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I'm still interested in this phone, but I can't find a whole lot of information on it after early fall.
Anyone that have one still recommend it?
Any major issues to look out for if I purchased one now?
Not interested in rooting or modding. Really like it for the specs and price.
Thanks!
Well, I for one regret buying it. I think OPO was much better phone. My OP2 is slow and often crashes and couple days ago my clock alarm didn't work which why I overslept. Often have to do hard boot to get it work again.
I don't know is it hardware issue, haven't tried rooting and flashing other ROMs yet, but many people has reported the phone being slow.
It is a bit slow using original os, unfortunately. This will probably be alleviated a bit by Marshmallow when it is released. It's unfortunate that this phone isn't just using ordinary cyanogenmod, since using the current builds of cm13 makes this phone really snappy but with a few bugs and missing features as of now.
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I'm currently running my OP+2 with OOS 2.2.0 and Boeffla Kernel. Runs like a charm. Pretty good Battery life (keeps me through the day with 6 - 7 hours SOT), has an amazing camera, fingerprint works pretty good too. Overall performance is great for me. I don't think you can get a Better device for this price.
Most of the problems everyone is talking about are resulting from wrong usage. Main problems i recognized through the Forums are Facebook+its Messenger, bull**** like Greenify and stuff and wrong expectations about a handheld device that isnt build to be a gaming console (with the right Kernel and Settings it can be ).
But if you are not sure about it and dont want to root and tinker around with the device better wait for another device. Here in Germany you can get a Galaxy S6 for the same price when its on sale somewhere. Maybe such a mainstream device is better for you then.
Hope i could help.
yes.
I think OPO is better now because of the official Cyanogen it have , I have experimented a lot of custom ROM's nowdays , for me H2O is better than OOS , but it's for China and it's customers .. Every H2O OS I installed had the same problem with notifications , for example Whatsapp and Facebook messenger notification came in few minutes after the message was sent to me, or they appeared just after I used the applications .. So I don't recommend H2O os at moment , I hope for a major update of OxigenOS , or that the official Cyanogenmod will come soon , after a better ROM this phone will be stunning, better than OPO :good:
I originally wanted to buy the OPO, but it was out of stock so I got the 2 instead.
I love it, it is a huge step up from my Moto G 2014. Love OxygenOS with the Boeffla Kernel only about 5 hours SOT.
I thought the fingerprint reader was going to be gimmicky, almost 99% accurate. Could not fault the phone atm.
In love with the design, get a nice Dbrand.
I think no. If I could by an other phone today, I would go to a LG G4 or a Nexus 6P. Damn, look at OnePlus Company, no sources, Fingerprint / Laser Autofocus drivers no released yet. I really don't understand OnePlus orientation regarding the open source side of Android. I know they will (I REALLY HOPE) release their sources for CM13, but for now, all I see is that we have a ""semi"" CM13 (But don't say what I've don't said, @regalstreak and all others developers have maid a wonderful job). Furthermore, I asked Carl Pei on his twitter why sources are not release yet, well.... no answer. Very nice for an opened company Anyway. Mate, if you still have the choice, go for an other phone.
Even my old LG G2 already has Android 6.0.1.
Still really pleased with mine after 4 months. For the money I don't think you can do much better, personally.
If you're talking about community support I afraid not. But talking about stock rom, I'm satisfied with custom kernel installed, generally smooth experience relying on it's powerful hardware at least. But of course there are quite a number of competitive phones on similar price range like 5x g4 or stylex.
So it depends on your need. I personally take a lot of snapshot(photo I mean) g4 might be better but I'm still pleased with opt.
I have one and I love it, the only real problem I have is with oxygenos, it's pretty buggy and a bit slow. That hopefully will be fixed with software updates. The fingerprint scanner/home button is very responsive and everything works well for me.
In my opinion it is worth it, I would totally recommend it.
benj! said:
Still really pleased with mine after 4 months. For the money I don't think you can do much better, personally.
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In France, LG G4 dropped at 350 Euros, (~381$), and for me, the G4 is far away compared to the OnePlus Two:
-SDCard slot,
-Camera,
-Great specs,
-Great community support... (CM13, fast update from LG)
Yes, the OnePlus Two is a great phone, but not the flasgship killer claimed by OnePlus. But at the end, user is the one who chooses, so.... just my personal opinion!
Oh yeah, @Chopzzay makes me think about it: fingerprint is one of the most funny thing on this phone, it works for randomly: sometimes every time, some times, I have to do it two or three times before it works. Very disappointed about it.
For me I would say it's pretty much the only flagship dual sim card phone, there really was no other choice since I don't want to be dragging two phones with me all the time to be reached both on my private and business number.
But as a single sim user, it's a completely different situation I recon.
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casual_kikoo said:
In France, LG G4 dropped at 350 Euros, (~381$), and for me, the G4 is far away compared to the OnePlus Two:
-SDCard slot,
-Camera,
-Great specs,
-Great community support... (CM13, fast update from LG)
Yes, the OnePlus Two is a great phone, but not the flasgship killer claimed by OnePlus. But at the end, user is the one who chooses, so.... just my personal opinion!
Oh yeah, @Chopzzay makes me think about it: fingerprint is one of the most funny thing on this phone, it works for randomly: sometimes every time, some times, I have to do it two or three times before it works. Very disappointed about it.
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Of course g4 will be better only if you only name the pros.
Screen resolution is debatable, less battery, less performance and working on adreno 418... That's a choice, not a pro, personally i love that Oneplus 2 has a FullHD display and not a QHD, i could bought LG G4, Moto x pure, or whatever 500uds or less. I decided Oneplus 2 and im very happy with my decisión. Thanks god i didnt belive the overheating rumors, they are exagerated, my nexus 5 got hotter.
*was between the same devices. My decisión was LG G4 or Oneplus 2. Moto X it was my third choice.
I choose the op2 because of this:
-Full HD screen : more battery and less GPU demanding
-SoC: 810 vs 808. That means ram lpddr4 vs lpddr3, adreno 418 (qHD) vs adreno 430 (FHD).
About heating, because of the rumors oneplus throttle the devices too fast, if you edited the thermal file with boeffla kernel you could have awesome performance, for more info about throttle pm me.
-Fingerprint scanner. Works perfect, if you know how to scan. You have to scan your finger in every side of it, so it will work perfectly.
-XDA community, not too much for no but it will grow up. Oneplus is contacting devs from XDA, that must be a good thing. Op2 will grow a lot when official marshmallow get released.
-Capacitive buttons, so it does not take space from the screen
-Alert slider is useful, but lg g4 volume buttons are very nice too.
-4gb vs 3gb, its not a real life difference but maybe it will be.
EDIT:- Better battery life. 3300mah vs 3000mah, also fhd vs qhd must make a difference.
About nfc, for almost 2 years i never used it on my nexus 5, so its not a problem for me.*
Hope you can decide for the best, come with us*[emoji6]
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I have an edge plus and use my opt way more then the edge + lol....love this device, don't know why all the hate, Jesus....
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I was really thinking of buying op2 but after seeing so much reviews about heating, more than six months has passed since launch and problem still exist and plus little support for community development from company i doubt i will buy this mobile. I may go for nexus 6p
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I was really thinking of buying op2 but after seeing so much reviews about heating, more than six months has passed since launch and problem still exist and plus little support for community development from company i doubt i will buy this mobile. I may go for nexus 6p
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About heating, nexus 6p has the same soc. And this phone doesn't overheat. I use it with modified thermal and it doesn't throttle even after 30m+ of heavy gaming.
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I own a OPT and can't recommend it. It's the worst phone (beside the a Nokia Lumia 520) I've ever used in the last few years.
The hardware is good, the specs are looking great but the software is really crap. and the speaker volume is really really low so I can't hear any calls or messages.
