really get too hot ? does it lag ? and if it heats up how much temperature you've noticed ? i hope you are on the latest oxygen os if so, suggest based on that ..!
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Personally I had lag on oxygen OS but with hydrogen OS it is the smoothest device I've had. Camera is above average to good. But some people don't seem to have any lag. It's worth the money.
Thnak you for all of you finally i decided to buy one ..!
AK kernel seems to do something about the lagg, so it's mostly software bugs. Anyways the sony sensor on the OP2 is really not that good. So much noise.. I really can't stand it.
The OP2 is a good, solid phone.... But, it's not the "Flagship killer" I was hoping for.
>>I'm not a gamer, so I haven't noticed it getting overly hot (like my M9 did) with normal use (same processor).
>>I haven't experienced any lag watching videos, listening to music while running any other apps...It's very snappy.
>>I don't have any issues with the fingerprint scanner/home button. I had the Galaxy S6 for a short time before the OP2.... They seem about the same as far as how many times they actually read my fingerprint vs not. Like any phone, after a few days, using the home button becomes 2nd nature. I do have trouble with my left hand (usually use my right) and when it's charging , the home button can be a little less sensitive (grounding issue while charging??).
>>The speaker is not as loud as the past few phones I've had, but that doesn't mean it's too quiet. Just make sure "Audio Tuner" is enabled, this helps push the volume up and makes the speaker sound much better (has an EQ).
>>The OS is still pretty buggy.. I have to restart more than with my other phones in the past. But it's usually minor things, but sometimes I have to boot into "safe mode" to get certain functions to work again (like the clear all recent apps). After doing this, you have to set a few apps up again and some of the default notifications pop back up.
I think as the months go by, the OS will become more stable and these won't be issues any more.
I've got a Nexus 6P on order and will be selling my OP2 as soon as it gets here. I just like the front speakers better, plus there will be better development on the Nexus device. It already has a couple 100% functioning ROMs and has only been out about a week. I suspect in a month, there will be quite a few to choose from.
.....But, for what you pay for the OP2, it's well worth it and is better than most other phones on the market now that cost twice as much. So it is a good buy IMO.
Just my input and $.02 worth
That's a nice outcome... Although this is the OPT forum almost anybody chooses the nexus 6p. That's why I like xda over other forums, no fanboys but honest opinions. (Mostly)
I would definitely buy a 6p if I didn't own a OPT already...:-/
I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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You could have just looked at the ROM section of the forum to find your answer. We currently have one CM ROM, and it's not "perfectly working". It's a WIP.
You should buy the OnePlus 3T. The dev community for the Axon7 won't ever be as big as OP, and it seems that's what you care about.
Hola
I was interested in this A7 since it was announced earlier this year due to the amazing hardware and audio capabilities.
Fast forward 3 months or so since I have it, I can say that it delivers on the hardware in most aspects. The issues with this phone in my experience:
1. Camera ain't the best but just ok. Don't consider this phone if camera is important to you.
2. The hardware capacitive buttons are too close together and up to now it is tough to use the back and recents. This can somewhat be managed by using on screen navigation buttons which is available from one of our kind Devs who added it to a stock firmware based ROM.
3. There is no minute vibration controls. It is either on or off. On simply provides a hard, and relatively long vibration, annoying when typing. Yes you can turn it off on your keyboard but I still prefer it on regardless.
4. The single biggest issue for me is the lack of stable third party ROMs like RR, Pure Nexus, multiROM, DU, and the like. Also no full kernel is available yet - I see a Dev was able to provide 1 kernel but it is a work in progress and for that we are most grateful to the Dev. Another Dev, Unjustified Dev, took the time and effort to provide us an instance of CM13.1 but it has major issues with audio and mic. We know that Unjustified Dev has put a lot of time into trying to get the audio working better but due to the proprietary drivers related to audio it is also a work in progress. A few others have been trying to also help but mic is still iffy at this point. So if third party ROMs are your thing then this ain't a phone worthy of your money.
5. So frustrated I was with the initial lack of stable third party ROMs that I went ahead and purchased the OnePlus 3T, man that brand can attract Devs. I used the OnePlus for a few weeks but because I missed the dual front facing speakers of the A7, I went back. By this time another Dev was able to provide a very stable stock firmware based ROM with a few additional tweaks while keeping the audio features intact. I now use the A7 with Xposed and it is now OK. I am still hoping that our brilliant Devs will be able to get us a stable CM instance and I know they are still sacrificing time and effort into trying to provide us something.
6. I go back occasionally to my 3T to play with the latest iterations of some custom ROMs, but audio is the missing feature on the 3T.
Hope this helps you. I can't really pronounce on the other items you raised.
