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Lost with X5 and X5 Pro

Hi. I was looking in the terminal catalogue of Movistar, and i found this mobile in his model U8800h, which is the newest Ideos X5 Pro. I´m looking for it (it´s cheap for his specs) but i encounter a problem.
There are two models of this telephone, the normal X5 (U8800, 800 mhz processor, discontinued) and the X5 Pro, which is the one that Movistar offers, and its called U8800H and mounts a 1ghz processor, 512 mb ram and 5 mpx camera. It looks great for his prize, almost like the first SGS.
Here are my questions:
-I know that U8800 and U8800H roms are not compatible, or that´s what i read, but...there are U8800H or X5 Pro roms actually? I don´t know if the Miui rom of the dev forum is for X5 or for X5 Pro.
-X5 Pro can be rooted+set a recovery?
-There are at least Gingerbread stock or tweaked GB roms for it?
Sorry if this is already asked, but i´m kinda lost with this terminal. It looks good, but i don´t want to buy an Android without any Crom for it.
Greetings!

u8800 (aka Ideos x5) cpu [email protected], 512mb ram,4gb rom, no fm tx, Qualcomm wifi (libra)
u8800H (aka Impulse 4G for usa market) cpu [email protected], 512mb ram,4gb rom, fm rx/tx, Broadcom wifi solution (bcm4329)
u8800Pro (aka Ideos x5 pro) cpu [email protected], 512mb ram,4gb rom, fm rx/tx, Broadcom wifi solution (bcm4329)
also exist something called u8800-51 but no info for this one
u8800 can be rooted via various apps and software like superoneclickroot also recovery via cwm mod and pink mode
u8800pro can be rooted only via superoneclickroot software and recovery via pink mode
i have no info about u8800h and u8800-51 rooting and recovery solution

Then i think the Movistar device is the U8800 Pro, because they offer it as a 1ghz terminal and also is shown as it in a commercial video.
There are custom roms for the Pro terminal? It´s great to hear that there is root and recovery (idk what that pink thing is, maybe i need a tutorial), but, if there is no rom, at least i can find a custom kernel for it? Like Francokernel for Optimus One.

no custom rom's or kernel's for u8800pro as i know, but at least big posibility for official 2.3.5 after huawei vision(aka u8850) release cuz hardware wise its prety mauch same device

And maybe is possible to port roms from Huawei Vision to the Ideos X5 Pro, i´m right?
Well, if with root i can make some tweaks to the stock froyo, that can be right. If the performance is better than LG Optimus One with Gingerbread i´ll choose it.
Thanks

The performance is way better than lg optimus one. And there will be ROM's for it, that's for sure. It's just too fresh now

I hope so It´s a very cheap phone for the specs it has. I´ll follow the scene and see if appear something interesting I think only the 1ghz processor makes the difference between this an O1. Thanks for the answer
Greetings.

Bigger screen makes difference too. And better GPU. On the processor side, even non-pro U8800 would be way better than lg optimus one, because it has ARMv7 processor, not ARMv6

Yeah, and i´m amazed it cost about the same as the Optimus One in the catalogue, ever less points (70.000 vs 80.000, and they give you more or less 70.000 as a gift, then 0€ terminal)
I´ll check it. It´s a shame that there are not CRoms yet. But i have a question, what´s that "pink mode" thing you said before? It´s a certain recovery?
Greetings

It's something like fastboot mode on htc. When you load it, you can access all your phone partitions, so you can mess with files, recoveries etc.

Other Huawei phones also seems to have the pink mode you're referring to. However they do not seem to allow access to the different partitions. That is nothing is mounted.
From analysis it looks like other phones don't have a memory controller which controls the access. I'm sure there is a way to do this, but haven't been able to find any information yet..
If anyone has any ideas - let me know..

Higher possibilities for custom rom now?

Phone released in Europe now. Waiting for mine, should be here within a few days. Do you think there will be any custom roms available soon, or at all?
Just made a quick search online and can't find any, and also read that it's against the rules here on xda to link to them in that case? How come?

maybe if Huawei or Honor release source code with binary.. without i thing is impossible or very very complicated, but we are waiting..

If you want to run aosp based roms like CyanogenMod then Honor/Huawei is a pretty bad choice.
Better get a Qualcomm powered phone.

it is a HiSilicon Kirin 935 CPU working. The CPU-Code is absolutely unknown for the moment! No Code = No possibility to get a custom rom!
Or did you know any other Kirin smartphone with a running custom rom on it???

There were a number of custom roms for huawei P6 (released 2013, i owned one) for sure. But not into custom roms, so not sure what was the progress with honor 6 (2014, owned it) and Honor 6 plus on custom roms. Could go through Mate 7, and P8 forums as well.
Possible if searching through Chinese websites might find MIUI 6 for honor 7 or something of that sort.

Custom Roms for Huawei P8 Lite (BlissROM)?

Hello!
This is my first post, any suggestions on how to improve are gladly taken!
I would like to install a Bliss Rom which does not support my Huawei P8 Lite (Android 5.0).
Is it possible? And if not, what ROMs would you suggest?

I think our cute little p8lite doesn't have any custom roms.. But we have to hope we will get a few.. Maybe some roms ported from honor 4x?
Ps. And remember... You can't install roms from another devices

i wish to be a lot or custom rooms to our p8 lite too !

will we ever get a cyanogenmod?

