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which rom is the best without all the crap ware? Is there a rom out that just works? Flashing the rom without ever have to go into titianium to remove the unwanted appz...some of them you can't even remove from the rom. what ever app i want, I can just install it. CM and miui doesn't have crapware but not everything works. I don't want to have to install 3rd party software just to have certain feature works. All the other roms have crapware like facebook, peep, weather and news, desk clock, and etc... It beats the purpose of rooting your phone and at the same time custom roms may also have a lot of crapware.
well sometimes u cant always have what you want, you gotta compromise, or just learn to be a rom dev, and make your own?
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which rom is the best without all the crap ware? Is there a rom out that just works? Flashing the rom without ever have to go into titianium to remove the unwanted appz...some of them you can't even remove from the rom. what ever app i want, I can just install it. CM and miui doesn't have crapware but not everything works. I don't want to have to install 3rd party software just to have certain feature works. All the other roms have crapware like facebook, peep, weather and news, desk clock, and etc... It beats the purpose of rooting your phone and at the same time custom roms may also have a lot of crapware.
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LOL what third party software do you have to install with cm7? Cm7 works great without the need for anything.
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Once rooted, there is nothing you can't uninstall/delete with Root Explorer. Pick your fav ROM, buy Root Explorer and delete away. That said, you will have sense running in the background on anything that is not AOSP (unless you run a sense remover of some sort. I think Calkulin has one.)
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superm3 said:
which rom is the best without all the crap ware? Is there a rom out that just works? Flashing the rom without ever have to go into titianium to remove the unwanted appz...some of them you can't even remove from the rom. what ever app i want, I can just install it. CM and miui doesn't have crapware but not everything works. I don't want to have to install 3rd party software just to have certain feature works. All the other roms have crapware like facebook, peep, weather and news, desk clock, and etc... It beats the purpose of rooting your phone and at the same time custom roms may also have a lot of crapware.
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miks roms work but he keeps the crapware in there because some people like it and most keep it on there but move it to sd or whatever just so if someone does like it they can use it but its all uninstallable... i am with you though i go through many apps and remove them and gotta do it everytime but i dont care i could leave it if i wanted lol but dont use it so no need to
cm7+savaged-zen works great, the only thing that i have run into trouble with is the gps which is an easy fix with this New GPS drivers! v1.1
in my own opinion i love Miui i fell in love with it..
Miui with Savaged zen SBC(latest) Vipermod (flash Insanemode) Ram script Mod.Overclocked to 1.13ghz. my phone really feels better acts better games better Battery LASTS WAY LONGER...only problem no app drawer but you can always use zeam launcher that makes it even faster i think
Go with MikG man, it comes with some of the "crapware" but you can easily remove everything you don't want and the rom is phenomenal
EVO Deck is about one of the cleanest ROMs you can get; he strips CM7 clean of a lot of the stuff they add (language packs and stuff) so his zip file is pretty small.
I highly recommend his ROM if you want a good all-around AOSP experience; combined with Tiamat 3.3.7 it also gave me the best battery life of any ROM I've used.
Deck and SalvageMod are extremely lightweight
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I'd recommend Vaelpak. His 3.2 is a very solid senseless based Rom. His .2.2 is still in beta more or less but has been good so far. It is a complete aosp Rom.
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I've tried...
Deck
Vaelpak
Synergy
MIUI
All of which have been awesome in their own way. Deck was like the stock Android experience, Vael was like stock Android mixed with sense and a lot of options, Synergy is a really solid sense rom and MIUI is just a cool take on Android.
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I've tried...
Deck
Vaelpak
Synergy
MIUI
All of which have been awesome in their own way. Deck was like the stock Android experience, Vael was like stock Android mixed with sense and a lot of options, Synergy is a really solid sense rom and MIUI is just a cool take on Android.
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The newest Vaelpak is a GB based full aosp. The 3.2 (which I'm guessing is the one you have tried) is the senseless rom.
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MIUI is nice but no 4G so that's out.
CM7 is nice but not everything works perfectly, then its a find the best kernel that does this or that so that's out.
For me, I settled on Kings Alliance 2.1 with hybrid 3.0 on my EVO 4G. Everything works and well, battery life great, camera, 4G, wifi and tons of modifications if you want.
These are my opinions but for looks, simplicity, speed and not any bloatware right off the bat, try Kings..