Get the A7 ... Great hardware & software improves (literally) daily!
OP3(T) has poor carrier support in the US. US model of Axon 7 is better tailored to US networks.
The Axon 7 is due to get an upgrade to Nougat in January 2017. I'm sure there will be many fixes to known problems that come with it.
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Hola
I was interested in this A7 since it was announced earlier this year due to the amazing hardware and audio capabilities.
Fast forward 3 months or so since I have it, I can say that it delivers on the hardware in most aspects. The issues with this phone in my experience:
1. Camera ain't the best but just ok. Don't consider this phone if camera is important to you.
2. The hardware capacitive buttons are too close together and up to now it is tough to use the back and recents. This can somewhat be managed by using on screen navigation buttons which is available from one of our kind Devs who added it to a stock firmware based ROM.
3. There is no minute vibration controls. It is either on or off. On simply provides a hard, and relatively long vibration, annoying when typing. Yes you can turn it off on your keyboard but I still prefer it on regardless.
4. The single biggest issue for me is the lack of stable third party ROMs like RR, Pure Nexus, multiROM, DU, and the like. Also no full kernel is available yet - I see a Dev was able to provide 1 kernel but it is a work in progress and for that we are most grateful to the Dev. Another Dev, Unjustified Dev, took the time and effort to provide us an instance of CM13.1 but it has major issues with audio and mic. We know that Unjustified Dev has put a lot of time into trying to get the audio working better but due to the proprietary drivers related to audio it is also a work in progress. A few others have been trying to also help but mic is still iffy at this point. So if third party ROMs are your thing then this ain't a phone worthy of your money.
5. So frustrated I was with the initial lack of stable third party ROMs that I went ahead and purchased the OnePlus 3T, man that brand can attract Devs. I used the OnePlus for a few weeks but because I missed the dual front facing speakers of the A7, I went back. By this time another Dev was able to provide a very stable stock firmware based ROM with a few additional tweaks while keeping the audio features intact. I now use the A7 with Xposed and it is now OK. I am still hoping that our brilliant Devs will be able to get us a stable CM instance and I know they are still sacrificing time and effort into trying to provide us something.
6. I go back occasionally to my 3T to play with the latest iterations of some custom ROMs, but audio is the missing feature on the 3T.
Hope this helps you. I can't really pronounce on the other items you raised.
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Thanks. Fortunately I don't care much about camera quality. With dev stuff really I can get by as long as I can root it and have at least a stockish rom that completely works.
One thing I do like now is the ability to customize the notification LED to change colors based on different things. Would this be possible with this device?
It really infuriates me that almost all devices come out with one mono speaker. It seems like stereo speakers of any kind at least should be standard at this point. Then again I'm one who wishes these phones had physical keyboards because After seven or whatever years I still can't type worth a crap on a screen.
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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Not sure what to believe. I have also heard that OP has the worst support and ZTE's is better. I've never had any problem with any phone or needed any support really outside of me messing stuff up with rooting etc.
I saw one review from August talking about the A7's great power management. Are you saying that no longer works?
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ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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The Axon 7 has a 2 year warranty vs. 1 for the OP3T so the support argument is not clear-cut.
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The Axon 7 has a 2 year warranty vs. 1 for the OP3T so the support argument is not clear-cut.
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We are clearly talking about a different type of support.
Anyways, in my country I dont have neither OnePlus nor ZTE support so I really dont care about warranty.
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I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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I am the same as you. Personally I don't think CM adds much compared to stock providing you already use a different launcher. I personally use blinkfeed launcher from HTC on all my phones (and it has custom theming) and I can tell you that with that I don't need any other ROM as I feel the settings menu on the Axon 7 is great. Initially the software had some mild annoyances but with the latest update I am perfectly happy (and nougat update should fix the last remaining issues in January based on what ZTE said).
I think the OP3T is also a strong device, but you would be trading off gorgeous QHD display and amazing sound with slightly better battery life, which I personally don't use, since the Axon 7 charges in 70 min.
Personally I don't feel it makes sense to buy a full HD device going into 2017, as I want to be able to use good quality VR. Also on AMOLED displays which have a pentile screen arrangement 1080p is more like 900p in terms of sharpness. QHD look more like 1200p.
The only case where I would recommend the OP3T is if you are a non VR hard-core gamer and need extra performance as 1080p display can help squeeze more performance, but in most games the difference won't be that noticeable.
yamils said:
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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I completely agree with this guy. I'm blown away by how poorly ZTE have managed things, and their support is borderline non-existent. If the 1080p screen of the OP3/T wasn't a borderline deal breaker for me (VR) I would have attempted to return this phone. If I had to pick a phone right now I'd buy a OP3T, and that's even considering that the DAC on the A7 is a big deal for me which leads me to my next point...