I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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You could have just looked at the ROM section of the forum to find your answer. We currently have one CM ROM, and it's not "perfectly working". It's a WIP.
You should buy the OnePlus 3T. The dev community for the Axon7 won't ever be as big as OP, and it seems that's what you care about.
Hola
I was interested in this A7 since it was announced earlier this year due to the amazing hardware and audio capabilities.
Fast forward 3 months or so since I have it, I can say that it delivers on the hardware in most aspects. The issues with this phone in my experience:
1. Camera ain't the best but just ok. Don't consider this phone if camera is important to you.
2. The hardware capacitive buttons are too close together and up to now it is tough to use the back and recents. This can somewhat be managed by using on screen navigation buttons which is available from one of our kind Devs who added it to a stock firmware based ROM.
3. There is no minute vibration controls. It is either on or off. On simply provides a hard, and relatively long vibration, annoying when typing. Yes you can turn it off on your keyboard but I still prefer it on regardless.
4. The single biggest issue for me is the lack of stable third party ROMs like RR, Pure Nexus, multiROM, DU, and the like. Also no full kernel is available yet - I see a Dev was able to provide 1 kernel but it is a work in progress and for that we are most grateful to the Dev. Another Dev, Unjustified Dev, took the time and effort to provide us an instance of CM13.1 but it has major issues with audio and mic. We know that Unjustified Dev has put a lot of time into trying to get the audio working better but due to the proprietary drivers related to audio it is also a work in progress. A few others have been trying to also help but mic is still iffy at this point. So if third party ROMs are your thing then this ain't a phone worthy of your money.
5. So frustrated I was with the initial lack of stable third party ROMs that I went ahead and purchased the OnePlus 3T, man that brand can attract Devs. I used the OnePlus for a few weeks but because I missed the dual front facing speakers of the A7, I went back. By this time another Dev was able to provide a very stable stock firmware based ROM with a few additional tweaks while keeping the audio features intact. I now use the A7 with Xposed and it is now OK. I am still hoping that our brilliant Devs will be able to get us a stable CM instance and I know they are still sacrificing time and effort into trying to provide us something.
6. I go back occasionally to my 3T to play with the latest iterations of some custom ROMs, but audio is the missing feature on the 3T.
Hope this helps you. I can't really pronounce on the other items you raised.
Get the A7 ... Great hardware & software improves (literally) daily!
OP3(T) has poor carrier support in the US. US model of Axon 7 is better tailored to US networks.
The Axon 7 is due to get an upgrade to Nougat in January 2017. I'm sure there will be many fixes to known problems that come with it.
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Hola
I was interested in this A7 since it was announced earlier this year due to the amazing hardware and audio capabilities.
Fast forward 3 months or so since I have it, I can say that it delivers on the hardware in most aspects. The issues with this phone in my experience:
1. Camera ain't the best but just ok. Don't consider this phone if camera is important to you.
2. The hardware capacitive buttons are too close together and up to now it is tough to use the back and recents. This can somewhat be managed by using on screen navigation buttons which is available from one of our kind Devs who added it to a stock firmware based ROM.
3. There is no minute vibration controls. It is either on or off. On simply provides a hard, and relatively long vibration, annoying when typing. Yes you can turn it off on your keyboard but I still prefer it on regardless.
4. The single biggest issue for me is the lack of stable third party ROMs like RR, Pure Nexus, multiROM, DU, and the like. Also no full kernel is available yet - I see a Dev was able to provide 1 kernel but it is a work in progress and for that we are most grateful to the Dev. Another Dev, Unjustified Dev, took the time and effort to provide us an instance of CM13.1 but it has major issues with audio and mic. We know that Unjustified Dev has put a lot of time into trying to get the audio working better but due to the proprietary drivers related to audio it is also a work in progress. A few others have been trying to also help but mic is still iffy at this point. So if third party ROMs are your thing then this ain't a phone worthy of your money.
5. So frustrated I was with the initial lack of stable third party ROMs that I went ahead and purchased the OnePlus 3T, man that brand can attract Devs. I used the OnePlus for a few weeks but because I missed the dual front facing speakers of the A7, I went back. By this time another Dev was able to provide a very stable stock firmware based ROM with a few additional tweaks while keeping the audio features intact. I now use the A7 with Xposed and it is now OK. I am still hoping that our brilliant Devs will be able to get us a stable CM instance and I know they are still sacrificing time and effort into trying to provide us something.
6. I go back occasionally to my 3T to play with the latest iterations of some custom ROMs, but audio is the missing feature on the 3T.
Hope this helps you. I can't really pronounce on the other items you raised.
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Thanks. Fortunately I don't care much about camera quality. With dev stuff really I can get by as long as I can root it and have at least a stockish rom that completely works.
One thing I do like now is the ability to customize the notification LED to change colors based on different things. Would this be possible with this device?
It really infuriates me that almost all devices come out with one mono speaker. It seems like stereo speakers of any kind at least should be standard at this point. Then again I'm one who wishes these phones had physical keyboards because After seven or whatever years I still can't type worth a crap on a screen.
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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Not sure what to believe. I have also heard that OP has the worst support and ZTE's is better. I've never had any problem with any phone or needed any support really outside of me messing stuff up with rooting etc.
I saw one review from August talking about the A7's great power management. Are you saying that no longer works?
yamils said:
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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The Axon 7 has a 2 year warranty vs. 1 for the OP3T so the support argument is not clear-cut.
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The Axon 7 has a 2 year warranty vs. 1 for the OP3T so the support argument is not clear-cut.
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We are clearly talking about a different type of support.
Anyways, in my country I dont have neither OnePlus nor ZTE support so I really dont care about warranty.
effluent said:
I was set on a OnePlus 3T but this is one sale right now and I LOVE the audio capabilities of this thing. I have a rooted OP1 and have run CM for a couple years. It sounds like this phone isn't as far along as the OP3 when it comes to Roms etc... Correct? Any good Roms with everything working? One with theme customization would be nice too. Being used to perfectly working CM etc. would I regret getting this or should I go for it? Are there good Rom alternatives? I used to be one who would tinker with my phone a lot but these days I want a ROM thati like and just works and don't have to worry about it.
One other thing. It has been a long time since I've had a phone with an SD card slot. Can that storage be used as internal storage? On my Shield TV I can make one huge pool of storage with all the external storages plugged in.
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I am the same as you. Personally I don't think CM adds much compared to stock providing you already use a different launcher. I personally use blinkfeed launcher from HTC on all my phones (and it has custom theming) and I can tell you that with that I don't need any other ROM as I feel the settings menu on the Axon 7 is great. Initially the software had some mild annoyances but with the latest update I am perfectly happy (and nougat update should fix the last remaining issues in January based on what ZTE said).
I think the OP3T is also a strong device, but you would be trading off gorgeous QHD display and amazing sound with slightly better battery life, which I personally don't use, since the Axon 7 charges in 70 min.
Personally I don't feel it makes sense to buy a full HD device going into 2017, as I want to be able to use good quality VR. Also on AMOLED displays which have a pentile screen arrangement 1080p is more like 900p in terms of sharpness. QHD look more like 1200p.
The only case where I would recommend the OP3T is if you are a non VR hard-core gamer and need extra performance as 1080p display can help squeeze more performance, but in most games the difference won't be that noticeable.
yamils said:
ZTE is a ****ty company with crap software. And the community development for this device is almost non existent (except for a few guys that are doing their best with what they have).
But you get front facing speaker and great audio (with awful support, though).
ZTE is so bad as a company that they dont even let us discuss about the Nougat update. You'd think they learn something after the last update that broke the power managment of the device and couldn't fix anything since launch , but no... 3 months now since the last update and we dont get a proper fix.
So, back to topic. Go with the OP3T, you get a better device, with better support and more resell value.
