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Hi Everyone,
Searched for this topic and couldn't find a thread on this. Anyone have any experience with these headunits? I've seen them advertised for BMW, Mercedes replacement headunits. Apparently they run Android 5.0, have 1gb of ram, so I'm assuming they are some variant of the PX3 or RK3188 chipset, and they are also rooted per some other users.
Here is a link to the one I bought although they are available through a host of other resellers as well:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-25-HD-A...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
1. Keep original CD/Radio function,no need tear down the original car's CD/radio player.
2. 10.25"hd capacitive touch screen, resolution (1280*480)
3. BT Phone Book, BT music
4. MP5/SD/USB/1080P playing/AV
5. Reversing tracks display
6. Built in special Can Bus decode box
7. Built in GPS, compatible with 2D/3D map
8. Compatible with external DVR/360°panorama /Auto reversing viewing
11.OSD Language:English/Chinese/Taiwan etc.
12.Support Phone Link
13.Platform:Android 5.0
14.Power Supply: DC 10.8- 14.4V
15.GUI: Similar to AUDI original navigation system GUI
16.Support MMI control
I've gone into the settings and there is no real information there. Is there a way to go into recovery on these units and get an image dump to figure out how we can modify some of the settings? The two that I would like to adjust are the temperature readout in degrees Farenheit instead of Celcius and the distance in MPH instead of Km/h. Thanks.
Do you have any videos over-viewing the system, This looks interesting
Yes, If you do a youtube search for 10.25 android, you should be able to pull up a number of videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kCFLNeIl24 is one from Chris, one of the resellers that is active on the other forums and provides some support for install and such.
One of the drawbacks seems to be that the temp and speed are locked to the metric system and not imperial that is commonly used in the US.
I just installed mine on my 2010 C300. Liking it so far but would like to be able to root it so I can use folder mount to store app data to SD card. By the way, where is the SD sd slot? Also, I can't get phone mirroring to work.
Do they have them in 10.1" ? Some 10.1" units seem more up-to-date and more ram
Looks like on android 5.0 you can use sd card as main storage to install apps so I won't need to root. I'm going to try a 64 gb card and see if it's recognized.
Also if you guys are brave enough, maybe this root method will work on these. Although it's only been done on the android 4.4.4 of the 10.25 inch Avin units.
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=22191036&postcount=391
d3funct said:
Do they have them in 10.1" ? Some 10.1" units seem more up-to-date and more ram
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I have a 10.1" in my other car and you are right, the 10.1" units are more up to date, more recent version of android, 2gb of ram and a faster processor usually. They are very responsive. Unfortunately, for the 10.2" units, these are made for specific BMW, Mercedes cars (and others?) that do not have other screen options since other size screens would look out of place or are not specifically made for these cars. Hope that helps.
aznmode said:
I just installed mine on my 2010 C300. Liking it so far but would like to be able to root it so I can use folder mount to store app data to SD card. By the way, where is the SD sd slot? Also, I can't get phone mirroring to work.
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The SD card slot is on the back of the monitor/screen on the right (passenger) side. There should also be a slot for a sim card, but from what I read in the other forums, it seems that sim cards are not working? Not sure on that.
As far as I know, it already comes rooted, so don't think you need to root. Have you been able to install SuperSU from the play store? I'm having some problems with my install since it seems mine did not ship with the right cable, so haven't messed around the OS yet.
Anyone able to get an image dump to look into some of the options?
harlam said:
The SD card slot is on the back of the monitor/screen on the right (passenger) side. There should also be a slot for a sim card, but from what I read in the other forums, it seems that sim cards are not working? Not sure on that.
As far as I know, it already comes rooted, so don't think you need to root. Have you been able to install SuperSU from the play store? I'm having some problems with my install since it seems mine did not ship with the right cable, so haven't messed around the OS yet.
Anyone able to get an image dump to look into some of the options?
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Thanks. Found out about the sd card slot from mother BMW forum.
I would check if I can install supersu but I can't install any more apps. I've only installed waze, gboard, LMT pie. It shows I have 12 gb of space left in internal but even if I select internal storage as installation memory, it still tells me I'm out of space. Are you able to install more apps?
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harlam said:
The SD card slot is on the back of the monitor/screen on the right (passenger) side. There should also be a slot for a sim card, but from what I read in the other forums, it seems that sim cards are not working? Not sure on that.
As far as I know, it already comes rooted, so don't think you need to root. Have you been able to install SuperSU from the play store? I'm having some problems with my install since it seems mine did not ship with the right cable, so haven't messed around the OS yet.
Anyone able to get an image dump to look into some of the options?
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I removed Waze so I can install supersu but supersu states I'm not rooted. So I do not think these come rooted. Maybe someone got lucky and got one rooted.
Another question for you. When you are listening to OEM radio and you switch to youtube, does your audio switch? I thought mine did the other day but now it won't. When I play youtube videos, the stock radio audio is still present and won't switch over unless I go back to the command and set audio from AM/FM to Aux.
Weird. Got into my car again for lunch and audio auto switch worked again from OEM radio to youtube. Then I switched back to OEM Radio then back to youtube and it didn't auto switch. So i thought maybe it only works after a reboot so I did a restart on the android side under settings > system. Car was still on and Radio still playing while screen rebooted. After complete reboot, went to youtube again and still audio didn't auto switch.
Will try it again when I'm off work when the car has not been restarted for a few hours. Maybe once the car has completely shut down is when it will work.
