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[GUIDE] Enable navigation on cars with Sync Gen 2 and MyFord Touch

I thought it would be nice to distill all of the information provided in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3368080 into an easy to follow guide. This method was originally described here: https://www.drive2.ru/l/10018006/
Before you proceed, please understand the following:
I am very new to modifications like this and I'm not very knowledgeable. If you mess something up, I probably won't be able to help you.
The following guide is the steps that I took to get this working on my 2012 Ford Focus. I'm not aware of any car model-specific issues, but that doesn't mean that there aren't any.
This guide is for North American cars. If you live in a different region this will still probably work, but you will need to use the MyFord Touch system software files that correspond to your region.
What you will need:
Forscan (I used version 2.3.4 beta) from here: http://forscan.org/
An extended license for Forscan. Follow the instructions to get that here: http://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=836
An ELM327 OBD2 adapter that is compatible with Forscan. I used this one: http://www.totalcardiagnostics.com/shop/elm327-obd2-scantool
This png file: https://yadi.sk/d/i-JGQR8ZwLrLM
A USB flash drive
MyFord Touch system software version 3.8 (also known as SYNCGen2_3.08.15128.EA.10_PRODUCT). This is the latest version as of this writing. If you aren't on it, you can get the North American update from here: http://ivsu.binaries.ford.com/swparts/Gen2v38build15128updatepackageNARev2.zip. Install it if you don't already have it.
An SD card that contains the navigation maps. The latest version for North America is A8. The latest version for Europe is F6. You can use older versions if you like. Find them on eBay or somewhere similar.
These nav-related files: https://mega.nz/#!DVwQXYQD!BnXXpR9XuhE7ZQPIjM7ODM0SYepJCSawR3q1Ps2XT_s.
Got everything? Let's get started:
Plug (or pair, if you're using a Bluetooth adapter) your OBD2 interface into the OBD2 port on your car.
Put your key in the car and turn it to the On position (the first click after off. Do not put it in accessory mode, which is the second click).
Start up Forscan. You should be on the Vehicle and Interface Information screen (the icon looks like a car with an "i" in a yellow circle on top of it).
Click on the icon that looks like two power cables plugged in to each other to connect to your car. You'll see some information start to populate the log. Wait until it is completely finished.
Forscan might show you a menu with different vehicle options to pick. Pick yours from the list. In my case, it asked if my Focus was 2012 or 2013.
If at any time Forscan asks if you want to save something so you can back it up later, say yes.
Click on the icon that looks like a microchip and under the Configuration and Programming tab, select APIM and press the play icon.
You'll see a lot of fields that are labeled with numbers that start with 7D0. Click the disk icon at the bottom of the screen to save a copy of these original values.
Find 7D0-01-02 and change the first two numbers in the first field from 00 to 04. Click Write to save the change.
You'll see a warning message about the checksum being bad. Click yes to ignore it and continue with the change.
Go back to the Vehicle and Interface Information screen (the icon looks like a car with an "i" in a yellow circle on top of it) and click the unplugged power cables icon to disconnect your computer from the car. You can remove the OBD2 interface now if you like.
Put the png file that you downloaded earlier on to a USB flash drive and plug it into the USB port in your car.
In MyFord Touch, go to settings -> display, and find the setting for changing the wallpaper (I forget exactly what it's called).
Click on Add, and select your USB drive. Highlight the png file, and in the preview box, you should see a blue button that says "enable nav" or something like that. Press it, and you should see "nav enabled" appear above it.
Extract the nav-related files to your USB flash drive and plug it in to your car. It will install some things (be patient, let it finish) and when it's done, you should see an "i" icon at the bottom of your home screen.
Insert your navigation SD card into your car's SD card slot, and you should be good to go.
Hopefully you now have access to a navigation system that is every bit as sub-par but adequate as the rest of the MyFord Touch system. Congrats!
UPDATE: Someone just told me that their car wouldn't read their map card until they installed the package that I labeled optional, so it might be worth a shot if you didn't use it and you're having issues. Again, that package is specific to North America, so if you need a different region, you'll have to find it yourself unless some helpful reader wants to provide a link, and I'll post it here.

I followed these steps pretty much exactly and everything works perfect. I did a master reset and I did not install the optional update pack and I had no issues with my map card.
also worth noting to fix IPC so instead of compass it says Navigation:
720-01-01 E5C0-29BE-24D9 needs to be E5C2-29BE-24DB
update: my middle/last part of that string did not match exactly, however changing the 2 bits still fixed the cluster to say Navigation.