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I completely agree with this guy. I'm blown away by how poorly ZTE have managed things, and their support is borderline non-existent. If the 1080p screen of the OP3/T wasn't a borderline deal breaker for me (VR) I would have attempted to return this phone. If I had to pick a phone right now I'd buy a OP3T, and that's even considering that the DAC on the A7 is a big deal for me which leads me to my next point...
You say the DAC is a big deal for you, well I should let you know that the Hi-Fi DAC it doesn't seem to work in anything but ZTE's default app which is absolute trash with less than bare-bones functionality and it's very buggy.
Edit: I forgot to clarify one point; why "1080p" is so pixelated for VR. It's because AMOLED panels are advertised as false resolutions due to a legal loophole; there isn't legal standard. They use a pentile pattern meaning they have 1/3rd less subpixels, and as much as Samsung's engineers will tell you that it effectively looks the same to the human eye, it absolutely does not, even at extreme density such as "1080p" on a 5.1" display, or even "1440p" on this 5.5" display. On flat colours I can see the pentile pattern.
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We are clearly talking about a different type of support.
Anyways, in my country I dont have neither OnePlus nor ZTE support so I really dont care about warranty.
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For me warranty is a decision factor. The fact that ZTE offer 2 year warranty even for unlocked devices is a plus, even if I don't feel a need to unlock right now. The fact that Nougat update will be very fast coming already in January is also a plus.
Only if you are in the US, consider the Axon 7. Anywhere else, including the US, OnePlus is a reliable option.
People complain about the ZTE software. I love it. Had it for 3 days and no complaints. I live outside the US and it works fine on our 4G networks in Trinidad.
The screen and the speakers are two things the Axon 7 trumps over the OP3T. And a visual and listening experience to me is reason enough to get this phone over any other. amoled 1440p and front facing stereo speakers PLUS memory card support and a great battery? Its a no brainer, get this phone
^ I've never really had much of an issue with the cosmetics of skins. The Honor 5x I am replacing is about as heavy a skin as you can get these days and I didn't mind it. People always hate on it because it rips off Apple (ZTE does a bit of that too). Of course I found Google Now launcher, and have since move on to Action launcher, which is just awesome.
It was between the One Plus 3T and the Axon 7. The price is what ultimately did it for me. I got the A7 for $325 shipped on Jet.com, when I called to ask a question and the woman gave me a $15 off code. That's over a $100 difference in price with very comparable specs (even without the code it was going to be $340 shipped). I care about roms, but only after ZTE will EOL the phone. And with prices coming down, and value like this at around the $200-300 price point, I might not even keep it that long.
ZTE needs to make an impression on the US market. Or at least they want to. They did the hardware right this time. Now they just need to do the update dance. Honor (Huawei) committed to two years. These two brands appear very similar in software thinking and other areas. Given the Azon 7's two year warranty, I think the are probably going to also commit to two years of updates, stated or not. It only makes sense. And it also makes sense to announce that. Or anything. Maybe I missed it.
This phone is highway robbery at $325. I might have considered the $100 more if the 3T were waterproof.
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People complain about the ZTE software. I love it. Had it for 3 days and no complaints. I live outside the US and it works fine on our 4G networks in Trinidad.
The screen and the speakers are two things the Axon 7 trumps over the OP3T. And a visual and listening experience to me is reason enough to get this phone over any other. amoled 1440p and front facing stereo speakers PLUS memory card support and a great battery? Its a no brainer, get this phone
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Yeah, I was happy the firts couple of weeks too.
Let us know when you start to get annoyed with the bugs.
If you want good Dev, ROM support., go with 3t. That is my biggest disappointment with the A7. This could change in the near future but it may not. Don't get me wrong, the A7 is a really good phone but if I had to choose again, I would sacrifice resolution and SD card for more Dev support.
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If you want good Dev, ROM support., go with 3t. That is my biggest disappointment with the A7. This could change in the near future but it may not. Don't get me wrong, the A7 is a really good phone but if I had to choose again, I would sacrifice resolution and SD card for more Dev support.
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I don't see much changing as far as dev support goes for the Axon. With the death of CM it becomes even more unlikely that devs are gonna pick it up for development. It's about 6 months since release now and there is barely anything for the Axon so we'll have to be really optimistic to see anything change now. The main difference here is not aftermarket support, but the support from the in house devs of OnePlus and ZTE. And OnePlus is way more mature in that aspect. Mifavour is not half as bad but it will eventually wear you down.
I have been looking to buy a new mobile phone since my LG G3 bit the dust a few months ago. The one that piqued my interest is the Axon 7 due to the audio hardware (dual DAC and stereo front speakers) which is the one thing I use my mobile for above everything else. I have been looking at the LG G6 with its quad DAC also but the cost difference is hard to ignore especially if the Axon can give me what I am looking for.
I realise that ZTE have discontinued the manufacturing of the Axon 7 but they are still available from some vendors and rumours have arisen about its successor appearing soon. ZTE is allegedly also releasing Oreo to the 7 in April.
So due to an eventual show of the 8, do you think I would be better waiting through January for the Axon 8 or just pulling the trigger on an Axon 7 right now?
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What's your budget? If you're willing to go higher than $400, I'd say get one of the OnePlus phones. Released this year. They have an exceptional dev community (not that ours is bad but theirs is just incredible), and the phones are remarkably solid, especially given the price.
If you're on a budget, then yeah, get the Axon 7 or one of the older OP devices (OP3/3T). You wouldn't have the amazing audio you get with the Axon, but the phones are really, really good.
The Axon 7 is still getting dev support, which is great, but I don't think we'll get to see Android P on our device. Many devs are already losing interest and some people in the community are driving the ones that are left away.
Another option to consider is a used LG V20, which had amazing audio as well.
I am a poweruser so I tend to root my devices almost straightaway usually with magisk so I can use V4A.
I was tempted by the OnePlus 5T and it probably wouldn't be out of my budget, it looks like a really solid phone but with the reports of poor sound quality, lack of DAC and no SD card slot it just didn't fit the bill for me.
I did check out the LG v30 and the specs are an absolute beast on that but alas...so is the price being new on the market lol. The Samsung S8...ERM no...I vouched after they started the bit locking fiasco on the S4 I would never buy another Samsung.
The LG G6 is good for audio but even LG have started regionalizing features now.
These are partly the reason I decided mid to low tear was enough for me as they are easily obtainable from China sim free without ties to contracts and they have a habit of producing good value devices which compete with stupid money flagships.
I am trying to avoid going down the root of second hand devices as I am a big believer in you usually buy someone else's problems especially with manufacturer obsolescence being on the tongues of every techy these days. Its bad enough with the non replaceable batteries in devices!
Bang for buck the Axon 7 is still very desirable...its just the audio I can't ignore and for the price. Bit of a shame that the dev community is losing interest in the axon 7 though, seems a really solid device.
@Gases hope you don't think I am a whining my friend, just me obsessing about my next device lol
So do you think its worth waiting for the Axon 7's successor?
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My view from a value consious type is that the A7 is great hardware for the money and importantly, it still runs fast. Getting O may help keep a little development on it but stock is good anyway. I personally wouldn't buy an LG phone, too many successive devices with serious problems like bootloop which never seems to be fixed. LG don't want their phones to last long.
If you're not the sort of person who must have the latest, then for the price the Axon 7 is still a compelling buy.
If you only choose a phone from the list of Daydream certified devices you ensure a well rounded performance and decent sensors etc. It really comes down to how much you want to spend and nothing much can touch the A7 for value versus it's real world performance. Forget benchmarks and all that junk, it's all numbers and running an Axon keeps reliable performance unlike say, a Samsung which will get the stutters sooner or later. I'm keen to see the O update being closer to stock Android on my Axon, but even on B09N it is still smooth and responsive leaving no reason to even consider buying anything else.