You say the DAC is a big deal for you, well I should let you know that the Hi-Fi DAC it doesn't seem to work in anything but ZTE's default app which is absolute trash with less than bare-bones functionality and it's very buggy.
Edit: I forgot to clarify one point; why "1080p" is so pixelated for VR. It's because AMOLED panels are advertised as false resolutions due to a legal loophole; there isn't legal standard. They use a pentile pattern meaning they have 1/3rd less subpixels, and as much as Samsung's engineers will tell you that it effectively looks the same to the human eye, it absolutely does not, even at extreme density such as "1080p" on a 5.1" display, or even "1440p" on this 5.5" display. On flat colours I can see the pentile pattern.
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We are clearly talking about a different type of support.
Anyways, in my country I dont have neither OnePlus nor ZTE support so I really dont care about warranty.
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For me warranty is a decision factor. The fact that ZTE offer 2 year warranty even for unlocked devices is a plus, even if I don't feel a need to unlock right now. The fact that Nougat update will be very fast coming already in January is also a plus.
Only if you are in the US, consider the Axon 7. Anywhere else, including the US, OnePlus is a reliable option.
People complain about the ZTE software. I love it. Had it for 3 days and no complaints. I live outside the US and it works fine on our 4G networks in Trinidad.
The screen and the speakers are two things the Axon 7 trumps over the OP3T. And a visual and listening experience to me is reason enough to get this phone over any other. amoled 1440p and front facing stereo speakers PLUS memory card support and a great battery? Its a no brainer, get this phone
^ I've never really had much of an issue with the cosmetics of skins. The Honor 5x I am replacing is about as heavy a skin as you can get these days and I didn't mind it. People always hate on it because it rips off Apple (ZTE does a bit of that too). Of course I found Google Now launcher, and have since move on to Action launcher, which is just awesome.
It was between the One Plus 3T and the Axon 7. The price is what ultimately did it for me. I got the A7 for $325 shipped on Jet.com, when I called to ask a question and the woman gave me a $15 off code. That's over a $100 difference in price with very comparable specs (even without the code it was going to be $340 shipped). I care about roms, but only after ZTE will EOL the phone. And with prices coming down, and value like this at around the $200-300 price point, I might not even keep it that long.
ZTE needs to make an impression on the US market. Or at least they want to. They did the hardware right this time. Now they just need to do the update dance. Honor (Huawei) committed to two years. These two brands appear very similar in software thinking and other areas. Given the Azon 7's two year warranty, I think the are probably going to also commit to two years of updates, stated or not. It only makes sense. And it also makes sense to announce that. Or anything. Maybe I missed it.
This phone is highway robbery at $325. I might have considered the $100 more if the 3T were waterproof.
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People complain about the ZTE software. I love it. Had it for 3 days and no complaints. I live outside the US and it works fine on our 4G networks in Trinidad.
The screen and the speakers are two things the Axon 7 trumps over the OP3T. And a visual and listening experience to me is reason enough to get this phone over any other. amoled 1440p and front facing stereo speakers PLUS memory card support and a great battery? Its a no brainer, get this phone
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Yeah, I was happy the firts couple of weeks too.
Let us know when you start to get annoyed with the bugs.
If you want good Dev, ROM support., go with 3t. That is my biggest disappointment with the A7. This could change in the near future but it may not. Don't get me wrong, the A7 is a really good phone but if I had to choose again, I would sacrifice resolution and SD card for more Dev support.
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If you want good Dev, ROM support., go with 3t. That is my biggest disappointment with the A7. This could change in the near future but it may not. Don't get me wrong, the A7 is a really good phone but if I had to choose again, I would sacrifice resolution and SD card for more Dev support.
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I don't see much changing as far as dev support goes for the Axon. With the death of CM it becomes even more unlikely that devs are gonna pick it up for development. It's about 6 months since release now and there is barely anything for the Axon so we'll have to be really optimistic to see anything change now. The main difference here is not aftermarket support, but the support from the in house devs of OnePlus and ZTE. And OnePlus is way more mature in that aspect. Mifavour is not half as bad but it will eventually wear you down.
I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
I have Lex720 3-4 months, never find single issue with this phone. Roms, I flashed many of them, atm i am on stock 6.0 TARS 23S by Steve Mars I like this one everything works good, good battery life.
But I don't use my phone a lot, no game, everyday I got over 50% juice left can use it for another day. It's comparable to Oneplus3/3t for performance, battery life maybe better. If you don't care about headphone jack it's as good as any phone I think and it's 300$, can't beat it.