After a few attempts I finally have Nav on our 2013 Edge. I'm grateful for the assistance I received from a fellow member. We spoke last night and I had missed 1 step in the activation process and that was all it took. I used the png method without doing a Master reset.
Again many thanks to this site and it's members for the help.

Hi Everyone.
I have a 2013 C-Max Energi, it came with MyFordTouch but no navigation option. Navigation was only available on the Sony Radio Premium Option which I do not have. It's totally different hardware. I am in the United States if it makes any difference....
So am I reading this correctly... From what I understand, I can get Navigation working without replacing any hardware? Is that correct?

kgorczyn said:
Hi Everyone.
I have a 2013 C-Max Energi, it came with MyFordTouch but no navigation option. Navigation was only available on the Sony Radio Premium Option which I do not have. It's totally different hardware. I am in the United States if it makes any difference....
So am I reading this correctly... From what I understand, I can get Navigation working without replacing any hardware? Is that correct?
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That's correct. I have MyFord Touch (not SONY) on my 2013 Escape and I was able to enable the Navigation without any hardware. Before enabling the navigation, the top right quadrant of my 8" screen was showing just "information" and the ball compass. Just follow the steps in first post in this thread to enable navigation.

e1ioan said:
That's correct. I have MyFord Touch (not SONY) on my 2013 Escape and I was able to enable the Navigation without any hardware. Before enabling the navigation, the top right quadrant of my 8" screen was showing just "information" and the ball compass. Just follow the steps in first post in this thread to enable navigation.
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Wow that's incredible - I'll be sure to read through this stuff and take a shot.
One Question, besides e-bay or the dealer ($$$), can anyone give me a hint or nudge me in the right direction and where I can 'make' the map SD Card?

Thank you! Followed your guide and worked on my 2016 Fusion SE. I used a bluetooth ELM327. Can also confirm my nav card (a6) was not detected until installing the optional files.

kgorczyn said:
Wow that's incredible - I'll be sure to read through this stuff and take a shot.
One Question, besides e-bay or the dealer ($$$), can anyone give me a hint or nudge me in the right direction and where I can 'make' the map SD Card?
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I cant recall where i seen it, but there is a Russian site with info on creating your own map sd card.
I was going to attempt it, but i aquired an A6 card on ebay for $38.00 W/free shipping as of Nov. 27, 2016, so for that price, a good quality blank high speed sd card cost about the same.

briankmizell said:
I cant recall where i seen it, but there is a Russian site with info on creating your own map sd card.
I was going to attempt it, but i aquired an A6 card on ebay for $38.00 W/free shipping as of Nov. 27, 2016, so for that price, a good quality blank high speed sd card cost about the same.
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If one were to read the OP carefully, one might just find that site.
No more hints from me though. Even that is treading on thin ice on XDA, and I'm really not trying to get banned.

Anyone else have issues with traffic and travel links Icon disappearing?
It was there for me prior to updating to AF.
But now its not there.

Well... I guess I am off to see the Ford services dept in the morning.
I have tried to do a downgrade to v3.71 but not luck, it keeps saying bad installation files. I was doing this thinking the v3.08_AF is what made some icons on the screen disappear.
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with SiriusXM the other day trying to get the issue resolved about Sirius Traffic & Travel links icon not showing up.
They did an override and gave me a 3 month trial to traffic and travel links, just to see if my radio does support it. I know it does because I went through it all the night I got Nav to working. then I updated to v3.08_AF I got tired and went to bed, I got up the next morning to play around with it, but the icons just aren't there on my car ever since I upgraded from 3.08_AD to 3.08_AF.
All I can figure is that possibly the European software got installed, and I assume that SiriusXM is not available in Europe.
My only other thought is that some bits need to be changed in the ACM, but I must have missed it in the other various threads as to what bits need to be changed in the ACM.
If anyone knows what bits those are and if it will correct my problem, (dont really think it will since the icons were there before the AF update) I would appreciate anyone sharing that with me.