UPDATE: Fix for my memory issue (for now)
Root with Kingroot
Install Foldermount and move app data to SD card (I currently have a 32gb sd card in the unit)
harlam said:
Hi Everyone,
Searched for this topic and couldn't find a thread on this. Anyone have any experience with these headunits? I've seen them advertised for BMW, Mercedes replacement headunits. Apparently they run Android 5.0, have 1gb of ram, so I'm assuming they are some variant of the PX3 or RK3188 chipset, and they are also rooted per some other users.
Here is a link to the one I bought although they are available through a host of other resellers as well:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/10-25-HD-A...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
1. Keep original CD/Radio function,no need tear down the original car's CD/radio player.
2. 10.25"hd capacitive touch screen, resolution (1280*480)
3. BT Phone Book, BT music
4. MP5/SD/USB/1080P playing/AV
5. Reversing tracks display
6. Built in special Can Bus decode box
7. Built in GPS, compatible with 2D/3D map
8. Compatible with external DVR/360°panorama /Auto reversing viewing
11.OSD Language:English/Chinese/Taiwan etc.
12.Support Phone Link
13.Platform:Android 5.0
14.Power Supply: DC 10.8- 14.4V
15.GUI: Similar to AUDI original navigation system GUI
16.Support MMI control
I've gone into the settings and there is no real information there. Is there a way to go into recovery on these units and get an image dump to figure out how we can modify some of the settings? The two that I would like to adjust are the temperature readout in degrees Farenheit instead of Celcius and the distance in MPH instead of Km/h. Thanks.
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Do you have issues where the OEM output won't show up on screen? Android side is still there however.
Anyone know where we can get the home luancher APK for W204?
aznmode said:
Anyone know where we can get the home luancher APK for W204?
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Hi,
I managed to get the complete firmware and other update files from my supplier. The files include the BCLauncher.apk that is the actual home launcher for the Mercedes units. I have tried to unpack it but it seems to be password protected.
I noticed you have posted some very informative info on this unit at mbworld. If you are interested I can send you the files to play around with, maybe you can find a way to crack that launcher. Just PM me here or over at mbworld. I am really itching to make some long overdue changes to that launcher....
Hi ... i’m keen to see if I could make some improvement on the launcher and firmware ... would you mind uploading to Dropbox or Google drIve hence I can download and have a try could you also share some screenshots for the home screen, system version for reference. Thanks.
I’ve got the same issue for the off market tablet on my Benz too, can you please share the files to me too?
I have one of that display in my cla 45 amg. With root and some modding it is not bad. But they are not running android 5.1.1 like it says. When you look in build.prop you will find api number of 4.2.2
so i played today with my display and i debloated it (removed all unneded apps like telephone, contacts, wallpapers etc etc) and created a swap partition on my external sd card and with kernel auditor changed the governour from hotplug to ondemand one. now the display is faster and for example it dont needs anymore 30 seconds for open spotify. i cant upload a rom since my display have a modded scatter file for have 3gb data partition and not only 1gb
I'm thinking of getting one for my W204 C-Class. However, i don't like the "style" that much. Does anyone know if there is a 7" or 8,8" Version of those HUs out there, that integrate with the factory control joystick of the Mercedes?
Hello. I recently bought a headunit from Junsun with 4GB of RAM and 64GB storage (it seems that the other versions from Junsun do not have this SoC). Let's collect all information about this version only so we can help each other. I just installed this headunit in a Kia Ceed 2 from 2017. I did not take any screenshots of the software information, but I will add them as soon as I have them.
hi, I have rcently installed this radio on VW Golf 7. I have ine doubt because the radio looks like don't turn off when ignition is off, because when I turn on the car again, the radio start from the main screen. It means the radio don't turn off when the car is off, and on whe the ignition is on. and looks like the radio keep resting but on (with a low battery consumption).
I want the radio switch off automatically when I the igniton is off.
is it possible? do you know any option to change that?
@Balti Lopez: I am returning mine, but I checked the settings. Go to Car Settings (you should have it too), then go to Common and there should be a Sleep option set to ON. You should turn that option to OFF.
tmihai20 said:
@Balti Lopez: I am returning mine, but I checked the settings. Go to Car Settings (you should have it too), then go to Common and there should be a Sleep option set to ON. You should turn that option to OFF.
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May I know what made you decide to return your unit?
gpmg762 said:
May I know what made you decide to return your unit?
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I have 2 major issues: OBD BT app is not launching for me (Junsun support said it is my adapter's fault, the same adapter that they are selling). I tried all I could. The second issue is that it does not recognize any USB stick. I found out yesterday that the USB stick I was using it dead (not sure if it is because of the headunit). Without an USB stick I would not be able to update my headunit (not that there would be an update). When I kind of snapped at them, they just said it is my problem or that I should wait for their engineer to reply. Basically I got my product on November 19-20 and the week after that was spent with me writing them.
My personal take on the software is that it is too simple. I cannot use any of the car launchers I found (like Agama) because the system apps are only available in the default launcher. It is unfortunate because I wanted an unit with 4G/LTE (mobile Internet is working very well). I was fooled that it had a lot of reviews and a lot of orders, but most were mixed. I put it in a Kia Ceed 2 and I found on a Russian forum that Junsun has been put on a blacklist because there are plenty users not happy with their products. I had some issues with the frame for my Kia, it did not fit, some users said they cut the frame (I cut one of the plastic feet).