All that being posted, I would like to see the next flagship Axon but like all brands, ZTE will try to grow their price tag as public perception improves. Just look at Huawei as an example. Got too expensive and now put themselves beyond my price level. Wouldn't consider Samsung, HTC and all the others keeping prices double what they should be.
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I am a poweruser so I tend to root my devices almost straightaway usually with magisk so I can use V4A.
I was tempted by the OnePlus 5T and it probably wouldn't be out of my budget, it looks like a really solid phone but with the reports of poor sound quality, lack of DAC and no SD card slot it just didn't fit the bill for me.
I did check out the LG v30 and the specs are an absolute beast on that but alas...so is the price being new on the market lol. The Samsung S8...ERM no...I vouched after they started the bit locking fiasco on the S4 I would never buy another Samsung.
The LG G6 is good for audio but even LG have started regionalizing features now.
These are partly the reason I decided mid to low tear was enough for me as they are easily obtainable from China sim free without ties to contracts and they have a habit of producing good value devices which compete with stupid money flagships.
I am trying to avoid going down the root of second hand devices as I am a big believer in you usually buy someone else's problems especially with manufacturer obsolescence being on the tongues of every techy these days. Its bad enough with the non replaceable batteries in devices!
Bang for buck the Axon 7 is still very desirable...its just the audio I can't ignore and for the price. Bit of a shame that the dev community is losing interest in the axon 7 though, seems a really solid device.
@Gases hope you don't think I am a whining my friend, just me obsessing about my next device lol
So do you think its worth waiting for the Axon 7's successor?
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When you say that you use your phone for music, what do you really mean? Hi-res, or just FLACs? With V4A or stock?
The AK4490EN is capable of like 768 kHz/32 bit, but ZTE limited to a hideous 96 kHz/16 bit...
Still it sounds much, MUCH better than a standard Snapdragon DAC. Even on custom ROMs. And even more so on custom ROMs with V4A, if you're using MP3s.
I think you have to completely avoid midrange devices. The best choice is to get a high-end CPU even if it's one generation old. The SD6xx series are a world apart in terms of performance.
Also, why do you say that the dev community is losing interest? We lost 1 or 2 devs this year. It was always rather weak, but we're a cozy community and seemingly managed to push enough to get ZTE to get a working Camera2 API and some other stuff (time will tell).
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My view from a value consious type is that the A7 is great hardware for the money and importantly, it still runs fast. Getting O may help keep a little development on it but stock is good anyway. I personally wouldn't buy an LG phone, too many successive devices with serious problems like bootloop which never seems to be fixed. LG don't want their phones to last long.
If you're not the sort of person who must have the latest, then for the price the Axon 7 is still a compelling buy.
If you only choose a phone from the list of Daydream certified devices you ensure a well rounded performance and decent sensors etc. It really comes down to how much you want to spend and nothing much can touch the A7 for value versus it's real world performance. Forget benchmarks and all that junk, it's all numbers and running an Axon keeps reliable performance unlike say, a Samsung which will get the stutters sooner or later. I'm keen to see the O update being closer to stock Android on my Axon, but even on B09N it is still smooth and responsive leaving no reason to even consider buying anything else.
All that being posted, I would like to see the next flagship Axon but like all brands, ZTE will try to grow their price tag as public perception improves. Just look at Huawei as an example. Got too expensive and now put themselves beyond my price level. Wouldn't consider Samsung, HTC and all the others keeping prices double what they should be.
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Totally agree on the LG thing, the G3 was a solid item on the outside but its internals were a different story...like I said manufactured obsolescence! Baking the motherboard on mine was its final death cry lol
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When you say that you use your phone for music, what do you really mean? Hi-res, or just FLACs? With V4A or stock?
The AK4490EN is capable of like 768 kHz/32 bit, but ZTE limited to a hideous 96 kHz/16 bit...
Still it sounds much, MUCH better than a standard Snapdragon DAC. Even on custom ROMs. And even more so on custom ROMs with V4A, if you're using MP3s.
I think you have to completely avoid midrange devices. The best choice is to get a high-end CPU even if it's one generation old. The SD6xx series are a world apart in terms of performance.
Also, why do you say that the dev community is losing interest? We lost 1 or 2 devs this year. It was always rather weak, but we're a cozy community and seemingly managed to push enough to get ZTE to get a working Camera2 API and some other stuff (time will tell).
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Sorry I should have made myself clear when I said mid to low tear phone, I was talking about price not internal specs. Totally agree the SD 820/821 chips might not be the latest and greatest but they are far from obsolete and still perform great... would be nice to have say an 835 but I am not in it for the numbers anyway.
As for my audio format, its a bit of a mix...minimum 320 Kbps to lossless, it really depends on where I got the files from. The max impedance on my best cans are 40 ohms so no studio level stuff.
As for the dev community losing interest...no offence intended, was only expressing my feelings on what I was told by Gases. Cosy is a good thing, its a powerful tool, means there is a passion for the product and if ZTE are listening...even better.
BTW happy new year!
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Totally agree on the LG thing, the G3 was a solid item on the outside but its internals were a different story...like I said manufactured obsolescence! Baking the motherboard on mine was its final death cry lol
Sorry I should have made myself clear when I said mid to low tear phone, I was talking about price not internal specs. Totally agree the SD 820/821 chips might not be the latest and greatest but they are far from obsolete and still perform great... would be nice to have say an 835 but I am not in it for the numbers anyway.
As for my audio format, its a bit of a mix...minimum 320 Kbps to lossless, it really depends on where I got the files from. The max impedance on my best cans are 40 ohms so no studio level stuff.
As for the dev community losing interest...no offence intended, was only expressing my feelings on what I was told by Gases. Cosy is a good thing, its a powerful tool, means there is a passion for the product and if ZTE are listening...even better.
BTW happy new year!
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You'll be OK with the Axon 7's DAC -its soundstage is clearly better and it has a lower noise level. The community is nowhere near dying out since most devs maintain only a few devices. And the SD820 still works good.
I don't believe the Axon 9 (I think they'll skip 8, like 2019) will be released before at least May or June. They said absolutely nothing aside from 'there will be a successor to the axon 7'.
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I would say yes, I bought mine in Nov last year and it was delivered in Dec. I am loving it every minute with zero issues that I am unhappy with. I bought it to replace a buggy Zenfone 3 (midrange) and I am totally pleased with it.
Cost is a major factor as I had already spent a load of money on the ZF3; it cost the same as a current midrange device (Xiaomi A1) and yet performance is twice of current midrange devices (double benchmark and QHD screen). Yes, it is nearly a 2 years old flagship, but the question is do I need that much firepower from a current flagship? My answer is not really, yours maybe different.
I do not root my phones, had a really bad experience when I hard bricked a device due to faulty instructions and then I got laugh at by the "community". So I only update my devices officially.
I also do not update my devices to the "last" update as I had bad experiences where a device became crap with the final update (likely due to it not able to handle the load?). So I update them once out of the box, and that it. My Axon 7 was updated from B11 to B09 when I got it and it is likely to stay on B09 until the day it dies, unless the feedback on future updates are very positive here. Again, you may use yours differently.
If you disregard all the numbers and technicalities and just want a good sounding phone to play your MP3 library off, you can't go wrong with the Axon 7.
I mostly use bluetooth but do plug in still.
I did this afternoon in the car. Feeding music to the car hifi by wire sounds awesome, for sure it's better than bluetooth and louder too. I just use MP3 and can still clearly hear a difference.
You don't need to be swallowing up 50Mb a song with hi res FLAC files to justify owning the phone.
I've got my Axon7 last month to replace dying Meizu MX4Pro. Few thoughts on the buy.
A7 is fantastic mid-range phone, I've managed to get it quite cheap in almost new condition (~€230).