briankmizell said:
Well... I guess I am off to see the Ford services dept in the morning.
I have tried to do a downgrade to v3.71 but not luck, it keeps saying bad installation files. I was doing this thinking the v3.08_AF is what made some icons on the screen disappear.
I spent 90 minutes on the phone with SiriusXM the other day trying to get the issue resolved about Sirius Traffic & Travel links icon not showing up.
They did an override and gave me a 3 month trial to traffic and travel links, just to see if my radio does support it. I know it does because I went through it all the night I got Nav to working. then I updated to v3.08_AF I got tired and went to bed, I got up the next morning to play around with it, but the icons just aren't there on my car ever since I upgraded from 3.08_AD to 3.08_AF.
All I can figure is that possibly the European software got installed, and I assume that SiriusXM is not available in Europe.
My only other thought is that some bits need to be changed in the ACM, but I must have missed it in the other various threads as to what bits need to be changed in the ACM.
If anyone knows what bits those are and if it will correct my problem, (dont really think it will since the icons were there before the AF update) I would appreciate anyone sharing that with me.
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In the ACM, find 727-04-01 change 0001 0255 53DE to 0001 0155 53DD
Don't worry about recalculating the checksum if you are using forscan.
FWIW, although I have never had the issue with icons disappearing, after making the changes in the ACM, I have noticed zero difference.

spent 3 hours at the dealer and they couldn't figure it out, luckily while I was there a guy for the explorer forums messaged me. and told me that it was because I have Nav in motion enabled.
Sure enough, I disabled those bits and the SiriusXm Traffic and travel Links icons came back on.
Ill add a pic shortly to show what bits I changed.

Nav In Motion is a Region Change (telling the car it's from a region without restrictions on entering data while driving). When you enable Nav In Motion, you lose Sirius stuff. This is documented in the real Nav Activation threads.
Also, you mucked with your AsBuilt, never tried setting it back to stock when you had a problem, blamed/nagged Sirius until they gave you a free subscription, and then when that didn't work you went to the dealership to have them investigate your hacked system?
I'm surprised they didn't reset your AsBuilt data. I also hope they charged you 3 hours of labor.
The ACM bit does nothing as far as we know. No reason to change it. Nobody has reported any benefit or even any change from doing so.

Sorry for my poor quality English. I only speak French. I would like to find a link for the F4 or higher version for Canada. '' uT '' the please. rabusseau hotmail com Thanks from Quebec city!!

briankmizell said:
spent 3 hours at the dealer and they couldn't figure it out, luckily while I was there a guy for the explorer forums messaged me. and told me that it was because I have Nav in motion enabled.
Sure enough, I disabled those bits and the SiriusXm Traffic and travel Links icons came back on.
Ill add a pic shortly to show what bits I changed.
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And to think all you had to do was search/peruse the other XDA (main Ford SYNC) thread and you would see a number of posts explaining that changing the "5553" code to "5753" (enabling "navigation in motion") has the consequence of removing all Sirius navigation goodies.

rabusseau said:
Sorry for my poor quality English. I only speak French. I would like to find a link for the F4 or higher version for Canada. '' uT '' the please. rabusseau hotmail com Thanks from Quebec city!!
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F4 is for Europe. Canada is included in the A cards (A7, for example).

TheSt33v said:
F4 is for Europe. Canada is included in the A cards (A7, for example).
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Thank you for your clarification!!! For you will tell me where I can find this map.

Navigation "Upgrade" with SyncMyRide account?
Thanks for this guide !
Just ordered a replacement ELM327 (the one I had turned out to be a cheap Chinese knockoff that didn't support forscan)....arrives tomorrow, will attempt the upgrade this weekend.
OP - if this works out, I will be forever in your debt....
Question for all -- just got this vehicle....registered it on the Ford site, but have not registered it with SyncMyRide..... concerned about connecting the system to Ford through my phone if I go through with this upgrade..... anyone have issues with doing this in the past? Should I be concerned about Ford's ability to see my software tweaks?
Thanks!

Hi
I have a problem. I do the steps on my mondeo 2015 Europe but doesnt work. If I insert card says bad SD card. Insert valid SD card..
Do anybody have an idea what ia wrong?
Is maybe bad SD card, or something else?
Regards

Pioneer SPH-8TAB-BT

Hi all, the Pioneer SPH-8TAB-BT is brand new and decided to open a topic about it.
First issue I have that there is no call-out button in the software, while if I am dialing a number on my phone, there is a screen that shows who I am calling.
Second, is there any other FM app that could work. The stock one is too ugly.