I have bought Junsun 2/32 4G! I also have problems and I can't solve them with messages! I open dispute and they asked me to cancel it! I wonder if I would like to update firmware where I can find newer version? At settings model is 825X Pro!
tmihai20 said:
I have 2 major issues: OBD BT app is not launching for me (Junsun support said it is my adapter's fault, the same adapter that they are selling). I tried all I could. The second issue is that it does not recognize any USB stick. I found out yesterday that the USB stick I was using it dead (not sure if it is because of the headunit). Without an USB stick I would not be able to update my headunit (not that there would be an update). When I kind of snapped at them, they just said it is my problem or that I should wait for their engineer to reply. Basically I got my product on November 19-20 and the week after that was spent with me writing them.
My personal take on the software is that it is too simple. I cannot use any of the car launchers I found (like Agama) because the system apps are only available in the default launcher. It is unfortunate because I wanted an unit with 4G/LTE (mobile Internet is working very well). I was fooled that it had a lot of reviews and a lot of orders, but most were mixed. I put it in a Kia Ceed 2 and I found on a Russian forum that Junsun has been put on a blacklist because there are plenty users not happy with their products. I had some issues with the frame for my Kia, it did not fit, some users said they cut the frame (I cut one of the plastic feet).
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I have the same issue, on my seat ibiza seek button on wheel don't work
pakyweb said:
I have the same issue, on my seat ibiza seek button on wheel don't work
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I did not have any issues to map the button on my Kia Ceed 2 Steering wheel (2017 model). I cannot debug my unit anymore, I returned it to Germany last Friday.
tmihai20 said:
I have 2 major issues: OBD BT app is not launching for me (Junsun support said it is my adapter's fault, the same adapter that they are selling). I tried all I could. The second issue is that it does not recognize any USB stick. I found out yesterday that the USB stick I was using it dead (not sure if it is because of the headunit). Without an USB stick I would not be able to update my headunit (not that there would be an update). When I kind of snapped at them, they just said it is my problem or that I should wait for their engineer to reply. Basically I got my product on November 19-20 and the week after that was spent with me writing them.
My personal take on the software is that it is too simple. I cannot use any of the car launchers I found (like Agama) because the system apps are only available in the default launcher. It is unfortunate because I wanted an unit with 4G/LTE (mobile Internet is working very well). I was fooled that it had a lot of reviews and a lot of orders, but most were mixed. I put it in a Kia Ceed 2 and I found on a Russian forum that Junsun has been put on a blacklist because there are plenty users not happy with their products. I had some issues with the frame for my Kia, it did not fit, some users said they cut the frame (I cut one of the plastic feet).
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I solved the launcher issue by installing radio apk from “for_launchers” zip file found in this forum
laldoma said:
I solved the launcher issue by installing radio apk from “for_launchers” zip file found in this forum
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I know the file, I have it too. Good to know.
laldoma said:
I solved the launcher issue by installing radio apk from “for_launchers” zip file found in this forum
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Hi. I want to have Internet connection using phone data, by connecting the unit with mobile via bluetooth tethering.
I have paired phone and unit, I have enabled in unit bluetooth connectivity and I have enabled in phone settings Bluetooth tethering but I don't have Internet connection in unit. What else can I do?
Hi,
here my experience with Junsun V1 Pro with MTK 8259 (detailed spec. of device in below screenshots).
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My car is:
Mazda 3, produced 2010 (type BL).
1. The radio station memory is cleared after rebooting the device (i.e. after setting differen CAN Type), so I must always to set the radio channels from beginnig on.
>> this I can handle since I don't have to play with CAN Type setting all the time.
2. I cannot pin any widget, or any shortcut of an app the to any of the home screens! The system hangs up when I trying to pin something.
>> this is to solve by different launcher. I have tried with Nova launcher and took radio, bleutooth etc. app from “for_launchers” zip file. Was working fine.
3. During using a navigation app the music from radio and sounds from navi are not mixed. Radio is playing and when navi sound comes, then radio is reduced and overplayed, I couldn't find option to change it.
>> in the end nothing special, it is a matter of expectation and taste.
4. The reverse camera (gift from Junsun) is not working afer installation according to diagrams.
>> this stays unsolved...
5. After switching car gear to reverse any backview as Warning Line or as Assistance Line are not working, not appearing!
>> is unsolved,
maybe connected with issue no 4. (system doesn't detect camera, so also deosn't activate any backview).
6. After switching car gear to reverse the sound level reduction deosn't work!
>> is unsolved,
maybe also connected with issue no 4. (system doesn't detect camera, also deosn't activate any backview, so in the end no sound level change).
7. I did Reset to Factory Settings (through android interface) to correct the problem no.2 (see description above). It helped for a moment, so after some time (~15 minutes) the issue came back, so still I cannot pin any widget or shortcut to any home screen.
8. I cannot find any option to make Screen-Lock.
>> probably dedicated app would help, but I haven't tried.
9. The CAN info are not working with my car, so I cannot see any info about open doors, etc.
>> I was using CAN Type 145, as adviced by seller, but still was not working.
All of above issue I was trying to solve with seller via messages (my english is not perfect, but their ... terrible).
After upgrading the device to a new FW (provided by seller), after few days of discussion, I have decided to return the radio back. I did all according to agreement with seller and via aliexpress system and it worked fine. I got money back (211€) , all good.
The device, beside above described issues, worked really really well, fast and smoothly.
The GPS was catch fast and 4G with sim card slot extension worked really amazing (direct internet access as well as direct phone calls possible!).
The radio reception and the sound quality, also very good!
It is a pity, because the device looks like has a big potential, but the current FW is not perfect, so causing small, but many annoying problems.
Not sure about camera issue (no.: 4+5+6), if it is connected with FW or rather with CAN decoder...
I would consider to buy it again, but first I will wait for a better FW/OS/ROM, so I am looking forward for any news about it!