Performance wise it is brilliant, no hiccups or anything (bear in mind I was coming from Android 5.0 2014 phone )
Now, the sound. I have mixed feelings on this. I'll tell you why.
The speakers are great, but when I say sound quality I mean the headphone out. I didn't have much time to compare it to MX4Pro and my DAP (Cayin N3 - same DAC chip as A7) but I still feel that A7 is lacking a bit. Defo less power than my old phone (or the DAP), I need to crank up the volume to get the detail and dynamics level I want. I'll be trying it with my old C&C amp to see if it will improve.
Don't get me wrong, sound quality is very good, I think it is just the power. But again, my only reference is DAP which has lot more power and one of the most musical phones that was manufactured to date (MX4 Pro has ESS9018 DAC and OPA1612 as an amp).
To sum up - lovely phone with good sound, sound is definitely better than 99% phones out there. If you can get it cheap(-ish) and don't mind 2 year old hardware go for it.
Well it is done...Axon 7 EU version is on it's way! Oooo new shiny's lol and the wait begins
And I put a sneaky order in for the BOBOVR Z5 daydream headset just to test the water with VR and daydream.
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docentore said:
I've got my Axon7 last month to replace dying Meizu MX4Pro. Few thoughts on the buy.
A7 is fantastic mid-range phone, I've managed to get it quite cheap in almost new condition (~€230).
Performance wise it is brilliant, no hiccups or anything (bear in mind I was coming from Android 5.0 2014 phone )
Now, the sound. I have mixed feelings on this. I'll tell you why.
The speakers are great, but when I say sound quality I mean the headphone out. I didn't have much time to compare it to MX4Pro and my DAP (Cayin N3 - same DAC chip as A7) but I still feel that A7 is lacking a bit. Defo less power than my old phone (or the DAP), I need to crank up the volume to get the detail and dynamics level I want. I'll be trying it with my old C&C amp to see if it will improve.
Don't get me wrong, sound quality is very good, I think it is just the power. But again, my only reference is DAP which has lot more power and one of the most musical phones that was manufactured to date (MX4 Pro has ESS9018 DAC and OPA1612 as an amp).
To sum up - lovely phone with good sound, sound is definitely better than 99% phones out there. If you can get it cheap(-ish) and don't mind 2 year old hardware go for it.
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What version of the A7 did you get? Is it on Nougat OS? If it's A2017G on Marshmallow it should improve on stock Nougat.
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Well it is done...Axon 7 EU version is on it's way! Oooo new shiny's lol and the wait begins
And I put a sneaky order in for the BOBOVR Z5 daydream headset just to test the water with VR and daydream.
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Got mine yesterday in the post from gearbest as a reluctant replacement for my Nexus 6 .
Reluctant, as I wanted to 'upgrade' so had to be amoled, stereo speakers, qhd etc to at least match the beast of a Nexus 6.
Just been using today and smaller screen size takes a bit of getting used to, but sound via speakers is on par with Nexus 6 I'd say not yet tried plug in headphones. Screen is much better and the build quality too.
Very pleased so far.
This weekend may see me attempt boot loader unlock, TWRP, Magisk and Lineage install; although I must say the ZTE implementation isn't half bad, and thats on Marshmellow.
May I ask where you found it for sale? Seems most places out of stock now, and felt quite lucky to snap one up.
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Got mine yesterday in the post from gearbest as a reluctant replacement for my Nexus 6 .
Reluctant, as I wanted to 'upgrade' so had to be amoled, stereo speakers, qhd etc to at least match the beast of a Nexus 6.
Just been using today and smaller screen size takes a bit of getting used to, but sound via speakers is on par with Nexus 6 I'd say not yet tried plug in headphones. Screen is much better and the build quality too.
Very pleased so far.
This weekend may see me attempt boot loader unlock, TWRP, Magisk and Lineage install; although I must say the ZTE implementation isn't half bad, and thats on Marshmellow.
May I ask where you found it for sale? Seems most places out of stock now, and felt quite lucky to snap one up.
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Fasttech had it listed...missed all the holiday discounts though and I think the fact that every other company have sold out has driven the price up on FT slightly but I am not really bothered...I am now hoping it slips past the folks at customs discreetly lol.
I need this to get here asap as my 5 yr old S4 is on its last legs...I think it must have caught something off my deceased LG G3 haha!
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I've had mine 2 weeks, and absolutely love it. It replaced a Sony Xperia Z4 (with the 810 which allowed the phone to double as a hot plate, foot warmer or small space heater.) The sound is everything I expected from the Sony and never got. The screen is beautiful. Battery life is amazing. The Z4 had a max of 3 hours life, and this Axon 7 has seen me through 10 hour days listening to bluetooth most of the day, with 35% batttery left. I found mine on Amazon for $317, the box was scuffed up, but everything inside was pristine and untouched. I'm rooted with WRP, Substratum and Xposed. I have not felt the need to leave stock 7.1.1 as of yet.
Stock Nougat is quite good. I find that here a lot of people are way too trigger happy on the flash custom ROM scene. I only do it if the phone needs it. Custom ROMs usually have issues.
ZTE will release an official and reasonably light Oreo for it this year too.
I think after that, good custom ROMs will follow as they released O sources to a well known dev. I personally wouldn't be bothered with any current Nougat customs seeing as O is coming.
I will probably upgrade and run the axon 7 stock for a few months same as I did with my G3.
ZTE have certainly extended the axon 7's presence in the market though bringing Oreo to it, all the major brands would have EOL'ed support to a device by now especially with it starting on Marshmallow.
Has anyone had the need to swap the battery out yet?
I know there are a couple of good teardown vids on YT and it doesn't look too bad.
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What version of the A7 did you get? Is it on Nougat OS? If it's A2017G on Marshmallow it should improve on stock Nougat.
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its A2017G on Nougat, it starts to grow on me. I've sold my DAP already because I like the sound so much.
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Stock Nougat is quite good. I find that here a lot of people are way too trigger happy on the flash custom ROM scene. I only do it if the phone needs it. Custom ROMs usually have issues.
ZTE will release an official and reasonably light Oreo for it this year too.
I think after that, good custom ROMs will follow as they released O sources to a well known dev. I personally wouldn't be bothered with any current Nougat customs seeing as O is coming.
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With my previous (pre MX4Pro) Android phones I was first to flash custom ROMs. But with A7 I'm happy so far with stock Nougat. Miss the root for few things, but I have too much stuff on the phone and too little time to bother with unlocking bootloader and rooting it as I understand I will loose all present data.
Now, when the Oreo comes, that might change
Does anyone else think that even years later this phone is still a fantastic phone even in line with mainstream phones coming out now? I've passed up on upgrading on my contract 2 years running now, since my mate gave me the le max 2 not long after it came out. Even looking at the latest Samsung's and and other top of the range phones coming out, I don't see any point in upgrading, the le max with the latest roms that are still being developed, and this phone, I believe is on a par with anything, the hardware is great, I've not had a single issue with anything on this phone at all, not even a slight blip, it's been %1000 solid and I believe will be for a long time still. I look at the latest phones on the market and think, what benefits are there over this, and I see none at all, this phone still runs smooth as butter, runs anything I've ever attempted to play on it perfectly. I just can't believe how good it's been, I don't plan on getting rid of it any time soon and never in my life have I had the same phone for so long, but to not have a single fault with it in all that time either, just makes this a brilliant phone. That's all I wanted to say haha, and maybe see if anyone else agrees with me?
Heyyo, I most definitely do as well! It's really impressive how much tech they crammed into this device while keeping it really affordable. It was more than $100 CAD cheaper than a OnePlus 3 and an official release of LineageOS was all the confidence I needed to buy one.
It works great for me and yeah I also don't really see a reason to upgrade heh.