I found out voice dialing works if you update PSS in the Google Play Store, but there is no Bluetooth dialer app yet

hjdevries said:
I found out voice dialing works if you update PSS in the Google Play Store, but there is no Bluetooth dialer app yet
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Would be better to ask in a Pioneer forum.
The unit you got is too seldom at XDA. Seems that this is a real tablet just with a connector to the head unit.
No one knows what´s in there.

hjdevries said:
Hi all, the Pioneer SPH-8TAB-BT is brand new and decided to open a topic about it.
First issue I have that there is no call-out button in the software, while if I am dialing a number on my phone, there is a screen that shows who I am calling.
Second, is there any other FM app that could work. The stock one is too ugly.
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Look at it, maybe there will be explanations. https://youtu.be/i6-ybPcwWMg

rigattoni said:
Would be better to ask in a Pioneer forum.
The unit you got is too seldom at XDA. Seems that this is a real tablet just with a connector to the head unit.
No one knows what´s in there.
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Yes, it just got out on the market!

sun.valeo said:
Look at it, maybe there will be explanations. https://youtu.be/i6-ybPcwWMg
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Thanks, had a look. I played around for hours so nothing new.
But I had contact with Pioneer:
A) No DAB+ support
B) Bluetooth dialing and use Phone COntacts list will come in a couple of months

hjdevries said:
B) Bluetooth dialing and use Phone COntacts list will come in a couple of months
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Seriously??? You are kidding us, are you?
A car device without phone call possibility???
I would send this bull**** back wherever it comes from.... sorry, but this is not acceptable.
Just mounting a tablet on some mysterious radio without necessary functionality is not ready for sale.
OMG...

I agree, but other than that the device is great.
Anybody here who already has the device?

Update
I have the same model Pioneer has brougt an update on their site go to pioneer and go to software and type you're model nr to download the file unpack it to a usb drive so now you have the Cal function you have to update the pioneer sync app on the tablet and need a usb stick wit the download file plugged in to the system

Kevinjumpy said:
I have the same model Pioneer has brougt an update on their site go to pioneer and go to software and type you're model nr to download the file unpack it to a usb drive so now you have the Cal function you have to update the pioneer sync app on the tablet and need a usb stick wit the download file plugged in to the system
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Thanks, how is your overall experience so far?

Android Headunit 4gb/64gb octacore USB port no data

Hi this is my first post here after it being recommended from another forum
I’ve recently purchased a android unit for a 2012 Range Rover evoque and the USB port is not working. It’s the only one and there is power, it’s able to charge devices but I cannot use a memory stick or my CarPlay adapter
I’ve attached some photos of the system information from factory settings and a photo of usb device test
If anybody has any ideas on how I can fix this is would be hugely appreciated!
If you need anymore information about the unit just ask

Anybody have any ideas at all?

wizzi08 said:
Anybody have any ideas at all?
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Seems to be a hardware issue. You should get in contact with the seller to get this fixed.

I’ve tried contacting the seller and unfortunately they are not interested/don’t want to help

Then open a dispute and send the unit back.

rigattoni said:
Then open a dispute and send the unit back.
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The last option is to connect a small USB hub but I would be sending it back because who knows down the track what other issues may arise.
I put a small hub in the middle of my center console so that all the USB's can be inserted at anytime.

Sending it back/disputes/refunds etc are not a option. I’m stuck with the unit and I’d really like to find a way to fix it

wizzi08 said:
Sending it back/disputes/refunds etc are not a option. I’m stuck with the unit and I’d really like to find a way to fix it
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So how to find a way to fix it if the data connection is broken in a forum?
This is no software issue. It´s a real hardware issue.
Sending this crap back is the only option, if you don´t want pay for a repair at a local specialist.
@sandpita
Sorry, but a USB hub does not make any sense if the USB does not work at all, just spending 5V, but no data. Didn´t you read his posting good enough?

I know from past experience with Linux/android boxes/libreelec/coreelec that 9 times out of ten a USB port that has 5v but no data is normally a software, firmware or kernel issue. I was told this and another forum would be the best place to get advice for these types of devices. Of course if sending it back was a option I wouldn’t even be here

rigattoni said:
So how to find a way to fix it if the data connection is broken in a forum?
This is no software issue. It´s a real hardware issue.
Sending this crap back is the only option, if you don´t want pay for a repair at a local specialist.
@sandpita
Sorry, but a USB hub does not make any sense if the USB does not work at all, just spending 5V, but no data. Didn´t you read his posting good enough?
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My apologies, I didn't read it correctly and relax it was a simple error on my side.