I hope the info will help some of you.
Greetings!
djborsi said:
3. During using a navigation app the music from radio and sounds from navi are not mixed. Radio is playing and when navi sound comes, then radio is reduced and overplayed, I couldn't find option to change it.
>> in the end nothing special, it is a matter of expectation and taste.
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This is the default Android behavior. Android plays by default one stream and audio streams have different priorities. Some have higher priority than others and only one can be played at one point. Whenever a higher priority sound comes, the current sound volume will be lowered for a while (any notification sound or Navi is considered to have higher priority).
For the other issues I personally blame the firmware. As I said before, their firmware is lacking and it is a shame. You had the 4G/LTE version as I did, I just did not connect the rearview camera.
I have this head unit for an AUDI and here are some things I found:
The radio and other UI components come from the system app called "MainUI" which gets modified depending on the company/seller who puts their own touches to it. It is signed using the AOSP android platform certificate and you can install/replace it with another MainUI and things mostly work. MainUI is also moddable if you know how to recompile the apk as the code is not secured in any way. Simply resign it with the platform certificate and install via adb/usb.
The unit boots up in two different ways depending on how long it has been left off.
* cold bootup which starts with the animated "android" splash- this bootup will allow apps installed to run if it has the BOOT_COMPLETED intent in its manifest.
* Quickboot- this is where the bootup is fast and bypasses normal android boot. In order to have an app start in this bootup mode, you need to set the system property, for example, to start the "navigation" as per settings:
Code:
setprop sys.qb.startapp_onresume "L#P com.ts.MainUI#A com.ts.main.navi.NaviMainActivity#T 2#I 5"
the components are seperated by "#", and the format is L#P <package>#A <activity>
then you can add optional T <number of times run>#I <number of seconds between each run>
In this example it will try to start the navigation activity twice and 5 seconds in between. I noticed that if you just try to run it once, sometimes the UI is not ready and the activity fails. The "L" at the beginning means to try to rerun apps that were already running before shutdown, it only works sometimes.
Sometimes the system properties will not stick and gets reset by the device. I do not know why this is the case. Therefore to make this more permanent change, it needs to be added to the /system/etc/prop.default file.
Changing any system files requires booting into recovery (via android developer options and adb reboot recovery), mounting the system partition and using the root access "su":
Code:
su @#zxcvbnmasdfghjklqwertyuiop1234567890,.
then mounting the system_root as rewritable
Code:
mount -o rw,remount /system_root
Someone else posted the above information in another thread and was also on the russian 4pda forums, but ill add it here as well.
Bluetooth tethering works well generally, although you will find sometimes it will disconnect by itself. In order to fix this, go to the "phone" app and reconnect from there.
Another thing I noticed was if you try to flash another rom, and get into a bootloop, there is no way to enter recovery (via the "RST" button or anything). The "RST" button as it turns out just turns off the device.
In order to fix a bootloop due to bad flash, have the "8259.bin" and "8259.upd" files in a usb disk and when the bootup says "detected", continually swipe the screen left and right. That will initiate a flash mode. This has saved me a few times already.
jazzor said:
Changing any system files requires booting into recovery (via android developer options and adb reboot recovery), mounting the system partition and using the root access "su":
Code:
su @#zxcvbnmasdfghjklqwertyuiop1234567890,.
then mounting the system_root as rewritable
Code:
mount -o rw,remount /system_root
Someone else posted the above information in another thread and was also on the russian 4pda forums, but ill add it here as well.
Bluetooth tethering works well generally, although you will find sometimes it will disconnect by itself. In order to fix this, go to the "phone" app and reconnect from there.
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You can make su and remount in adb shell and /system will rw. And to adding app in quickboot is possible via edit qb_list.xml in /vendor/etc
I also modified stock launcher for mercedes and made knob working across android system as dpad.
Before change something need to make ROM backup with Flash Tool. And after that possible to get usual (not su @#...) root just via patch boot.img with Magisk and flash it back.
Also possible to hide status bar for some apps with adb command
I post some other advices at russain 4pda forum
dev495 said:
You can make su and remount in adb shell and /system will rw. And to adding app in quickboot is possible via edit qb_list.xml in /vendor/etc
I also modified stock launcher for mercedes and made knob working across android system as dpad.
Before change something need to make ROM backup with Flash Tool. And after that possible to get usual (not su @#...) root just via patch boot.img with Magisk and flash it back.
Also possible to hide status bar for some apps with adb command
I post some other advices at russain 4pda forum
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How did you make the backup using flashtool? I tried and it said it does not recognise the system or something. Does the device have to be in fastboot mode or something?
jazzor said:
How did you make the backup using flashtool? I tried and it said it does not recognise the system or something. Does the device have to be in fastboot mode or something?
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You need to install MTK drivers and connect laptop to usb port on which carplay works. After that you should enable readback and press reset button in hole. You may try this scatter files. MTK is generated from my device, AC8257 is part of Junsun ROM. I called my scatter as MTK because Flash Tool doesnt know AC chipsets. My device is 4/64 gb, another probably 2/32 gb
Hi, I have this same radio. I tried to connect it to the computer as I read here and I could not do it. What I would like to do is to root it and if I can put the TWRP RECOVERY. I have not been able to extract the boot.img from the firmware.bin. On the other hand, the "back" button has been deconfigured and now the action it does when I press it, is that I turn off the screen. Do you know how to fix it? I have used the "BUTTONS REMAPPER" application but I have not achieved anything.
Best Regards
Sorry, repeat.
So I bit the bullet and bought myself this head unit:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_9JZiHu
Ad stated that unit is 4gb ts8, but unit shipped and arrived is 6gb TS10.