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
I am using latest stock 21s with root and underclock. Performance good and battery life is also insane.
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Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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What he said. Also, I use the provided USB-C to 3.5 adapter with my sony earphones, the sound is excellent!
I bought the Lepro after 3 years of Nexus 5 ownership, and while I adore that thing to death and though it was going to be near impossible for me to find a phone who I'd find a worthy replacement, it was riddled with battery issues/wakelocks and crap from day 1. The lepro just blew me away, and still does.
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4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
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What tweaks did you do?
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What tweaks did you do?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/advanced-interactive-governor-tweaks-t3476589
OP3T ones work on our phone, same SOC. I used them as a basis to make my own two scripts that I toggle via a QS tile
I've had this phone for a while and everything is great except the camera quality, you will see a huge difference compared to S7 Edge.
Phone is running very stable with LineageOS 13, i use it as my daily driver and i don't have any problems so far.
Not interested in Xiaomi phones. I did consider the Mi5+ (i think) before i got my S7E but when i read about the hoops you have to jump thru to unlock the bootloader then i lost all interest.
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Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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I've read all the replies and I'm still on the fence. Mainly because I'm one of those people who doesn't like buying a phone unless it's brand new, ie right at the start of its life-cycle!
I held off to see what the Le Max 3 would be like when it was announced, but I assume no Snapdragon processor = no dev interest and no ROMs.
You guys are knowledgable about Chinese phones - what else is coming out soon? I would wait for the OnePlus 5, but I've read that they're going with an edge screen (that I'm desperate to get away from). I like the idea of a Snapdragon 835 and 6GB RAM though.
Is there anything else on the horizon that I should be considering?
if you dont need a phone right now then you can wait a couple of months, the axon should be announced soon, also the honor pro 8 is already out
If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
Edit; If i was given again the opportunity to buy out of all 821sd phones i would still go LP3. I am not dissapointed at all. But right now i dont think its worth it with the launch of 835. Although the diffence is not great its better to have the latest phone.
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If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
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For Xiaomi phones no development, for me right now the best buy is Oneplus 3t
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I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
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I hope I'm not late to this thread. Please do not buy this phone. There is no UNBRICKING support for this device whatsoever.
Please look around in this matter. There are about 5 threads of sudden deaths of this phone on Leeco.re, 3 more threads of sudden death of this device on leeco official forum where they will make u a bouncing ball and about 4 or 5 bricked threads over here on xda. This device is highly unreliable and shady after-sale support.
Until you live in a country where leeco officially retails (like india, HK, china) please refrain from buying this phone. I really hope you do not end up into a trashcan like I did when I bought Le Pro 3 without my ground work. I loved the phone until it lasted.
Your best bet is to get One Plus 3T which despite its expensiveness, has extended AOSP support and genuinely amazing community so far.
Oneplus 6 is there. I'm thinking of upgrading from my Huawei mate 9 to oneplus 6. I get tired of the little development of the Huawei community. Someone else goes to oneplus 6?
I dont believe the OP6 is on sale yet. Still I have decided to buy one as well. The mate 9 is great and all but I still can't get used to the UI and the development for this phone is pretty much absent.
Nope. Out of the box, they have way too many bugs, customer service is terrible.
In about a month or two after release, their phones aren't too bad, but, I don't like being
a beta tester. I've had 3 Huawei Phones. Mate 2,8,9. Out of the box, all have been perfect.
Plus, Oppo's cheaper cousin was suppose to be "less expensive" than all the other flagships.
They started out with a basic phone, good specs, low price. But, with each version they have
jacked up the price, and made them like every other overpriced flagship, "stylish, slim, colorful
& bla bla bla" Glass on the back? Why? Most people will put a case over it, to make sure it
doesn't break.
Nope, I don't go for Oppo's OnePlus with all their viral marketing BS.
The Huawei Mate 9 is my first Huawei device. Couldn't be happier. So much so that I got a P20 for my wife recently. If I had to replace the Mate 9 today I would take the P20 Pro.
I'm not into rooting or changing ROMs so the lack of a 'development community' doesn't bother me.
Before acquiring the Mate 9 I also considered the OnePlus 3T but the lack of local technical assistance was a big no no. If I can't buy it locally or get it repaired locally then I'm not interested.
I'm waiting for the next Mate.
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i will still go with huawei. especially with local service. amazing 1:1 exchange if your phone has hardware problems. About UI, seen OP5T from a friend it was fast yes. but too boring seeing it stock google. i realized that stock was just hype. and it was too boring to see. no exciting UI features.