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MIUI is nice but no 4G so that's out.
CM7 is nice but not everything works perfectly, then its a find the best kernel that does this or that so that's out.
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In fairness, I don't think there's any custom ROM not based on stock that works perfectly. There are always nagging little issues like auto brightness not working or having to run a driver fix for GPS with every CM nightly. You have to take the good with the bad.
Cyanogen works great for me without any problems
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OMFGB Nightlies are real good.. Android 2.3.5, different from CM. Has some interesting features and T-Moblie Theme Chooser
Also like Just_S said before, you can easily remove any app you don't want..
A good free app I've been using is Root App Remover FOUND HERE
D/L For OMFGB Nightlies HERE
Titanium Backup is good for uninstalling apps too.
flashing rom with all the crapware and uninstalling crapware through titianium backup, doesn't that slow down your phone? look at windows mobile and windows os. Installing an appz and uninstalling it slows down your phone by half. cm and miui doesnt have 4g. The last time I checked, both still have issue with 160 character and tethering issues.
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flashing rom with all the crapware and uninstalling crapware through titianium backup, doesn't that slow down your phone? look at windows mobile and windows os. Installing an appz and uninstalling it slows down your phone by half. cm and miui doesnt have 4g. The last time I checked, both still have issue with 160 character and tethering issues.
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I never noticed any slow-down from uninstalling apps. CM7 supports 4G on the EVO; I can't speak for all other phones. I never had any tethering issues when using any custom ROM.
Hey guys, I am just looking for some opinions here. I keep on debating if I should just flash a stock Rom and keep it. For the first time in ages I feel like I have a device that's pretty much perfect out of the box, other than there being no stock browser lol...
I tried a couple of built from source ROMs, am on sr1 right now with matrix kernel. And while all of the additions custom ROMs provide are neat, I prefer stock feel more.
For some reason, to me, odexed stock ROM feels snappier than anything I've tried that's custom, and that's the only one that hulu app actually works on. I don't know if this is true, but I also seem to be getting much better data, I'm not sure if kernel has anything to do with connectivity, or ROM... But... Sr1 has few options to optimize data connectivity, which dont seem to actually help.
Anyways, some places I go my data would drop down to edge for awhile, or I would lose reception all together, is really random and
Odd because I know I've never had that issue before. I then reverted to stock, and issue went away.
Anyways, I guess my question is... Do all of the features and claims of better performance and network connectivity that are listed in many ROMs true? Or is stock odexed ROM is still going to be better when it comes to that? I don't mean to call devs liars or anything, I'm just curious as to compare your guys thoughts.
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A few hours ago I left stock for code fire sr1, its noticeably faster than stock imho. Its close to stock and has many features that make it better than stock overall. The battery drain so far is better than stock which is another plus btw. Also I don't have any network issues but I heard T-Mobile is rearming the towers so their service has been odd lately.
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I like both custom and the stock ROM. I used the stock ROM since I got the phone, but just recently switched to CM10.1. I like the added features CM10.1 brings. It just boils down to personal preference. More and more ROMs are going to start showing up, and when that happens you're decision on staying on the stock ROM might change.
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I prefer custom kernels. It brings more benefits (faster speed, better battery life, more stable in general, etc ..) with much less annoyance (well, you know, Nandroid backup, Titanium backup, SMS backup, flash ROM, restores all of the settings, etc.)
Flashing ROM is fun, and the added features is nice, but until ROMs are more stable, I won't jump on the band wagon.
Thanks guys!
Do kernels effect signal at all? When I ran sr1 with Franco kernel, I really liked the kernel, except for data being flaky, matrix one seemed to have been better with it. Am I totally crazy, or do kernels make a difference?
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Thanks guys!
Do kernels effect signal at all? When I ran sr1 with Franco kernel, I really liked the kernel, except for data being flaky, matrix one seemed to have been better with it. Am I totally crazy, or do kernels make a difference?
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Only WiFi signal. Kernels do not touch cellular data.
I'm using SR1 with Franco, it works beautifully with no signal issues.
Much faster than stock Odexed in my experience as well :good: It all depends on if you appreciate the added feature set or not. There is no setting or magic switch here that makes a rom instantly faster. It's all placebo with a little bit of theory and actual performance behind it.