Plugged everything up unit works nice and smooth as expected, but one seriously annoying bug.
Phone connected to HU and when I try to make a phone call I can hear receiver speaking, but they can't hear me.
Head unit does have internal mic. And Mike does work with other apps
I've checked permissions and Bluetooth app does not even request mic permission.
Any ideas? Suggestions? Anyone else got similar issues?
Maybe custom ROMs available etc?
I've managed to enable USB debugging, got passwords for engineering mode, extra settings etc...
Pics of my headunit attached
sciux said:
So I bit the bullet and bought myself this head unit:
https://a.aliexpress.com/_9JZiHu
Ad stated that unit is 4gb ts8, but unit shipped and arrived is 6gb TS10.
Plugged everything up unit works nice and smooth as expected, but one seriously annoying bug.
Phone connected to HU and when I try to make a phone call I can hear receiver speaking, but they can't hear me.
Head unit does have internal mic. And Mike does work with other apps
I've checked permissions and Bluetooth app does not even request mic permission.
Any ideas? Suggestions? Anyone else got similar issues?
Maybe custom ROMs available etc?
I've managed to enable USB debugging, got passwords for engineering mode, extra settings etc...
Pics of my headunit attached
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Hi there, did you have any luck with this? I've just received the same head unit and found the same problem. I've had a quick troubleshoot but haven't had any success so far. Thanks
coombsee said:
Hi there, did you have any luck with this? I've just received the same head unit and found the same problem. I've had a quick troubleshoot but haven't had any success so far. Thanks
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I did actually managed to sort it out. Store suggested connecting external mic to 3.5mm plug on the harness that came with head unit. Did that, but nothing changed.
Can't remember exactly what I did, but it's something down the lines of Google Voice setting that it's setup to constantly listen for "hey Google" you have to disable that and than "hey Google" function will only work when you in the maps etc not constantly whilst head unit is on.
If you can't find that setting let me know I'll find it and explain in detail how to do that.
If you have the same issue as me I'm positive that this might be the cause
sciux said:
I did actually managed to sort it out. Store suggested connecting external mic to 3.5mm plug on the harness that came with head unit. Did that, but nothing changed.
Can't remember exactly what I did, but it's something down the lines of Google Voice setting that it's setup to constantly listen for "hey Google" you have to disable that and than "hey Google" function will only work when you in the maps etc not constantly whilst head unit is on.
If you can't find that setting let me know I'll find it and explain in detail how to do that.
If you have the same issue as me I'm positive that this might be the cause
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That was 100% it. Turned the 'Hey Google' activation off and problem solved. Thanks!
Glad I could help. I remember being frustrated fumming looking for answers for almost a week... With seller being let's say close to useless they did try...
I came across answer online somewhere where same issue was happening with a phone not headunit so thought worth a try and it worked
Anyway, good luck
Could you please give a screenshot of the setting you changed or at least where in the settings the function is.
Go to applications/car settings/ click on the left button ---more/ Google services and preferences/ click on account services/ search, assistant & voice/ voice/ voice match.
First line should say hey Google access your assistant any time you say "hey Google" when your screen is on. Turn this off.
This worked for me. I'll make a short video just in case
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Could you please give a screenshot of the setting you changed or at least where in the settings the function is.
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As promised, sorry video seems a bit blurry phone failing to focus
You have gone over and above. Thank you. Found never have thought to delve that deep into settings for the solution.
I did try to be helpful, because I know how frustrated I was being unable to make a phone call or rather switch to hands free mode on the phone every time there was a call. And it really bugged me. It was obvious that it was software not hardware issue since mic worked everywhere else.
Seller couldn't explain anything either and I ended up ripping my brand new cars dashboard 4 times trying to work it out... So I kind of understand and if it helps somebody else I'm more than pleased with taking 10minutes of my time to do so .
Good day sir
sciux said:
I've managed to enable USB debugging, got passwords for engineering mode, extra settings etc...
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Would you mind sharing all the codes that you have for the unit please.
ludditefornow said:
Would you mind sharing all the codes that you have for the unit please.
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extra settings- 123456
developer mode- 7890(**). (**) is your current time. example ..if u try it at 3.00 o'clock just key in 789003. did u get it?
A generic firmware update for TS10 deviced. (link expires in a week - probably worth somebody reuploading)
TS10.1.2_20210106.173438_THEME1.zip
1 file sent via WeTransfer, the simplest way to send your files around the world
wetransfer.com
Place the file in the root of a USB and hit the system upgrade button in the settings.
After the update, go to settings - car settings - extra setting - 123456 - config info - choose the options that were ticked prior to the update (BC6 for me)
The update file is titled: TS10.1.2_20210106.173438_THEME1.zip
Presumably from 6th Jan 2021
Headunit reloaded works very well (for seamless android auto support) on these TS10 units for those who have not tried!
rnakpatel said:
Place the file in the root of a USB and hit the system upgrade button in the settings.
After the update, go to settings - car settings - extra setting - 123456 - config info - choose the options that were ticked prior to the update (BC6 for me)
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Do you have any screen shots of the UI and the specs with this ROM?
Is it only suitablefor 6gb / 128 gb models or will the 4gb/64gb models also accept this?
rnakpatel said:
A generic firmware update for TS10 deviced. (link expires in a week - probably worth somebody reuploading)
TS10.1.2_20210106.173438_THEME1.zip
1 file sent via WeTransfer, the simplest way to send your files around the world
wetransfer.com
Place the file in the root of a USB and hit the system upgrade button in the settings.