Hey , i think i have a very similar version of this unit .
Mine is a new version for a 2012 RRS
I also had this issue ! , i resolved it by looking at the cable that goes into rear of the unit and one of the pins came unclipped. it happened after removing it so many times. Pushing it in fixed the issue.
Also, If this dont fix it. Enable developer mode . Looks for USB settings in there, theres an option in there that can change it from USB charging mode to data
Issues so far with mine
OEM interface didnt work - Update from seller
Overheating - Update from seller
Mic not working - Added a USB microphone
GPS signal weak - New GPS antenna
I am onto the last problem which is stopping me putting it in the car.
When ever i use Bluetooth Phone, I get a relay clicking sound from inside the unit . I then cant hear anything from the person on the other side. When i end the call it then clicks again and the stereo starts playing.
I also get the same clicking sound from Google Voice
Could you show me a pic of your phone app on your unit ? also.. Do you get what i mentioned above ?

Hi thanks for the reply ! I have very similar issues to yours!
- original car menus show a black screen with the digital version of the physical buttons it replaced Down the sides
-Reverse camera is also a black screen
-Usb not working as mentioned- I’ll try your cable fix though I’ve already enabled developer settings
-I haven’t had any overheating issues but I haven’t been on any journeys longer than a hour or so yet
Microphone is working ok and the Bluetooth audio and phone all work ok
I will add some photos tomorrow when I’m back with the car
My seller is useless and won’t help at all they simply ignore me, what update did they send you? My vehicle is a 2012 evoque dynamic lux

Ts18 (sinosmart head unit) firmware and Android Auto help.

I have just purchased for my Mazda 3 2014 base model a Sino Smart t18 Android head unit. It took a lot of wire runs to get all my buttons on my steering wheel to work and my aux cable to work but I have everything working now. However I cannot get Android Auto to work. I'm connected via cable I go to T-Link it goes through the whole connection process then the app closes and I disconnect. Also in calls there is a literal half second to two second delay between me saying something and the other person hearing something. I believe that to be because the dialer and phone app is an ancient one. Before I upgrade via the Sino Smart firmware assuming that they even have a newer version for it I'd like to know a few things. Are there any fixes for the issues I have? Is there generic firmware I could use and would that be better? I've backed up the APKs and the settings on a flash drive and I'm going to get a firmware from Sino Smart probably today. So I'm not too concerned about reflashing it if such a firmware exists. Here is the relevant links and pictures https://m.aliexpress.com/item/3256801101474736.html?browser_id=72dbac67959e473f86942b305e5c0eff&aff_trace_key=6c41050821be49718de2504f98805203-1662686844295-00677-UneMJZVf&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=0011831fdd3c4c1d26c057b1ad56416c1c5e891039&gclid=&[email protected][email protected]!12000028949398123!sea&curPageLogUid=POsYIGiN6GMX&algo_pvid=9f563e5a-cc76-4caf-a8d7-20b80d9e9ed2
Here is a google drive with the dump from the unit
Ts18 Sinosmart dump - Google Drive
drive.google.com
The firmware that they gave me was for a TS-10 and I'm not sure that's going to be compatible with what I have. Does anybody know?

Also USB DAC, can I use that or no?

Hello. We have the same hardware as you. TS18 8581A (TopWay) 4GB+64GB
AK7604
QN8035
Android 11 (Possibly Fake).
Fake Device Test application does not work.
Android Auto Exits the App when the connection is made. But it continues to work immediately after re-entering the application.
I am not satisfied with the Bluetooth Phone call either. I hope there is a solution. I've been watching your thread. Do you have an external microphone? I think it might be a problem with the built-in microphone.
By the way, what does a USB DAC do? (Translate Google)

These units are garbage.

iskenderr said:
Hello. We have the same hardware as you. TS18 8581A (TopWay) 4GB+64GB
AK7604
QN8035
Android 11 (Possibly Fake).
Fake Device Test application does not work.
Android Auto Exits the App when the connection is made. But it continues to work immediately after re-entering the application.
I am not satisfied with the Bluetooth Phone call either. I hope there is a solution. I've been watching your thread. Do you have an external microphone? I think it might be a problem with the built-in microphone.
By the way, what does a USB DAC do? (Translate Google)
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A USB dac is a way to get digital audio out from the head unit. This way it sounds a lot better. I'm running my own external amplifier. Yeah mine's actually legit and lets me run that fake test stuff, I suspect you're running Android 10 if they're stopping you from checking. That's kind of why I want to see if there's firmware out there for like there is for the TS-10s. As for an external microphone I'm using this Sujeetec Pro Lavalier Microphone... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z3LV1FG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

marchnz said:
These units are garbage.
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That may be the case but for $400 or less there's just not much out there for my car. If I had the Bose system then I would have been fine but the non Bose there's only just now coming on to the market other decent options. However all of them are basically just variations of this unit. I know there's a ton of firmware out there for the TS-10s so I'm just wondering if there's one for the TS-18s