What do you mean no development? We are the first phone to have trebble compatibility, and able to install pure android roms. Samsung s8 and oneplus 5 did not even bother to give trebble compatibility just so you will want to buy their new phone because it adds another feature. Oneplus 6 looks very similar to mate 9, camera probably isn't that much better either. Your point is invalid. Huawei have been improving tremendously and updates are more and more frequent.
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What do you mean no development? We are the first phone to have trebble compatibility, and able to install pure android roms. Samsung s8 and oneplus 5 did not even bother to give trebble compatibility just so you will want to buy their new phone because it adds another feature. Oneplus 6 looks very similar to mate 9, camera probably isn't that much better either. Your point is invalid. Huawei have been improving tremendously and updates are more and more frequent.
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Shoot, from what I discovered in 2014, when the "startup" OnePlus came along, all they are is a beta tester for the parent Oppo.
Once people found out that OnePlus is 100% owned by Oppo, who is owned by BBK electronics, their mask as a "poor lonely startup" got busted. Then, with the oneplus one, the distortions & out and out lies started to appear.
Stereo speakers that ended up being nothing more than twin MONO speakers, the "yellow stain" which they first said was because they set the screen color to a more warmer color. That turned out to be a lie, the screens were rushed to meet demand from the supplier and had not cured properly (I fixed mine by a combo of UV light & leaving it in the sunlight). Problems with
accessories missing or not working, having to pay shipping to get the phone and even worse if you had problems, sending it back!
Then, they came out with the OnePlus 2, which had the ill fated 810 chip, which was a problem for every manufacturer that tried to use it.
The OP3/3T was the better of the bunch, but then they went "cheap(er)" with the 5/5T and switched from an optical image
stabilized camera sensor, to the electronic image stabilized sensor, with a faster lens hoping to make up the difference.
It's "not bad" but not as good as the OIS on the 3/3T.
Then what do they do with the 6? Glass back? Why? To make it more trendy,hip,colorful & stylish? That just allows them
to jack up the price. And, if it has a glass back, why not throw in wireless charging?
Nope, got stung by the OnePlus hype in 2014...not going that route, again unless I can walk into a brick store buy it,
and take it back if it doesn't work.
I'm going to hold onto this phone for a while. I'm running OpenKirin, which while it has a few bugs, has substantially fewer than EMUI 8 (which prevented some apps from running correctly). I like having a headphone jack, I like the screen, I like the battery life, the camera is fantastic, I like not having a glass back. But I will probably bite the bullet and buy a Google phone next, so that I get updates without having to hack my phone. I'll buy a bunch of USB-C to 3.5mm dongles.
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I'm going to hold onto this phone for a while. I'm running OpenKirin, which while it has a few bugs, has substantially fewer than EMUI 8 (which prevented some apps from running correctly). I like having a headphone jack, I like the screen, I like the battery life, the camera is fantastic, I like not having a glass back. But I will probably bite the bullet and buy a Google phone next, so that I get updates without having to hack my phone. I'll buy a bunch of USB-C to 3.5mm dongles.
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Well google some of the pixel problems you will be amazed. Bad screen, and mic not working after update are the most common.
When the Mate 11 (or whatever they call it) is announced, I start watching the price on the 10, just like I did when I had the 8, and then
10 was announced, the price on the 9 DROPPED. Once it hit the around $500 mark, I upgraded to the 9.
My Mate 9 was a fabulous device.
My OnePlus 5T is updated almost every week.
And it's VERY quick.
Huawei prices and the feeling of being dumped (I had to wait a year for updates!) It's a worrying trend
Am I going to wait for the Mate 20? We'll have to see.
Consumerism should be a disease.
Pixel 3
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Well google some of the pixel problems you will be amazed. Bad screen, and mic not working after update are the most common.
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I am hoping the Pixel 3 will be better. Meanwhile I am reasonably happy with the Mate 9.
I probably won't buy another Huawei -- their recent decision to stop providing bootloader unlock codes means they are too unfriendly to XDA. OnePlus gets a lot of XDA support, which is fantastic, but I don't want a device with a glass back. I drop my phone too often. (Spigen has been great on the Huawei.) It is too bad because the Mate 9 has great hardware, and a 3.5mm headphone jack.
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i will still go with huawei. especially with local service. amazing 1:1 exchange if your phone has hardware problems. About UI, seen OP5T from a friend it was fast yes. but too boring seeing it stock google. i realized that stock was just hype. and it was too boring to see. no exciting UI features.
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what?? i dont know if your just shilling but none of what you said makes any sense. if your talking about the "optimizations" that hauwei implemnets, than maybe...... maybe! if your talking about the visual stuff....... then no!!! huawei could implement an OMS skin which could be easily disabled but instead royally bones the ui to look like ios.
android is about choice, if i want ios ill buy another iphone and just take whatever apple provides. huawei does great hardware but its software is just utter crap! its too bad they'll now be shunned in the US.