I prefer stock ..I was using Task and Ktoonz ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S3 and there always was problems with bugs and the phone rebooting and not decent battery life..so that has me on edge with roms. But I tried using Nova Prime and then decided to delete that and try stock launcher and stock just feels smoother overall.
Only thing I don't like completely running stock is I can't delete the Google search widget and it takes up every home screen.
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Right now I'm stock, rooted with the franco kernel I rooted to try to improve battery life.
The stock rom is perfectly acceptable, but I'll probably end up loading a custom rom for small changes that I like on my device
like battery percentages in the status bar. Custom roms add nice little options like that which google doesn't provide with a stock rom.
ztmike said:
I prefer stock ..I was using Task and Ktoonz ROM on my AT&T Galaxy S3 and there always was problems with bugs and the phone rebooting and not decent battery life..so that has me on edge with roms. But I tried using Nova Prime and then decided to delete that and try stock launcher and stock just feels smoother overall.
Only thing I don't like completely running stock is I can't delete the Google search widget and it takes up every home screen.
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Why not get apex launcher, make it look like stock, but get rid of the bar. That's what I do .
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Why not get apex launcher, make it look like stock, but get rid of the bar. That's what I do .
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I tried using stock, lasted half a day when I got pissed that the Quick Settings open the menu rather than toggle and some small things like lack of AM/PM and no battery percentage and changing brightness with the status bar. Also the Quick Reply from CM is one my favorite features ever which is why I don't just mod stock.
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I tried using stock, lasted half a day when I got pissed that the Quick Settings open the menu rather than toggle and some small things like lack of AM/PM and no battery percentage and changing brightness with the status bar. Also the Quick Reply from CM is one my favorite features ever which is why I don't just mod stock.
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I really do like quick reply, toggles and stock browser that comes with custom ROMs. My problem is that I keep on jumping back and forth between stock and sr1, I have really odd data issues on sr1, don't get why...
Like even if I don't change any data settings at all, my data connection would still switch from 3g to hspa without issues, but it is way slow... Running speed test gets me about 200-300kbps in some areas, reboot fixes the issues right away. Now, running stock, I get about 4-7mbps in those exact same spots I have issues on sr1, I really do not understand what is causing this. The only thing I could think of is that T-Mobile APN on stock is a little different than what sr1 has?
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My Nexus 4 would bore me if I only used stock rom. The N4 is made for custom roms and kernels. And they offer so much more than stock. And isn't Android all about customising / tweaking? Maybe you wanna wait until a stable custom rom is out, but stock will not let you have as much fun.
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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mcarbaja said:
So I have a Nexus 4. The latest and greatest of any Android experience. Why should I choose to take the Custom ROM route?
kernels? What's the difference over stock?
Please help me decide! Thanks!
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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jamal777 said:
Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Battery life a little more customization and its just fun try it out
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Actually I have gotten way better battery life on stock but that's just me
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Customization is key for a lot of people who try custom ROMs. Kernels give some great features as well. We have excellent ROM and kernel devs so its really nice. The Nexus 4 is considered a "dev" phone by a lot of people so why not take advantage of the awesome support we have!
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battery life is a mute point since the 4.2.2 update the default kernel is a beast
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Moot*
Also, have you tried EVERY kernel? Harsh keeps close to stock, but adds newer patches and fixes, as well as the ability to change gamma. He still uses mpdecision, which retains the stock snappiness.
OP, using custom ROMs lets you have the latest version of Android + all the cool extras.
T9 dialer, Pie and battery percentage are three VERY popular ones. Mind you, there are ways to add these to the stock ROM, but at that point it's not stock.
one word - COLORS
Run stock as long as you happily can. Keep an eye on the more popular custom ROM threads to see if there's any one, or more, features that you absolutely can't live without, if you're at all interested.
You're running a great ROM already and too many people jump into the ring without doing enough research.
The one thing I can't live without is hiding nav bar,
ok, two things, Touch Control.... Since stock kernel disabled it I had to use a custom kernel. Besides it's old habit. I was a Franco kernel user since Galaxy Nexus.
1. The software buttons can take up a lot of space after the status bar is included. Makes the screen feel less like 4.7"
2. The stock colors really are washed out. Modifying the gamma can get you extremely attractive colors.
3. I like being able to have a flashlight and my hotspot a touch away and having custom tiles proves awesome for that.
4. When you're playing Real Racing 3 and your girlfriend texts you, its kind of a pain in the butt to switch windows . The pie in my ROM let's me read and respond to my notifications on the fly.