FriedTM said:
USB dac, dijital sesi ana üniteden çıkarmanın bir yoludur. Bu şekilde kulağa çok daha iyi geliyor. Kendi harici amplifikatörümü çalıştırıyorum. Evet, benimki aslında yasal ve bu sahte test şeylerini çalıştırmama izin veriyor, kontrol etmenizi engelliyorlarsa Android 10 çalıştırdığınızdan şüpheleniyorum. Bu yüzden TS-10'larda olduğu gibi orada bir ürün yazılımı olup olmadığını görmek istiyorum. Harici mikrofona gelince, bu Sujeetec Pro Yaka Mikrofonunu kullanıyorum... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z3LV1FG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
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HU'nun arkasında harici bir amplifikatör çıkışı vardır. Sağ ön sol ve subwoofer için. Sanırım arka sol ve sağ çıkışı da var. Ama bir soket kablom yok (C3-C4 pin). (Google Çeviri)

iskenderr said:
HU'nun arkasında harici bir amplifikatör çıkışı vardır. Sağ ön sol ve subwoofer için. Sanırım arka sol ve sağ çıkışı da var. Ama bir soket kablom yok (C3-C4 pin). (Google Çeviri)
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This is true but the output levels are only 1.5 volts and the sample rate and audio quality is not amazing. A usb dac will bring better audio than the inbuilt chip as well as provide higher voltage. Also these do not have rear output so you have to use a line level converter which sucks because mine pops and crackles at above 70% volume.

All right I got some codes for this unit. Thanks to Vista2611
Factory - 123456
developer mode - 7890(**). (**) is your current time in military time. example ..if u try it at 3.00pm just key in 789015. Or if it's 3am it's 789003

FriedTM said:
All right I got some codes for this unit. Thanks to Vista2611
Factory - 123456
developer mode - 7890(**). (**) is your current time in military time. example ..if u try it at 3.00pm just key in 789015. Or if it's 3am it's 789003
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Hello Fried, Hi All
I have TS18 too not exactly the same I think... For tl link can you give the version of tl link?
For the call problem, I don’t have good new... I have exactly the same issue...
For detail (#my story) I bought this unit 6 month ago... everything works correctly except call issue... I exchange with the vendor since the beginning to work around… He made me lot of this update reset etc…. Nothing works… one time after reset I lose some functions (TLink, button on the screen of the unit… he give me new version of tlink (1.8.9)) … brief after 6 months nothings works to solve the call issue. So the vendor send me a new mainboard. New version of Tlink (nice!!) but the call issue is exactly the same….
Now I bored, I will use it like that I think. In addition, I think this problem is due to the design of the board…
Ha, for Tlink at the beginning it was in version 1.6.9. It work pretty good to connect etc. after the big reset he give me version 1.8.9., in this version I have to execute two time the connection to the screen android auto…
Now with the new version it seem work correctly, I have to do some test. I have installed the board just this weekend… idem for the number of version
PS IF YOU FIND A WAY TO SOLVE call issue, PLEASE share it…

I bought Simcard + microphone harness from Aliexpress. They stated that my voice sounded good when calling directly from HU with a sim card. They also stated that their own voice echoed. I think in this case there may be a problem with the Bluetooth interface. I ordered an external microphone. I'm going to try how the sound will be with the external microphone. I installed a macrodroid drawer on the HU device for speed dialing, and I was satisfied as a quick search and a mapped screen split. I'll be glad when the volume down problem is solved.
By the way, does anyone know the steps to add eSim?
https://tr.aliexpress.com/item/1005003193847464.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.ba473d126wka2q&gatewayAdapt=glo2tur

I haven't solved the problem but I have opened it up and discovered that it may be TS10 firmware compatible. I've also noticed that these boards are standardized so you may be able to just buy a standalone board like this one that is compatible with TS-10 which is a much more mature system
US $36.09 | TOPWAY TS7 T3L TS18 T5 TS10 T507 Motherboard PCB PCBA Main Board Built in Android
https://a.aliexpress.com/_mrQ34oy
Edit: I confirmed that they are compatible. I'm just going to the TS-10. Wash my hands of this problem.