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what?? i dont know if your just shilling but none of what you said makes any sense. if your talking about the "optimizations" that hauwei implemnets, than maybe...... maybe! if your talking about the visual stuff....... then no!!! huawei could implement an OMS skin which could be easily disabled but instead royally bones the ui to look like ios.
android is about choice, if i want ios ill buy another iphone and just take whatever apple provides. huawei does great hardware but its software is just utter crap! its too bad they'll now be shunned in the US.
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About OS? You can compare if you already used both. There's an option to enable app drawer on huawei phones. For OP5t's OS. Youll see how boring it is and how secure your credit card is.
We both have opinions. No one is wrong or right. It is up to you if you wanna prove you are better.
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About OS? You can compare if you already used both. There's an option to enable app drawer on huawei phones. For OP5t's OS. Youll see how boring it is and how secure your credit card is.
We both have opinions. No one is wrong or right. It is up to you if you wanna prove you are better.
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what?? im going to assume that there is a language barrier here. if so, i apologize. the problem here is still that you seem to equate OOS with aosp which it is not. no one uses stock AOSP. even google doesnt use stock AOSP on the pixels. they use a modified pixel specific ROM.
all OEMs use AOSP and then modify it for their use. most OEMs now just add custom optimizations but leave the UI alone so the users can customize through OMS skins. Huawei still bastardizes this with their iOS like skin which is horrible. the battery optimizations are also a headache because they often kill important apps and the lockscreen mod is just terrible!
the huawei ROM has nothing when compared to an AOSP ROM such as AOSP extended, Paranoid Android or even LineageOS. these ROMs provide great features and endless security updates.
if you prefer the stock ROM thats great for you but it doesnt compare to a ROM that gives you options and full control of your device. i suggest you give AOSP Extended a try.
Interesting to read through the topic...Had multiple Samsungs in the past as my daily drivers but since I lost a couple of them due to emmc chip failures I moved away from the ugly overpriced Samsungs.
Everybody has different opinions and preferences, the times I was flashing custom Roms are over. For my work I need a reliable phone with good battery life at a descent price. The Mate 9 and Mate 10 are performing as expected without any problem both running stock Roms. Never had any issues after upgrades, even from Nougat to Oreo was painless. The Mate 9 from my wife did struggle with the upgrade from Nougat to Oreo. Had to factory reset this one to get it working correctly.
I can see a trend here, Huawei seems to go the same direction Samsung took, their devices getting more and more expensive and their customer service goes down as their popularity increases.
Is anyone feeling fed up with OnePlus on some level. This week they released their new beta 7 for the 6T. The update lists updates for weather and Switch app and this is the same for all their devices on open beta.
To me at least it feels like they're struggling to keep up with the beta roll outs for all their devices.
There are many bugs/feature requests that are being ignored and they are just rolling out these meaningless updates so that they can say that they provide two beta updates a month.
I've spent a fair bit of money on OnePlus phones in the last few years and always defending them mainly with the point of updates are frequent and the software is great,. It now I'm not so sure going forward. Looking at other devices now giving more for less money,even Samsung mid range A50 is giving a 4000mah battery,expandable storage,and official IPS rating amongst many other features
Really thinking of moving on from OnePlus as the price keeps rising and it's not worth it for what we're getting
Honestly the software isn't a problem. The complaints most people have are prices rising without anything more in the phone. IN FACT from the 6 to the 6t we lost several features and QoL things.
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Honestly the software isn't a problem. The complaints most people have are prices rising without anything more in the phone. IN FACT from the 6 to the 6t we lost several features and QoL things.
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Absolutely,this is a major concern. I got a free 6T through the referral program and sold my 6 which I soon realized was the better device. Do miss my led and working fingerprint,just concerned that the software is taking a tumble now too
Feel free to go buy a crappy $1,000 Samsung or iPhone that provide nothing except nice screens and cameras. Good luck with that. For the money, OnePlus is the best value performance and mod friendly phone around that supports all cell networks in the US. So does a Pixel, but that is also another $1,000 phone and their updates are no better.
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Feel free to go buy a crappy $1,000 Samsung or iPhone that provide nothing except nice screens and cameras. Good luck with that. For the money, OnePlus is the best value performance and mod friendly phone around that supports all cell networks in the US. So does a Pixel, but that is also another $1,000 phone and their updates are no better.
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facts.
No problems with them here.