5. Aesthetics. The boot animation, custom app color recommendations and artwork in general are just awesome on Paranoid Android 3.1. Cooler than Holo at times
6. Better sound. By default the volume on this sucks but now I've installed Xloud it's just right.
But in the end this is a Nexus device. Works just peachy off the bat but coming from the developer concept series from Google, they don't expect you to take it as is. Different strokes for different folks. 4.2.2 is as is. If you want more though the Nexus is the cornocopia of ROM development. Every big league ROM originates here. Another reason to love it among the rest .
Just my two cents
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CyanogenMod and Stock Kernel
In my opinion the best way to go is CyanogenMod gives you a lot more customization and the battery life, ram speed and CPU clock is perfectly fine so there's no need to get a custom kernel.
Custom rom allows you to control your phone however your want.
As for me, i am using PA Rom. The reason I choose PA because it has some nice tweaks and customization.
- Battery Percentage
- Customizable Lockscreen
- Quick Settings Panel Customization
- Custom color for apps :>
- Volume Button tweaks
- Full Screen (Pie)
All about me.
Customization!!!!!!! I really liked having a top of the line device, except for the crap sound, washed out colors and lack of options. Using P.A.C. Rom with the franco Kernel it seems like a whole new phone. There is almost no end to what I can tweak or modify on my phone. The addition of Awesome Beats and Noozxoide made my phone sound crazy good. Everyones phone is totally their own. No 2 are alike because you can personalize everything. If i wanted the same phone as everyone else I would have bought an Iphone. Once you start flashing you will find it hard to stop. Enjoy the power of Stock for a while and then come to the darkside and you will never want to go back to stock.
There are aspects of custom ROMs and kernels in general that give you an increased fluidity. The nexus 4 is beastly and honestly I run full stock right now until I somehow get bored with its performance and want to Rev the CPU/GPU to its limit
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Much more features, tweaks and customization.
R: Custom roms, but why?
Features and tweaks. Customization.
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Running stock or my modification of it lol. Stock 4.2.2, Root, Franco Kernel, Improved camera patch and Xlouder patch with awesome beats.
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Try it for yourself, bud. Don't be ignorant and make a thread like this.
With the custom rom you can customise more you phone and improve your experience with your phone than stock ROM. Many people said that in latest posts. But no one precise that every custom ROM has some little or big dysfunction. Look the chapter troobleshooting of each custom rom. Even cyanogenmod (very popular) has one.
My strategy is replaced the stock ROM by custom ROM when I 'm feel tired of my phone. And then it allows me to wait several mouths: time to search the right next phone for me and buy it.
How about using the stock deox roms ? This allows you to run the base rom plus flash some small customisations
Customisations in the roms sometimes bring instability, although most of the main roms on here CM /AOKP / AOSP are quite stable but that is why they are development roms
Hi there! New to the forum, formerly used SDX developers.
on my first TouchWiz device and was hoping to hear some opinions and get educated on how custom ROMs work on a phone with an OEM overlay. I previously ran a Nexus S with Cyanogenmod on it. I really enjoyed it, but didn't lose any features going from vanilla Android to CM.
curious what features I might lose if I were to switch on this new phone. The features I might be interested in not losing are the camera app (essentially the burst shooting mode and best picture mode) and the air gestures. There were many features I really enjoyed of CM, but I would like most some sort of compromise.
other ROM suggestions would be appreciated to hear too.
Thanks for your time.
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Hi there! New to the forum, formerly used SDX developers.
on my first TouchWiz device and was hoping to hear some opinions and get educated on how custom ROMs work on a phone with an OEM overlay. I previously ran a Nexus S with Cyanogenmod on it. I really enjoyed it, but didn't lose any features going from vanilla Android to CM.
curious what features I might lose if I were to switch on this new phone. The features I might be interested in not losing are the camera app (essentially the burst shooting mode and best picture mode) and the air gestures. There were many features I really enjoyed of CM, but I would like most some sort of compromise.
other ROM suggestions would be appreciated to hear too.
Thanks for your time.