After the update, go to settings - car settings - extra setting - 123456 - config info - choose the options that were ticked prior to the update (BC6 for me)
The update file is titled: TS10.1.2_20210106.173438_THEME1.zip
Presumably from 6th Jan 2021
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hi rnakpatel , that is my HU detail. can i use firmware that u post for update?
ludditefornow said:
Do you have any screen shots of the UI and the specs with this ROM?
Is it only suitablefor 6gb / 128 gb models or will the 4gb/64gb models also accept this?
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I can't tell you with confidence what units are compatible. I do note it has settings for screen resolution - this is on my 720p device. I also note I needed to adjust the config info setting to match what my stereo comes with after flashing. The canbus receivers are set up using a database queried online and car specific apps and logos are automatically added.
The update is excellent - everything works very well. Head unit reloaded works with wireless android auto and wired (though a little buggy wirrless)
This
Thanks for this. It is useful.
A couple of questions.
1. Can you run that config again if something is incorrect? If so what is the name of the APK? Or do you need to load the whole ROM again to get to that stage?
2. There is BC6,7,and 8. Do you know what specs they refer to?
3. 20210302_221437.jpg shows a mic gain. Could you please advise on the setting path you used to get to that setting page.
Thanks again.
ludditefornow said:
Thanks for this. It is useful.
A couple of questions.
1. Can you run that config again if something is incorrect? If so what is the name of the APK? Or do you need to load the whole ROM again to get to that stage?
2. There is BC6,7,and 8. Do you know what specs they refer to?
3. 20210302_221437.jpg shows a mic gain. Could you please advise on the setting path you used to get to that setting page.
Thanks again.
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Can you access the extra settings menu on your current firmware (password 123456)
I would copy the settings for BC6/7/8 from there.
You can update the config as often as you like. This sounds like a risky update, probably not worth attempting if you don't currently have similar software with similar settings.
Another password might be useful for somebody:
Enable USB debug: [email protected]
I have just purchased for my Mazda 3 2014 base model a Sino Smart t18 Android head unit. It took a lot of wire runs to get all my buttons on my steering wheel to work and my aux cable to work but I have everything working now. However I cannot get Android Auto to work. I'm connected via cable I go to T-Link it goes through the whole connection process then the app closes and I disconnect. Also in calls there is a literal half second to two second delay between me saying something and the other person hearing something. I believe that to be because the dialer and phone app is an ancient one. Before I upgrade via the Sino Smart firmware assuming that they even have a newer version for it I'd like to know a few things. Are there any fixes for the issues I have? Is there generic firmware I could use and would that be better? I've backed up the APKs and the settings on a flash drive and I'm going to get a firmware from Sino Smart probably today. So I'm not too concerned about reflashing it if such a firmware exists. Here is the relevant links and pictures https://m.aliexpress.com/item/3256801101474736.html?browser_id=72dbac67959e473f86942b305e5c0eff&aff_trace_key=6c41050821be49718de2504f98805203-1662686844295-00677-UneMJZVf&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=0011831fdd3c4c1d26c057b1ad56416c1c5e891039&gclid=&[email protected][email protected]!12000028949398123!sea&curPageLogUid=POsYIGiN6GMX&algo_pvid=9f563e5a-cc76-4caf-a8d7-20b80d9e9ed2
Here is a google drive with the dump from the unit
Ts18 Sinosmart dump - Google Drive
drive.google.com
The firmware that they gave me was for a TS-10 and I'm not sure that's going to be compatible with what I have. Does anybody know?
Also USB DAC, can I use that or no?
Hello. We have the same hardware as you. TS18 8581A (TopWay) 4GB+64GB
AK7604
QN8035
Android 11 (Possibly Fake).
Fake Device Test application does not work.
Android Auto Exits the App when the connection is made. But it continues to work immediately after re-entering the application.
I am not satisfied with the Bluetooth Phone call either. I hope there is a solution. I've been watching your thread. Do you have an external microphone? I think it might be a problem with the built-in microphone.
By the way, what does a USB DAC do? (Translate Google)
These units are garbage.
iskenderr said:
Hello. We have the same hardware as you. TS18 8581A (TopWay) 4GB+64GB
AK7604
QN8035
Android 11 (Possibly Fake).
Fake Device Test application does not work.
Android Auto Exits the App when the connection is made. But it continues to work immediately after re-entering the application.
I am not satisfied with the Bluetooth Phone call either. I hope there is a solution. I've been watching your thread. Do you have an external microphone? I think it might be a problem with the built-in microphone.
By the way, what does a USB DAC do? (Translate Google)
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A USB dac is a way to get digital audio out from the head unit. This way it sounds a lot better. I'm running my own external amplifier. Yeah mine's actually legit and lets me run that fake test stuff, I suspect you're running Android 10 if they're stopping you from checking. That's kind of why I want to see if there's firmware out there for like there is for the TS-10s. As for an external microphone I'm using this Sujeetec Pro Lavalier Microphone... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z3LV1FG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
marchnz said:
These units are garbage.