I've owned the following (not counting my previously owned iPhones lol):
Nexus 6P
Pixel XL
Pixel 2 XL
Pixel 3 XL
OnePlus 5
OnePlus 5T
OnePlus 6
OnePlus 6T
The 6T has definitely been my favourite device and best performer out of all these past smartphones I've listed.
The 6 has the same specs as 6T but I guess the software wasn't as polished as it is now on my 6T. It's blazing fast and smooth, no stutters or lag.
It's surprisingly faster and less laggy compared to my recent 3XL! The initial app launch speeds for example, are significantly faster on my 6T (and no, it's not just because of faster animations).
The price is slowly going up, but it's still the best bang for your buck compared to other devices in this price range.
I do enjoy quick software updates, but I'm not a beta user and it's also by no means a deal breaker for me. I don't mind a few delayed updates here and there. No big deal.
Battery life has been insane as well, averaging 6 hours of SOT where I normally get about 4-5.
The issues I have with this phone are the following:
- Lack of VoLTE and VoWiFi (but I think this is a carrier specific issue for me)
- Weak and cheap feeling vibrate motor
- Inferior camera (especially after using the Pixel 3 XL camera) (Gcam port helps a bit, but still inferior)
- FP scanner is hit or miss, and I hate how night light disables and screen brightens during scan/lockscreen
- FP scanner incompatible with custom ROMs (the flashaholic in me is having withdrawals) (however OOS is growing on me and I'm loving the stock software experience now!)
- Wrong mic used in some apps (i.e. Snapchat)
However, despite all these issues, I still consider it to be an overall better experience and value compared to all my other devices I've owned in the past. I may skip the OnePlus 7 and keep this, not only because it's been a great overall experience, but also because the 7 is supposed to have a popup front camera. Introducing motorized parts is asking for trouble, so I may skip it.
All-in-all, it's the best phone I've ever owned and I'm definitely not fed up or anything of that nature.
Coming from Samsung to OnePlus 6T. There isn't a chance in hell for me to go back. Devices are way more expensive and they aren't as good for me any way.
With storage and root capability I couldn't ask for more, other than maybe a working LED.
As for updates unless they have something that really changes things then great if not who cares. People buy new devices then immediately want updates I just don't get it.
For me this is the best device I have ever owned. Just my two cents.
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I've owned the following (not counting my previously owned iPhones lol):
Nexus 6P
Pixel XL
Pixel 2 XL
Pixel 3 XL
OnePlus 5
OnePlus 5T
OnePlus 6
OnePlus 6T
The 6T has definitely been my favourite device and best performer out of all these past smartphones I've listed.
The 6 has the same specs as 6T but I guess the software wasn't as polished as it is now on my 6T. It's blazing fast and smooth, no stutters or lag.
It's surprisingly faster and less laggy compared to my recent 3XL! The initial app launch speeds for example, are significantly faster on my 6T (and no, it's not just because of faster animations).
The price is slowly going up, but it's still the best bang for your buck compared to other devices in this price range.
I do enjoy quick software updates, but I'm not a beta user and it's also by no means a deal breaker for me. I don't mind a few delayed updates here and there. No big deal.
Battery life has been insane as well, averaging 6 hours of SOT where I normally get about 4-5.
The issues I have with this phone are the following:
- Lack of VoLTE and VoWiFi (but I think this is a carrier specific issue for me)
- Weak and cheap feeling vibrate motor
- Inferior camera (especially after using the Pixel 3 XL camera) (Gcam port helps a bit, but still inferior)
- FP scanner is hit or miss, and I hate how night light disables and screen brightens during scan/lockscreen
- FP scanner incompatible with custom ROMs (the flashaholic in me is having withdrawals) (however OOS is growing on me and I'm loving the stock software experience now!)
- Wrong mic used in some apps (i.e. Snapchat)
However, despite all these issues, I still consider it to be an overall better experience and value compared to all my other devices I've owned in the past. I may skip the OnePlus 7 and keep this, not only because it's been a great overall experience, but also because the 7 is supposed to have a popup front camera. Introducing motorized parts is asking for trouble, so I may skip it.
All-in-all, it's the best phone I've ever owned and I'm definitely not fed up or anything of that nature.
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Same here , recently switched from HTC with a new model every year since the Touch <1992 maybe) lol.
No complaints here with the 6T. VoLTE and WiFi calling work. By no means does this phone have a weak vibration motor.
Google camera is my default.
Fingerprint scanner works 95 % of the time. Also using Renovate ROM 11.1. I have always used an original OS, no AOSP or custom OS ROMs.
Looking forward to the full screen 7T and pop-up camera, it will be a nice feature. If your vibration motor has never quit on a phone I highly doubtful the camera will have any issues.