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You basically either got to go AOSP or TW, all the TW roms will have those features that come with stock working. AOSP roms like CM, AOKP, PA, etc won't have any of the unique TW features like air gestures and etc. In regards to the camera, it won't be the same exact app, but I'm pretty sure AOSP has a few equivalent shooting modes but I don't remember which ones, haven't used the AOSP camera in awhile.
And I'm pretty sure I've read that it won't be possible to merge those TW features, like smart scroll and all that air stuff, into CM and etc. MAYBE if the Google GS4 comes with them we will be able to port them in, but I doubt that'll the Google S4 will.
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So S Beam and S Health won't be ported to AOSP style ROMs either? I'm just trying to figure out which way to go. I like the idea of some of these features, but realistically probably wouldn't use them much. Have you experimented with any ROMs on your S4 yet? Thanks for your response.
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So S Beam and S Health won't be ported to AOSP style ROMs either? I'm just trying to figure out which way to go. I like the idea of some of these features, but realistically probably wouldn't use them much. Have you experimented with any ROMs on your S4 yet? Thanks for your response.
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I'm quite sure that the APK's of those apps are dependent on Touchwiz so they won't work if your on an AOSP rom. That might not be the case for all of them.
Yes sir! I have tried all the main TW roms out, Force Rom is a really slimmed down stock rom with some nice mods, FreeGS4 is a choose and pick everything you want from stock with everything being included and most of it being uninstallable by default, with a bunch of great mods, Blue Kuban is a blue themed out TW rom with a great built in mod downloader/updater. All three are great with different niches. There is also Highway (or something like that) and Untitled rom but those are in their early stages still.
And the AOSP roms are the usuals, CM, AOKP, AOSPA and also SlimBean. If your going to try an AOSP rom I recommend the official CM nightlies or Slimbean as the others are still in beta.
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I've been thinking I would wait for a CM milestone before giving it a shot. Might try Free GS4, that sounds up my ally. Thanks again for the answers. One last question if you have time: Have you considered dual booting?
I have been running ForceRom and have had great success with it. Battery life is great and phone has been running quite smoothly. Link below if you wanna check it out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2261943
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Good question, and good information for new smartphone people such as I.
I am running the Team Sonic rom, I like it quite a bit. Its very similar to stock but with some important tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2294607&page=41
Is it really true that the custom roms are better than stock roms?
And what make the difference
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Depends on what yoyr comparing. As far as your likes on either aosp or stock roms. I find its a mood thing for me. Some days i prefer the stability (in most cases) of stock roms. Better use of the actual features you paid the money for on the device. Then some days the total customization of aosp. Depending on the build release. Stable and all running great on a stock oem carrier branded flagship could be the fastest most fun. But your camera may not work as well etc. Etc. ...Its really personal choice. That is the answer most will give you.
However in my experiences, id have to say most flagships today or released in past year are just great out of box. Most should be. Maybe debloat a bit. But really. Its all choice. Well id better crash. Been on a 36 hour build here. Pooped. You can always build yourself an environment and learn a few things about building your own rom from source. But though i dont share mine anymore here you could. Many would like anything to just flash. And really that about what this becomes after a few years if your not building your own. Lol. But like most of us die hards around here if nothing else its quite fun. So go flash and test. Enjoy.
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Is it really true that the custom roms are better than stock roms?
And what make the difference
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Yeah it really does depend on what you're comparing.
There are many pros to flashing custom ROM, but you don't get the official updates anymore - which you have to wait for your ROM cook to cook up a new version.
Custom ROMs also give you more possibilities in customization, on stock ROM you are limited to many things. You have more control over your apps and have the capability of using superuser permissions on apps.
There are more pros for custom ROMs than pros for stock ROMs.
Some ROM's remove a lot of bloat, that combined with custom kernels may allow for faster speed, better battery life and a greater degree of customization of the UI. If you use a touchwiz rom you can keep the spen functions, but ROM's like Cyanagynmod may limit the pen functionality and lack the Samsung features supporting the spen.
I'm running hyperdrive ROM ATM. Battery life is far better, all the s-pen features work and it's significantly faster. I've also changed many of the stock colors in the UI and flashed a theme I like. The rom bakes in some other helpful apps, for example one that switches an alternate keyboard (Swiftkey for example) with the stock keyboard (for writing) when the spen is out. You could add these separately, but can be accessed via the ROM's tweaks utility.