You may want to follow @XePeleato 's efforts in porting (help appreciated) here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/general/rom-aosp-5-1-1-ale-l21-t3350106
Unfortunately at the current phase the RIL is not working (you are not able to call / receive call)

The problem probably lays in the HIiSilicon Kirin chipset. The chipset is fairly unique, with only a few devices built with it, there are no general fixes for issues like RIL problems, so everything needs manual fixing, which is like modify-rebuild-try, after every effort to trying to fix issues.
It takes time, and manual labour, which is very tedious.
XePeleato said, he'll wait for the official 6.0 releases, and try to do some things after that.
I'm also interested in the building process itself, already downloaded a linux vm, and the CM source code itself, and I'm trying to learn how the system is working, so there are mulltiple people who are willing to make ROMs.

There is a person who works on cyanogenmod for our p8lite.
https://github.com/hak86/android_device_huawei_hi6210sft

PatrickDelta said:
Hello!
This is my first post, any suggestions on how to improve are gladly taken!
I would like to install a Bliss Rom which does not support my Huawei P8 Lite (Android 5.0).
Is it possible? And if not, what ROMs would you suggest?
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You can install sokkoban's rom. It is emui but contain a lot of features that aren't available now on Huawei p8 lite. Especially camera modes like light painting, super night mode etc. http://huaweip8lite.blogspot.com/?m=1

For devs, EMUI 5?

Hi community!
We all want the Android 7 on our Huawei P8, although our hopes unfortunately are null.
Yesterday i googled for 1 hour and I founded a thread about the LineageOS aka CM14 on the P8 lite. Now I don't have now a P8 lite, and i don't know how to make port/custom roms, and my hope is to found some dev that can do a port.
Thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/development/xepeleato-s-lineageos-14-1-t3542120
(i'm not english, sorry for any grammatical error)

ITzAndry said:
Hi community!
We all want the Android 7 on our Huawei P8, although our hopes unfortunately are null.
Yesterday i googled for 1 hour and I founded a thread about the LineageOS aka CM14 on the P8 lite. Now I don't have now a P8 lite, and i don't know how to make port/custom roms, and my hope is to found some dev that can do a port.
Thread here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/p8lite/development/xepeleato-s-lineageos-14-1-t3542120
(i'm not english, sorry for any grammatical error)
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guys here are working hard on CM13, but its so complicated and time consuming to port it to our CPU i wouldnt count on it in near future, not even LineageOS, damn Kirin proccessors, uncompatible with anything, besides, we have only very few devs able to make roms, and they are usually bussy so they can spend only a few hours per week on porting

00471 said:
guys here are working hard on CM13, but its so complicated and time consuming to port it to our CPU i wouldnt count on it in near future, not even LineageOS, damn Kirin proccessors, uncompatible with anything, besides, we have only very few devs able to make roms, and they are usually bussy so they can spend only a few hours per week on porting
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But do they have a similiar cpu architecture? I mean, P8 and P8 lite have got similiar CPU, so i think that it can be easy.

ITzAndry said:
But do they have a similiar cpu architecture? I mean, P8 and P8 lite have got similiar CPU, so i think that it can be easy.
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from my understanting from comments in CM13 thread they are, at least a bit, helping each other (p8/p8 lite devs), in my opinion P8 lite owns much more users as it was much cheaper alternative, therefore more devs owns it so the works on building a port is faster, but thats all only my opinions and truth can be somewhere else.

In my opinion even though they are similar, the chipset of p8 lite is a kirin 620 while that of p8 is a hisilicon kirin 930 and for port rom they must have the same chipset I think like mtk devices.
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chipset and kernel relationship

is the chipset and the kernel versions are related to each other ?
I have observed that phones using Snapdragon 617 chipset are you using the kernel version of 3.10 checked with Moto G4 Plus and on other phones like nubia , BlackBerry dtek, etc
while phones using Snapdragon 430 chipset are using kernel version 3.18.. for ex redmi 4, etc
so my question is kernel versions like 4.4 and other newer versions can't be developed by manufacturer or what? for Snapdragon 617 chipset

ajaikumarnadar said:
is the chipset and the kernel versions are related to each other ?
I have observed that phones using Snapdragon 617 chipset are you using the kernel version of 3.10 checked with Moto G4 Plus and on other phones like nubia , BlackBerry dtek, etc
while phones using Snapdragon 430 chipset are using kernel version 3.18.. for ex redmi 4, etc
so my question is kernel versions like 4.4 and other newer versions can't be developed by manufacturer or what? for Snapdragon 617 chipset
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They are not at all related to each other. Even in high ended smartphone you will notice 3.18 or above. As it is the minimum requirement for oreo build to function.
They are updated by oems and are maintain by company and are updated via ota.
As lenovo owned Motorola has officially announced oreo for moto g4 plus. As a pain in **s they have to update kernel first(which takes hell amount of time) n then have to push oreo update.
I think i was clear here.[emoji6]

DgnrtnX said:
They are not at all related to each other. Even in high ended smartphone you will notice 3.18 or above. As it is the minimum requirement for oreo build to function.
They are updated by oems and are maintain by company and are updated via ota.
As lenovo owned Motorola has officially announced oreo for moto g4 plus. As a pain in **s they have to update kernel first(which takes hell amount of time) n then have to push oreo update.
I think i was clear here.[emoji6]
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thanks for the wonderful explanation.. i hope they bump kernel to 4.4 or newer..

ajaikumarnadar said:
thanks for the wonderful explanation.. i hope they bump kernel to 4.4 or newer..
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If you're referring to Moto, not a chance. It's too much work to rework the kernel to a such a new version. I suspect that is the same reason there's a much higher delay around with phones that release with Oreo (very few at this time, even the OP5T comes with Nougat).