https://en.proauto.co.il/zeta-ts18
Found this probably going to give it a try

FriedTM said:
https://en.proauto.co.il/zeta-ts18
Found this probably going to give it a try
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I will try if I have enough time…
However, to be clear. I am pretty sure the problem is not on the Bluetooth. I have tried to runs an app like WhatsApp directly on the unit. The unit was connected by wifi on the house. And I observed exactly the same delay… In addition, to complete the vendor send me an application to update some parameter in the Bluetooth configuration (gocsdk) it doesn’t change anything n delay…

I installed this link from the manufacturer but I would not recommend. It is set to the wrong display resolution (1280 by 480) and I cant change it because it I cant press half the settings screen as it is out of view. Goin to try the other software next. Also this one from the manufacture seems to state it is android 12 and I am 90% sure it is not. very sketchy.
Edit: Do not do any of these installations without a backup. Otherwise you may mess up your machine. You need to back up your APKs and all your settings they're going to be in the factory settings I believe I'm going to make an instructional once I confirmed this worked

So you succed to install? And delay on call is the fixed?
For information during the six months of exchange with vendor, he maid me several update. on time he send a new system update like this one... And result for delay in call was the same...
I am not sure to understand if you avec succed to install? If you wan't I can share the latest version that he send me before send me back a new main board...

e-xenon said:
So you succed to install? And delay on call is the fixed?
For information during the six months of exchange with vendor, he maid me several update. on time he send a new system update like this one... And result for delay in call was the same...
I am not sure to understand if you avec succed to install? If you wan't I can share the latest version that he send me before send me back a new main board...
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I did eventually get the install to work and it helped but its caused a bunch of other problems with audio quality and strangely enough google maps wont open. The delay went from 1-2 seconds to about .5 of a second call delay :/ these ts-18s are just ts-10s with a bunch of cost savings. Just trash, I am jumping ship and you should too. Just buy a ts-10 from the link I gave you and it will be a drop in replacement for the ts-18 you have. Also yeah post the update maybe someone else will find use for it The big issue with the install and what took me so long was that the dpi was set to 240 when it needed to be set to 140. This made the whole experience a pain because half of the options in the settings menu where unreachable. I had to enable engineering mode and go to the built in abd app (you can connect your laptop and do this remotely as well) and type in "adb shell wm density 140". here is a Link to get you started.

If ur Microphone dont work well in TS18 u should:
Turn Off Listening in Voice Assistent Google.
This work for me and now i can Call with no problem

Hi
I have ts18 headunit and I did factory reset and I lost all my apps someone have backup or someting for I can have back my apps. And now I can't use tlink so I don't have android auto anymore. If I download tlink apk and install it I can't activate. I find other way to use android auto name is android headunit reloader it's working but is complicate to start like always need to go to my phone settings and start headunit server after this working fine but I don't want do this always when I want use android auto. Someone know something better apk for android auto?

Fishme92 said:
Hi
I have ts18 headunit and I did factory reset and I lost all my apps someone have backup or someting for I can have back my apps. And now I can't use tlink so I don't have android auto anymore. If I download tlink apk and install it I can't activate. I find other way to use android auto name is android headunit reloader it's working but is complicate to start like always need to go to my phone settings and start headunit server after this working fine but I don't want do this always when I want use android auto. Someone know something better apk for android auto?
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Hi! I have exactly the same problem, how did you fix it? Is there any way to install the original app to connect your phone?

Trying to identify a UIS8581 unit

Is anyone able to help me identify what unit this is? Its meant to be a higher end unit but finding it really sluggish and also looking at some of the reports its using > 6GB of ram OOB out of 8GB (Not sure how the 2GB unit would have worked) .
Sometimes when turning it back on from standby when playing music etc its really jumpy as its its doing something in the background. Anyone got any recommendations on apps to show what using up all the CPU?
It appears to be a UIS8581 based unit, I have run the HWGetinfo tool on it but its reporting its not a FYT unit.

Post Android system information, including MCU version

The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"

Rob_Quads said:
The version is retuned as "ZLH_AD_OS_1.24" and the MCU "ZLH_QXLA20830A_Q5H0_8581_13"
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This is a completely known unit in here. Try search yourself in this forum for ZLA_ you won´t find anything.

Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?

I'm also with the same thing.

Rob_Quads said:
Bit harsh - I have been search but how am I meant to know to search for ZLA not ZLH? Also, searching for "ZLA_" returns a total of 1 hit, a google search for `XDA developers "ZLA_"` also returns just a couple hits not in this forum?
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ZLA was a typo... sorry.
My posting was not meant to be harsh, but this unit is really completely unknown on XDA.