It's really too bad that Jia Yeuting screwed up LeEco so bad when the Le Max 2 and Le Pro3 and their friendliness to unlocking bootloader and kernel source code were examples of how much potential LeEco had if they kept up with devices like this...
I'll be keeping my Le Max 2 for quite and while and keep contributing to the community ROM scene as much as I can! We will continue the work that LeEco started. :good:
Yeah it is great, and the best part for me is I didn't even pay for mine I have a friend who works for twitter and they basically give him a new phone every few months, to use, but to also test out and stuff at the same time, this was one of them. He gave me last year the nexus something or other, I used it for 5 minutes then put it straight on ebay
I have not updated my rom for like a year or so, and I was starting to worry about the lack of security patches and stuff so decided to freshen it up, and I was shocked how active development still is. Just shows that even if nobody else posts here, this phone is still super popular and widely used
A year ago I was starting to get frustrated with it, but then Google Camera HDR+ happened plus a stable Oreo and it's a totally new device now! All thanks to the amazing work of the community!
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A year ago I was starting to get frustrated with it, but then Google Camera HDR+ happened plus a stable Oreo and it's a totally new device now! All thanks to the amazing work of the community!
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I know, it is great, my sister just got the galaxy s9 and thinking she was great, I was like your phone cost like triple the price mine did brand new and doesn't really do anything that mine doesn't. What made it even funnier was the fact that hers only has android 8.0 and thanks to the awesome devs on here, mine has 8.1 she was not happy With this new rom it really is a whole new phone and I love it even more now, I did briefly brick it last night haha, but managed to sort it out thanks to the brilliant TWRP and adb sideload
Still loving mine after... a couple of months short of two years I think. Was really future-proofed with 4GB RAM, fast UFS storage, 1440p display and best of all the beast SD820 which has aged well and is still respectably powerful. What a bargain. And the fantastic Oreo custom ROMs we now have make it even better than it was originally and keep it bang up to date and relevant. There are just two things I wish were different about the phone - I wish it had better battery life, and I wish it had black top and chin bezels because the black borders on the display look bloody ugly with the gold top and bottom and would be much less noticeable if all black.
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Still loving mine after... a couple of months short of two years I think. Was really future-proofed with 4GB RAM, fast UFS storage, 1440p display and best of all the beast SD820 which has aged well and is still respectably powerful. What a bargain. And the fantastic Oreo custom ROMs we now have make it even better than it was originally and keep it bang up to date and relevant. There are just two things I wish were different about the phone - I wish it had better battery life, and I wish it had black top and chin bezels because the black borders on the display look bloody ugly with the gold top and bottom and would be much less noticeable if all black.
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Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Heyyo, if you want as much battery life as possible? Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the Oreo ROM that focuses on that. :good:
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl
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Heyyo, if you want as much battery life as possible? Resurrection Remix Power Saver is the Oreo ROM that focuses on that. :good:
RRPS-O International
https://t.me/rrpsointl
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Oh cool, please would you post the link for me? I see three RR ROMs in development section.
I do believe it was RR that I came from, but I installed that last rom over a year ago so can't quite remember haha
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Exactly it's still running perfectly now even compared to the latest phones. The black screen edges have never bothered me, but you're not the only person I've seen that doesn't like them. As for the battery, mine was fantastic, would last 2 days easy, even with an average amount of usage, only now I've updated to Oreo, the battery is much much worse, so may need to try all the latest ROMs to find one with the best battery life.
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Which ROM did you used that you got 2 days of battery life?
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Which ROM did you used that you got 2 days of battery life?
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I couldn't tell you, until the other day, the last time I'd flashed a new ROM was over a year ago, but like I said, I think it could have been RR, but either way that rom is old, a year plus. And I'm not talking two days heavy use, was like 2 days of average use sending messages, the odd phone call, Google searches and stuff like that.
Excellent phone.
I bought this phone for 200$ a year ago and till now I haven't found any smartphone as good as le max 2 under 250$.
All my friends also like this phone very much.
Only con for me was the crappy Chinese UI which came in build but thanks to the excellent development group, stable oreo roms have taken this phone to a new level.
I will use this phone for another 2 years.
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I bought this phone for 200$ a year ago and till now I haven't found any smartphone as good as le max 2 under 250$.
All my friends also like this phone very much.
Only con for me was the crappy Chinese UI which came in build but thanks to the excellent development group, stable oreo roms have taken this phone to a new level.
I will use this phone for another 2 years.
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Yeah that was the only downside, all the Chinese junk on it. But yeah the custom ROMs make it perfect. I am surprised because there was less development going on for this phone when it first came out than there is now. And I agree, I genuinely believe I'll be using this for another 2 years easily, if not more. I just don't see any upside to paying out money for a new phone that would not perform any better than this already does, and may only have an extra hardware feature or something else like that. I mean even if a new phone had triple the ram and triple the CPU power, what's the point? This phone runs everything perfectly fine, no amount of power is going to make a smoother experience than something that's already as smooth as you can get haha. I get no lag at all doing anything with this phone, and I've never had any issues running any games, even stuff I've seen that is incompatible with this device on the play store, I download it elsewhere and it runs perfectly haha. All I need to do is find another Oreo ROM with better battery than this one.
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Oh cool, please would you post the link for me? I see three RR ROMs in development section.
I do believe it was RR that I came from, but I installed that last rom over a year ago so can't quite remember haha
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I think he just released a new release candidate which isn't part of those last few work in progress builds so I'd search that group for replies by Sergey as he is the maintainer of rrps.
RR Nougat was officially maintained by andr68rus who has moved onto the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and there was an old and buggy Official release of RR O by unvesh but tbh they should just take that down as unvesh put out on release version and then bailed for a Xiaomi Mi A1...
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I think he just released a new release candidate which isn't part of those last few work in progress builds so I'd search that group for replies by Sergey as he is the maintainer of rrps.
RR Nougat was officially maintained by andr68rus who has moved onto the Xiaomi Mi Mix 2 and there was an old and buggy Official release of RR O by unvesh but tbh they should just take that down as unvesh put out on release version and then bailed for a Xiaomi Mi A1...
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Ah okay thanks for that. I'll have a proper look later from the computer. I'm sure my last ROM was RR but that was a marshmallow ROM, so pretty old, but the battery life was really good whatever it was haha.
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Ah okay thanks for that. I'll have a proper look later from the computer. I'm sure my last ROM was RR but that was a marshmallow ROM, so pretty old, but the battery life was really good whatever it was haha.
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Ah ok yeah for MarshMallow I'm pretty sure he also maintained it but that's quite a while back so I could be wrong hehe :silly:
He also maintained OmniRom official and AOKP unofficial and DU unofficial. They were pretty darn good. I really liked his AOKP Marshmallow builds they were slick.
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Ah ok yeah for MarshMallow I'm pretty sure he also maintained it but that's quite a while back so I could be wrong hehe :silly:
He also maintained OmniRom official and AOKP unofficial and DU unofficial. They were pretty darn good. I really liked his AOKP Marshmallow builds they were slick.
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Haha yeah it was over a year ago when I first used a custom ROM on this phone. It was only 3 days ago I finally upgraded to Oreo, mainly because I was worrying about the lack of any security patches in all that time. I'm really glad I did because it's like a new phone now, just a shame about the battery drain, I don't spend long periods out of my home so it's not a massive issue, I've been trying to find a fix for the network standbys battery drain which at the moment is using %30 of my battery and seems to be common to all Oreo ROMs and even the stock ROMs on new phones.
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Haha yeah it was over a year ago when I first used a custom ROM on this phone. It was only 3 days ago I finally upgraded to Oreo, mainly because I was worrying about the lack of any security patches in all that time. I'm really glad I did because it's like a new phone now, just a shame about the battery drain, I don't spend long periods out of my home so it's not a massive issue, I've been trying to find a fix for the network standbys battery drain which at the moment is using %30 of my battery and seems to be common to all Oreo ROMs and even the stock ROMs on new phones.