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That may be the case but for $400 or less there's just not much out there for my car. If I had the Bose system then I would have been fine but the non Bose there's only just now coming on to the market other decent options. However all of them are basically just variations of this unit. I know there's a ton of firmware out there for the TS-10s so I'm just wondering if there's one for the TS-18s
FriedTM said:
USB dac, dijital sesi ana üniteden çıkarmanın bir yoludur. Bu şekilde kulağa çok daha iyi geliyor. Kendi harici amplifikatörümü çalıştırıyorum. Evet, benimki aslında yasal ve bu sahte test şeylerini çalıştırmama izin veriyor, kontrol etmenizi engelliyorlarsa Android 10 çalıştırdığınızdan şüpheleniyorum. Bu yüzden TS-10'larda olduğu gibi orada bir ürün yazılımı olup olmadığını görmek istiyorum. Harici mikrofona gelince, bu Sujeetec Pro Yaka Mikrofonunu kullanıyorum... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z3LV1FG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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HU'nun arkasında harici bir amplifikatör çıkışı vardır. Sağ ön sol ve subwoofer için. Sanırım arka sol ve sağ çıkışı da var. Ama bir soket kablom yok (C3-C4 pin). (Google Çeviri)
iskenderr said:
HU'nun arkasında harici bir amplifikatör çıkışı vardır. Sağ ön sol ve subwoofer için. Sanırım arka sol ve sağ çıkışı da var. Ama bir soket kablom yok (C3-C4 pin). (Google Çeviri)
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This is true but the output levels are only 1.5 volts and the sample rate and audio quality is not amazing. A usb dac will bring better audio than the inbuilt chip as well as provide higher voltage. Also these do not have rear output so you have to use a line level converter which sucks because mine pops and crackles at above 70% volume.
All right I got some codes for this unit. Thanks to Vista2611
Factory - 123456
developer mode - 7890(**). (**) is your current time in military time. example ..if u try it at 3.00pm just key in 789015. Or if it's 3am it's 789003
FriedTM said:
All right I got some codes for this unit. Thanks to Vista2611
Factory - 123456
developer mode - 7890(**). (**) is your current time in military time. example ..if u try it at 3.00pm just key in 789015. Or if it's 3am it's 789003
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Hello Fried, Hi All
I have TS18 too not exactly the same I think... For tl link can you give the version of tl link?
For the call problem, I don’t have good new... I have exactly the same issue...
For detail (#my story) I bought this unit 6 month ago... everything works correctly except call issue... I exchange with the vendor since the beginning to work around… He made me lot of this update reset etc…. Nothing works… one time after reset I lose some functions (TLink, button on the screen of the unit… he give me new version of tlink (1.8.9)) … brief after 6 months nothings works to solve the call issue. So the vendor send me a new mainboard. New version of Tlink (nice!!) but the call issue is exactly the same….
Now I bored, I will use it like that I think. In addition, I think this problem is due to the design of the board…
Ha, for Tlink at the beginning it was in version 1.6.9. It work pretty good to connect etc. after the big reset he give me version 1.8.9., in this version I have to execute two time the connection to the screen android auto…
Now with the new version it seem work correctly, I have to do some test. I have installed the board just this weekend… idem for the number of version
PS IF YOU FIND A WAY TO SOLVE call issue, PLEASE share it…
I bought Simcard + microphone harness from Aliexpress. They stated that my voice sounded good when calling directly from HU with a sim card. They also stated that their own voice echoed. I think in this case there may be a problem with the Bluetooth interface. I ordered an external microphone. I'm going to try how the sound will be with the external microphone. I installed a macrodroid drawer on the HU device for speed dialing, and I was satisfied as a quick search and a mapped screen split. I'll be glad when the volume down problem is solved.
By the way, does anyone know the steps to add eSim?
https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/1005003193847464.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.ba473d126wka2q&gatewayAdapt=glo2tur
I haven't solved the problem but I have opened it up and discovered that it may be TS10 firmware compatible. I've also noticed that these boards are standardized so you may be able to just buy a standalone board like this one that is compatible with TS-10 which is a much more mature system
US $36.09 | TOPWAY TS7 T3L TS18 T5 TS10 T507 Motherboard PCB PCBA Main Board Built in Android
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrQ34oy
Edit: I confirmed that they are compatible. I'm just going to the TS-10. Wash my hands of this problem.
https://en.proauto.co.il/zeta-ts18
Found this probably going to give it a try
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https://en.proauto.co.il/zeta-ts18
Found this probably going to give it a try
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I will try if I have enough time…
However, to be clear. I am pretty sure the problem is not on the Bluetooth. I have tried to runs an app like WhatsApp directly on the unit. The unit was connected by wifi on the house. And I observed exactly the same delay… In addition, to complete the vendor send me an application to update some parameter in the Bluetooth configuration (gocsdk) it doesn’t change anything n delay…
I installed this link from the manufacturer but I would not recommend. It is set to the wrong display resolution (1280 by 480) and I cant change it because it I cant press half the settings screen as it is out of view. Goin to try the other software next. Also this one from the manufacture seems to state it is android 12 and I am 90% sure it is not. very sketchy.
Edit: Do not do any of these installations without a backup. Otherwise you may mess up your machine. You need to back up your APKs and all your settings they're going to be in the factory settings I believe I'm going to make an instructional once I confirmed this worked
So you succed to install? And delay on call is the fixed?
For information during the six months of exchange with vendor, he maid me several update. on time he send a new system update like this one... And result for delay in call was the same...
I am not sure to understand if you avec succed to install? If you wan't I can share the latest version that he send me before send me back a new main board...
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So you succed to install? And delay on call is the fixed?
For information during the six months of exchange with vendor, he maid me several update. on time he send a new system update like this one... And result for delay in call was the same...
I am not sure to understand if you avec succed to install? If you wan't I can share the latest version that he send me before send me back a new main board...