Yeah that looks like the BMW equivalent to mine with a slightly different CPU
Bhold89 said:
I'm also with the same thing.
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Talking with the seller, mine was sold by COIKA.
It seems that it follows some patterns that are very similar to other HU's, you just need to make the following to update for example, the boot logo:
Folder structure:
- HUTUpdate
- OS
- bootanimation.zip
- logo.png
- upgrade.en (empty file)
- upgrade.system (empty file)
So, if you find other examples of HU types that are Android-based, this may work.
To upgrade the MCU is
- HUTUpdate
- mcu
- upgrade.mcu
- BMW_8581.bin
I was trying to make backups with other tools, but no success yet.

BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB

simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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Which HU do you have?

I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas

Bhold89 said:
Which HU do you have?
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MTK8581a 8/128 for BMW

Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks

Mikdiba86 said:
Hi i have the same unit on my audi q3 with the same firmware 1.86, also i have problem with bluetooth but i want aks you if you turn off the original bluetooth of your car ? Do you use zlink for carplay/android auto? Thanks
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I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?

Tom1386 said:
I use my phone via original Bluetooth on the car. I don't use zlink anymore. As I have the headunit online it makes it easier to use gmaps etc directly.
Do you have a SIM card installed? Does it work? My one does not connect as there is no apn and I cannot set new one. Did you bought it from coika?
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i use only zlink...because i like the home of carplay..i don't use the sim card ...yes i bought from coika by aliexpress. for me you need disable original bluetooth of car..and use only headunit..one question..but the our unit is mtcd?

I don't know who is the main manufacturer. Coika says they are the own manufacturers. But don't belieb them. Struggling with the service people since days... Apps are closing after you switch to car system... bluetooth is only working with mobile phone...no obd device etc... SIM card is not working...but they keep me waiting

Similar unit here (Mercedes version):
Version: ZLH_BZ_OS_1.80
MCU: ZLH_BZL221030A_8581_13
Android version 12 (fake - it's 10 - see below)
More info in attached photos.
The 8888 code gets you into factory settings, as in this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...-not-fyt-based-read-first-post-first.4525675/
I installed the "Fake Device Test" app and it closes after 1 or 2 seconds (possible sabotage by the device?) but I managed to get the OS info by quickly flicking down the screen while videoing it, then playing back in slow motion. This confirmed the Android API level as 29 (ie Android 10). It also seems to confirm the claimed 8GB RAM and 1920x720 screen are correct.
I want to have a poke around with ADB and busybox, but so far haven't been able connect. The unit claims to be rooted.
Wireless Android Auto works, but one minor annoyance is that my phone seems to give up on Android Auto before the unit is ready to connect. A quick toggle of bluetooth and reconnect to the unit once it's ready is necessary. Also, you need to use a cable for AA when the ZLink app on the device is set to HD - wireless AA on HD delivers a pillarboxed display.
And despite all the images on AliExpress showing 5 icons per page in the launcher, I've only got 3 per page. Is this launcher configurable?
I don't know why exactly, but I have a nagging suspicion that the screen might be a lower resolution than reported, I need to see what the kernel/sysfs says. Do these units have a dmesg somewhere? Or could there be a problem caused by the screen being reported as only 7 inches, as I saw in the output of one of the System Info apps I tried? (Screen is actually 10.25 inches.
One thing I really want to do is get a full backup in case of future problems. Is using TWRP possible on these devices? There is a 1.5 GB "update.zip" on the internal storage, I need get a copy and examine it.
Investigations continue, I'll report back. In the meantime, does anyone have any thoughts on the above?

Tom1386 said:
I have also an UIS8581 Unit von Coika. I have software version ZLH_AD_OS_1.86, and MCU LZH_qxha20830A_Q3H0_8581...
I have also some problems... the bluetooth does only work as a headset. you cant switch it on and use it as a normal conection for apps.
Once you switch to original system and then back, all apps are closed( spoitify etc) you need to restart them...
also my sim does not work at all, cause there is no APN setting in the system. once i try to enter it it says user is not able to change settings...
all in all the system is nor really well programmed and has lot of bugs.
If there is anyone who can help with get all the normal functions back pls contact me?
Best regards
Thomas
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I have gooting a new 9" android unit for AUDI. With same seller and issue.
Thinking of making a thread

simonb123 said:
BMW_OS_8581_1920_720_1.86.zip
drive.google.com
This worked for me as an update, but I have a BMW. Hope this helps!
Just unzip the HUTUpdate to a blank USB
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I have AUDI ill compare because folder structurer is similar