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Heyyo, unfortunately that is the Achilles heel of the Le Max 2... Cellular radio. The hardware is not very good compared to other devices released around the same time for the radio antennas in our device which is why a common complaint about the Le Max 2 is low signal quality a lot of the time...
On LineageOS 15.1 I tried to mitigate that issue by using Xiaomi Mi5 (Gemini) vendor blobs for all cellular radio activities but it's still a bandaid on a broken bone and only does so much... I don't know of any hardware mods to improve the cellular radio antennas on our device which in theory would do a better job of fixing the issue
Agreed this phone is still a beast. I've been on Omnirom 7.1.2 without problems since I got it and have felt no need to upgrade to Oreo. Are there any actual plusses, apart from reduced battery life?
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Heyyo, unfortunately that is the Achilles heel of the Le Max 2... Cellular radio. The hardware is not very good compared to other devices released around the same time for the radio antennas in our device which is why a common complaint about the Le Max 2 is low signal quality a lot of the time...
On LineageOS 15.1 I tried to mitigate that issue by using Xiaomi Mi5 (Gemini) vendor blobs for all cellular radio activities but it's still a bandaid on a broken bone and only does so much... I don't know of any hardware mods to improve the cellular radio antennas on our device which in theory would do a better job of fixing the issue
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To be honest I never even knew there was an issue with the radio, I've never had any issues with low signal, in fact I switch my network from LTE to gsm/wcdma preferred so I only get 3g not 4g as on 3g my signal is much better and I get up to 3 mb/s downloads and on 4g is usually less than 1 mb/s so in theory the radio should use less power with a good signal as it only boosts the power in low signal situations. Also on my last ROM I never had an issue with it draining battery, after draining a full charge, network standby was usually around %5-%10 of the total usage, since coming to Oreo a full drain to %1 has network standby as %30 of the total drain.
Hey guys, Ive noticed that older devices like oneplus 5t and newer devices like oneplus 7 have better developer support . However, OP6T does not seem to get such love from the devs. Why is that so??
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=80538403&postcount=3533
I'll do my best to explain my understanding:
In this current month, OnePlus is pushing out two new phones (7T and 7T Pro) and working on supporting the smart TV they just released in India. The OnePlus 6T is not their primary focus by any standard. They're busy keeping the 7 and 7T series as current as possible to push their sales. I'm not a software developer, and I don't know how big OnePlus' development team is, nor do I know what they're tasked with. I was eager to experience Android 10 on the 6T myself, but the newer devices come first in terms of software support. That's part of the reason why you don't see development moving along very quickly. For the 6T, we don't have official Android 10-based firmware or proper sources to build with. What kinda development is gonna pop up when you have no sources to work with? Not much, I'll tell ya that.
I think op is asking about custom rom support and if so there is one simple answer. There is no need because oos is THAT GOOD! Put that in your survey. And as far as custom roms go the OP 6T has quite a few good choices when compared to the 7 which has almost zero.
Short answer? It's almost a year old. In the "smartphone" world...that's old
Indisplay FP was a massive hold up on top of their quick model releases hence op6 having more options
Hi, I'm just sign in to say calm down, guys, android 10 will officially come this month, check the oneplus telegram channel. Why is this late? 3 reasons here:
Oneplus 7
Oneplus 7t (yes, newer devices always come first when it is about updates)
officially claimed errors in developing the ROM and they don't want to release a piece of sh** as other manufacturers do in order to rush updates --> they want to release an update that can give us that buttery smooth user experienxe we all got used to
Maybe this is a little shortsighted, but I think the wiping the entire device and losing your data thing scares a lot of people away from switching back and forth on this phone and probably slowed the demand down for more custom ROMs. It's very time consuming and easy to screw up if you don't do it all the time. The slow data speed of the USB-c port also plays a role in how slow it is to back up stuff to your PC and then load everything back up after.
I know other OP phones have this issue too, but combine that with the fingerprint problem and the quick release of OP phones since the 6t came out, I think you have a perfect storm of people just happy enough with OOS, and maybe jumping to the beta program.
Having come from a lot of other phone brands in the past, there is a lot less clamoring for certain custom ROMs because people actually like OOS, versus whatever Samsung, LG, or HTC put out in years past. Just my opinion though.
Google implementation is not always the best Devs try to do the best but sometimes things not help in this case the encryption by hardware plus partitions a/b and the massive headache for most people and devs trying to make things a lot easier for example look here OP6T Custom Roms everyone has different flashing instructions……make sense? And maybe One Plus is to pay the Google failures implementing things that in the long run need be reverted well this is my opinion in Android world
xgerryx said:
Maybe this is a little shortsighted, but I think the wiping the entire device and losing your data thing scares a lot of people away from switching back and forth on this phone and probably slowed the demand down for more custom ROMs. It's very time consuming and easy to screw up if you don't do it all the time. The slow data speed of the USB-c port also plays a role in how slow it is to back up stuff to your PC and then load everything back up after.
I know other OP phones have this issue too, but combine that with the fingerprint problem and the quick release of OP phones since the 6t came out, I think you have a perfect storm of people just happy enough with OOS, and maybe jumping to the beta program.
Having come from a lot of other phone brands in the past, there is a lot less clamoring for certain custom ROMs because people actually like OOS, versus whatever Samsung, LG, or HTC put out in years past. Just my opinion though.
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I personally hate OOS - crappy UI and battery guzzler.
I cant change fonts , no theme support etc without root unlike many manufacturers like Huawei and Samsung.
Plus, the so called "speed" is not there on my phone - stock oos is laggy af
The only custom ROM that seems to work in a stable fashion (except fingerprints) is cr droid - other roms dont seem to work and always fail to install on my Oneplus 6T.
I regret buying this phone - i had the oneplus one earlier and it still has better rom support despite being obsolete.
I shall never buy a OnePlus again - maybe Samsung or Huawei it is for the next time..
chcheetah said:
I personally hate OOS - crappy UI and battery guzzler.
I cant change fonts , no theme support etc without root unlike many manufacturers like Huawei and Samsung.
Plus, the so called "speed" is not there on my phone - stock oos is laggy af
The only custom ROM that seems to work in a stable fashion (except fingerprints) is cr droid - other roms dont seem to work and always fail to install on my Oneplus 6T.
I regret buying this phone - i had the oneplus one earlier and it still has better rom support despite being obsolete.
I shall never buy a OnePlus again - maybe Samsung or Huawei it is for the next time..
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I have to respectfully disagree. I know everyone's experience is their own and all have varying opinions on software.
However, OOS is highly regarded as one of the best "stock" Android operating systems on the market. It's very close to vanilla Android as what the pixel devices run. I've been a Nexus/pixel user since the Nexus 5 and left the Google line to check out this whole OnePlus hype that came with a smaller price tag.
I regret nothing about purchasing this phone. OOS is phenomenal. It's basically vanilla Android with subtle improvements in the UI that just make sense and create a more fluid experience without thinking about it. The RAM on this phone is ridiculous and has a ton of speed. My pixel use to get hot all the time with intense use....I can't remember the last time my 6t heated up on me (keep in mind I don't game on my phone).
As for third party development, I think we have it pretty good. There's at least 5 stable custom ROMs to choose from and hell I lost count on the kernels. I'm running skydragon ROM and easily push over 7hrs of SOT daily. Easily change system fonts and colors.
Not to mention edXposed is a thing now. You can run Xposed on stock OOS install gravity box (the king of themeing) and make your phone look ENTIRELY different.
All I'm trying to say is, we have it pretty damn good. I'll be running and crack flashing this phone for at least another year.