My last device was a Galaxy S8+, being in the U.S., it would have to be a HUGE breakthrough to get me to switch back. Perhaps like an unlockable bootloader on sammy devices, but we know that isnt gonna happen!
I hear you. This is my first OnePlus device and I actually don't like the stock software. After 3 months I grew to hate it due to several reasons. After getting fed up with it I decided to install Havoc ROM and haven't looked back since. I love Havoc and the phone runs extremely good with it. My main regret is the 7 is looking really nice. I like how it doesn't have a front cam because I don't use the front cam and the idea of having a full screen front display is intriguing. I might sell my P2XL and OP6T when the 7 comes out. I might also wait to see what the Note 10 has to offer. I'm not a huge Samsung fan but the Note 10 might be interesting.
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Absolutely,this is a major concern. I got a free 6T through the referral program and sold my 6 which I soon realized was the better device. Do miss my led and working fingerprint,just concerned that the software is taking a tumble now too
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How does the Referral Program work tho. I know this is OT but OP6T is my first OP phone. Got it solely for the custom Development. And while the FP is a letdown its slow anyway so I don't care. Phone is smooth overall. As for software I couldn't care less as the only time I used OOS was to unlock bootloader.
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How does the Referral Program work tho. I know this is OT but OP6T is my first OP phone. Got it solely for the custom Development. And while the FP is a letdown its slow anyway so I don't care. Phone is smooth overall. As for software I couldn't care less as the only time I used OOS was to unlock bootloader.
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You can get a link in your OnePlus account and share it with friends,you will have to refer about 70 people though to get a new phone.You could referv few and get vouchers for accessories .Its pretty good if you can get the prople
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Same here , recently switched from HTC with a new model every year since the Touch <1992 maybe) lol.
No complaints here with the 6T. VoLTE and WiFi calling work. By no means does this phone have a weak vibration motor.
Google camera is my default.
Fingerprint scanner works 95 % of the time. Also using Renovate ROM 11.1. I have always used an original OS, no ASOP or custom OS ROMs.
Looking forward to the full screen 7T and pop-up camera, it will be a nice feature. If your vibration motor has never quit on a phone I highly doubtful the camera will have any issues.
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Vibrate motor feels weak and inferior to me, especially after feeling the quality of a Pixel 2 and 3 vibrate motor. I can't really feel it in my pocket.
However, you raise an interesting point with the popup camera not giving any issues if a vibrate motor doesn't. Will have to wait and see once the 7 is officially announced!
I like my 6T. Best phone I ever had. But, I do miss the LED (it was a major part of how I used my phones), and the vibration motor on every phone I've had in the last 6 years or so has gotten worse each time. Not just oneplus. I miss the old Blackberry vibrators that could buzz the phone off the table.
I really like my 6T! Of course it's not all rainbows here either, there's a few annoying thing about this phone I'd change if I could. The mono speaker on the corner of the phone is just plain annoying, far too easy to muffle for a device with a built in "gaming mode" since obviously your hands will be on the top and bottom of the device. And the decision to keep the source for the new fingerprint sensor closed source...... That aggravates me since I soley went oneplus for the stellar dev scene here...... OP threw a wrench in the machine with that. It didn't stop development in any way, but I won't use a rom that lacks such a big feature, through zero fault of the devs here.
Yes I am fed up with oneplus. Especially software, as it's working bad. I've heard oneplus is supposed to be smooth, in my case scrolling is a nightmare. Also... Samsung s7 gets more updates and faster than this. It's April, and we're still on January patch. And this company has how many devices supported? 4?
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Yes I am fed up with oneplus. Especially software, as it's working bad. I've heard oneplus is supposed to be smooth, in my case scrolling is a nightmare. Also... Samsung s7 gets more updates and faster than this. It's April, and we're still on January patch. And this company has how many devices supported? 4?
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You should go on the open beta,surely there's got to be more frequent updates on the open beta than samsung
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Coming from Samsung to OnePlus 6T. There isn't a chance in hell for me to go back. Devices are way more expensive and they aren't as good for me any way.
With storage and root capability I couldn't ask for more, other than maybe a working LED.
As for updates unless they have something that really changes things then great if not who cares. People buy new devices then immediately want updates I just don't get it.
For me this is the best device I have ever owned. Just my two cents.
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Agreed, this was a great upgrade coming from Samsung and their soaring prices.
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Yes I am fed up with oneplus. Especially software, as it's working bad. I've heard oneplus is supposed to be smooth, in my case scrolling is a nightmare. Also... Samsung s7 gets more updates and faster than this. It's April, and we're still on January patch. And this company has how many devices supported? 4?
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On beta 7, and Android security update of March 1st.