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I did eventually get the install to work and it helped but its caused a bunch of other problems with audio quality and strangely enough google maps wont open. The delay went from 1-2 seconds to about .5 of a second call delay :/ these ts-18s are just ts-10s with a bunch of cost savings. Just trash, I am jumping ship and you should too. Just buy a ts-10 from the link I gave you and it will be a drop in replacement for the ts-18 you have. Also yeah post the update maybe someone else will find use for it The big issue with the install and what took me so long was that the dpi was set to 240 when it needed to be set to 140. This made the whole experience a pain because half of the options in the settings menu where unreachable. I had to enable engineering mode and go to the built in abd app (you can connect your laptop and do this remotely as well) and type in "adb shell wm density 140". here is a Link to get you started.
If ur Microphone dont work well in TS18 u should:
Turn Off Listening in Voice Assistent Google.
This work for me and now i can Call with no problem
Hi
I have ts18 headunit and I did factory reset and I lost all my apps someone have backup or someting for I can have back my apps. And now I can't use tlink so I don't have android auto anymore. If I download tlink apk and install it I can't activate. I find other way to use android auto name is android headunit reloader it's working but is complicate to start like always need to go to my phone settings and start headunit server after this working fine but I don't want do this always when I want use android auto. Someone know something better apk for android auto?
Fishme92 said:
Hi
I have ts18 headunit and I did factory reset and I lost all my apps someone have backup or someting for I can have back my apps. And now I can't use tlink so I don't have android auto anymore. If I download tlink apk and install it I can't activate. I find other way to use android auto name is android headunit reloader it's working but is complicate to start like always need to go to my phone settings and start headunit server after this working fine but I don't want do this always when I want use android auto. Someone know something better apk for android auto?
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Hi! I have exactly the same problem, how did you fix it? Is there any way to install the original app to connect your phone?
Is anyone able to help me identify what unit this is? Its meant to be a higher end unit but finding it really sluggish and also looking at some of the reports its using > 6GB of ram OOB out of 8GB (Not sure how the 2GB unit would have worked) .
Sometimes when turning it back on from standby when playing music etc its really jumpy as its its doing something in the background. Anyone got any recommendations on apps to show what using up all the CPU?
It appears to be a UIS8581 based unit, I have run the HWGetinfo tool on it but its reporting its not a FYT unit.
Post Android system information, including MCU version
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
Rob_Quads said:
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
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This is a completely known unit in here. Try search yourself in this forum for ZLA_ you won´t find anything.
Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
I'm also with the same thing.
Rob_Quads said:
Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
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ZLA was a typo... sorry.
My posting was not meant to be harsh, but this unit is really completely unknown on XDA.
Yeah that looks like the BMW equivalent to mine with a slightly different CPU
Bhold89 said:
I'm also with the same thing.
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Talking with the seller, mine was sold by COIKA.
It seems that it follows some patterns that are very similar to other HU's, you just need to make the following to update for example, the boot logo:
Folder structure:
- HUTUpdate
- OS
- bootanimation.zip
- logo.png
- upgrade.en (empty file)
- upgrade.system (empty file)
So, if you find other examples of HU types that are Android-based, this may work.
To upgrade the MCU is
- HUTUpdate
- mcu
- upgrade.mcu
- BMW_8581.bin
I was trying to make backups with other tools, but no success yet.
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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Which HU do you have?
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
Bhold89 said:
Which HU do you have?
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MTK8581a 8/128 for BMW
Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
Mikdiba86 said:
Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
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I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
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I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
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i use only zlink...because i like the home of carplay..i don't use the sim card ...yes i bought from coika by aliexpress. for me you need disable original bluetooth of car..and use only headunit..one question..but the our unit is mtcd?
I don't know who is the main manufacturer. Coika says they are the own manufacturers. But don't belieb them. Struggling with the service people since days... Apps are closing after you switch to car system... bluetooth is only working with mobile phone...no obd device etc... SIM card is not working...but they keep me waiting
Similar unit here (Mercedes version):
Version: ZLH_BZ_OS_1.80
MCU: ZLH_BZL221030A_8581_13
Android version 12 (fake - it's 10 - see below)
More info in attached photos.
The 8888 code gets you into factory settings, as in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-not-fyt-based-read-first-post-first.4525675/
I installed the "Fake Device Test" app and it closes after 1 or 2 seconds (possible sabotage by the device?) but I managed to get the OS info by quickly flicking down the screen while videoing it, then playing back in slow motion. This confirmed the Android API level as 29 (ie Android 10). It also seems to confirm the claimed 8GB RAM and 1920x720 screen are correct.
I want to have a poke around with ADB and busybox, but so far haven't been able connect. The unit claims to be rooted.
Wireless Android Auto works, but one minor annoyance is that my phone seems to give up on Android Auto before the unit is ready to connect. A quick toggle of bluetooth and reconnect to the unit once it's ready is necessary. Also, you need to use a cable for AA when the ZLink app on the device is set to HD - wireless AA on HD delivers a pillarboxed display.
And despite all the images on AliExpress showing 5 icons per page in the launcher, I've only got 3 per page. Is this launcher configurable?
I don't know why exactly, but I have a nagging suspicion that the screen might be a lower resolution than reported, I need to see what the kernel/sysfs says. Do these units have a dmesg somewhere? Or could there be a problem caused by the screen being reported as only 7 inches, as I saw in the output of one of the System Info apps I tried? (Screen is actually 10.25 inches.
One thing I really want to do is get a full backup in case of future problems. Is using TWRP possible on these devices? There is a 1.5 GB "update.zip" on the internal storage, I need get a copy and examine it.
Investigations continue, I'll report back. In the meantime, does anyone have any thoughts on the above?
Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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I have gooting a new 9" android unit for AUDI. With same seller and issue.
Thinking of making a thread
simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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I have AUDI ill compare because folder structurer is similar