Pain-N-Panic said:
I have to respectfully disagree. I know everyone's experience is their own and all have varying opinions on software.
However, OOS is highly regarded as one of the best "stock" Android operating systems on the market. It's very close to vanilla Android as what the pixel devices run. I've been a Nexus/pixel user since the Nexus 5 and left the Google line to check out this whole OnePlus hype that came with a smaller price tag.
I regret nothing about purchasing this phone. OOS is phenomenal. It's basically vanilla Android with subtle improvements in the UI that just make sense and create a more fluid experience without thinking about it. The RAM on this phone is ridiculous and has a ton of speed. My pixel use to get hot all the time with intense use....I can't remember the last time my 6t heated up on me (keep in mind I don't game on my phone).
As for third party development, I think we have it pretty good. There's at least 5 stable custom ROMs to choose from and hell I lost count on the kernels. I'm running skydragon ROM and easily push over 7hrs of SOT daily. Easily change system fonts and colors.
Not to mention edXposed is a thing now. You can run Xposed on stock OOS install gravity box (the king of themeing) and make your phone look ENTIRELY different.
All I'm trying to say is, we have it pretty damn good. I'll be running and crack flashing this phone for at least another year.
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Well maybe your phone won the silicon lottery- cuz my phone doesn't seem to be as fast as its competition.
I have the 8 gig ram model - just below the McLaren edition. It has had issues from the time I've bought it - constant lag , overheating while on oos.
I took.it.for diagnosis to oneplus service centre - they had no clue as to what was happening!
Then, what i decided to.do was to search for custom ROMs . I found that there were no stable ROMs and i had to bear the stock rom till i found a semi stable build of cr droid. What i feel is that ever since oneplus has released this specific phone, they have gone lax on software and have stopped actually innovating (not in terms of hardware, in terms of their initial outreach for solid budget friendly nexus esque devices that have unfortunately imo now bloated into the expensive POS gimmicks they sell now.)
Just in case you want to know what oos i had , i had oos 9.0.10. I couldn't even play any YouTube or audio, forget phonecalls.
But that might not.be the case for you - chinese phones tend to follow this trend of lottery and maybe the way people use their phones varies.
Haha, there is plenty of development. Those talking about Huawei and Samsung, buy one of their new phones and see how much development there is....
OhioYJ said:
Haha, there is plenty of development. Those talking about Huawei and Samsung, buy one of their new phones and see how much development there is....
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Atleast their phones can play youtube on stock rom ha ha
chcheetah said:
Well maybe your phone won the silicon lottery- cuz my phone doesn't seem to be as fast as its competition.
I have the 8 gig ram model - just below the McLaren edition. It has had issues from the time I've bought it - constant lag , overheating while on oos.
I took.it.for diagnosis to oneplus service centre - they had no clue as to what was happening!
Then, what i decided to.do was to search for custom ROMs . I found that there were no stable ROMs and i had to bear the stock rom till i found a semi stable build of cr droid. What i feel is that ever since oneplus has released this specific phone, they have gone lax on software and have stopped actually innovating (not in terms of hardware, in terms of their initial outreach for solid budget friendly nexus esque devices that have unfortunately imo now bloated into the expensive POS gimmicks they sell now.)
Just in case you want to know what oos i had , i had oos 9.0.10. I couldn't even play any YouTube or audio, forget phonecalls.
But that might not.be the case for you - chinese phones tend to follow this trend of lottery and maybe the way people use their phones varies.
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Hi, McLaren user here.
Before buying this device I was using Pixel 2XL, my 6T destroys it completely in performance, I know 835 vs 845 isn't a fair comparison, but the difference is too much to blame the processor, a thing as simple as taking a picture is an extremely slow process in my Pixel because when I open the camera app I have to wait 3-4 seconds to take the picture (The app opens, but the viewfinder is black and the shutter button can't be pressed) while with this device it's: open the camera and the app is ready to take the picture, and the performance in general (Transitions, apps opening, etc, etc) is much better on this device, I don't remember having lag or some kind of slowdown on this device (You should never say never, but I think that this case could be an exception), I'm not a "light" user, I use my device for work, studies and life in general.
I only remember one episode of overheating and it was my fault (Summer, the device was charging and I had the great idea of playing asfalt 8, yes you can call me dumb lol). Maybe it's a hardware problem? It seems too strange to me, I know many people with this device and the only problems in common are: The terrible memory management that OOS does, and the quality of the camera.
Regarding custom roms: for almost two months I was using AOSIP 9 + Neutrino, and I was very happy, I even had the feeling that the fingerprint sensor worked better in that rom than in OOS and the memory management great (A huge amount of apps loaded in memory without any problem, that was a pleasure), a week ago I flashed AOSIP 10 and I was quite surprised, obviously it was not as stable as 9 but I was expecting something worse sincerely, I went back to OOS because the safetynet failed and I use Google Pay quite often, but ignoring that problem I think I could use it as a daily driver without major problems.
I think my comments seem very pro-OnePlus but my experience with this device is very good, and as I said before I find the problems you have very strange, maybe you should send the device to OnePlus again, saying that you have some super strange problem or something so so weird like: hey, my device starts lagging and then shuts down randomly, I don't know, maybe you are lucky and they send you a new one.
Edit: Answering the main thread question:
The OnePlus 6 had many users, and the 6 > 6T change was not a great evolution, then the 7 and 7Pro were released, so many switched to that device.
In addition, the on-screen fingerprint sensor was something new, Android did not support it natively and each OEM opted for its own implementation, OnePlus made a somewhat strange implementation by calling it somehow, phhusson did reverse engineering of the Xiaomi HAL and made great contributions to this device, that helped a lot, but perhaps those contributions came too late, OnePlus 7 was very close to being launched and many people were waiting for it to make the swtich.
onliner said:
Hi, McLaren user here.
Before buying this device I was using Pixel 2XL, my 6T destroys it completely in performance, I know 835 vs 845 isn't a fair comparison, but the difference is too much to blame the processor, a thing as simple as taking a picture is an extremely slow process in my Pixel, and the performance in general (Transitions, apps opening, etc, etc) is much better on this device, I don't remember having lag or some kind of slowdown on this device (You should never say never, but I think that this case could be an exception), I'm not a "light" user, I use my device for work, studies and life in general.
I only remember one episode of overheating and it was my fault (Summer, the device was charging and I had the great idea of playing asfalt 8, yes you can call me dumb lol). Maybe it's a hardware problem? It seems too strange to me, I know many people with this device and the only problems in common are: The terrible memory management that OOS does, and the quality of the camera.
Regarding custom roms: for almost two months I was using AOSIP 9 + Neutrino, and I was very happy, I even had the feeling that the fingerprint sensor worked better in that rom than in OOS and the memory management great (A huge amount of apps loaded in memory without any problem, that was a pleasure), a week ago I flashed AOSIP 10 and I was quite surprised, obviously it was not as stable as 9 but I was expecting something worse sincerely, I went back to OOS because the safetynet failed and I use Google Pay quite often, but ignoring that problem I think I could use it as a daily driver without major problems.
I think my comments seem very pro-OnePlus but my experience with this device is very good, and as I said before I find the problems you have very strange, maybe you should send the device to OnePlus again, saying that you have some super strange problem or something so so weird like: hey, my device starts lagging and then shuts down randomly, I don't know, maybe you are lucky and they send you a new one.
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Hmm your suggestion sounds right - lemme try contacting the OnePlus service centre again.
I honestly love the look and feel of the OnePlus 6T ( i have the mirror black- almost similar to McLaren except for the lack of orange shimmer) but the constant lag and overheating made me write such a negative view of the device.
Plus , sadly the dev scene is not so hot as their older phone ( Remember OnePlus One - how cool the modding scene was for that phone )